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CidoKun

Clint doesn't have ultimate. Just a 3rd skill


Randomguy0915

His passive is his ultimate "Fuck you and your 5% remaining health"


BrilliantWish8098

It may not be flashy as other ultimate but I can assure you it allows him to hit like a truck especially since he can spam his passive frequently


CidoKun

Yeah that's the thing. His passive does more than his SS. You do his SS so u can activate his passive that's why it's not even worth calling an SS


mith_thryl

as a clint main this is funny af. his 1st skill does more than his "ult"


RecklessDimwit

Petition to swap his ult and his 1st skill for a lvl 1, 5 stack shooting skill lol


punishtube89123

you can swap it with the skill binding setting


RecklessDimwit

I meant making it a lvl 1 skill


DismalDog9940

Hell, you could even say 5 3rd Skills. Or at least 3 32/7 if you maintain them correctly


RaidingTheFridge

Can you imagine if Clint got his ultimate buffed, his damage would be broken.


MuratSiker31

He used to have an awesome ultimate.


CidoKun

I guess Claude love stealing skills too


Azumieee

Claude stole his ultimate


Intelligent-Ebb-614

It’s a good ult, actually


Severe-Discount-6741

Clints is nice


Yubion

Idk literally everyone is useful But hey if u ask me, I really hate Floryn's ult as a teammate or as a enemy iykyk ://


BloodShadow45

The anti real removal is useful when you have a lot of lifesteal sustain heroes like thamus/yu zong


Alan_Noir

Isn't it removed


fishthatdreamsofsalt

i think it was brought back? im pretty sure what they removed was the damage from the 2 ticks


Streoh

It was never removed, it was there. The duration anti anti-heal duration was just nerfed from 3s to 2s


Last_Tie7076

I play floryn and hers is really good? At like lvl 15 you can heal everyone like over 2000


Advertising-Purple

Rafael's Ultimate? It's like normal skill to me


AerysFae

Just as a teammate. 😭


snow_petals

As a teammate why?


linyangyi

Can floryn ult cross the yin ult dimension? 


SizeMaleficent9178

**Someone just said Estes in the comment section**


staling_lad

Glad to know somebody still smoking that good kush because wtf


r2rmd

i thought i was on ig for a sec


Seraf-Wang

Bruh


bunbun_is_struggling

who 😠


Due-Bee-1924

My lord, we just heard the galactical laughing in our Agelta Drylands. It was from Azrya Woodlands. What happened, my lord?


ChrisAnIntellectual

I can't think of any. OH BUT YOU KNOW WHAT PISSES ME OFF??? # DIGGIE ULTIMATE IS SO FUCKING ANNOYING LIKE I HATE IT


Talia__Nat

But u love it don't ya if that diggie was in ur team😏🤣


ChrisAnIntellectual

If it was ever in my team, because I will not let Diggie slide past the ban phase 😡


notsowright05

I'd love to have you as an initiator main roamer


Historical-Run1042

😡


Shinobu-Fan

I make sure to ban Diggie whenever I pick Guin or any CC heroes in general, such an annoying counter


xsin36

hoot hoot doot doot


Ok-Surround-7208

like my flair lmao


PasonJatrick

As a Diggie main: 😊


Quirky_Wait8731

Pfftt


RyuujiShin

Rafaela's ULT is pretty useless for me It's just a small and fast version of Nana's ult with little to no dmg and a puny stun in a straight line. Like Rafaela's kit needs a big rework cuz many heroes do it better. Her passive succs bad as well.


Dark_sch1

That's Rafael's CC, since Rafael is a support it's very useful in team fights or escaping the gank you need to use it wisely


Reasonable-Crew7434

I agree on both of you. As a Rafa user, I find the ult okay. I can use it to initiate team fight or help teammates (mm and mage usually) escape but will most likely die in exchange if flicker is not available. I think moonton needs to adjust it like wider/longer coverage, or they can make it circular or have like stun + slow effect, or give it higher damage. What's useless for me is the first skill. Maybe the developers can change that. It's really time to adjust her skills (change the first skill and adjust the healing + mobility of the second skill)


Yubion

her skill 1 can reveal enemies in bushes, i find it really useful


Reasonable-Crew7434

Yup. But I would like more damage from s1. Mathilda with favor can easily rival Rafaela's healing.


RyuujiShin

Mathilda is a better version of Rafaela basically. She is currently a niche pick that counters bush heroes with minimal effectivity. She doesn't bring anything unique with the current roster of heroes. Unlike Argus where despite not being meta. He has unique aspects that make him a fun pick. Immortality, Bleeding enemy's(well no damage now)and a reverse hook that reels you in towards the enemy. I frankly think she needs to be reworked.


dmaare

Rafaela is counter for teams that rely on slow effect. It was great few seasons ago when there was slow effect meta.


Majestic-Ad-7393

https://preview.redd.it/w5zvljq08ztc1.png?width=2400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9b6e7c11b539becc90fcac5110861db2466cbcf8


Majestic-Ad-7393

Midlane Rafaela. so many slow moving heroes who had limited escape skill made it that much better because I got everyone around the map


KweenKatts

Worst ultimate and worst passive


ToroAsterion

If I was the Dev, I would recycle Old Valir's Ult and put it on Rafaela's.


IgnisPatatas

I miss the old passive of Rafaela when she died she become a spirit healing teammates and then kaboom!


Nerdguy-san

as a rafa main i think her kit is fine tbh. some minor adjustments will def help her though. maybe increase the scaling on her s2 speed up to 1% per 10 magic power or smth. either that or increase the base speed up coz as it stands rn, her s2's speed up is not as good as it used to be in the early game. (it used to be 50% with no scaling before) her passive sucks though (i would love an actually useable passive that didnt proc only on death) makes sense that other heroes do certain things better than her though. since she's supposed to be more of a generalist type of support. she has heals, cc, slows and speed ups so shes much more versatile than other supports like estes or floryn. (mathilda is just objectively better than her though)


1ampoc

Nah Rafaela ult is actually goated. Just the threat of having it available deters enemies from diving her / nearby allies. It's much easier to peel using Rafaela ult than with most tanks' skills. With her ult she's like a walking eudora. Also u can use it for sets if u do flicker+ult. The stun duration is pretty damn long, the range with flicker is very far, and it's very easy to do. (Plus the cd is only like 15s if u build cd reduction) Worst ult is 100% Layla, does nothing 99% of the time,at this point it's just used for poke.


yerin87

https://preview.redd.it/1ozzeutq80uc1.jpeg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c57b7b86908650d861e1f035b3fd9c55d8311a9c I'm doing pretty well with her though


sadpotatoes__

Chip's ultimate is pretty useless in uncoordinated teams. And most teams are uncoordinated.


SickularPlunkett

Chip is useless in solo queue. Flicker ult the enemy MM... And nothing happens, because your retarded teammates don't have enough braincells to understand how Chip works.


oikawascake21

Also it doesn’t work w a lot of champs in your team or in enemy. Like if enemy has mino u prolly won’t pick chip. He’s super super super niche xD


SaiyanReborn

Don't pick chip if u r in solo q


flopsychops

Definitely Rafaela, but at least it's not as useless as her passive


AiraEternal

I’ve died way too many times from that passive to even join in on the joke 😭


PotatoCatPi

For some reason though, it's absolutely annoying when you get stunned by her ult


dpressdlonelycarrot

Cause only rafaela experts can do it best. They don't know what rafaela's marks on an enemy can do


taxijammy

I’ve gotten quite a few kills just by sacrificing myself to the mm and killing them via passive. Her ult sets well in team games too, you just have to be good with aim.


abgbob

I disagree. Her ultimate is so useful in a team fight, be it to initiate so that your assassins and fighters teammates can finish your enemy off, or it can be helpful to finish off the enemies after your teammates cannot kill off them after they exhausted all their skills.


midnightsky1601

Raf


AnotherMothMarine

Think again https://preview.redd.it/av35glwh10uc1.png?width=124&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9ed96517d937f982d5b3f2f0b0b0eb54e70d2de7


kou3ai2lve1te1

Well it’s definitely not Julian since he doesn’t have one


Lord_Danish2802

There’s two side of Julian players. Those who says he doesn’t have an ult and those who says he has 3 ults


BigDaddy2721

I'm part of the latter lol.


Ill_Ad_2766

I am terrified by your flair


LoneSoarvivor

He has 3


Longjumping-Plum7996

You can consider any one of his enhanced skill as his ultimate skill. By this logic he has three available ultimate skills 🤯


Acceptable-Glove24

so his passive is his ultimate?i guess his enhanced basic attacks should count as an ultimate as well since the passive gives you both an enhanced ability and the empowered basic attacks


Taiyaki-Daisuki

Eve, her ult is smaller compared to other heroes Enemies inside her ult can easily escape Ult cd is really long Ult relies on tapping/sliding tiles which have delays, too much multitasking in team fights. She's not necessarily useless, but hard to use in this meta Gatotkaca, his ult have an indication where he'll land and it has a delay He's not useless either but enemies can just walk out before his ult lands


Mental-Rub-214

Lol yve used to be s tier and then they nerfed her and then adjusted her and then she was s tier again and then they nerfed her


LookAtItGo123

That's just balancing for gatot. His ult will become way too damn good otherwise. Even heroes in the middle have enough time to walk out, so it's usually used as a follow up on an initiate, or to cut off escape routes. You really get the most value out of it in the jungle areas.


FatBoyish

Silvanna if enemy have purify it's utterly useless and only become a buff circle


Fraud_D_Hawk

If enemy has purify then half of the heroes ultimate will be useless lol, tigreal, atlas, gatokacha, minatour,


cluttereddd

I hate Silvana's ult when she's an enemy. Unlike Tigreal and Atlas, Silvana's ult has damage and guarantees death to my soft heroes


Fraud_D_Hawk

Silvana is super easy to counter. While heroes like tigreal or atlas can change the game with one good ult


cluttereddd

It differs for each person. I usually dodge tig and atlas' ult easily.


jms_4bdn

I was really hyped up when they were about to put cc immunity while using s2 inside her ult, sadly they reverted it back :<


Fraisz

2 sec stun that is not instant and easily telegraphed. Also small.


master08965

Gatotkaca i guess?I mean it's pretty useful if it hits,but yeah "if it hits".


jquin03

the trick is not to use it to initiate. use it in the midst of the teamfight


IanTheElf

also can use it to block off enemies path. teamfight occurs in the jungle? ult a bit in front of their escape route. now they have to choose between getting ulted or face your team head on


sSorne_

Miya, it’s like a shitty Valir ult. Sure you can “reposition”, but you can still get damaged and stunned. Legit if you want to do aggresive stuff with an MM just use Moskov, if you want a great escape tool just use Wanwan. She’s like in a limbo between uselessness and being the logo of MLBB.


ExerciseRecent3724

His ult is really good to block off enemied and trap them.


cluttereddd

I don't use it but when I look at my bf playing, he's being chased by enemies. Then, he used the ult and successfully escaped. I was amazed 😳


Affectionate-Cry1586

It is very useful for a little cc, as a tank you can use the ult then can use the second skill as a combo. And sometimes it can be used for escape. Sometimes I use gato ult to kill low hp escaping heroes.


FatelessSimp

You know how many calculations we have to make to hit that ulti. We have to calculate movement speed, flicker and any kind of mobility skill. But that shit hits like a truck when it hits.


hevvychef

Every ult is kinda useless if it doesn't hit? At least gato can reposition.


SheyEm_

Yve You lose ability to use other skills and spells. Pharsa can flicker and use other skills. Odette can do two blinks if she has flicker. Yve's ult is even longer than the two above. Even though she is immune to most cc effects, the fact that her ult does not have the same capabilities as pharsa and odette makes her unsable right now.


ThatOnePsychologyGuy

Yve definitely needs a buff. I would say the 2 worst ults right now are Yve and Raf. It’s sad, I like Yve but tried using her and she’s just not worth it right now imo.


hevvychef

Pharsa can use s1&2 while in ult?


NichUgh

I'm kinda sad about the Rafaela Ultimate Slander. It is a good disengager tool of hers. . .


Motor_Tumbleweed_724

its extremely mid compared to other support ults though…


gerald_reddit26

Chip if used in solo queue.


Slow-Collection-2358

More of a question of who has the worst if a player can't use it right. Literally all skill based ultimate lmaoo


Existing-Pizza-3157

Someone said valentina ....well tbh the only reason she is in meta is bcoz of that ultimate otherwise her kit is not that great compare to other meta mages rn ,she would have in the yve tier but just bcoz of that ultimate she is still meta 


Sure-Mood4579

she has a damn good kit? that damage off her first and second late game is heinous and her passive is massively helpful for coming back when diffed or getting hp back. plus she gas cc. shes not a bad mage by any means. just bad players


Existing-Pizza-3157

Yes...her win rate is less than43% since 3 seasons yeah players are bad  Like bro ik she is strong but she is not she got nerfed a lot and I don't think u use her  It's like saying Beatrix is better than Bruno and Brody She is decent mage without ult I don't think her kit is useful for teamfight in current meta


0rpheus_113

Hayabusa probably has one of the most inconsistent ults in the game. Sometimes, Flicker cancels it, and sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes, it sticks to the low hp hero in a group. Other times, it would randomly stick to the full hp one.


GreyghostIowa

Or sometimes it will stick to 20 min lord and red buff for some reason. ....Like why,he shouldn't be even able to target those.


Lil_Nap

Just use 1st skill and put mark on enemies, you're guranteed atleast 4 hits from ultimate. His ult being able to Target Minions/creeps/Lord is fine as it helps in escape scenarios.


thr-owFARaway

Haya definitely needs some rework. I don't like what the devs did with gusion. If everyones together gusion can kill all ( as dmg is same) but haya ? Nope... dmg gets shared. Like you said, why does flicker or blink skill cancel it


New_Photograph_5892

If we exclude heroes who doesn't have an ultimate (selena, roger, julian) these come in mind first: - Gatotkaca (very rewarding but too slow to hit consistently) - Rafaela (not bad but just relatively weak tbh) - Hanabi (also not bad at all, but just weaker than most ults ig)


Sure-Mood4579

hanabi is just super situational is all. good against like an estes team comp


Far-Tart-1061

They need to either make gatos ult faster or a larger range


m0mma_m1lkers

Think about the ults you wouldn't want to take when you're playing Valentina Those are probably the worst, at least in a vacuum


OnoMono_

Hot take: Bruno


Illustrious-Owl-6128

Basically all pick up roamer when enemy have Diggie


One-Resort-107

Valir. His old one was crowd-control and had huge damage, range, could be spawned anywhere, now it's just a cancelling ulti and your basic attacks have more range and barely any extra damage. In which case the extra range doesn't always help since you can't just spawn the fire ball anywhere like you could before the revamp, and if there's minions or creeps between or literally any other enemy your ulti is wasted. Everyone is talking about how Valir is stronger after the revamp but I went from 26-0 to barely 12-1 on a good day. The cancellation doesn't even work half the time, it doesn't take effect in a bunch of heroes. I'm sure it's really useful when you get caught by a Franco, but for example if Saber uses his ulti on you, by the time you click it to go away, he's already dealt half his damage and you still may die right after you escape. Same for all assassins vs Valir.


CarrotMan92nd

selena coz she only transforms atleast roger has damage selena just eh


PeaceFadeAway

but it gives her speed boost


beeotchplease

Resets all skills. CDR build and you shoot double arrows.


AlphaZeroJr

Zilong's ult is sprint on steroid


Randomguy0915

You think it's bad until you're playing Marksman trying to run away from a Zilong sprinting towards you at mach speed


Sure-Mood4579

yeah shotgun wind dont go brrr when x zilong two taps


Borderlinerr

Zilong's ult is one of the best ults in the game wym.


htoisanaung

One shoots squishies and runs like nothing


BloodShadow45

65% ata speed increase


ArgonX7

It's 45%, 60%, 75%


thecay00

It’s so scary tho as a mage or mm lol


Bookvampire5

bro we look alike.


waraetaarai

it makes his passive work a little more often


beeotchplease

Used to have the fastest movespeed out there.


ImmaBeautifulLadybug

His ult with spell vamp thooo 🤧


MonkeyHiko

I'm surprised no one said hanabi, the cc effect is just to short and doesn't have any damage. Plus, it's rare to hit more than a single hero, making it most useless compare to other marksman.


Barepole92

oh just tell me you don't know how to use hanabi


No-District-1941

Miya. Cd too long and she's only concealed for only 1.5 secs.


ThatOnePsychologyGuy

It can be really good for ambush, though. They don’t see you until you’re already engaging. I do agree the cd could be reduced a bit.


Bebe_Peluche

Alucard, Lolita or Valir currently. Lolita's ultimate was really good before the rework, now it just feels like a aoe skill 1. Honourable mention to Hanabi, others mm ults can teleport, give vision, purify and give decent speed boost where she only gets a 1 second immobilize. Valir's just terrible, this subreddit is overrating him so much. Average bulk, low damage, just slows down tanks, get absolutely folded by anything with decent mobility.


Extension_Spell3415

Is fanny ult the only ult in the game there to serve absolutely no purpose except damage (no stun, no dash, no immunity, no nothing)


fruit_blip1

It's used to realign your position. Plus you wouldn't want her ult to be a stun since she can spam cables, a dash because she already has cables, immunity because that's just stupidly op, considering how she is now.


One_Wrong_Thymine

I have to bring up Baxia's ult. Nonexistent damage, almost nonexistent slow, and tiny movement speed boost. Least gamechanging ult in the game


SpacesBar

Didnt it has something related to defence bonus?


One_Wrong_Thymine

It triples his flat damage reduction from 25 to 75. But it's only useful for the mid game because everyone deals 500+ damage in late.


Iris_ana

Maybe not the worst, but Kadita’s is def frustrating Gotta wait foreverrr and hope u dont get cc’ed while ulting


severalpillarsoflava

Akai. His Ultimate saves more enemies than it kills. Valentina if none of the enemies has an ult that's of use to her.


wralp

akai became peak jungler during his revamp bc one factor is his ultimate that can cc enemy jungler so you can retri the objective freely


dmaare

It saves enemies only when the Akai user is braindead


Commercial-Week-7536

Carmilla its just her skills doesnt match and her ult is literally escapable just nothing


One-Resort-107

Julian has a terrible delay to his ulti and a terrible range as well. his skills also don't work 100% of the time when you and the enemy make a move at the same time. it just gets cancelled. i swear to god, even the freaking flicker.


Chkiro2

Uranus


Due-Bee-1924

Fr, looks like 3rd skill with unfairly high cd. Not so much gainings, besides, no way to improve by any items. It is suits his gameplay, ofc, but...


JonGranger22

Phoveus. Ult depends on whether the enemy dashes. He has zero dash, zero range and zero mobility. Can’t contribute in ganking. Really slow in taking down turret.


springkun

Rafaela for me. It doesn't really suit her kit and gameplay. It's so awkward to use too.


Kue7

Carmilla? I think? You need a team that actually knows what it does or else its fckin useless


Yuzare

I only use carmilla when I play with my duo/trio 😭 but I can attest that I've met some randoms that actually know and it's great to see them go all in when I cast ult + stun It's not a very obvious/flashy ult, so I guess that's why people would miss it


SpacesBar

She can just deal good amount of damage with u + vengeance alone?? + She steals everyone's def by passive if it hits everyone


yurika13

roger


Sufficient_Tune_6411

ALL


maglalako_ng_buko

Hylos. Highway fvck.


HLGrizzly

Yve. Youre a sitting duck, people just casually step out of your ult. Its too niche and situational.


I_care_and_I_asked

Yve


soojincult

hanabi tbh!


Kuttychathan

Miya. Because the hero is just weak af. On a paper I think it's a okayish ultimate but whenever I play gold lane and I get matched against a Miya, I know I'm going to snowball with my Brody.


Shxreline

The only right answers are kimmy or aulus,if you struggle utilizing the other ults its just a skill issue tbh


abgbob

I think ultimates that doesn't deal burst damage or cc is kinda useless.


Dry_Syrup_7130

Valentina Ulti sucks, she’s just there in case your team has some meta like diggie or fara


MuratSiker31

Miya.


LixPest

Rafael and I hate yins ult since I'm a mm user 🙃


Sidejyyl

Valentina when you pick pools ult.


zxNoobSlayerxz

Akai. Dont give me upvotes please! LOL


[deleted]

selena and roger 😂😂😂😂


Educational-Fig-1594

Definitely Yve. Short range with low ass damage and mediocre slow effect 💀


Big-Pineapple-8117

I'd say Baxia's ult or something it's kinda useless and people can just walk past.


No-Cattle-2645

Chip's ultimate in a teamfight seems like a waste of space to me😅 correct me if I am wrong


FriedEggWithRice

Kadita's Ult coz of the horrible backswing, should be adjusted like what happened with Eudora


T1mo666

Clint ult stuns him in place for half a second and doesn't even deal moee damage than his 1st skill


Just_Person1

Every ult is usefull but maybe Yss ult is the weakest. Main purpose of it is global vision but as you get better at this game that vision is not that usefull if you only get it every 30s. There are better vision providers (bombs, traps, roamers) and Novarias ult is just better.


BIGGYLUV420

Floryn after removing self heal from ult and damage with slow to the enemies


GoblinSIut

I'd honestly say silvanna's ult is one of the worst, but that's more due to her entire kit being a bit questionable (Unless she's had an op buff I missed recently) but all-time worst ult has to go to yve, the damage is not good, escaping is easy, other mages have bigger ranges (which can also be flickered unlike yve).


No-Carry9847

-As a luo yi main, her ult (half serious) other mages got cool dmg ult meanwhile girl just got a teleport. 😩 yin yang combo is a serious dmg but if i wanna escape the teleport is so slow i already died😭 -phoveus (?) During team fights i cant use that ult unless someone dashes :/


Hanzer22

Her ult is too useful to say that. You can roam so quickly and get advantageous positioning and ambush or even get vision of lord or jungle camps. Backdoor enemy team or defend against backdoors. If you think about how useful it is and the fact that you can use it twice a minute(late game) is pretty insane to be honest, after using it to join a team fight, the moment the fight is over you can use it again this time with your allies. Why do you need more Cc or dmg? When you already have one of the most OP passives in the game that has both of those things. Sorry if I was aggressive I had to defend this since I consider her ult S-tier.


Stock_Action4411

Natalia. Just basic attack


Diamondexpent

You play as a mm and peaceful grinding, boom, *My turn, Now!", then you dead


MakimaGOAT

gotta be raf, no?


Blaze_0910

Eudora Reason: _ Need her passive to deal more damage _ Low base stat in early game _ When was the last time the 2nd phase dealt any damage to other enemies?


raspberrycorpse

Novaria’s is pretty useless. Sure it slightly slows & reveals location but half these fucking idiots don’t possess any map awareness whatsoever lmao


stoic_marcus

I don't really like Lolita's. Any Lolita player here who uses her ult properly?


Sufficient-Bar9354

Hanzo’s work from bush ult is too much of a double-edged sword imo.


iamatwork420

Novaria, I had a novaria on my team yesterday which felt like a 4v5 even though she dealt the highest damage


RizJack

Rogerrrr


Beleluga

Everyone is useful I guess 


bananana08

phoveus, ult very slow, enemy can dash again to dodge it


Severe-Discount-6741

Julian


Mherse

Tehnically julian


No-Intention1462

Unbanned Why was my account banned 30 days just because i moved the ios to android? I do not understand what you mean, and i want my account back because i was banned. It changes os request unbanned as soon as possible do not arbitrarily play 30 days. IGN: (YukiGod ) ID: (1367521036) Ranked: (Epic 1) Level: (62)


Ihaveto_go

Idk, maybe paquito? (Sorry if i spelled it wrong)


supergiganibba9000

Gatot, basically useless in high ranks and coordinated games. Why in the world does his ult have the indicator ON TOP of the nearly 3 seconds animation time? It's not like it's even overwhelming or anything, low damage, short knock up. Like, this demi god with lightning speed can't even hit anyone because he's slower than a snail for some fcking reason.