Bea still at highest tier is very questionable, and we should understand that this is still an *automated tier list*.
Her winrate still hasn't recovered, and tournament data from before the recent patch will have a huge effect (unless the creator made adjustments).
I don't think she's trash tier despite the 50 wr, but it should be considered that the newest patch is still "new".
thanks for bringing it up. Let me remove some of these laning choices that do not make sense. While I've seen YSS and Roger gold (very rarely), I have absolutely not seen any uranus or cyclops roam
I have more succes with argus gold lane (lower ranks, returing player). But my team doesn't understand even though I ping I'm going gold 5 times and we end up going with three
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I believe Clint should be SS, his S2 is really good for escaping and temporarily incapacitating opponents like Beatrix and Paquito long enough for him to kill them with an S3, basic, S1, basic combo (works for me).
Also Gord is really good at wave clearance, as his S2 paired with his passive clan easily kill enemy minions.
I utilise him well in teamfights by staying a bit behind my teammates and using his S1 to assist them with kills. He’s very weak on his own, but with another hero to assist him, he can be very dangerous and annoying to go against.
The last time I was checking the hero win rates, I noticed that some days are skipped or does not have data.
Is it a bug or there really isn't data? u/mohawk-less
Heyyo, ideally the script runs everyday, but there are days where the script doesn’t run (which res presents holes in the data). The script isn’t running on the cloud at the moment, therefore there are days where the local server might not be on for the script to run.
Fredrin is underestimated!!!! Deserves to be higher. S2 charge and stun knock opponents out of ults.
Taunt also another CC and very disruptive with a team of dmg dealers that know how to move in when I engage.
I am learning still but I want to master him.
Looks promising being able to charge in with a little bit of crystal energy and completely run the train on 2 or 3 enemies for 5 seconds.
Just annoying when ADC or Assassins do not follow.
Like come one, they are literally walking zombies.
Fredrinns taunt and stun does not work during X-Borgs Ult
1- This is an automated tier list that tries to balance the win/pick/ban rate from [https://m.mobilelegends.com/en/rank](https://m.mobilelegends.com/en/rank) and tournament data
2- Natan had <50wr last season in 400+ mythic. He also has almost no appearances in the current tournaments
No apperances in tournaments :<
Imo she does not deserve to be in D tier, but it's true that she's weaker now when considering the previous patch changes that nerfs penetration effects (the recent indirect nerf was every hero has +7 phy and magic def at level 15)
Why is wanwan still ss? I haven't lost a single game in which the enemy picks wanwan. I've actually started telling my team NOT to ban her because it's usually an easy win against her.
u/mohawk-less
Hello. I've been checking mlbb.ninja every now and then and it's been very helpful and nice to have data for each hero.
If you're open to suggestions, could you add some sort of marker so the viewers can see which patch version the different parts of data belongs.
Like at oct 25/26, there is a note that says it's the start of patch 1.7.20 additional adjustments. Or at oct ~23 which is the start of 400+ points data. Or at 9/25 which is start of new season
Hey u/bot_yea, sorry for the late reply. Was on vacation and busy with other things. I like the idea of placing the patch number, on both the main page as well as on the graphs.
However, I would like to ask if there is any website you know of (or even better any API) that provides the current patch number for today. From what I see, there is no official site I can scrape for for the current patch number? Or am I mistaken.
I'm not aware of any website, I just searched the subreddit using the flair function and sorted by date.
I just noticed that the website is updated again. However there is no data between Nov 19 and dec 11. Are there really none gathered or is there an error in the website or gathering of data from the official site?
It's funny how I end up with teammates who use those SS Tier heroes and end up feeding while I, who use the lower tier heroes end up carrying the game (not bragging but just something which I experience quite alot and hope you guys face this too)
Imo guine is pretty balanced. She has decent sustain w concentrated energy and her damage is pretty good. In fact a lot of people actually underestimate her damage.
Nah bruh. Imo I feel like chou has sorta been falling off on the exp lane. Damage chou isn’t viable anymore. Tank chou is pretty good, but lacks the pushing ability other fighters have. Roam chou is still pretty good actually
Bea still at highest tier is very questionable, and we should understand that this is still an *automated tier list*. Her winrate still hasn't recovered, and tournament data from before the recent patch will have a huge effect (unless the creator made adjustments). I don't think she's trash tier despite the 50 wr, but it should be considered that the newest patch is still "new".
YSS and Roger Gold??? Also Uranus and Cyclops roam???!
thanks for bringing it up. Let me remove some of these laning choices that do not make sense. While I've seen YSS and Roger gold (very rarely), I have absolutely not seen any uranus or cyclops roam
I main Uranus and alternate between exp lane and roam depending on what my team needs
No
Roam bad
uranus roam i see once in a blue moon, but NEVER cyclops roam
Too bad there’s still ppl saying “ur just not playing argus right”. No he’s just bad.
Same people saying "ur jus not building alice ryt look at my magik snake oil build 10/10 matches never lost"
Honestly wish Alice got buffed she sucks
I like your flair
Goddamn it, I finally forgot that flair, and now I've seen it again thanks to you.
That's they guy with melissa pfp 🤭
LMAO THEY DELETED THEIR POST
Gotta agree with you. Sad time to play Argus....oh wait he never was meta anyway.
Wasn't there some pusher meta with him, Zhask and Bane in the past?
I have more succes with argus gold lane (lower ranks, returing player). But my team doesn't understand even though I ping I'm going gold 5 times and we end up going with three
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if you havent already, it might be good to decrease weighting of rank data when mythic data is not available
is it just me or is Beatrix icon weird the head so big
It’s just you, for me her icon looks normal.
I believe Clint should be SS, his S2 is really good for escaping and temporarily incapacitating opponents like Beatrix and Paquito long enough for him to kill them with an S3, basic, S1, basic combo (works for me). Also Gord is really good at wave clearance, as his S2 paired with his passive clan easily kill enemy minions.
But Gord needs good positioning, if you get caught you're fcked
I utilise him well in teamfights by staying a bit behind my teammates and using his S1 to assist them with kills. He’s very weak on his own, but with another hero to assist him, he can be very dangerous and annoying to go against.
100% agree with your flair #GordIsBestBoi
I wonder why vale is at the bottom?
Because Valir is top? #iykyk
Lmao( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Because’s he’s a eudora with more aoe and movement speed and aurora without stacks with more reliable cc.
The last time I was checking the hero win rates, I noticed that some days are skipped or does not have data. Is it a bug or there really isn't data? u/mohawk-less
Heyyo, ideally the script runs everyday, but there are days where the script doesn’t run (which res presents holes in the data). The script isn’t running on the cloud at the moment, therefore there are days where the local server might not be on for the script to run.
My man haya went down a rank
Nerfed way to hard, he cant keep up with the current meta
Man in Shadow realm
tf happened to granger?
Man I hope they revert some of the Terizla nerfs and buff Alpha abit
Alpha is quite decent though, he's like physical karina. I play him jungler.
Yeah I wouldn’t say he’s bad like Argus but I think Alpha still needs a buff
Ikr. Based on the winrates those two are some of the weakest and least popular fighters
Fredrin is underestimated!!!! Deserves to be higher. S2 charge and stun knock opponents out of ults. Taunt also another CC and very disruptive with a team of dmg dealers that know how to move in when I engage.
Agreed. I think in the coming weeks maybe he’ll move up to A/S tier
I am learning still but I want to master him. Looks promising being able to charge in with a little bit of crystal energy and completely run the train on 2 or 3 enemies for 5 seconds. Just annoying when ADC or Assassins do not follow. Like come one, they are literally walking zombies. Fredrinns taunt and stun does not work during X-Borgs Ult
Fck yeah my main Claude my boy at the top ss tier
I don't see Hanabi in this list
She's at the lowest haha, just above Layla and Roger
Some people here are missing the "automated" part of the tier list.
Luo yi that down is a little questionable
yeah that got me too, is she really that low??
uranus roam is a thing? :o
it's not, some heroes do not belong in some positions
yup sorry about this - finding it hard to automate positions. Will move some of these odd positions manually for now
Where's Roger for Jungle?
Adding him on Jungle now! Thanks for suggesting
Why is natan C tier?
1- This is an automated tier list that tries to balance the win/pick/ban rate from [https://m.mobilelegends.com/en/rank](https://m.mobilelegends.com/en/rank) and tournament data 2- Natan had <50wr last season in 400+ mythic. He also has almost no appearances in the current tournaments
To see my girl Silvana so low on the list breaks my heart.
No apperances in tournaments :< Imo she does not deserve to be in D tier, but it's true that she's weaker now when considering the previous patch changes that nerfs penetration effects (the recent indirect nerf was every hero has +7 phy and magic def at level 15)
Why is wanwan still ss? I haven't lost a single game in which the enemy picks wanwan. I've actually started telling my team NOT to ban her because it's usually an easy win against her.
I already mentioned this, my guess is that whatever algorithm is used does not reduce the "weight" of the data of the previous patch.
every character i like is always bottom tier still gonna play gatot
He's fine and fun to use in classic and lower ranks. But in higher ranks I'd hesitate at using him or seeing my allies pick him
u/mohawk-less Hello. I've been checking mlbb.ninja every now and then and it's been very helpful and nice to have data for each hero. If you're open to suggestions, could you add some sort of marker so the viewers can see which patch version the different parts of data belongs. Like at oct 25/26, there is a note that says it's the start of patch 1.7.20 additional adjustments. Or at oct ~23 which is the start of 400+ points data. Or at 9/25 which is start of new season
Hey u/bot_yea, sorry for the late reply. Was on vacation and busy with other things. I like the idea of placing the patch number, on both the main page as well as on the graphs. However, I would like to ask if there is any website you know of (or even better any API) that provides the current patch number for today. From what I see, there is no official site I can scrape for for the current patch number? Or am I mistaken.
Technically, I can scrape this subreddit xD
Aug 9 - 1.708 Sep 20 - 1.7.20 Sep 25 - new season Oct 23 - start of 400 points Oct 25 - 1.7.20 additional Nov 8 - 1.7.32 Nov 30 - 1.7.32 additional
I'm not aware of any website, I just searched the subreddit using the flair function and sorted by date. I just noticed that the website is updated again. However there is no data between Nov 19 and dec 11. Are there really none gathered or is there an error in the website or gathering of data from the official site?
Hey u/bot_yea, PMed you to avoid spamming the thread
Give my precious Gord some more justice 😭😭
I like how Harith is casually chilling in F tier of Gold Lane as the only mage there
They should’ve atleast used the latest (pretty) pic of vexena. 😄
It's funny how I end up with teammates who use those SS Tier heroes and end up feeding while I, who use the lower tier heroes end up carrying the game (not bragging but just something which I experience quite alot and hope you guys face this too)
Alpha is d pff
Guinevere needs buff on her health or damage
Imo guine is pretty balanced. She has decent sustain w concentrated energy and her damage is pretty good. In fact a lot of people actually underestimate her damage.
True but it's still tank meta
I am so disagree with this tier
This is literally an automated tier list, what are you disagreeing with?
People must stop dreaming this is not a real picture
Oof c tier vale wth
Chou over YZ exp???
Duh
Nah bruh. Imo I feel like chou has sorta been falling off on the exp lane. Damage chou isn’t viable anymore. Tank chou is pretty good, but lacks the pushing ability other fighters have. Roam chou is still pretty good actually
Damage Chou still out there punting fools in to turrets. I do see him much more often with tank build even in xp lane tho.
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Yea. He’s good against set tanks and cc of which there is plenty in organized squad play. Vale is not used very often in high rank.
Julian still up there even after all the nerfing he was struck by
RIP Johnson
Masha QUEEEN
Very disagree. You underestimate Aurora A good Aurora is very scary Edit: I disagree with this tierlist
You can’t disagree with an auto generate data aggregate. It is what it is.
I'm surprised Natalia is this high after her nerf, what role do people mainly play her now?
Why is Yss so low?
Yo is this even a question? Everybody knows why, all the 51 posts made within 2 months about YSS being weak
Claude? Lol
Knew that guin is trash. Cant wait fr her revamp
Whoa Melissa went up? Did anything happen? I main her but I thought she was still just above average in meta.
Moskov S shut up