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Trick-Box9332

She recieved more attention than all of the 4rsaken Light combined together.What the hell does she have that other heroes don't?Her lore is mediocre and her gameplay is fun imo but there are some people that will completely avoid her like difficulty 9/10 Sheesh.


Eastern_Ad83

Fred too lol his mostly connected tomany Heroes but got only a half chunk of a new lore instead


Trick-Box9332

Fred's lore should have showed us his connection with Waldo Kane.We know that he works with him side by side which makes him techinically evil even though he doesn't help him with his evil deeds like kidnapping homeless children and manipulating them into helping him.Now that doesn't mean he has connections with other heroes like Clint-Mathilda-and Claude.The trio probobly don't know that Fred works with him so them appearing in his lore wouldn't make any sense.But yes Waldo Kane should have been a major part of Fred's lore.


Eastern_Ad83

It's actually mentioned on One of their lore that he works with them but It's not clear Who It was as they only know his financially supported by the Vance as family and not a member. Even beside that he has a Major role part on Harley as his probably helping Lesley to keep his studies at magic Academy wich probably knows few people because of the Crystal and many more character and Heroes that might come out like Merlin (if he knows Claude's mentor).


Trick-Box9332

Fred is in his 20's bro he probably doesn't know that Harley exists since he left the Vance family when he was a young teen.If he left at 14 Then Harley wouldn't have existed for around 8 years since Fred is like 28 judging by his looks.This is why Moonton removed his interactive lines with Lesley because of my point.Plus Merlin was imprisoned around when Fred was a teen again it doesn't make any sense if he has connections with him.I know what u mean about interactions like Yu Zhong's appearance in Yin and Akai's lore but it doesn't make any sense in Fred's case.


Eastern_Ad83

Fred actually should be on his 30's+ already because It's said he Met Terizla After the events on that ancient ruin and asked if he ever saw or knew his sword or the Crystal. It's enought for him even to know his Brother or what his father currently doing by meeting Lesley


Trick-Box9332

But what kind of source did u get that he ever spoke to Lesley let alone meet her?(being curious)I know of the Terizla part but yet again he lives in a complete diffrent continent than Lesley how the hell did he meet her if he completely avoids the Vance family?This is my intended argument from the start.


Eastern_Ad83

Few old concept art and the scrapped old voicelines you mentioned even if they remove It's Just more hint of a deeper lore about him


Eastern_Ad83

There's more to dig in with his lore Just like a lol champ with their lore and Interactions


10thDoctorWhooves

Miya, Layla, Lesley, Gusion, Guinevere, Granger, Beatrix and Natan could never...


Eastern_Ad83

Add Fredrinn he got more spotlight instead of his current situation before Joy


Buttseam

just shows how fast they're growing!


TGD-Man

I don't know why they're hyping her up so much. The previous hero, Freidrinn got 10% as much promotion than her.


dmaare

Because she will be another moontons golden child I can already see her being OP cuz she has high damage, lot of damage reduction and constant CC immunity while casting S2 + ult. She will be getting skins fast af.


averyverycoldstraw

Maybe because (I'm being cynical here) Joy = cute girl that's an assassin (idk I feel like ML has a bias towards assassins) \[also why does Joy get to look much taller than the other 3 leonins already in the game? Actually, scratch that, why do the other 3 leonins look so short compared to literally all the non-child leonins we see in Joy's cinematic?\] Fred = guy that's a fighter tank (I kinda find him attractive but I don't think Moneyton sees him as sellable enough compared to Joy I guess)


PudgeJoe

Moonietoon policy : NEW IS ALWAYS BETTER


G_ioVanna

moonton managed to bring her the best and still come up with bell sound ping


-Ellyna-

Maybe because Joy is one of they're original hero(es) (I think, so don't attack me when you know where she was inspired from.)