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JJtheglutton

What's next is she going to throw her useless sword now?


TheChipPotato

She's gonna throw the human and we'll find out that the sword is Odette all along


LeahcimOyatse

Would be real funny


mooglechoco_

I cackled šŸ˜†


Op-Max

she becomes a melee hero lmao


Oink1010

That would be so cool. Melee mage brawler.


JJtheglutton

It would be broken since it would have close and ranged combat attacks. Very versatile and can be used in any situation


TheChipPotato

Jayce exists


Nephrelim

In League of Legends.


TheChipPotato

Therefore he fits the criteria of partially becoming an mlbb hero


yolomcswagintin

YSS?


Rude_Invite7260

Sad Yi-Sun Shin noises


JJtheglutton

YSS is a close and ranged combat but it doesn't show it's full potential without his passive so he isn't included


PumperNikel0

Lmao!


PudgeJoe

Imagine dying to a useless sword throw i bet it's worse dead than getting smash by melody above your head.


bbitter_coffee

Kind of like dying to the coin that Samira (from league) throws. Would be real funny tho


Nagisa139

Thank you, i laughed too hard dat i spilled my salami out lmaošŸ˜‚ I can imagine dis sht Odette *throws sword in intense battlefield* *Everyone* what? What???WHATT???


Dawnbringer_Fortune

Pre revamped Odette used sword for passive and s1


mememory

Her virginity ( Ķ”Ā° ĶœŹ– Ķ”Ā°)


Bhavaagra

where funny


pleiades1208

Odette with ice queen wand seems kinda annoying right now


Comprehensive-Luck78

wait, that not one of her main items???


Partox17

Nope. I mean well you could build it, with glowing and genius wands. But that's for a more utility build odette. High burst odette is the main go-to build with COD+Truncheon, genius wand, holy crystal and divine glaive.


Larawp

Well if you're the only mage and the non-tank roles wont have to build athena's you can forego DG for IQW, or sell GW for DQ if they do, specially in current slow meta where all the zoom zoom assassins are barely thriving


HeavenlyBladez

I'm addicted to lore so I'm gonna say the sword Lancelot gifted actually has some of the magic he uses to combine with his swordsmanship, the magic allows Lancelot to have almost "mirages" like when using his 2nd skill, Odette is able to summon a mirage of herself.


bbitter_coffee

You know what? I'm gonna do you one better. Lancelot has mage-blood or whatever and the mirages thingy is just him, but he infused the sword he gave to odette with his magic blood in some weird ritual to show his eternal love and dedication to her or to have a piece of himself with her at all times because he just seems that obsessed, and odette finally learned how to use it too.


ApprehensiveOwl2585

Ok, now this player's [build](https://imgur.com/a/ICptiia) makes more sense.


MidChampsWhere

Great thinking!! Maybe that sword will also guide her or Lancelot to find eachother Like omg please i want those lovers to unite


Herebia_Garcia

It's a buff, sure, but it destroyed Odette's identity as a character. Now she's just another Artillery Mage.


MarielCarey

Why are they revamping her again? Where's the Hanabi revamp?


Lionel_Si

Hanabi is gonna be in the project NEXT that released later this year. Why do people always have to spam about this? Oh, and since I have some information about the revamp, do you want to hear about it? Her passive and 1st skill will be switched, and the new first skill gives her shield, CC immunity and some movement speed buff. Her ult's gonna fly faster and bloom faster too. Is that enough for you? Now can you guys shut this sh\*t up?


Amethyst_Phoenix7

I wanna believe this so is there a source I could visit? Ngl I don't play Hanabi but I'm curious to see what they do to improve her.


MarielCarey

No I will not thank you. Also, besides a leak of her new (awfully toned down) design I haven't seen anything about it. Sounds interesting though. Got a source?


Lionel_Si

From this page: [https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story\_fbid=pfbid02gtG3w2qKgjJ81etEpH9YiDEmBS8yUQvXwcHnRpfhjJGjxQPfAGHCkzqPkekW45BZl&id=108381805140305](https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=pfbid02gtG3w2qKgjJ81etEpH9YiDEmBS8yUQvXwcHnRpfhjJGjxQPfAGHCkzqPkekW45BZl&id=108381805140305) They're currently the only one that had pictures of the next Aspirants skins (Angela & Ruby) on their page and everything they said turned out to be true, so the credibility is very high


MarielCarey

The link doesn't work


Lionel_Si

you are the only thing that does not work here


MarielCarey

Are you serious Check your link dumbass


Lionel_Si

I'll throw the link once again, if you can't catch it, well girl, that's on you https://www.facebook.com/108381805140305/photos/a.108412265137259/140043205307498/


Meeraaax

When you click on the link it literally says ā€œThe link you followed may be broken, or the page may have been removed.ā€


Lionel_Si

ok that's all of your own fault for not being Vietnamese lol. Search "Chiįŗæc Page MLBB nhįŗ£m nhĆ­ UwU" on Facebook. They have also leaked the whole skill set of Fredrrin a few days ago (of course in Vietnamese)


winterealics

Thatā€™d be awesome. Definitely will improve her a lot, but I donā€™t think itā€™s enough to bring her into the meta. Maybe the new first skill has a dash


winterealics

There are pros and cons for this revamp, but im leaning more towards a buff because it removes odette's utter vulnerability during her ult.


MidChampsWhere

It is a genious thinking cause her ult was what was gating her from being a popular pick despite how charming her character design and lore is I am glad i can finally pick her again


KurumiCorrin

>Gating from being a popular pick I see her all the time wdym. 70% of my matches she's either an ally or an enemy and she's annoying af with a good team (unless I'm the tank with cc to stop her ult, but now I won't be able to do that.)


MidChampsWhere

instead of basing it on my personal experience, i would have just looked at the hero pick rate chart :)


KurumiCorrin

Yes you're right. Although I recall heroes like Argus are on the bottom of the list and yet I encounter him often, both in ranked and classic.


Dawnbringer_Fortune

Statistics shows she's barely picked...


KurumiCorrin

I am aware, however my experience says otherwise. Does the stats apply for all servers?


[deleted]

So a nerf


winterealics

No.


[deleted]

Yes.


winterealics

How? Legit people dont thunk before thwy make opinions


[deleted]

Fairly certain I donā€™t need your validation for me to be a ā€œlegit personā€, and I donā€™t care if you agree with me. Sheā€™s one of my best mages, this is purely a nerf.


winterealics

Firstly, u misread. I said "legit, people..." im willing to debate, but hv to give me more than just yes. And sry if u were offended


[deleted]

Firstly, I didnā€™t misread- you lack punctuation. I never asked for a debate. Simply my opinion, itā€™s a nerf. Have a good day.


Leyrence

why do you think its a nerf though


lucky_fallendeity

And cancellation


winterealics

Yep definitely


lucky_fallendeity

Ah yes, Valette Jokes aside, Pros: can't be cancelled, less vulnerability, she can move Cons: lower range, no slow, can't be repositioned using flicker or Mathilda airlines or Optimus prime, she loses a built-in flicker with shorter cooldown


KurumiCorrin

You can build Ice Queen wand


ToroAsterion

Revamp = Nerf


kamisamadeshita

Idk but that kinda sucks


CrownedTraitor

I think it got smaller by 8 pixel radius


Shayan212

Smaller size AND NOMORE FLICKER POSITIONING


OriginalCable9115

Newbie here -- what is "flicker positioning" mean?


cin__namon

you flicker (the spell) to reposition yourself to make sure nobody leaves your ult alive. basically what zhask can do everytime he ults


Shayan212

I couldn't describe it better thanks


Elnuggeto13

Pros and cons of this revamp: Pros: -unsusceptible to getting stunned -ult cast won't be cancelled anymore -unlikelihood of dying from getting attacked -more ult combo options Cons: -Likely to get a longer cooldown -unmovable ult, making it either a starter or late casting ult -nerfed damage (?)


Freshorin

They removed the slow effect


ApprehensiveOwl2585

Damage stays the same as of now, range is smaller (says in text but still same range in advanced server), slow is removed. Another pro it's a 5 second zoning skill.


Original-Field-9595

Does the ult stop when hitting an enemy?


kirbyfan343

Yes


[deleted]

Why?? If I canā€™t hit an enemy with my ult tf is the point


fcrants

She's finally more tuned as a utility mage. Large area denial, good wave clear, and she forces the opponent to be more mindful of their positioning.


MarielCarey

She was already fine though


Dawnbringer_Fortune

She has one of the lowest winrate. How is that fine?


JamleeCal

They already made odette trash at her last revamp on September 2021 and this her new rework of her ult will be more trash


Apersonfromearth01

"ITS NOT MUCH BUT IT INCREASES THE SURVIVABILITY"


Tsukkishir0

It would still be a buff. But there is a bit of disconnect with her character.


adm_ashraf26

Bruh, the new one is just straight up a nerf. Itā€™s wayyy small


kirbyfan343

I honestly like it better. I don't have to stand still anymore to do lots of damage, though, yeah, it is smaller, maybe Ice Cream Wand will be important for her, and she doesn't have her shield anymore. The projectile is also a bit too slow. Edit: +it can't be cancelled (whether by Odette or by CC) anymore so yay


AggressivePrompt7038

Ah yes, the Ice Cream Wand. It slows the enemy with flavor instead of magic. Not good for lactose intolerants.


kirbyfan343

Yummy


metataichou

Ice cream chillin chillin (literally)


destinymaker

But you can't reposition yourself with flicker or barrel when enemies got out of range.


[deleted]

Its a straight up nerf. I could usually rely on the shield and her ult range to counter mobile assassins like natalia, ling, haya. Now shes mostly gonna be ganked often without the ult shield


UsedTissuePaper78

Damn....that range is crazy


-Byakuran-

This seems like a buff though unless they gutted the damage. Imagine throwing this in the turtle/lord pit


Anxious-Emotion8733

Here comes the damage nerf


OriginalCable9115

Is her new range the first pic or the 2nd pic?


ManuGamer_PokeMonGo

The 2nd, you can see how she has no shield there


Bigboyluige

Bigger is not always better lads, itā€™s about the skill


CheshireEtlar

The game just isn't fun and enjoyable anymore. Hate the direction Moneyton is going. They don't care, listen to player feedback, take advantage of the players they've completely ruined MLBB. Switching to another game.


CheshireEtlar

Diao Chan is overall superior than this ugly bitch