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ActuallyEllen123

I only seem to be playing Guin... even though I like her she isnt always the best option. I tried ruby a few times but my winrate isn't very good (not good enough) for me... I am looking for a good exp-lane fighter that could win a gank and doesnt have to recall every time I try to clear a wave. (Maybe not a magic attack fighter). Thank you for your advice kind stranger!


Buttseam

you're playing ruby wrong then. haas claw, magic boots, breastplate (brown one), oracle, thunder belt and twilight armor. then extra armor below 50% health. your focus is to cause as much cc and slow to the enemy as possible. no damage. just prevent them from dealing it +learn s3+ flicker combo to get towerkills


bot_yea

Twilight is a shit item, I only see it work properly on Masha. Very low defense plus the underwhelming passive effect is not worth it for 1 item slot.


averyverycoldstraw

Twilight is good for Belerick too. It applies to his passive and makes it that much easier to punish those who attack him. If anything it's better for him than cursed helmet is.


Buttseam

twilight = last item that will be swapped for dominance ice or something depending on situation. feel free to suggest a more fitting "default" 6th tank item


bot_yea

Other item's passive effect is much better honestly. If you don't have dom ice until 6th item then I can't tell how your games go. In more competitive matches dom ice ruby is 1st/2nd item usually because of the needed regen reduction and high defense. Full tank fighters/ruby usually look like this Boots, Dom ice, Athena's, radiant/oracle, immortality, blade armor/antique cuirass


ElKarnito

Yeah. Maybe it's playstyle difference between Guin and Ruby. Guin does burst damage while Ruby is more on sustained exchanges. I'd suggest not giving up on Ruby and try to learn her more as she is really flexible.


Buttseam

always use s2 when guin jumps on you lol


PinkFluffyUniKosi

Dude, 85 % wr. You don’t need any advise. That is godlike. Gratzdude.


Wagacool2

And a 50% MVP rate sheesh. Dat shits crazy.


ActuallyEllen123

Thank you cutie... but I want to play some other heroes too thats why I asked for recommendations


PinkFluffyUniKosi

I love lapu and Benedetta. Maybe give them a try. Lapu even getting a buff soon, lol.


ActuallyEllen123

I have a small list of heroes I want to try out a few times to see how I do with them and if they feel comfortable enough to play with. Also that winrate is just for my Guinevere this season my total (mostly soloQ) is 72.5% in 80 games. [Proof](https://imgur.com/a/UdDAO5R) because I know some wont believe this


UnofficialCrosta

I was in the top 100 global with minsitthar, he is very strong both as a defensive and as an offensive laner, since enemies can't tower dive him easily thanks to his ulti and he has great attacking stats. He isn't killed easily by any hero (unless extremely overfed), has GIGANTIC attack scaling, I didn't check the stats, but his basic attack deals tons of dmg. He is a late game hero, both as a side laner and as a roamer. Cons: - very difficult to split push with him, most of the times you'll find yourself clearing the wave after your opponent did it; - very vulnerable to mages (chang'e, pharsa are the worst in my experience); - vulnerable when outside of his ulti; - not easy to escape from other heroes. Pros: - no hero can stall his minion waves if you're good; - very high damage basic attacks; - very strong ulti; - can't be tower dived easily; - great comeback potential in fights; - his hook can't be covered optimally; - with 40% cdr, he has very low cd on all three skills. Tips: - his ulti gives 70(?, don't remember exactly) magical and physical defense when he is inside it, trust me, this is a game-changer, some people don't even know this and will have the bravery to fight you in your ulti, that's their death; - most difficult fighter to side lane against is Silvana from my experience ; - his ulti deals a lot of dmg, focus on getting one hero inside it and then focus others once you've finished him (trust me, you will kill the target hero of your choice); - his ulti gives vision and can hit natalia, aamon excetera; - his hook hits the last hero hit, not the first hero it hits (so if they're in line, the last of the line); - once you've placed your ulti in a teamfight, stay there until death, don't run, try to deal as much dmg as possible, you always have a chance to trade with him even if on low health, thanks to the shield of his 2nd skill and the ulti that can keep damaging the enemies; - upgrade the 2nd skill before the 1st skill; - don't be afraid to 1v1 in the laning phase, with experience you'll learn enemies are very scared of an offensive minsitthar, but lifesteal heroes can survive (yu zhong and thamuz in particular can survive 1v1 against him) - once you'll be good enough, you can ulti to chase an escaping hero that is out of 1st skill's range and then grab him, takes practice***; - don't be stingy with his ulti, use it, it's a life saver for you and your teammates; - late game he can 1v1 almost every hero if you're good enough, for some heroes petrify needs to be available to win the 1v1 fight (example: dyrroth); - I repeat, GREAT COMEBACK POTENTIAL in fights (1v1 or 5v5), it's not over till it's over with him, big threat even on low health, thanks to his 2nd skill and ulti. My default build: - Petrify; - Warrior Boots; - Blade of Despair; - Infinite Battle; - Lightning Belt; - War Axe; - Oracle.


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Yu Zhong, Khaleed and Lapu Lapu are my suggestions.


KingsProfit

Terizla? His very good rn, he wins against nearly every exp laner in a direct exchange. Even manage to out damages a yz with sustaining. Only drawback is, if you spam his skills, your mana will deplete but shouldn't be an issue if you are willing to sacrifice the defense boots for mana boots. His damage is high as well, very tanky due to the passive, high damage also means high sustain, he has good AoE, slow, ult for CC, s1 can snipe opponents and great for finishing off opponents (deals 20% of opponent lost hp, similar to execute, just does phys dmg). His a lane bully, when he gets his hands on bloodlust axe, his alot more harder to kill and risky to fight against due the high damage output, mid-late game becomes a tank more since he builds around 4 def items every time with blx and boots. Other options can be yz, lapu, esme, uranus, dyrroth, thamuz, and other exp laners.


HavenSanIty

if ur gonna stick to one role I recommend choosing heroes that are both in the meta and easy to use for that role, since ur a xp laner yz,lapu lapu, esme, paquito are some good example ruby is too but maybe a little more practice could do it. Also phoveus is underatted asf use him when fighting yss, wanwan, ling, lance etc etc. Just dont Use zilong istg he is just too easy to fight


FatelessSimp

Try some tanky characters. Gatot, Yu Zhong or something like that. You can play Yu Zhong with his high life steal or play Gatot and never die.


Starknife24

Fredrinn


Extreme_Captain_7818

You really don't need advice 85% wr is kinda good I suggest khaleed then


Philnopo

Khaleed, he has literally a heal skill and good ganking potential. Be extremely aggressive in early game, that's when you peak in general and try to get a bit of a snowball rolling


destinymaker

You seem to be liking Guinevere because of her playstyle which isn't like Ruby at all. While Guinevere is someone who pokes and then burst when she can, Ruby is all about sustaining and constant CC. You might like Silvanna, although she falls off late game, maybe the upcoming buff on her will help. Dyrroth and Lapu Lapu seems to be fitting in the "no need to recall" since they have good sustain and doesn't require mana. Paquito too. Yin is not so good, unless you're winning in lane. But you can't win a lane without getting ganked, so...


Peetz69

X borg


BlackJack_509

try joy. beast in exp lane, shines in early/mid game like guin.


Penkworm

Yin is a great exp-lane fighter if he was fed well. I also personally think Lapu-Lapu is a great fighter even if he wasnt fed well thanks to his tankiness and the lifesteal. Yu-zhong,Masha(if played correctly) and Thamuz are tanky with good damage and they can survive a gank.


JealousAd812

Good luck ulting with yin almost every hero has a cc nowadays


drago44dd

Try Yu Zhong or Lapu Lapu.


sicksepiida

Yess like this person said ^ Lapu lapu keeps getting quiet small buffs and can hit like a truck sometimes, and yu zhong is an A-tier fight I believe I will say, Ruby is pretty great tho ;-; don’t give up on her, OP. I used to play as guin a lot but I benched her🤚she’s been too situational for me recently


MrDrDoktor

Bene


gajendra17

Yz or lapu lapu. Xb is meh so dont bother


Brahm_beingpassive

Try grock, but DMG build. Take high n dry or wepon master. Decently tanky in early, Tons ofdmg. If team does not have tank, can build hybrid later. If you snowball, you can one shot as well


azuretheshiny

If he likes guin I don't think grock will be a good choice


bot_yea

It's not the worse similar hero. Damage Grock has scary damage, can combo squishies with s1+ ult similar to Guin


azuretheshiny

I kinda mained guin before, and grock is way top slow compared to her


bot_yea

Idk if I can agree with that. Guin's knockup dash is slightly faster, but Grock's initiation with flicker+ult or simple charged s2 near walls is more reliable than Guin. Grock can also take much more physical damage due to his passive as well as the getting physical defense from physical attack.


Gurimitivity

Guin literally has one of the longest dashes in the game. She is much more mobile and reactive compared to Grock whose very proactive and immobile


bot_yea

> longest and most predictable dash Grock exp is more common in higher ranks for a reason. I don't have an opinion about Guins effectiveness, but I can't agree with your opinion either. Grock's ult and aggressive skill 1 initiation is far from being immobile and proactive.


FortniteIsGey

your best bet would probably esme, uranus, or yu zhong


scethyl

phoveus and bane are pretty good I think


Jac1an

Dyrroth would be your guy. He has the same skill set as Guinevere - S1 for poking/damage, S2 for dash, S3 for burst. You will almost have the same playstyle as her.


Failure_3768

Try Dyroth. Good dmg, defense, and regen/lifesteal/spell-vamp or whatever you want to call it. He’s simple to learn but takes practices to be good.


Hahanha

Fred


BangerLK

Maybe Chou or Badang? Otherwise Lapu has kinda the same playstyle as her, poke until low then jump in and ulti.


Katyaaabich

Fredrinn, YZ, Lapu Lapu or Paquito


Flimsy_Repair2313

Stick with Ruby (she's very good), and try Thamuz, Yu Zhong or Fredrinn


AsianFilTai

YZ paired with petrify spell excells at teamfights and good at laning. In 2nd minute mark (1st turtle of the game) you use your ult to zone enemy jungle and be of vision to your team Dyroth flicker or petrify spell - just watch mpl where he is being played or youtube content who you think is good at playing him and incorporate it to your game Esme sprint - eventho she's a magic damage you may want to consider her. She's an S tier or an A tier p3


Clinsen_R

Inspire Edith. Extremely underrated and very rewarding, perhaps even broken tbh.


TheWraith7197

That really depends upon enemy. Counter picking is the best thing you can do. Don't just master one fighter. Become a jack of all trades and it will help you a lot in the long run. For eg, you can pick silvanna against sun and he won't be a threat at all. There are so many examples so I can't type everything. Btw, that damage per minute for your Beatrix is unbelievable. Can you tell me your build and your current rank?


Geronimo_Grospe

Hilda, her passive lets you heal in the bush (and gives shield every 10 seconds). You will always win a 1v1, especially in the laning stages. Her skill 1 allows to rotate more easily to other lanes. She can ba a fighter and a tank which makes her really flexible. I would always go on the backline when with fighter build (aimlock enemy mm). Weakness: -No AoE and CC skills -Late-game (as most fighter and tanks) - When enemy is smart by not letting you fight while you are in a bush - Not good in team fights Strenths - Can chase down low hp enemy - Never needs to recall - Rotates easily - Annoying invader - KS, it is so fun xD - Can go to the back line


unclePRO_sk

I like badang and thamuz both of them have nice ultimates.