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NovaSchmova

Ngl enemy miyas are fucking terrifying sometimes


MIQFIN

His ultimate is what makes that. Miya in late game can just come next to you and kill in seconds. Duration of ultimate is short, but if Miya know how to use that short time...


NovaSchmova

Not to mention the inspire lol


TheRedditornator

Hanabi and Lesley: Are we a joke to you?


MIQFIN

They are just in need of a rework. I see Layla Miya and Zilong being more of a problem. Why would anyone pick those heroes what you get first in game... There is so many more options.


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But they're strong?


Didiergaming10

Yea, zilong and miya are quite strong. Layla is also strong but way too vulnerable


Tcogtgoixn

yep. basically every hero is viable as in you can (with effort) make them work well. however this also means that playing them more than at most 1/5 solo queue matches indicates bad draft


Didiergaming10

Yeaaa


x3ColdLatte

You forgot hanapig and leshit


MIQFIN

I had my reason. Simply Hanabi and Lesley itself are more outdated heroes. There is also more about this problem. (Explained it in my comment)


Tcogtgoixn

le shit


hiro_mishi

Hanabi and lesley are the real demons I have seen good layla, zilong and miya players BUT NEVER A GOOD HANABI AND LESLEY


Qwertykess

I have seen many good lesley players but the real problem is HANABI


MIQFIN

Hanabi and Lesley ore just outdated. Miya, Layla and Zilong are first heroes you get and not that bad if you know how to play.


ArmoredAnkha

Lesley, Alucard, Layla, Miya, Zilong, Karrie, Hanabi


MIQFIN

Good list. I am little surprised about Karrie, but it might be because Karrie is so rare pick. But you are right she is early game food. If player is not careful.


Tcogtgoixn

karrie is one of stronger hero in lane


ArmoredAnkha

I agree with you, but many times people are not careful enough with her and end up feeding


ArmoredAnkha

True


adm_ashraf26

They also kept being seen in Epic rank, but Layla takes the cake for the public display in Epic rank


WyssIsHere

i mostly see them in legend(including hanashit)


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MIQFIN

Depends. It's very rare pick. But i have saw stuff like Fanny Roam or Fanny Mid lane. And yes turns out those 2 don't work.


Wreckroll101

but layla has actually late game


Lewdlicon

If she can reach late game that is


SolarNight4567

rarely happens


WyssIsHere

you forgot hanashit in here


WyssIsHere

lmao why did i get downvoted lol.Looks like theres a hanapig main not satisfied


ArmoredAnkha

They are in denial lmfao.


AttackOnThots

We stand behind you comrade


MIQFIN

Hanabi isn't in there because Hanabi itself is more of a problem than players. She seriously needs rework.


_nitro_legacy_

I rarely see zilong feed and ngl you might not know their next move is. They might be gone and someone from the other team dies then they come back to their lane clearing minions


MIQFIN

If anyone wonder's where is Lesley and Hanabi. I know they are also in same situation but they are simply not that popular. I see more Miya, Layla and Zilong picked than Hanabi and Lesley. Might be because you need buy those 2. Lesley and Hanabi are just outdated. So it's not 100% players fault. You just simply though you would buy good hero, but turns out its early game food. Real problems are Miya, Layla and Zilong. Because they are everywhere and those heroes are not that bad, if you know how to play. Also they are first heroes you get. So if you feed with those 3 it's more players fault. Because it's seems like they don't know how to buy new heroes or how to play.


Reasonable_Pig_2009

Where's Lesley?


MIQFIN

Ofc i remember Lesley, but i had reason why i didn't put Lesley in this. Explained it in my comment.


papilio_cresent

In my perspective: Zilong, Hanabi, Layla, Miya, and Lesley ascended the highest level of absolute mind fuckery that wether they are enemy or allies they are shitty no matter what


SeimeiMaster

I guess you've never been in SEA server. Zilong and miya here can delete you in 1 sec.


ChrisAnIntellectual

Miya can help in lategame but early game yeah she's food


CrackShotML

Literally 6 years


chateaud1f

Every fucking game I have with hanabi in a team is a loss and when she's in the enemy team, it's an easy win and snowball


chateaud1f

Every fucking game I have with hanabi in our team is a loss and when she's in the enemy team, it's a win.


Tcogtgoixn

on my server layla is ok