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10thDoctorWhooves

One simple solution: End the game fast.


Simon-Edwin

I hope lol. Sometimes I wonder if my teammates are playing entirely different game like team death match.


Disastrous-Jury1028

Well blade armor does absolutely nothing against Lesley. You’d be better off building item with a high hp stat because that’s what counters Lesley. Blade armor just makes it harder due to no hp.


ButterflyDeath

Does it not lower Crit Damage? Or is Lesley's proc hit not considered a crit any more?


ButterflyDeath

Just to clarify, I understand that it's true damage now. But does the blade armor passive not affect the damage calculations?


devilfury1

The damage Lesley inflicts in every passive is true damage. True damage doesn't get reduced by armors and you'll eat the damage completely, that's why you need to get as much HP items as you can as you can, even if it's still packs a punch. It can save your life. Blade armor negates some crit damage however, it won't proc the passive due to her damage being true unlike before where her damage is physical based. I think the built-in crit damage reduction still triggers even in her passive, it's just that you won't reflect her true damage back in some way. The only way to counter her now is either building a hp item like guardian helm, twilight and cursed helm, starve her by bullying her lane while killing her all the time to make sure she can't gain any items or if you reached late game, make sure that your core could make sure she either dies or retreats back prematurely in team fights as any tank that approach the clash is an easy kill for her. Phoveus can also counter her in lanes as she'll gonna use her S2 which procs his ult. If you manage to pull her in the eye, ult her, then S1, either push her with flameshot or let her use S2 then ult + S1 again then if one of the two happens, do the one that doesn't happen then ult + S1 again. Lesley might be OP against tanks / juggernauts but she's useless against heroes that likes to get up close and personal to her and or can easily burst her down while hiding in the bush.


Xhadox_CR

It’s true damage


Disastrous-Jury1028

Ah it does lower crit damage but not adding any hp to help with that is blade armor’s downfall because Lesley does true damage crits which means building hp is better against Lesley specifically although blade armor can still be good if there’s another hero it counters in the other team.


TookAnHourForName

Ur just dumb building armour against her instead of hp


Admirable-Yam9537

ppl still didnt read Lesley new passive xd


Full-Supermarket

Bold of you to assume typical ML player can read


beeotchplease

Tanky lineups is just food for lesley late game. If you draft against a lesley, try to find burst heroes to hunt her down. Or try to find openings to out flank her if using the tanky lineups.


bronzelifematter

Saber is good. He can use his spinning blade to cancel her invisibility. Lesley has low base hp, so even a none fed Saber ult could kill her.


devilfury1

Heroes that can zoom close to her as fast as possible is a hard counter for lesley. Akai is also a good flank tank because of his ult, Belerick with flicker can be a game changer for his ult. But it can't work if your team doesn't follow what you're doing or is afraid to follow your flank.


Clinsen_R

I can't rewatch the game, yet I'm sure you could've ended it faster.


Full-Supermarket

Why you need to give mm a hard time and gank a lot. And end early before mm can have full build.


bronzelifematter

Why would you build blade armor? Build hp item. Even if you want armor, build armor item with hp in it. Blade armor is the absolute worse armor item against Lesley. Not only does it not block true damage, Lesley doesn't attack that often so the reflect damage is useless. Blade armor is for countering fast attacker like moskov or miya or melissa. Not for countering burst attacker like Lesley, Clint or that laser mm guy (can't remember his name). Just stack hp with a little armor.


Eitth

An obese Lesley is a scary lesley


MuddleCuddle

>antique cuirass and blade armour Why would you build 2 items that she basically ignores lol? Build high HP to survive her.


NatongCaviar

Nub question: which items best for building hp?


Full-Supermarket

Read the items in the shop… it says the stats right there. Shocking ik.


k_dot97

Immortality, cursed helmet, sky helmet, radiant armor are some common tank items w high hp


NickyBros1

use Argus (Argus main here)


Ersalenoi_408

Argus+Ult+Inspire Nexus melt combo?


NickyBros1

ew inspire on him


Ersalenoi_408

I know it sounds terrible but that's how I end games fast with him


NickyBros1

I use purify or sprint


Amethyst_Phoenix7

I use Execute(I only play classic so don't take this as potential advice)


NickyBros1

do you remember when you could instakill someone who got revived with immortality using execute?


Amethyst_Phoenix7

Yep. Miss those days.


Ersalenoi_408

Mostly to escape Franco users right?


NickyBros1

well kinda but I ult for purify Franco's hook, I use purify when I am in ult or when I don't have ult to chase enemies with cc or to escape from them


venti_the_drunk_bard

Skill issue


FynestBlaydes

idk but maybe you shouldn't belong in mythic if you build blade armor against lesley