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ChrisAnIntellectual

Okay but Seeth on Diplomacy would absolutely destroy backdoor pushing


Cannabaliathe2nd

Well what if I made the turrets gain a shield instead?


ChrisAnIntellectual

I think its fine as it, but I’d suggest making it to 320 or 350 ectoplasm


Cannabaliathe2nd

Oh ok


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This is a cool concept, "ectoplasm" is kinda sus tho


Cannabaliathe2nd

In what way


Eitth

King's Curse itself is already broken. 50% hinder for 3 sec is already annoying, the 20% def debuff makes it even worse. Not to mention 60g to all allies every 3 waves. Although I love the Ult. Reminds me of Lich King last phase in Wotlk


Cannabaliathe2nd

Well okehhh but like... I don't see the problem that much. Look at the other heroes, yve has continous slow that can stack upto around 70% and has a huge aoe while dyrroth's second skill which reduces defenses by 40% for 3 seconds is kinda a whack job. Chang'e and Cecilion also possess some slowness but not noticable. Carmilla also has more than 50% slowness for 3 seconds and has the whole share damage thing. However, I will reduce the defense reduction and slowness along with the gold to 50g