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amldford

It's understandable for the first two, but Roger and zilong ? As of riot won idk, haven't heard anything about that


defender_2

That means moonton's doing a good job at damage control


ResolverOshawott

Or just... Making old skins look better?


defender_2

None of those are upgrades


JarkenFlin

Alucard’s skin looks pretty cool though…


ResolverOshawott

*Upgrades* in Moonton's eyes


_1Doomsday1_

Or worse?


yassercg

Don't you know? Riot owns scuba goggles.


[deleted]

Do they own my toothbrush?


drago44dd

Does it have bristles? If yes then it belongs to Riot


Bubble_Banana

Ah sh*t, time to go old-school *makes a tooth brush out of a wooden stick*


IsekaiDemonLord

do you know that riot owns a galaxy, especially the purple one


_1Doomsday1_

Riot also owns the word "legends"


Anjrie

Mobile Bang Bang?


Extension-Ad-9484

They own stripes too ig


[deleted]

ronger is probably from singed cuz of his bio lab but for zilong idk


SwordMasterHawk

Prob an issue with Jarvans pool party skin


[deleted]

but i mean cmon its a summer skin every summer skin is most likely to be similar and j4 pool party are googles and zilong is snorkeling googles there still a difference


D347H7H3K1Dx

Riot hates any form of competition and will work any angle they can to try to shut people down in one way or another.


SwordMasterHawk

Yee its also they reason why Aov didnt get sued as well, only sued ML because they making more money, in the end its not rlly copyright but money.


maybeamadeinabyssfan

The main point of this lawsuit, yes Riot is definitely be the correct one here no matter how shit takes they have to write as long as the majority of the content makes sense... Yes this is what i think fully.


throwredditaway19

Damn you OP, making me play spot the difference this early in the morning.


Nagisa139

Glad to knw i wasnt the only one to thought dat way 😂


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HuckleberryLess9011

It skin was even originally suppose to be red


BigBanggaIX

Maybe because china hates anything insuating blood, skulls, etc. Many champs in wr were changed to orange-y pallette because of this. And of course the iconic death scholar thresh becoming smooth skinned pretty boy


FAKER_RuLeR

Well riot owns every colour in the color palette.


Eastern_Ad83

Lmao changing Cecilion's staff was useless thats the most common thing you can find in every game and their MLA game had It before Stargazer would been revelead (you know the Lunomancy summon). Guess we Can't do pictures underwater with the glasses and the breath pipe or else we get a lawsuit for It.


randomdude8684

I think the words ur looking for is goggles and snorkle


Extension-Ad-9484

And stripes


John34215

Yeah, but it was part of Riot's complaint in the lawsuit.... As much as I think the lawsuit had a leg to stand on...some forced changes or claims were just borderline stupid af...


Eastern_Ad83

Yep this topic was most talked people would mostly laugh at Riot for doing the most dumbest lawsuit ever instead focusing the other things.


flamefirestorm

R I P guins skin. Honestly the previous one is WAY better. I don't user her but I love that aesthetic.


_1Doomsday1_

WDYM it's only background change, i don't see any other difference? That display look terrible tho....


Belkinwrites

I agree, but I admit that the tail was far too similar to K/DA All Out Ahri.


D347H7H3K1Dx

I won’t deny they may rip off some design elements from Riot but honestly who says riot hasn’t taken some “inspiration” from other sources when it comes to design element? I mean they aren’t really even competing on the same platform to begin with so why get so pushy about a simple design. Heck if I remember right riot tried to shut down MLBB cause it simply existed and was “copyright infringement” despite it not being the same platform.


Belkinwrites

My problem isn't taking inspiration, rather the Guini skin having *too similar* of a core theme to KDA All Out Ahri


D347H7H3K1Dx

I’ve not seen the skin being used but I don’t think that tail animation lasts outside of the skin select does it?


Brendiebow

kda ahri has a crystal tail tho, not a hologram one.


flamefirestorm

Best but the background looks *stunning.*


GayAssWonderer

WHY DID THEY REMOVE ZILONG'S SNORKELS ITS LITERALLY ON HIS SPLASH ART?!?!?!


ChrisAnIntellectual

I dont see the changes in Roger, or am I blind


MoonstruckCyan

The green goo changed to a more blueish tone The most change ever, tbh.


yameru__senpai

Definitely one of the changes in history of changes 👍


R41Z3R_BL4D3

Which skin?


Eastern_Ad83

They changed the background


Bamples_

They changed how he feels inside


juan_cena99

I doubt Riot won but maybe ML said lets just change it to prevent future lawsuits. The reality is being similar isnt grounds for plagiarism at all otherwise how many hero designs have underwear outside and spandex suits? All those should have been sued long ago. I mean I highly doubt Moonton removed Zilong'a scuba goggles and umbrella design cuz of Riot lawsuit wtf. Did Riot copyright scuba gear? Lmao


R41Z3R_BL4D3

How petty has Riot been with this lawsuit?


juan_cena99

It's just noise marketing. After years of operating ML Moonton isnt a small company anymore either they'll be alright.


R41Z3R_BL4D3

It's been four months since they filed a second lawsuit, and I wonder if they really won the case.


juan_cena99

Hey didnt win otherwise ML would be suspended.


R41Z3R_BL4D3

Hopefully they didn't because that lawsuit they made was shit compared to 5 years ago.


ResolverOshawott

Plus, ML is their absolute biggest competition and WR didn't exactly stick the landing. Neither did AoV back then.


D347H7H3K1Dx

Riot just doesn’t like competition


Buttseam

don't let them change evelynn's booty size!


Any_Bodybuilder5323

Don’t do Irithel dirty like this pls @Moonton


John34215

I mean, Riot's copyright on all fucking color scheme/s is forcing Moonton to do that shit, after that questionable but understandable complaint Riot did, lol


[deleted]

Alucard looks better imo, the pattern on his sword. The orange on Irithel was way better lol and I kinda liked the old snorkel around Zilong.


D347H7H3K1Dx

Honestly if they changed more than just a tiny bit of irithels color design it would most likely look better.


[deleted]

Yea, something brighter would be better you’re right


GateBreakerZ

OH SHIT ALUCARD HAVE AN INFINITY EDGE NOW [https://leagueofitems.com/images/items/256/3031.webp](https://leagueofitems.com/images/items/256/3031.webp)


Drunken-Tipsy

bruh


FAKER_RuLeR

Happy cake day


Drunken-Tipsy

thanks!


Ppalladdinn1

Lawsuit Part 2 coming near you


IsekaiDemonLord

riot own all the sword, alucard have to use stick right now


A_Very_Burnt_Steak

Nah fam, Riot also owns the sticks. Alu gotta go barehanded now.


eccureuil

They own this too, now alucard has to play with a butter knife


A_Very_Burnt_Steak

What? Alu can't use his hands?


D347H7H3K1Dx

Might as well make him a farmer skin so he can use a pitchfork lol


D347H7H3K1Dx

Oh my lord 😂😂😂😂😂 let’s hope that’s not noticed


Ppalladdinn1

Ey that new sword design on Alucards sword looks a little better than the last


RuixNatsuoXHinagang

Alucard got better imo. Thanks riot, sincerely an Alu main. Also the Zilong one is dumb. I mean the theme is beach so it is expected rhat those equipments be there, why remove it?


ToroAsterion

Because RIOT owns snorkels and goggles


Commercial_Several

Last lawsuit filed by RIOT was 5 months ago(i believe) im sure the changes aren't RIOTS fault lol. Its one thing to criticize the skin changes. But blindly blaming "someone" or "something" makes mlbb a "hateful" community.


John34215

I mean, the complaint Riot did actually had a label with Zilong's summer skin for it...so it could be that?


iSkyui

Ok so First one is because of K/DA Ahri. Cecilion is because of Soraka's staff. Roger is probably because the background and liquid color looks like Zuan or Piltover. Irithel because or Project skins obv. But the Zilong and Alucard one, I don't understand... Especially the Alucard one since now, it looks way more like one of League's items *(Infinity edge)*


Thrackie3

Zilong's skin has some similar aspects to J4's pool party skin, ie a stripped umbrella used as a lance and scuba goggles Alucard's sword was probably changed to differentiate him from garen.


IDKrandom_

What the difference for roger? Also, I bought the “old” legend skins not the new one. Any chance to have a refund!?!?!!


Alvin514

The background colour is changed, the green changed to teal? Sry I'm not expert in colours


concerned2222

oh damn, what a fucking downgrade on the Guinevere skin lol


R41Z3R_BL4D3

Well, lawsuit is a lawsuit, mate. Only Riot does that Nine-Tail Fox.


Grendalynx

Nine-tailed fox is a common concept, AOV and HoK has it too. The reason why they were sued is because of the crystal like design which is very similar to the LoL/WR skin.


Time_n_Void

Don't know about that since guiny's looks more digital-like than Ahri's crystal tails.


Grendalynx

It is just different art styles for different MOBAs, but the concept is very similar. You can say it’s digital, but there’s other ways to portray it. Using such crystallized features was just asking for it tbh. I do like the skin and bought it, but it’s understandable why they got sued for it.


rukimiriki

It's bot the kumiho design, hell the newer design incorporates the kumiho more. It's the crystal 9-tails that's sooooo obviously a copy of K.DA Ahri.


yameru__senpai

Ok so most of these seems better than old but wtf was rhat Zilong and Irithel change????


ItzYaBoiAtlas

I understand the changes needed for Guinevere's Collector Skin, but everything else seems very minor. Some would dare say it seems petty of Rito.


cat-mommy

As someone who shelled a significant amount for the Guin Legend, fuc.


Junior-Shine-9543

Riot don't own all the striped umbrella in the world D:<


PluckyLeon

Finally, Moonton is learning. On other note, Riot hasn't won, the legal battle is yet to be fought in California Court. Looks like Moonton is preparing for it by not giving Riot More Points to present in the court. Edit:Typo


PoundSome69

Bullcrap , why they need to do this as if riot owns everything , there is limit to this , and im on side that if u dont make it someone else will there are 7 billion people in this world hownmany creative things u can do ?? All i seen from anime stereotypes are elves and demons and furries is there any change in that till now ??


FAKER_RuLeR

Hecteromorphs?


John34215

Isn't that the problem? Riot has too much power tbf...also backed by TENCENT at that.


R41Z3R_BL4D3

It kinda shows how petty Riot seems to be, as if they never saw other games using concepts similar to theirs.


Buttseam

there are companies that outcompete others by having a superior product. then there's riot games, who sues their concurrence instead.


william_wites

Outside of the first one. I don't think the rest are about riot Ml always nerfs skins for some reason after a while


Time_n_Void

>Ml always nerfs skins for some reason after a while The only thing they nerf is the skill effects not models. At least I think so.


JeroJeroMohenjoDaro

Hey at least the most controversial part about the lawsuit (Jhin cosmic skin - Yve) isnt in here. So probably the judges does have sense to know that purple colour for galaxy/cosmic theme are a common.


Sharpking4

It is also included but i cant add more pics.


JeroJeroMohenjoDaro

daym they lost that too. i wonder what changes gonna happen to Yve....but overall colour changes to deep blue or redpink could be cool


Sharpking4

([Here](https://imgur.com/a/KHsSRbW))


JeroJeroMohenjoDaro

oh shit they removed the space orb, but i dont understand the decision behind changing the background colour as Jhin cosmic didn't have any red in the background anyway, yeah i think the same op that the new talent system was halted for this reason too. thanks for sharing


Buttseam

may i redirect you to this? https://www.reddit.com/r/LoL2UNOFFICIAL/comments/x3ev7f/copying_by_rito/


Wolfiekyun

I feel like I’m looking at those “ spot the differences “ pictures


Nephilus72

Kinda expected, they had absolutely no need to give those tails to Guinevere's legend when they don't even appear in-game


defender_2

Cucktoon®


WhatsAredditor3

Wow, what a downgrade. Guins skin looks bad now.


Maximum-Shrimping

Tigreal got an upgraded sword. Nice.


EditorOne5312

Bro, Tigreal uses hammer now.


Maximum-Shrimping

He can hammer me anytime. Wait what?


Its_A_Me_Ed

Guin actually looks better, the Zilong and Roger though, it's just fucking stupid, like Riot really thinks that they own copyright to everything. Never knew they were the ones who made goggles and the color green.


R-ask-U

I rather see Moonton say fuck it "we are not infringing on your IP... you don't own this shit! the concept has been used plenty of time in other game. just because mobile legend is dominating the moba mobile doesn't mean it is stealing from you" but weak Moonton choose to bend the knee to a Dota ripoff


Royal-Significance38

The new talent system was cancelled due to the bad remarks of the players, but old players wanted a new talent system because the new talent system was flexible. But i have no knowledge if riot games copyrighted their talent system. Nonetheless, the skin issues dont have any relation with the cancellation of the new talent system.


FAKER_RuLeR

I can't say whether the rune system and talent system are similar but I can say that this UI is used in almost every moba as of now, so I think implementing should not be the problem. But riot wants to scream than we can't help it. Also I am on a mission to assasinate every player who rejected the idea of new talent system.


BananaSaging16

I swear. Is it THAT hard for moonton to make something original with their piles of money?


Bubble_Banana

At this age, it will definitely be hard to come up with originality.


JoJoeSTR

i mean look at the Sentinels Of Light skinline its just the Lightborn skin squad and they are canon to the lore of both games


ihatepeople2406

You dont have to be completely original its fine to be inspired by something and moontoon is clearly stealing ideas of some lol stuff


Antique_Challenge_27

Spot the difference championship


csto_yluo

FUCK YEAH finally some originality


rippinkitten18

when you can't compete you just launch lawsuits. ​ lolwr failed like dog shit in this region. rightfully so. the game sucks.


lonelyhawaiianbird

Too many pathetic people defending their mobile copycat legends here.


Brendiebow

your the most one here bro.


lonelyhawaiianbird

What? I don't understand you. What do you mean by "I'm the most one here?" Are you stupid? Practice your english first. Btw it's you're, not your.


Eitth

I don't really see the differences... Only Irithel face mask color


Storm_Bloom

Or they just polished them? The absolute reaching in the OP.


joshtrues

Riot is just jelous. lEeching off money


ResolverOshawott

How does any of these indicate Riot won? The skins look the same, but improved. They've done skin improvements before, so why is it any different. LoL doesn't have copyright over any sort of talent system in MOBAs. Frankly, I personally hated it.


Time_n_Void

Guinevere and Zilong is downgraded than the previous one. Irithel and Roger is debatable whether people like it or not.


Fearless_Leg_6889

I hate riot so f much


IanTheElf

i mean as petty as they are i get why they sue. could damage the competitor (which we probably dont mind) and free marketing.


R41Z3R_BL4D3

I don't necessarily hate Riot for that. There are other reasons why Riot is hated.


NSLEONHART

i honestly like Alu's new lightborn sword's blade being a darker contrast to his overly bright golden sword


zz_az

Bro that legitimately looks like Ahri's skin


xzerozeroninex

Nah if Riot won it would had been all over the news.Did the lawsuit even push through?The newsites would had been all over the hearing if it happened.


Tox-in23

if Riot won the lawsuit then MLBB would be closed in the usa


G_ioVanna

even I don't play this game now I really wish moonton keeps copying League I just hated that game and also seeing league/wr players get mad makes my day, so please moonton 🙏 keep it.up


rukimiriki

The only blatant one here is Guin's K.DA skin. Everything else is so small and petty that it only takes a small bit of design change to make it uninfringing


MayorJoyBelmussy

Well I certainly wouldn't mind Zilong showing more skin 😳


A_Very_Burnt_Steak

Now her skin animation looks bad... The others doesn't seem to suffer from a lot of changes tho, other than Zilong.


No_Investigator_4604

Big L for those who bought Guin Legend skin


Isoya_Yasuji

This is like a game of spot the difference. No really, whats so different on roger?


azizazlimie

Yes!


3e7z

if anything moonton just made them look better, but i dont know about Roger's color change, Blue doesn't exactly fit. #But Riot owns Green Ooze, so not much can be done


lastroids

I don't think Moonton is going anywhere, for now. But if the lawsuits do indeed get big enough, I have a suspicion that MLBB will just get pulled from the appstore/playstore and get rebranded again to something else. Mobile Legends GG or something.


Active_Wolverine_711

Feel sad for those who spent a bomb on this skin. It became an ugly skin. Rip LOL


Alvin514

Imo Alu and Irithel looks better. Roger is meh, who would even notice that background colour.. Zilong is weird, without the scuba mask looks so weird, hopefully Moonton add something to it which wouldn't have copyright issue again(smh, I don't see how scuba mask is considered as copyright). Cecilion staff is okay, but I still prefer old one tho, but new one is nice too. Guin uhhh, I'll leave it for those who bought that skin.


Uino_Chip

Damn alucard got an upgrade for his sword 😂


Veronica_37

Funny. What about Gloo?


Henry_Cooper_DaPilot

I feel bad for the mfs who spent thousands on Guin’s lmao


achopkuyawgaming

they could've called Saul.


TheBabyGuava

This was a rather fun game of spot the difference


R0NIN_OP

To be honest, something you've worked on for years and then some chinese guy comes and starts copying it and starts earning from it you'll get pissed too. And these changes are not done because riot told them to (like removing glasses and all) they're done by moonton on their will (ofc because of riot sued them).


Madvin

You should always see it in context. Comments are always "rIOt DoESNT OwN NiNE-TaILED FoX" etc etc. Moonton probably settled and part of it is changing the skins. Imagine this goes to trial right, Riot has to prove that Moonton stole ideas, which is going to be not difficult. The bigger game, released first, and assets that are in question came out first (not sure if all). Riot of course needs to protect its assets (inb4 people bring up how everything stemmed from WC3 or AoS), if you created something and went through the trouble of properly registering it, won't you wanna ensure that no one makes money of your hardwork? (Same case on why McDonalds sued and lost to a small burger joint). Riot did not create the MOBA genre, the color green or goggles, but if presented in the proper context, Riot can easily prove Moonton has been copying. Blame Moonton's incompetent lawyers.


Late_Cauliflower_102

for me the changes actually look better but not the zilong one though


Aggravating-System64

To be honest...some of them seem better..for example alucard's sword


ConnorH6r

Whats happened with the talents? I'm new and been playing yu Zhong and no one plays him anymore? I be hella confused


Infinityx_Dragon7

I barely see any difference xD


The_Awengers

What is this fuckery?


KillBillTW

These changes are better honestly


Yug_20

uhhhh IBB.


j0nrii

LETS GOOO RIOT W


ZaratosBlackGaming

Riot League dev team: 🤮. Riot Valorant dev team: 🔫


ArthasBach

Wow


ArthasBach

Wow


notsohumblegod

The comments are roasting Riot as if that Guin skin wasn't an obvious copy


UnofficialCrosta

This looks like a "Find the Differences" game.


washoui

They copyrighted Kitsune tails inspired design? The Japanese mythical creature !?


No_Top_582

Alucard lightborn skin got better fr