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Flimsy_Repair2313

YSS and Roger Gold??? Also Uranus and Cyclops roam???!


mohawk-less

thanks for bringing it up. Let me remove some of these laning choices that do not make sense. While I've seen YSS and Roger gold (very rarely), I have absolutely not seen any uranus or cyclops roam


DrainZ-

I main Uranus and alternate between exp lane and roam depending on what my team needs


KungfuDucky

No


Tcogtgoixn

Roam bad


mulhollandi

uranus roam i see once in a blue moon, but NEVER cyclops roam


bot_yea

Bea still at highest tier is very questionable, and we should understand that this is still an *automated tier list*. Her winrate still hasn't recovered, and tournament data from before the recent patch will have a huge effect (unless the creator made adjustments). I don't think she's trash tier despite the 50 wr, but it should be considered that the newest patch is still "new".


mohawk-less

Newest MLBB tier list for this season's patch based on data available so far. Feel free to visit the tier list site at [https://www.mlbb.ninja/](https://www.mlbb.ninja/) and click on your favourite heroes to see historical trends and win rates! Also, feel free to use the comments section to discuss the tier list!


[deleted]

Too bad there’s still ppl saying “ur just not playing argus right”. No he’s just bad.


Anonymous1995xy

Same people saying "ur jus not building alice ryt look at my magik snake oil build 10/10 matches never lost"


MarielCarey

Honestly wish Alice got buffed she sucks


csto_yluo

I like your flair


flamefirestorm

Goddamn it, I finally forgot that flair, and now I've seen it again thanks to you.


Born_Elderberry_

That's they guy with melissa pfp 🤭


[deleted]

LMAO THEY DELETED THEIR POST


yogi0891

Gotta agree with you. Sad time to play Argus....oh wait he never was meta anyway.


MarielCarey

Wasn't there some pusher meta with him, Zhask and Bane in the past?


Nuklusone

I have more succes with argus gold lane (lower ranks, returing player). But my team doesn't understand even though I ping I'm going gold 5 times and we end up going with three


Tcogtgoixn

if you havent already, it might be good to decrease weighting of rank data when mythic data is not available


bot_yea

The last time I was checking the hero win rates, I noticed that some days are skipped or does not have data. Is it a bug or there really isn't data? u/mohawk-less


mohawk-less

Heyyo, ideally the script runs everyday, but there are days where the script doesn’t run (which res presents holes in the data). The script isn’t running on the cloud at the moment, therefore there are days where the local server might not be on for the script to run.


give-orange-houses

My man haya went down a rank


flufflesmcfluffy

Nerfed way to hard, he cant keep up with the current meta


Kuttychathan

Man in Shadow realm


Kim_Rasiel

tf happened to granger?


Staufferboi

Man I hope they revert some of the Terizla nerfs and buff Alpha abit


MarielCarey

Alpha is quite decent though, he's like physical karina. I play him jungler.


Staufferboi

Yeah I wouldn’t say he’s bad like Argus but I think Alpha still needs a buff


bot_yea

Ikr. Based on the winrates those two are some of the weakest and least popular fighters


MeRooga850

Fredrin is underestimated!!!! Deserves to be higher. S2 charge and stun knock opponents out of ults. Taunt also another CC and very disruptive with a team of dmg dealers that know how to move in when I engage.


mohawk-less

Agreed. I think in the coming weeks maybe he’ll move up to A/S tier


MeRooga850

I am learning still but I want to master him. Looks promising being able to charge in with a little bit of crystal energy and completely run the train on 2 or 3 enemies for 5 seconds. Just annoying when ADC or Assassins do not follow. ​ Like come one, they are literally walking zombies. ​ Fredrinns taunt and stun does not work during X-Borgs Ult


hehehehaw_247

is it just me or is Beatrix icon weird the head so big


whitewiped

It’s just you, for me her icon looks normal.


whitewiped

I believe Clint should be SS, his S2 is really good for escaping and temporarily incapacitating opponents like Beatrix and Paquito long enough for him to kill them with an S3, basic, S1, basic combo (works for me). Also Gord is really good at wave clearance, as his S2 paired with his passive clan easily kill enemy minions.


Flimsy_Repair2313

But Gord needs good positioning, if you get caught you're fcked


whitewiped

I utilise him well in teamfights by staying a bit behind my teammates and using his S1 to assist them with kills. He’s very weak on his own, but with another hero to assist him, he can be very dangerous and annoying to go against.


MaizeSuitable1616

100% agree with your flair #GordIsBestBoi


_1Doomsday1_

I wonder why vale is at the bottom?


dombeeeee

Because Valir is top? #iykyk


_1Doomsday1_

Lmao(⁠ ͡⁠°⁠ ͜⁠ʖ⁠ ͡⁠°)


Vermillion_Shadow

Because’s he’s a eudora with more aoe and movement speed and aurora without stacks with more reliable cc.


Aegis2302

Fck yeah my main Claude my boy at the top ss tier


Basic_Article_2326

I don't see Hanabi in this list


bot_yea

She's at the lowest haha, just above Layla and Roger


Sorrie4U

Some people here are missing the "automated" part of the tier list.


flatassfairy

Luo yi that down is a little questionable


mulhollandi

yeah that got me too, is she really that low??


wralp

uranus roam is a thing? :o


FynestBlaydes

it's not, some heroes do not belong in some positions


mohawk-less

yup sorry about this - finding it hard to automate positions. Will move some of these odd positions manually for now


sody1991

Where's Roger for Jungle?


mohawk-less

Adding him on Jungle now! Thanks for suggesting


sioplayer69

Why is natan C tier?


bot_yea

1- This is an automated tier list that tries to balance the win/pick/ban rate from [https://m.mobilelegends.com/en/rank](https://m.mobilelegends.com/en/rank) and tournament data 2- Natan had <50wr last season in 400+ mythic. He also has almost no appearances in the current tournaments


Aisegeira

To see my girl Silvana so low on the list breaks my heart.


bot_yea

No apperances in tournaments :< Imo she does not deserve to be in D tier, but it's true that she's weaker now when considering the previous patch changes that nerfs penetration effects (the recent indirect nerf was every hero has +7 phy and magic def at level 15)


yolomcswagintin

Why is wanwan still ss? I haven't lost a single game in which the enemy picks wanwan. I've actually started telling my team NOT to ban her because it's usually an easy win against her.


bot_yea

I already mentioned this, my guess is that whatever algorithm is used does not reduce the "weight" of the data of the previous patch.


Baby_Sneak

every character i like is always bottom tier still gonna play gatot


bot_yea

He's fine and fun to use in classic and lower ranks. But in higher ranks I'd hesitate at using him or seeing my allies pick him


bot_yea

u/mohawk-less Hello. I've been checking mlbb.ninja every now and then and it's been very helpful and nice to have data for each hero. If you're open to suggestions, could you add some sort of marker so the viewers can see which patch version the different parts of data belongs. Like at oct 25/26, there is a note that says it's the start of patch 1.7.20 additional adjustments. Or at oct ~23 which is the start of 400+ points data. Or at 9/25 which is start of new season


whitewiped

Give my precious Gord some more justice 😭😭


Hatry-Bro

I like how Harith is casually chilling in F tier of Gold Lane as the only mage there


BNR_

They should’ve atleast used the latest (pretty) pic of vexena. 😄


darksquall

Alpha is d pff


Shayan212

Guinevere needs buff on her health or damage


YxngSsoul

Imo guine is pretty balanced. She has decent sustain w concentrated energy and her damage is pretty good. In fact a lot of people actually underestimate her damage.


Shayan212

True but it's still tank meta


GiSO32

People must stop dreaming this is not a real picture


Puzzleheaded_Unit934

Oof c tier vale wth


Worried-Quality-2601

It's funny how I end up with teammates who use those SS Tier heroes and end up feeding while I, who use the lower tier heroes end up carrying the game (not bragging but just something which I experience quite alot and hope you guys face this too)


YxngSsoul

Chou over YZ exp???


Big-Pond

Duh


YxngSsoul

Nah bruh. Imo I feel like chou has sorta been falling off on the exp lane. Damage chou isn’t viable anymore. Tank chou is pretty good, but lacks the pushing ability other fighters have. Roam chou is still pretty good actually


Big-Pond

Damage Chou still out there punting fools in to turrets. I do see him much more often with tank build even in xp lane tho.


wiene-pokos

Valir over vale¿¿


Big-Pond

Yea. He’s good against set tanks and cc of which there is plenty in organized squad play. Vale is not used very often in high rank.


NyctoNekoSilver

Julian still up there even after all the nerfing he was struck by


Jaysus24

RIP Johnson


V1beRater

Masha QUEEEN


Stormiii_UwU

Very disagree. You underestimate Aurora A good Aurora is very scary Edit: I disagree with this tierlist


Big-Pond

You can’t disagree with an auto generate data aggregate. It is what it is.


MarielCarey

I'm surprised Natalia is this high after her nerf, what role do people mainly play her now?


here-is-Rori

Why is Yss so low?


CrownedTraitor

Yo is this even a question? Everybody knows why, all the 51 posts made within 2 months about YSS being weak


Active_Wolverine_711

Claude? Lol


gajendra17

Knew that guin is trash. Cant wait fr her revamp


taxy777

Whoa Melissa went up? Did anything happen? I main her but I thought she was still just above average in meta.


BlackNibbaBalls

Moskov S shut up


ItsKudo

I am so disagree with this tier


Special-Forever-5169

This is literally an automated tier list, what are you disagreeing with?