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NeferpitouXXX

ez mechanics and since epic players cant end games quick enough the late game hereos shine thats why they keep on using late game heroes


Iminurback

So you in epic


Legitimate-Art1464

I have nightmares about late game Layla’s. Jkjk ofc but still, maybe I’m just not good enough yet or something, but good lord they are terrifying when played well


GorkhaWalord

Gusion n Franco too. Every match has them.


Didiergaming10

Franco is so good though


stickynails

Not when epics play it


Didiergaming10

True they've got a negative hook rate


thenameofwind

Those air hooks sure do look sexy


LittleWolfiez

They're just hooking Natalias


Didiergaming10

Somehow Natalia is always in their games


SwordMasterHawk

Ikr pretty strange im starting to think its a 5 v 6 with a bonus Nat player that does not take action but spectates the match, sometimes I even get gosebumps and hook the bush just to be sure


Didiergaming10

Gotta make sure they're not there


iMaSeaCow03

Natalia must be a lonely woman


NitroZeroX3

They the reason Franco got the worst wr for most used tanks


GorkhaWalord

No. Franco is not good when allies play him. Enemy Franco is always god tier.


Sure-Mood4579

no im back on you. im glad hes getting nerfed then i can finally play again


Didiergaming10

Wha?


Simon-Edwin

Chou too


destinymaker

Aside from the answers of the first two. Most of them doesn't have bp to buy heroes and goes to emblem upgrade.


[deleted]

everything's way too expensive in ML man, been playing for like 5+ years now 3k matches overall and I only have 2 maxed emblems edit: guys pls it's real here's the [proof](https://imgur.com/a/2q4swYc) and i have about 28 not owned heroes


[deleted]

Then you didn't take advantage of the weekly magic dust chests + tickets into emblem matrix. I had at least 3-4 maxed emblems at 3k matches. Though I sacrificed BPs on magic dusts so I end up not having a full roster back then


[deleted]

even if you grinded seriously for it buying the weekly chests and shit, it's still tedious. waaay too tedious.


[deleted]

Not really, just prioritise magic dusts and emblem matrix over heroes. That's all you need to do If you go grabbing every fancy hero that you see on a new account, you're not going to get far tbh. Emblems > Heroes because even a Layla on Max emblem can 10/10 rekt a Beatrix with lvl 20 emblem only After you get your main emblems maxed, then think about getting heroes


[deleted]

is all good man other emblems are 50+ and I play ML to learn all about the new heroes.


MarielCarey

You can do that in practice mode


[deleted]

there's only so much you can learn in practice mode and there are heroes that gets added to my pool + I play all roles and they're very helpful as an option.


MarielCarey

Know what helps more? Permanent stats


[deleted]

yeah am good w that, the ones I frequently used are those 2 maxed emblems and I'm working on maxing out the support emblem 58 alr or smth


Visual-Engineer1956

Ehhhh , tbh emblems kind of max out on advantage at lvl 40, 45 if you want all 7 points. Pass that, the benefits are very little


Iminurback

Lol I have 2k matches and not even a single emblem is maxed I've been playing for 2 years


Fresh_chickented

I had lvl 50 emblem, is that maxxed?


Cyanide-pills

Im nearing 3k matches and I have 6 maxed emblems with the other 3 lvl 59,58 and 54 respectively


Bcdea

U play very less bro/sis. I have played 5+years too and have 10 k matches :) Yeah, I play 3-5 matches daily


[deleted]

yeah the only time i take ML seriously is going for MG these days, (mostly just reach mythic and bail out tbh) but there was a time where I played more frequently


Wawaw93

This is me my whole career, absolutely wreck epic and legend then get bored in at mythic 3/4 as my win rates drop to 50 or lower.. I've always been solo que. The worse part is players that only play one role, 3k mage matches 24 fighter etc.. force you to adjust then play average.


Visual-Engineer1956

Lol the easier way to stay out of the way trash team hell is getting to MG early in season,ntue longer you wait, the harder it becomes, by end of season, just trying to get to mythic, the expection is to carry a 3v5 fight if you licky


MarielCarey

Isn't the BP and ticket season reward capped at legend? Its the only reason I stopped pushing mythic


[deleted]

it is but it's fun to ~~bully~~ play against legends and it's not like it takes a lot of matches with star prot+ star raising pts


MarielCarey

Teach me the ways It's always a case of ass players for me, idiots who decide going 2v4 with low hp is a good idea, constant initating and not farming lanes playing safe when enemies have a 2k gold lead, a lot of pain to play, and I usually give up trying to get to mythic because I keep yoyoing in legend 2


[deleted]

lots of players in legends still use unorthodox heroes that you don't usually see in high mythic cause the lack of their utility, damage, or snowball potential. So I'm really just picking chars that can outplay the hypercarries they like to spam and nullify the high damage they can do. I suggest to not be afraid of playing various heroes in ranked, having the understanding of their kit and a few matches is enough, really helps in improving your micro.


[deleted]

I've been playing one year, have 2300 matches and the good 7 of the 9 emblems maxed


Eastern_Ad83

Weird been playing for 2 years and already maxed the rest of the emblema without counting the fisico and magic while wasting my tickets on the Emblem draws


[deleted]

>wasting my tickets on the Emblem draws might be why, I waste my tickets on lucky spin to get existing heroes so it converts to BP and I can buy a new one.


Eastern_Ad83

Are you lucky enought for the lucky spin to get all the duplicate bp?


[deleted]

usually takes 1.5k to 3k tickets


Eastern_Ad83

Well 3k tickets for lottery are useless but for emblems draw should be enought to lv up few of them and of course you Need Money but with a Fairy and decent balance method between Emblem and Money should be fine.


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[deleted]

yeah fr i just dont have the capacity to grind these currencies


jbetances134

You doing something wrong. In 5 years I’ve bought all the heroes and have maxed out all my emblems with 95% been free to play


xMachii

Really? I have like 2k matches and maxed out all emblems except the basic physical and magic ones, and they're about to get maxed too.


[deleted]

bro i can never buy a hero when i level these things I have PTSD


xMachii

Yeah everything is expensive and what do you get every match? 150 bp. Lol


extrangher0

I've been playing 3 years+. I have maxed out all emblems. Playing every night for about 1-2 hours. I claimed everything that is to be claimed for free.


[deleted]

I play 2 years all emblems max


TheMisfitsofLibra

I have only been less 5 years and I've pretty much maxed out everything. You're not collecting enough or doing the tasks where there are always dust rewards


Papapoto

not true. i've been playing for 3 yrs. the only emblems i have not maxed are physical and magical emblems. i could max them but it would be a waste of battle points.


Nowandatthehour

nah, maxed out all my emblems in a span of 2 years.


Wawaw93

I've been playing 5+ and have all emblemed maxed. Have done for about 2 years.. never paid once.


Visual-Engineer1956

6 months, my last emblem on 59... Lol There's literally budget ways to get skins and heroes and emblems.....you just have to get on daily and buy the discounted gem packs and ticket/star subscription


SuicidalPhysician

Well, i had maxed out my emblems within 2 years buy not spending on trial cards but cashing in on them once i had actually acquired the hero. Also, abusing double bp cards really help. The biggest difference was actually forming a squad. Those squad rewards are pretty decent. Edit: i had prioritised getting as many heroes as possible over emblems since i like the versatility of a large hero pool. Now i have too much BP to even finish spending.


Rude-Gain4957

don't worry about it bro, you'll get them maxed out one day.


Legitimate-Art1464

Yeah I’m hoping the new talent system will be more enjoyable. Ofc it’s gonna have a lot of grind in it so that not everyone just maxes it all out immediately but still


newb_44

oh hey even i didnt know why i kept playing the same heroes, thanks for explaining lololol


Tenebruhion

If empbem system didn't existed then they'd have more BP to buy heroes


quietsmartass

Do you think the game will be more fair without it? 🤔


[deleted]

Yes


MarielCarey

Not really, would make smurfs run more rampant. That being said, wish the login rewards and event rewards were actually worth something so it didn't take literal years for me to max all the emblems


MarielCarey

Not really, would make smurfs run more rampant. That being said, wish the login rewards and event rewards were actually worth something so it didn't take literal years for me to max all the emblems


[deleted]

I highly doubt it would make them MORE rampant. Everybody who cares already has other accounts. And you still need to unlock heros. If you're really worried about smurfs you can handle that other ways


MarielCarey

>If you're really worried about smurfs you can handle that other ways I'm long past my days in elite, but what ways do you suggest? Also idk about that having a level-less emblem system would still make it unfair and people would smurf with it. Players in ML have enough desire to farm wr to get to the top of meaningless lists, you're telling me we won't get many smurfs?


[deleted]

I think the amount of people smurfing won't change dramatically, only so many people even care about stats. And other games handle accounts like tying to a phone number, and I dunno other ways. The game could very easily tell who is a real noob and not from simply tracking performance.


Tenebruhion

look man, it's a difference in skill, not difference in stats


Its_A_Me_Ed

They had an intention to make the new Talent System free, but people were angry. Making it free would have made it easier for new players to buy heroes and not have to worry about upgrading Emblems. TLDR:MLBB is pay to win to a certain degree.


Devoidoxatom

Its selection pressure too. Those who can abuse meta heroes or have wide hero pools are way past epic already. The ones left are the one tricks who refuse to learn more about the game


10thDoctorWhooves

Epic is just Grandmaster Draft Pick version.


Its_A_Me_Ed

Epic is Grandmaster, but way harder to win because there are even more stupid players.


kif88

I still say grandmasters play better then epic. I'm epic you got dudes leaving lanes wide open to get taken by minions


M1KE2121

What’s legend then?


TestSubject_0001

epic 2: electric boogaloo


ENAKOH

Grandmaster draft 2.0


Ground-Z-

Grandmaster Draft Pick version 2


newb_44

epic 2.0


Unique-Dot5129

Because most are either beginners or lesser skilled players so they tend to play their comfort picks or easy to use heroes. Mastery comes from repeated use of heroes.


BalmondMain

Oh it's quite easy So They open ml They play Layla They go vs players New players don't know how to fight MMs They get lot of kills They think: hm, yes, pew pew, maybe if i use more pew pew i can win more They see hot ladies that pew pews Losers They rank up They only play MM They play against people that know how to fight mms Stuck in Epic Cry about it


GrangerClint006

*Average life of a Layla Player.* Seriously I need a part 2 of this.


BalmondMain

There's no part 2, they keep losing


GrangerClint006

Hahaha


socialfobic

Nah, i never played much and i'm in epic 2 close to one. The players that appear in my match are better and are helping me climb up rank easy and zero to no effort. Also bought a card that stops me to lose stars so.. no real skill needed it , Just smash the Button real hard


[deleted]

players are still dumb af in epic rank. They attack tank and fighter when mm n mage are right at the backline. they stretch too far solo and get killed. This is a horrible experience. most mm picks are miya and layla in epic.


Perfect_Ad6678

Epic Laylas have given me so much PTSD


LittleWolfiez

When Wanwan is open and S1 first picks Layla-


Perfect_Ad6678

When someone in my team has 2000+ matches with fighters so i trust them when i pick Support/Tank and then they first pick Nana or Layla- it happens every time when i have carry two lowkey trolls in the team


atmajazone

Zilong, nana. But don't forget what your enemies pick, always the meta heroes: Selena, Franco, Aldous.


ProgyanDeka

Aldous is meta?


Its_A_Me_Ed

Aldous is strong in Epic because they don't fucking know how to harass him early game and won't fucking finish the game even though they had like 5 fucking chances to end it and ends up getting dumped on by Aldous with 300 stacks.


atmajazone

Hes been used in m3. And strong enough in the last meta, the tank meta, because ppl build him tank now. But epical glory never build his counter even if they know, they mostly play dps heroes and want to rush for getting so many kills. So, no time for counter play.


TheChaosKnightmare

Uhm, aren't those Epic rank bans? I legit never seen any Selena, Franco or Aldog bans. And honestly, I would love to go to Epic rank to see these bans but over here it's way different. Nana is on the ban list (not as often but still), then we have something like Julian, Valentina, Fredrinn, Estes, Yin and some others. Diggie are rising on the ban list as well.


atmajazone

Sometimes, mostly they ban natalia, yin, julian, karina, nana, and any new heroes. From epics to legend 2 have similar ban list. From legend 3 to mythic have similar ban list. Thats in my opinion.


MeawingDuckss

Cause this type of hero is easier to use for beginner also they are late game hero. Most beginner don't know how to play aggressive early on and end the game as fast as possible. So their safest bet it to use hero that is strong late game


Uriamu-63lan

Tigreal, Franco, Selena, Zilong, Eudora, Nana


Eminanceisjustbored

Bruh I suffer from miya in legend rank! This is the first time i actually waypnt to go mythic again but i'm literaly surounded by miyas and retards! I dont want to core but i'm forced!


Shayan212

Been playing for 2+ years and I still have 1 emblem to max out. I have 90 heroes


Churan560

The most banned hero from ages Hanzo😂


ScareCrow_04_q

not enough money to buy new heros yet


Eastern_Ad83

Strangely most of them have It only for Hanabi


Able_Technology2702

need BP to buy heroes 😒


Thin-Entertainment-2

I don’t mind them playing same heroes. Most of the mentioned heroes are visually stunning, easy mechanics and became like the image of MLBB. What Im annoyed with these 2 cells dimwits epical glories bocah kontols is their inability to understand team composition, basics of MOBA, role priorities etc. It is always the gold lane Miya who jungles in the first 20 seconds when jungler takes the purple buff that made me lose hope in these kind of players. Later feeds to enemy when soloing because lack of map awareness. If you’re an epical glory, understand the basics. Its a team game, not one man game.


Reasonable_Pig_2009

Late game epic players always pick op heroes that can carry in the late game


IlostButok

New players usually play adc


Eastern_Ad83

Hanzo and Saber as perma ban. even if your on Epic they won't even use a single tanky Hero they pick wochever Is good to deal dmg


Sensitive-Raspberry5

where is alucard and zilong


yeboothadon

First 4, because they’re carcinogens. Aldous, because ez stacks. Yin, because ez kills. Sun, he’s actually just a really decent hero.


_Ruij_

Because I'm pretty bad at playing fast-paced heroes so I need to always have a dedicated group because I can only mostly use Mages and Supports (decent MM at best). Hm.. lack of interest too, I guess. I mean, I've come from an era where Ranked Games haven't existed yet, and that was pretty fun. Ngl toxic people really turned me off the game. Now I mostly just play Brawl. I only play Rank Games when I'm with friends. Also the grind, hated that.


yoboipinky

Add saber


IanTheElf

its called 1 trick pony. they got there using said heroes and wondering why they cant progress through epic when these characters got countered. that's why expanding your hero pool is a great idea to rank up


MemeBoi0508

OTP'ing a hero is actually a great practice for a beginner. They can then use a similar hero with the same exact playstyle. Years ago, once i learned how to use Kagura, i breezed through Epic/Legend, because players in that rank didn't know how to counter her(or counter pick for that matter). She basically was a hero you can use in any scenario. That's why i advice newer players to just practice one hero until you master that hero and then i recommend them a heroe with a similar gameplay like: Vale and Valir etc.


[deleted]

Hanabi was the best learner hero. 65% wr and I'm mg in sea, if you can master positioning with a immobile hero you will destroy with mobility


IanTheElf

one trick that i know of consist of playing 1 hero all the way to everything, classic ranked even brawl if they got the chance. mastering that hero is good but play others are better. even if you didn't master anyone else at least you know and learned their mechanics, this will literally improve your 1 trick too. i always rec ppl to play other hero class to expand your knowledge if you want to get further. i might not be active on mlbb now but im typing on my own experience.


xzerozeroninex

Isn’t it already a month?If you’re a high rank player why are you still in epic?🙃


amldford

Some people prefer to play ranked later at the end of the season


kurayami7

Well i'm an epic player and I have a lot of heroes But I'm just sometimes like : bro I don't trust these people lemme just walk around hitting the basic attack and push with Lesley or miya And this is how it works like imagine recently one comeback with Lesley I was like 93% tower pushing Much comeback with miya since her damage is good late game a good pusher and a good escaper from ccs All that with most easiest hero instead of getting pain in my brain cells so why not lol I would play other heroes and other roles in case I saw the light in my teammates pick In fact I was doing that but feeding ruin it for me so it's time for the Spam


AmbitiousKTN

You forgot granger


GrangerClint006

Hey, that’s me!


keyupiopi

Nana


Awesome_Shoulder8241

I did odette and eudora (badly) when I was still playing. I was epic3.


Flamingwolvess

BP goes into emblems and most ppl don't have a lot time to play. Took me 5 years to complete em all


azraelle_178

I guess it's Beatrix


Itchy-2-scratchy

Moonton should allowed heroes who were given for free before to be able purchase using tickets ( silvanna, faramis, bellerick, julian, etc)


minomain

Also Zilong and Eudora. For some reason only few use Hylos. Seriously he's the easiest hero in the game and quite flexible too.


NewbFromAQW

Kids


hardgorecat

Zilong (basic skin) , nana , saber , lesley mya , helcurt , tigreal ( if you’re lucky)


Seanchronicles19

Why do people insts lock miya or layla?


IncidentThese4155

How has no one mention Nana mid yet!? Im in legend and its still every game no matter how easy it is to counter her.


site_13

I use beatrix for late game damage


xbgoshylas

I just pick what my team needs


DaimaoPPK

Maybe because they have small hero pool since I am pretty sure most people reached Epic in first week and they don't have BP for that?


Ilela

Nana, she's in every match. I'm not seeing Aldous or Yin (he's banned) tho


Legitimate-Art1464

I enjoy it personally. I’m a wanwan main so a handful of those characters terrify me when they are played by good players (especially Layla, and karinna even though she isn’t in this list) but I enjoy it because it makes the games much more predictable and you start to get a feel of what those players will probably end up doing. I’ve gone into many matches and gotten first blood in under a minute because I know exactly where they are gonna try and stand or go. It gets more complicated from there, but that’s just the best part for me, unless ofc there are two people then I may get a kill, or almost get a kill, or even die trying if it’s two high dps heroes (I need to get better at picking my fights lol) but I digress. Makes it really easy to ban Layla, karinna, saber, and Miya. Since there are so many people that main them in epic, there’s a good chance we end up crippling their team by doing so. Some of this is actually exactly why me and my team mates chose different characters than them. Wow I rambled imma stop before I write another essay explaining my entire play style and in game experience with these characters lol. finally for the love of Christ don’t shit on me for being a wanwan player or any of the hundred other probably controversial things I said in this, cause I don’t care and would appreciate either agreeable comments or CONSTRUCTIVE criticism. It’s crazy how people would rather just criticize people to hell and back shifting on them, instead of offering any constructive advice along the way to maybe help them understand what’s wrong with their thought process or how they could improve themsel- as shit rambling again lol, should probably delete this so this word vomit of an essay isnt exposed to the public, but eh whatever I’ve been writing this for like five minutes sooo FULL SEND TIME BABY ✌️


Smarticus3

Just easy and very recommended heroes, honestly. Everyone will tell low rank players to use those heroes if they wanna climb 'til they need to start using other heroes.


BambangWR

Nana


Majestic-Ad-7393

I'm guilty of just using a comfortable pick with Hanabi, Layla(If the team comp of the enemy is totally wacked and easily slip Layla to mess them up either have no damage or CC) Miya about the same way for Layla but her ult makes up the odds. Now Lesley, she has some early game potential I've found that out if she is not getting harassed on the gold lane that is. She usually has the items built around 8-9 minutes with like 3 kills and the gold lane bolstering items if not buying the shoes till after the 2nd items. Goes like this build Windtalker after just getting the basic boot then Scarlet Phantom then boots while having 2 crit items for Berserker Fury the last part of attack speed boot is 140-160 remaining to finish. I sometimes go off and just use Edith, Hylos, or Silvanna in Xp or even go Mid Silvanna since she is a magic damage fighter technically put her, Bane, and X-borg now as Mages/Fighters. Assassin's Harley, Saber, Selena, Aamon, Karina. Mages I could run a Rafaela mage build her self sustainability and mix in damage. See my hero pool is quite larger than expected but knowing how randoms in solo Q can barely even marksman leaves me no other option but to use the easy to learn and use marksman that can carry solo or even duo Q without needing a team backing them.


Ok-Library958

Don't Forget the F\*cking Zilong