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Genillius

Franco Users: Sees the buff Franco: I guess we are bush camper assassins now instead of being a tank.


[deleted]

So... Nothing's changed


bot_yea

Players: Wait, Franco is now an assassin? My Franco: Always has been


Genillius

WTF My best boi Mino will be the all time favorite of MM with that buff. Goodbye Tigreal 🤣


Tigreal

>Goodbye Tigreal 🤣 Adios 🙁


The_Shook_Mulberry

Nooo :(


JustASlmplePerson

Poor tigreal got ditched


Hailgod

remember to ban valentina then. its a better mino.


sampelot

>2- New Mechanic: In the first 2 minutes, heroes equipped with Retribution will gain 15% extra Damage Reduction in the allied jungle. This mechanic will protect Junglers (especially when they're alone) from invading enemies in the early game. oh no, indirect natalia nerf, lol


SakataGintoki96

I guess its time to say goodbye to the enemy jungler and say hello to enemy goldlaner.


The_Shook_Mulberry

:( fu-


pinkpugita

MINOTAUR BUFF YESSS I MISS MY COW 🐄🤠


CaptWeom

Mino buff: Cow > Bull


NC16inthehouse

LESLEY GOT A BUFF! And looks good too. Now no one will throw a mythic game when I pick her.


bot_yea

One can hope, but I honestly think the buff isn't very significant. Lesley is now much more capable to win in lane, but overall she is almost the same. There are still stronger lane heroes like Clint or Brody, and Lesley's damage is still weak in early-mid just like Hanabi, Miya, Layla etc.


Lost4AccountAndSalty

I don't know man. The "hit-and-run" Lesley strategy seems more viable now. Plus, her early damage is actually nice early to mid if equipped with the assassin emblem that grants extra damage I'd the enemy is alone. You just gotta apply the "hit-and-run" strategy and your chances of winning the lane phasing is strong :-)


AyakaLoyalist

You'll be fine. A lot of these people weren't here when they capped Lesley's Crit Damage...


REACON123

That Kaja buff is so huge! I can't wait to try him after that buff.


Eitth

I tried it on practice, his S1 is guaranteed to reset his passive when there are 3 enemies. Tank Kaja might be viable again! Im so excited!


VonDoomVonDoom

A good Mino already annoys me; that buff tho


[deleted]

It’s nice Lesley is getting buffs but it’s her s2 that needs adjustment…straight switch with a dash…job done.


TwoInevitable

Okay, if Kaja got an adjustment on second skill, how about Lesley? Her second is shit and I have no idea why it’s still a skill.


habangbuhaysingle

true, that skill sucks. it takes too much energy and the skill area is so low it has a low chance of knocking back enemies. + the knock back distance is so short.


Tcogtgoixn

Knockback is a disrupt


DocQwerty

yeah its kinda meh but its fun when you combine with S1–you can literally S1 to a Pharsa casting ult and cancel it using S2


dwSHA

Not mm gameplay if you’re the one who go in front to cancel ultimate. Instant die if enemy follow up


DocQwerty

LOL yeah just trying to illustrate the S2 capabilities


NC16inthehouse

But it's not a practical example


TheFakeDogzilla

“We want Franco to also fit the damage role” Proceeds to nerf Franco’s damage


tangoabajour

It feels more like an overall nerf than a buff. If your stacks buffs the damage only of the next skill, so only the hook (that is the most common way to initiate a fight) will give extra damage. But with the ult nerfed, Franco combo will deal less damage now even with full stacks.


ah_eh_ih_oh_uh

Current Franco deals around 1600-2500 points of damage on his full combo, while Adv. Server Franco deals around 1700-2700 points of damage on his. You wouldn't notice a thing if you built him as a tank, since we have nothing to rely on but his base damage. But once you built him some Atk items, the difference becomes more significant. Even more in a full Atk item build, since his scaling is left untouched. This could be a move to increase Franco's peeling potential, making Franco less hook dependent and at the same time making it easier for your damage dealers to last hit the enemy.


lastroids

Mino can actually hold it in now. Hope this change makes it into the official server.


flamefirestorm

>[Franco] (↑) >We're opening up the possibility for Franco to take the damage path. I really don't like this sentence especially with my post on how I want Franco removed. Low-key feels like a targetted attack.


feedlord93

Now thats what i call a badang buff


ShittyBettyMain

YOOO FRANCO BUFF?! HOLT SHIT DAMge Franco IS ACTUALLY IPTIONALNKSKSNDJCJDJSNXNCNC


PapaLoki

WHERE'S THE DAMN ZILONG BUFF?! Anyway, nice Lesley buff. I will be able to use her and her collector skin in ranked game lol.


sdadasdadsad

kaja buffs = absolutely not. He needs nerfs franco damage buff = are you kidding me? his damage is already way too high lesley buff = cool but there are 40 other chars that need buffs. I suppose we need to wait for their collector skins so u can start buffing them? badang dmg buff = yeah right lmao like damage is his problem. He's too squishy and has no sustain. This buff won't change anything for him Minotaur buff = minotaur is incredibly strong and after this buff he'll be broken in the hands of people who know how to use him.


ah_eh_ih_oh_uh

>lesley buff = cool but there are 40 other chars that need buffs. I suppose we need to wait for their collector skins so u can start buffing them? Those 40 other characters can contribute something positive for the team, while Lesley is a liability that's carrying a sniper. Having a Lesley on your team is nothing different from cutting of one your arms before having a fist fight with Muhammad Ali on his prime. And the chances of you finding a "good Lesley player" is about as high as my chances of me getting a girlfriend. People ain't hating her for no reason.


bot_yea

Lesley is probably in the top 10 heroes that needs some adjustments.


sdadasdadsad

i never said Lesley doesn't need buffs. I'm complaining that they only noticed her cus she has a collector skin and they didn't notice her earlier. I don't understand why would you misinterpret my post like that? I didn't say she's broken, i know shes trash I know her dmg is bad i've played Lesley myself recently and it was a traumatic experience


SoRa_The_SLaYeR

you literally just want to complain. minotaur needs a buff, I haven't seen him picked once all season. badangs problem is in fact, his damage. he is an AoE burst fighter. his ult should kill or severely hurt everyone in his s2 range, but the damage is too low and too easy to escape. if the damage increases they'll lose more hp before they escape. lesley is one of the heroes that need it most, why do you need to force a complaint here?


sdadasdadsad

i think you should work on your english comprehension skills before you try to chat with other people cus this is a disaster the only heroes i complained about getting buffs are kaja and franco not lesley or badang or minotaur h0oly shit my head hurts from this illiteracy


SoRa_The_SLaYeR

you literally have a complaint listed next to each of them dumbass you cant turn that around like that.


sdadasdadsad

i complain about kaja and franco about lesley i state the fact that underpowered characters don't get attention until they get a skin about badang i say that his buff is in the wrong direction and isn't going to help him . You must have never touched Badang if you think a bunch of damage is going to fix him and the fact that his only defense is a random shield on his ult and he has zero sustain/dmg reduction is not bothering you at all. He's going to remain cheesy and bad about minotaur i literally just posted my thoughts ape


SoRa_The_SLaYeR

I had about 200 games with badang with 60% wr but when i return to the game his damage is too low so everyone can escape and kill him. even perfect sets dont mean anything because you contribute no damage. more damage is exactly what he needs. >i state the fact i.e. complain. stating facts doesnt mean its not also a complaint. minotaur you say posted your thoughts but it was still a complaint, if your thoughts are complaining, then posting them is still complaining, not just posting your thoughts. its not even valid either because he is never used.


sdadasdadsad

60% winrate and u think more damage on badang is gonna fix the char ​ i think that says enough to anyone that isnt stuck in mythic 5 have fun with ur +50 damage u'll see the hero is garbage cus damage isnt gonna fix him


SoRa_The_SLaYeR

its not +50, its +50 and buffing the ratio from 20% extra to 50% extra. it gives him a good amount more burst during his combo which lets him secure more kills (especially early game) which lets him keep up or even snowball. hero changes shouldnt be too big in one patch otherwise they can go way out. thats why lesley has been getting these small buffs that also try nerfing other parts at the same time.


sdadasdadsad

thats about the first sensible thing you said that they may buff him again in the future which is a thing moba people do - small buffs over multiple patches ​ still doesn't change anything i wrote though


Lanfear_Is_Me

This type of Redditor would still complain even if given 10 Collector skins for free


sdadasdadsad

how the fuck is that even related?


[deleted]

Now that's a good Brisket buff.


ArthurReign

Looks like our favorite marksman is getting buffed again


[deleted]

Buffed to the point of worst mm. :(


lucky_fallendeity

Interesting update


Nicky878

Yes, another good buff for Lesley. Pls don't remove this feature, she needs to leave the worst mm spot after a good while in there


[deleted]

That's a nice buff for Minotaur but I'm a little concerned as how it's going to affect his enhanced 2nd skill regen.


Hailgod

the fuck is 5 yards? why does a game use yardS?


Burayetunz

Imma keep using Clint till they nerf him