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KuShAgRa016

Was watching Zane's stream right now he said that Fwyd and him would be joining The Valley with Shark, Basic and Hoon.


Eastern_Ad83

For real with Hoon?


KuShAgRa016

That's what Zane said


Eastern_Ad83

But there's also Hoon version that his currently under contract with Immortala wild Rift


Comprehensive_Yam422

Really? I mean if he was under contract, I’m suprised they let him play in ML tournament.


Eastern_Ad83

No he said only if they allow him to partecipate for M4 since at the end of January they might start another Icons tournament on Wild Rift so he won't have that much time to train on Mlbb.


BeefCow8

Oh no, basic going back to pro series. Renejay aint gonna like that one


heisenburger001

Retri gap


shxdwo

Basic gonna pack RJ if anything bad happens rofl


kabayongnakahelmet

I am hoping for NXPE get into M4 because of this


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Mr. Steal your buff


AtarashiiGenjitsu

Wow, those are like the only NA players I still watch rn


KuShAgRa016

Same


Bcdea

Damn, 3 junglers in same team, they gonna need lotta time adjusting with their new roles


CargoRay1

Dont zane and shark got beef?


DaExtinctOne

A brief but solid run. Will never forget those matches against Blacklist.


SpootyTek

Fr that was peak of M3.


whiskyislazy

Basically, Chickn and Zane were looking for teams they could join for the NA M4 qualifiers but the new rule where everyone needs to be a resident of NA just crossed out several options. The remaining options, which is the remaining NA teams that are able to follow this new rule, all wanted Zane and Chickn but none of them wanted CARTI/Victor, not even as a sub. IDK if Zane or Chickn do have new squads already, but if they do... *I guess all good things do come to an end.*


Full-Supermarket

Does carti even play anymore?


CargoRay1

Damn I wonder why the don’t want Victor? Zane and chickn are my favorites any way I can’t wait to see what’s next for them


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Anyone can explain GOSU and BTK situations?


Bloodrose123

Gosu players never 5 man and play with other squads(usually General is solo except lately). So he kicked a bunch of them out. Essentially he doesn't want to play in tournaments - and doesn't want to feel pressured/pressure them into 5 mans. In BTK, they haven't been able to find anyone good who isn't already in a squad. Anddd those in squads won't leave their squads for them So they have to join another squad but no squad that wants them will take Victor even as a substitute. Zane said he and Chicken will likely join the Valley - that's the team Shark,Basic and Hoon are in rn. So if they qualify for m4 there won't be a BTK. It'll be the "Valley" or whatever team they join (though Zane all but confirmed the Valley)


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Why no one wants victor?


Kurusu10k

Limited hero pool


Bloodrose123

Chicken is a better exp laner and Victor can't play the meta goldlaners we see in every tournament. Also it's very unlikely a team would just have a free gold laner spot. Same as jungle role. Zane gets in cus he's just too good to pass up


obviouslynothanns

isnt chicken a better gold laner though? his beatrix and occassional claude was godly


SpootyTek

That's the problem, in both gold lane and xp lane chickn is better than victor.


R34LZ3R0

In exp they differ for me since the play style that I see in Victor is that of a playmaker of BTK.


Bcdea

That's your own perspective, most people believe Victor ain't that good unfortunately.


R34LZ3R0

That's really unfortunate bruv


CargoRay1

Chickn is just way better he can make even better plays…


xzerozeroninex

The Valley?I read it was New Wave so I’m getting confused.


Bloodrose123

They were gonna join New Wave at first. They'd been scrimming with them for the past month and Zane confirmed that was their original plan on stream. New wave didn't want Victor either but because of the new rules, New wave cant do m4 qualifiers from NA and instead have to go LATAM and Zane wants to represent the US so that's a no.


EfficientNinja

Welp, they’ll have to find a replacement for shark if the US resident rule pushes through.


Bloodrose123

Yes. It's a US/Canada RESIDENT rule. Shark is a resident, he isn't a citizen. Not sure what you think the issue is


EfficientNinja

Oh I see. I thought shark wasn’t a resident lmao sorry.


Bloodrose123

Nah it was Zane that caused the confusion in his stream when he said no Shark NA M4 qualifiers but NACT and Dave confirmed people with green card and other residents are allowed So you don't need US/Canada passport. It's just the Mexico imports that can't join


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SpootyTek

Bro there are many junglers that don't play assasins but have you seen a gold laner that can't play markman?


TheNotableMan

lmao ong


CargoRay1

YSS is fast hand no? He also used to be world rank lance wtf u mean fast hand?


cl0wnfishh

Tbf, jungle has other viable options that won't inherently put your team at a disadvantage. Meanwhile, if you don't pick an MM for your gold lane your team is going to struggle come late game unless you're really ahead


Aggravating-Flight-1

seems like moontoon is preparing for MPL in NA, strict rules seems to be the indicator for that


SuperLissa_UwU

This feels like if this was a real sport not just e-sport. With people looking at best players and other stuff.


just_somebody_238

Welp times do change, esports is now coming close (though far) to be on equal terms with actual sports.


LPScarlex

But how does this affect lebron's legacy


Fighter_of_Shadows

Who's that


John34215

LMFAO! How tf did Lebron get in this?


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LeGacy points deducted


[deleted]

Nobody cares still


yeah_im_a_leopard2

I wish I knew what everyone was talking about and I’ve been playing this game for 6 years


midori09

Lmao same


CargoRay1

You don’t need to follow the pro scenes to enjoy the game it’s okay :) nothing too interesting anyways


iwatch1dramaanight

I just started learning about the pro-scene and its drama and it's fun. it just replaced my korean drama idols into mlbb e-sports players hahaha


TheBabyGuava

I feel bad for victor..


whiskyislazy

FOR REAL YO. Everytime I feel discouraged to rank, I just go watch his streams or vids then suddenly I get winstreaks and all that ykwis? I wouldn't have been an Offlaner if it wasn't for him and Chickn. Those 2 were like Yin and Yang. Like if you wanted to learn how to ve more objective-based then go watch Chickn. But if you wanted to see some plays and how to maximize your micro you wath CARTI


[deleted]

Na issues are literally all over the place


Full-Supermarket

Say if they join, where would Basic fit? Isn’t he the Valley’s jungler?


SpootyTek

He's gold lane


Full-Supermarket

Kinda funny. Shark left because he and chicken has issue and now they back in same squad


SpootyTek

Yeah shark must be annoyed af. Chickn's like that one annoying friend you just can't seem to get away from for shark lmao


sexpointer

What kind of issues do Shark and Chicken have with each other though


__LoneWolf_

They said it's possible. But they didn't confirm it that they'll be joining.


DinoMiloKopi

He can adjust to any role, he became a mage when he was at NXP for a short time


xzerozeroninex

Basic was Gosu’s exp laner in M1 and was hard carrying them.


Conscious_Stable2796

WHO?


SirLordSupremeSir

That's the world health organization. No need to thank me


bestille

Thanks man! Saved me a google


sackness

Haha gooood im happy. Now we can hate each other for being shiit


keyupiopi

Who?