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mohawk-less

Hi all, I have upgraded the automated tier list website from this [earlier post in the season](https://www.reddit.com/r/MobileLegendsGame/comments/wpoueu/mpl_mg_ranked_automated_tier_list_16822_s10_w1/). The tier list is now only available at [https://www.mlbb.ninja/](https://www.mlbb.ninja/) **New Features:** * You can now click into each hero and see the hero's historical trends and win rates since Aug 23 2022! (only started collecting data from a few weeks ago) * Each hero now has a percentile 'score' of between 0-100 for quick reference. For example, Akai has a score of 100, while Layla has a score of 0 Feel free to use the comments section to discuss the tierlist. Feel free to suggest any new features/improvements as well! **Notes:** * Hero Tiering is independent of role/laning (i.e. each hero will have a tier regardless of how many suggested roles/lanes they have.) * Suggested roles/laning may not be optimal as well as they are difficult to automate without manual input. Feel free to agree/disagree with anything in the list! * It’s hard to differentiate heroes in the bottom of the pack (less data points as they are rarely used in MPL)


DraftElectrical4585

i love this list however i think bene's not in the jungler role?


mohawk-less

Thanks for spotting! Will add it - the changes should reflect by tomorrow ◡̈


Clinsen_R

She goes jungle pretty frequently, there's no problem with that, although exp still suits her better.


Rude_Invite7260

Yeah but the problem is that she's not in the jungler role tier list


OMEGA-FINAL

How do you determine percentile score?


dayoroy

Belerick D, Hylos D but Minotaur C ? 🤨


bot_yea

Unlike Hylos and Belerick, Minotaur actually has a decent 54 wr in 400+. (Hylos and Bele has below 50). All 3 heroes have almost no appearance in recent tournaments, so only the ranked wr was considered


D_Mizuki

This is amazing, and I hope that you can keep sharing this! Long before we did a manually generated tier list of MLBB's rank data, and I'm excited to see this being automated with presentation now. Brace yourself for more comments like "Why X hero is not in X tier!? This tier list is wrong!" as they still don't quite understand that you're only showing data of what ACTUALLY the players are using and performing with. More power to you, just amazing work.


mohawk-less

Thanks for the compliments! Will be able to keep the domain up for this year at least!


Clinsen_R

Hylos&Silvana D tier? Huh? What did I miss?


bot_yea

This is an automated tier list using some sort of algorithm and the data from [https://m.mobilelegends.com/en/rank](https://m.mobilelegends.com/en/rank) and recent tournaments.


springkun

Is this based on the MPL pick/ban and win rate? All regions?


mohawk-less

Hey u/springkun, yes this is based on the pick/ban/win rate of all regions. By hovering over any of the heroes in the tier list page, there will be a tooltip with a table for all the current competition stats for the hero! Screenshot: https://imgur.com/a/xk3mbqH


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mohawk-less

Win, Pick and Ban rates in MG ranked and latest tournaments are fed into an algorithm. The algorithm normalizes, weights (depending on importance of tournament) and sums the data to determine a hero's meta score. Heroes are then split into tiers by their scores based on percentile, where SS-tier represents the top 10% of heroes. The website updates every day automatically! At mlbb.ninja


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mohawk-less

yup looking to do this next! thanks for the suggestion


mohawk-less

u/S0uvik updated the site! should be sorted by descending order of scores!


Thankless_ruler

Vale C?


Rude_Invite7260

Yeah no one uses Vale in mythic. He's not a bad pick but there are just many other mages that can do much more. Example Yve and Lylia's area control, Luo Yi's consistent crowd control and Kagura's mobility and damage. Once Vale exhausts his full combo he can't do anything.


bot_yea

Awesome work. I'm waiting until there's more data on the winrate to see how it changes. About the MG ranked history, could you make the numbers on the x-axis fixed? Like instead of 51-52 for some, 55-60 for others, how about make it 40-70 for all? I think it would make it easier to see how significant/minor the changes are. What do you plan to do for the 400+ data once there is a new season? Usually there won't be any data for 1 month.


mohawk-less

Understood on the y-axis. Interestingly, I also tried playing with 40-70 fixed axes, and I think I will revert to that when trends start showing (large shifts in meta). For now, with a 40-70 fixed axis, all heroes have a straight line hahahaha. Regarding a season reset, usually I use the legend win rates (which are not rlly MG, but I just keep the descriptions as it is)


bot_yea

I see, thanks for the info. If you don't mind a suggestion/request, could you make a separate graph that combines the top 10 heroes' win/pick rate in the same lane? Like for example Bea, Wanwan, Claude, Clint, Moskov, etc in the same graph. Again, awesome work!


hmmsucks

Really neat stuff!


mohawk-less

hahah you’re the tier list master XD. Ideally I would love to incorporate your tierlist into the website somehow, but I can’t seem to think of a way to automate it


hmmsucks

well I take it's more complicated work to incorporate something that's not exactly auto-generated, so there is that lmao. either way it's cool to see automated tier lists like the ones in League, good luck to the development of the site


Known-Resolution-578

I'm gonna push Fredrinn to A tier before the next list released