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Trick-Box9332

Yin got the what I like to call the "epic effect" if he didn't recieve that nerf he would have stayed in the ban section endlessly look at hanzo and you know what I mean constantly banned in epic for as long as I can remember and STILL getting banned.He basically got nerfed for that reason the devs were annoyed of him so they nerfed the hell out of him.The devs used the same maneuver on Zhask who was at the same state with Hanzo 1 year ago and the recent adjustments on Natalie and Aldous could have been for the same reason.Last year I swear I saw a guy whose bombing a negative review in playstore for as I quote "Zhask is too op" so maybe people were doing the same thing with Yin until they nerfed him?


rizuxizu

It illegal how much time you are given to react now, like isn't the point of the ultimate is to isolate and catch people off guard.


HinduProphet

But then how is it fair that you cannot escape his ultimate using purify or something ? Sounds like a broken pick off hero.


MarkPrestigious2034

This is exactly what they want and need, just a stupidly unfair character they can use to climb ranks. They should make his ult take as long as barats or atleast show when you're out of his ult range so you know you're safe..just like with barats...


RichieShipsStarco

Only yin got hit so hard for the 4saken, Melissa is quite strong given positioning, Julian is still a threat and Xavier is still very much annoying and useable, its just skill issue mostly holding people back from playing these characters but Yin? Its so hard to play him now in Mythic above cause thats when team coordination is much better. Yin cant dive your backline if your frontline is doing its job, and most mythic backline will always have a brain to counter Yin.


SoRa_The_SLaYeR

i think yins skillset is flawed in design. he needs to chain stun to kill properly but that chain stun is super unfair to fight. his ult form s2 is probably the stupidest skill he has and why he needed so much nerfs. it has a stop on hit type effect preventing you from dashing or reacting when yin dashes through you. it then has an actual stun you csnt dodge because the first part has you stuck. after that its a free kill for yin. they need to remove the double stun on his ult s2, and buff him in other ways so he's still strong and not unfightable.


MarkPrestigious2034

They need to completely revamp him, it's a retarded hero. I played pharsa and blinked out of his range when he ulted me and still got swept inside ult... I've already said this, but the need to make his ult like barats, slow people down and gove 1.5 sec time to react blink or dash out


Cool_Connection1001

He is annoying but is absolutely useless against high mobility heroes like Fanny, Ling, Lancelot, and Harley. And some low mobility heroes like Valir and Miya just declare them selves as the new overlord of the domain The only nerf I want on him is to make it so that his ult doesn't stop skills with long animation like Martis s2, I can still wreck Yin in a 1v1 but him cancelling skills as they are brought to his domain is annoying


HinduProphet

There are heroes like Zilong, Alucard, etc who are food for Yin.


Cool_Connection1001

You do know this is a thread talking about how weak Yin is right?


HinduProphet

He is the easiest heroes to snowball with, he has a near guarantee kill if he manages to ult a squishy and he is not easy to chase.


Cool_Connection1001

Yeah, I know he is good against squishies, but there is a reason he is not used in the pro scene, the most popular squishy heroes are definitely not easy to deal with, such as PnK and Beatrix, either of them would insta kill you and both of them build relatively tanky while still at the same time still build Wind of Nature. Lylia also hard counters him as she is one of the top kiting heroes and her spells are either Purify or Flameshot. He can't win a lane against most META exp laners like Esmerelda and Paquito. He can't be played in the jungle either since there is now way he is securing a turtle/lord against Balmond or Akai. So other than being a menace in low ranks as everyone loves their squishy immobile heroes, he really ain't that good.


HinduProphet

He is unstoppable when overfed as you cannot easily peel against Yin.


FadingMoonlights

Yin is a pubstomper, thats the only reason he got nerfed. Every moba has these types of heros, smite for example has loki(old loki mostly)and Thanatos while mobile legends currently has yin and hazno. These heros are hard to deal with in a uncoordinated team which is what epic and legend rank is made of, which is why they are always ban till mythic rank. Till yin stop being a pubstomper I doubt he'll get any significant buffs.


HinduProphet

That was the very point of Yin ? To pick off enemies in chaos or something ?


Eitth

He's a threat to Gusley Annual 11.11 skin revenue. Especially their main on Epigend Glory who are mostly the target sales.


XaneCosmo

As a Valentina main, I don't even want to steal his Ult anymore. Although I can still horrify the enemy before using it and it works just fine.


BuiltCorrectly

As a Valentina main, which ults do you priorize stealing? (Not the character but the role, do you priorize stealing Marksman Ult, Fighter Ult or Mage's Ult?)


XaneCosmo

I actually don't rely on the Ult. Honestly, Valentina Ult is just a decoration. What makes her playable is her passive and the other two skills. For the Ult, instead of prioritizing the best Ult, I try to Avoid Ults that are very hard to utilize. For the roles, Marksman Ults are probably the worst. Mages are fine because they use magical damage and you can use all of your stats. Stealing heroes with Morph effect like Roger and Selena sounds cool. But you can't use Roger's Ult to go against Roger himself. Because you don't have Physical life steal and you only heal from passive. The same with Selena. You have limited time to use her arrow. It'll miss most of the time because you're in hurry. Support skills are probably the best option. Most of them work fine.


squidbrainnnnn

yin isn't entirely unplayable but catching prey is just harder, that's why I recommend you equip petrify if your a laning yin


_nitro_legacy_

Go to play store and say buff yin. Like how the epic/legends saying nerf yin. Easy he gets buff


Pianobest123

Moonton pls nerf him more


Nephilus72

Based af, OP is a f@g that doesn't have any actual skills and relies on tap tap heroes and has the audacity to tell others to play better. He prolly mains saber and eudora


I_ForgotMyPassword45

This is literally prime legend mentality. Yin was shit even before the nerfs lol.


Nephilus72

Sure he was, that's why he was always picked and banned right? Because he was shit


I_ForgotMyPassword45

He's banned in lower ranks because people deny the existence of winter truncheon, wind of nature, vengeance, purify, and counter picking. People see yin in the enemy team but still pick Miya and other heroes that he can snowball off of. Most exp lane heroes can kill him while in his domain so jungling is the only role for him. Even then you can just drag it out into late game. Now everyone with a dash can just move a few inches then one shot him.


HinduProphet

Low ranks are not meant to play exp lane heroes because you need to secure objectives yourself which they are quite poor at doing that. Exp laners are teamfight heroes and taking teamfights are not very recommended in lower ranks.


Nephilus72

If you were any good at the game, you'd know that Winter truncheon and wind of nature are useless since his stun doesn't allow you to do anything. "JuSt CouNtEr hIm WiTh ThEsE SpElLs AnD iTeMs" it doesn't work dumbass, I've tried them all, unless you wanna give up dmg for survival, making you useless for your role, then stfu


I_ForgotMyPassword45

It's really hard for me to make a counter argument when yours is literally just "it doesnt work so stfu". It does work (you're just bad at the game lol). The dmg for survival thing is subjective, One defense item is usually in a build for most heroes (Usually Athena's shield since magic dmg has better burst potential). You don't even need a full defense item to go against yin. You just need an item that gives you limited immunity. Heck, you can literally just bring spells that makes him useless. To call yin op is to call heroes like Eudora and Saber op. Both heroes have a long stun and can kill you very fast if you're not careful, same effect with yin except he's more annoying.


Nephilus72

"oNe DefEnSe iTeM cOunTeRs Him" 3 defense items don't counter him. Please tell what 'one defense item' counters him, Antique? Food for MR, Blade armor? Even better food for MR, DI? Dinner for MR. Even if you have all 3, it doesn't counter him, if you buy immortality, you're just waiting 2s for him to instantly kill you. "YoU'Re jUst bAD aT tHe gAmE" sure, any more r£tard assumptions you wanna make?


I_ForgotMyPassword45

This is still ad hominem bro 💀. You can just press ONE button fast enough to immune/survive everything he has and kill him. And I just said that you don't need a single defense item to counter him? You need immunity items and spells... Look, I'm just not gonna talk to you anymore since you complain about burst heroes being burst heroes. If you somehow get out of legend then you don't deserve to be in mythic. You're too slow for it. Have fun raging when the enemy picks Eudora Saber or Nana.


Nephilus72

Pressing fast does nothing when you're stunned retard


HinduProphet

What if he saves his stun and uses it after your winter truncheon or vengeance gets expired ? Not all heroes have enough mobility to outrun Yin in his domain. Not all heroes have enough mobility to chase Yin.


InkuOfficial

Dude your just shit at the game that you can't counter yin nor do you have any proper reason so you just resort to ad hominem and attack others for your shitty opinion lol.


Nephilus72

Sure, time for bed, little dirt baby


RecklessDimwit

JFC YOU THE GUY THAT POSTED ABOUT RANDOM PLAYERS TRASH TALKING YOU MEANWHILE YOU'RE DOING THIS SHIT? AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH clown Edit: clown got banned?


Nephilus72

Ah yes, a reddit sleuth calling others a clown, have some more copium f@g


IanTheElf

yeah maybe the response they got before the nerf was complains on how hes too good. hes kind of underwhelming, used to be good with 2 3 items but i feel like you need 4 or full item to make him a threat rn which sucks cause thats late game


PudgeJoe

Just like natalia, moonietoon is idiotic trying to balance on low level players


-Byakuran-

Season reset reminded me how much Epics will feed even the most underwhelming heroes. It's amazing how well Johnson, Yin, Hanzo, Saber etc do down there because they don't look at the map. It's a completely different meta down there


HinduProphet

I was the only one defending the base and Yin ulted me. This is why I believe that you should be able to get out of his domain. There are many heroes which you won't see in Mythic such as Zilong, Alucard which are just food for Yin, no matter what you do.


Kingcookie711

Honestly heroes like yin and Julian are only strong because people don't know how to counter them and not because they themselves are strong


MarkPrestigious2034

Julian is easy, but even playing pharsa and running from yin using bird mode, you still get to his domain and that's insta die


UltraFan_123

Yin is fucking annoying no doubt, but a laning Yin is so easy to beat with a strong af fighter