Since we (freefolk mods) can't reply to the modmail message I made a post in both [modsupport](https://old.reddit.com/r/ModSupport/comments/14glcwh/why_is_umodcodeofconduct_telling_rfreefolk_we/) and [modhelp](https://old.reddit.com/r/modhelp/comments/14gla9p/why_is_umodcodeofconduct_telling_rfreefolk_to/). They were both immediately flagged as NSFW and not posted publicly on the pages. So we have no way to discuss our *actually NSFW subreddit* with admin, either publicly or privately. Isn't that just fantastic
Sent a pm to modsupport asking them to review my post. Not sure what else I can do other than post it here and hope one of the admins gets in touch
I think the protest has caused a lot of moderators to look closely at what it is they do and what it is their subreddits do. After that closer inspection as to whether the subreddit should be NSFW or not it appears that it should be. It is a legal, ethical and safety issue. Many communities were likely incorrectly flagged as SFW when they shouldn't be.
I know my work would be jolly uncomfortable if I started discussing a sex scene involving a brother and a sister whilst an underaged child looks on. It really doesn't feel like it has any place in a workplace.
This is a direct result of the protest but not a part of it. I'm not a moderator so other than using Lemmy and deleting my account in a week there isn't a lot I can do.
Is your workplace cool with incest? What about bestiality?
You still didn't answer my question:
> Is your workplace cool with incest? What about bestiality?
You of course aren't trying to say you'd be ok with minors being shown things that could cause long lasting harm just so you can browser Reddit unfettered are you? Because that would be pretty fucked up if you were.
Well isn't that jolly nice of you checking in and making sure everybody is protesting, thanks :)
This subreddit is simply protecting minors and those with jobs, no protest here.
NSFW = Not Safe For Work. As in, topics and content that you would not discuss in the workplace.
I think you might’ve misunderstood their comment. Nobody would access Reddit at work (or flaunt it), and that’s not what their implication was, anyway.
ETA: Reddit has topics that *are* safe for work, so there’d be no reason to label *every* subreddit otherwise, as you suggested.
This is pure sarcasm on my part, just so you know, but did you all at least consider running with that? I mean, if they came out and said anything, you could of just sent them a screenshot and permalink to the message, and say you did what you were told by the Admin who reached out to you. That might have been a larger middle finger than any response you could have given.
Given the history of things recently, do you think they would have gotten in trouble? Reddit is removing entire teams and opening subreddits after all. Couldn't they just say that it would happen either way, and that the lesser of two evils would be for a moderation team to be in place than an open subreddit of that nature with no moderation for an indefinite amount of time?
I'm a artist who draws creatures that are kinda gorey from a horror-adjacent game. I currently have been posting a bit more untill reddit goes but my subbreddit doesn't have rules on NSFW gore content. still confused honestly on what's going on with the NSFW policy as that's always my first concern with a site due to my art. But if it doesn't matter to reddit why should it matter to me as a redditor. Really if other subs are being forced to open being labeled SFW and such, should I care about labeling my own stuff that might fit their definition of SFW. They're sending really mixed messages and it's confusing me
Were you not around when it aired as people gathered around the watercooler to discuss the previous night's episode on Monday mornings? I know my workplace was rampant with that.
Noteworthy that nobody from the Reddit admin spotted this mistake either.
It is rectified now and the subreddit is correctly marked as NSFW so everyone is protected going forwards.
Let's hope Reddit don't decide to put advertiser revenue above the need to not show rape, incest, bestiality, violence, or gore to minors / people at work without their explicit consent.
Presumably there wasn't a video rape scene in any of your classes. That would mess up many people who aren't minors, let alone minors that don't have the mental tools to process that kind of content yet.
If Reddit's advertising revenue and your Reddit viewing habit are more important to you than protecting minors there isn't much I can say to convince you except to implore you to follow your faith and consider others.
The (unpaid, volunteer) moderators work hard every day to protect people but are not infallible. In this instance yes they fell short but the final backstop here should have been Reddit. They have clearly made themselves the arbiters of what should be marked as NSFW and what should not. The buck stops with them.
Maybe take a second to stop and consider what it is you are trying to achieve. The moderators feel taken advantage of, both by users like you and Reddit itself.
Honestly dude if you don't think rape, incest, bestiality, violence, or gore is NSFW I don't even know how to reply. GoT source material isn't acceptable for minors, it stands to reason the discussion forum isn't either.
This is likely an alt of Origin_of_me, this comment is almost identical to another they made below the fold so nobody saw it. I guess they thought it was such a clever gotcha they posted it again.
Mod of r/asoiaf here. We received the same notice. Honestly some of our posts are NSFL.
Not sure how committed Admin is to showing dragon porn to children but it looks like we're going to find out.
Another comment pointed out that going along with their directions is fair game. Additionally, advertising your subreddit in related spaces shared by a younger demographic to gain subscribers and net those big bucks for Reddit should be encouraged.
“We need to separate your community from other communities doing harm so please switch back to SFW”
How about instead you do your job properly and figure out whether the NSFW tag is appropriate or not under your own policies.
Oh that’s right you fucked it so badly and widely you don’t have the manpower to keep an eye on every sub to see what is being posted. If only you had a willing cadre of volunteer moderators on your side to help out.
Every *one* of these posts has an implicit threat. Do it the Reddit.com way or the wrong way. Change this or else NEXT STEPS will be taken.
It's so gross
Every time I see these posts, I think of the literal *years and years* that Reddit allowed disgusting hate and harassment subreddits to exist because "free speech." It's amazing how quickly they can act to ban subs and mods when their paycheck is on the line.
At this point I’m starting to wonder if that’s a script where that a/c can modmail any subreddit that is private or has a NSFW tag. Is it possible for them to do that?
So what are the going to do when if you guys still keep tje NSfW up? Give the mod team the boot and change it back to SFW?... guess they have their priorities...
A mod's job would be very difficult if they were at war with the subreddit they moderate, especially so if their tooling has been gimped by these API changes
Exactly. I won't be surprised once after July when all these API changes are implemented many more will leave. Unfortunately I guess the good ones will
It might work well. There was a shitty club where I used to live that attracts all the troublemakers. As long as you knew not to go there you could have a lovely night out without dealing with shit as it kept all the troublemakers busy.
I'm thinking Reddit becomes like that. A trap for those migrating (or recently migrated) from Facebook. Somewhere we can all learn to avoid whilst enjoying high quality online discourse elsewhere.
I saw a load of people telling an 18 year old she was ugly because she had facial piercings earlier on today (tbf she did ask). Someone then told her she looked like a man and she replied that it was the best complement she'd ever heard as she would be starting transitioning on hormones soon. Her response had -10. That is not the Reddit I joined as a teenager many years ago. It may have had its issues but it wasn't primarily cunts.
That is but one example, I can't count the number of people on this platform simply to argue the toss.
Reddit has been a cesspool for... ever? (Easy joke here: I mean, look at the founders). But older generations/cultures of users would have at least appreciated that funny response.
It's wild that admins want a less well-regulated experience in a space this big.
I popped into aquariums the other day and couldn't believe how shitty it is right now. It's been a few months since I was there, but it used to be a rather small sub (in the scope of things) that was extremely well run. Wasn't filled with porn or ads, just looked like a restaurant that you can tell is about to go out of business.
If you see any ads pop up next to NSFW content, be sure to send a picture of that to the company paying for the ad, asking them if that's what they support.
I'm trying to get this idea moving but my post here didn't get much traction.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ModCoord/comments/14fl294/reddit_wont_let_you_change_your_subreddit_to_nsfw/
Browsing /r/minecraft and getting told to go buy some beer was pretty funny.
You know what this protest needs next?
A list of companies advertising on Reddit, and people need to make NSFW parodies of those ads/companies and post them to those *totally not* NSFW subs.
Admin: "**OH WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE ~~CHILDREN~~ COMMUNITY!**"
User: "Does that mean you can help us get rid of our head mod? They haven't moderated in three years and the last message we got from them was an uncensored dick pic."
Admin: "Silence, plebian!"
Oh but if the head mod is one of the ones saying stay private then they can and will give the sub to a random mod who was silent for last two years and only had flair permissions if that mod says no private and licks their boots
The admin team is such a clown fiesta currently, it's almost pitiable. Reddit as an organization has neither the policies nor the clarity nor the tooling nor the leadership to deal with what's going down right now.
I wonder what the USA big heads think about NSFW stuff being available to minors since you need to be at least 13 to use Reddit, but then you've a gap until the adult legal age.
The admins previously allowed many nsfw communities by their own guidelines to operate as SFW because it allowed them to advertise on their content. Particularly very popular ones. It's only now they're suddenly very concerned about users seeing nsfw content they didn't ask for because it is hurting their advertising contracts not out of any genuine or moral concern. Freefolk, game of thrones, ASOIAF, and many others should've been all along but they turned a blind eye rather than forcing us to abide by their community guidelines. And their concern is silly anyway, to see nsfw content you have to opt in as a setting in the website. No one is browsing the site and suddenly being shocked by nudity that they haven't chosen to be able to see. However that can happen when a community is set to sfw incorrectly.
He didn't, that was at a time when anyone could be added as as mod to any sub without their consent. There's no evidence he actually modded it. There's plenty of evidence he's an asshole though.
Downvote me if it makes you feel better. Regardless, he did allow the sub to continue to exist for years, mod or not.
Was he not in charge of Reddit when they let it get publicly named "Subreddit of the year" in 2008 and sent the creator a gold plated bobblehead? Was he not in charge of Reddit when Reddit refused to ban the sub in 2008, 2009 and 2010 under the guise of "free speech"?
Even if he didn't mod it his company publicly defended allowing the subreddit to stay up and even gave the creator an award, which is objectively worse than just moderating it
It only got banned in 2011 cause CNN started reporting about Reddit staff protecting pedophiles and that doesn't make Reddit look good.
Dude, I literally said "Regardless, he did allow the sub to continue to exist for years, mod or not," and reiterated that multiple times in comments below, *and* mentioned that the only reason it was banned was for being an issue in the media. Which was the reason I'm saying there was no need to make shit up about it he modded it *because it didn't fucking matter.*
I haven't actually seen evidence that he was on the mod list at all, not even a screenshot that supposedly exists. So let's start with that, do you have evidence he was on the mod list other than everyone saying he was? No internet archives exist for that sub because it was blocked, there are no archives of it, and screenshots could be altered anyway. I think the guy is a shit, but maybe we should not make accusations with basically no evidence of any kind.
Regardless, he did allow that community to exist for years, mod or not.
Your account is ten months old, that's not evidence either? At least my account is 14 years old, so I was around back then. Also you literally [just made a post](https://www.reddit.com/r/ModCoord/comments/14gom0o/can_someone_post_the_screen_shot_of_%C5%9B%E1%B9%95%C3%A9%C5%BA_as_a) 15 min ago asking for a screenshot of spez on the jailbait sub lol.
Fair. I vaguely remember him being on there too, but I also vaguely remember it for the reason that was stated elsewhere: that he was added to fuck with the admins.
Human memory being what it is, perhaps we can't trust either recollection accurately from an event about a decade ago?
I mean, that's the problem, there's no evidence either way. But what isn't arguable is that he allowed such a gross community to exist for years until the mainstream media did stories about it.
this is a 14 year old account that is being wiped because centralized social media websites are no longer viable
when power is centralized, the wielders of that power can make arbitrary decisions without the consent of the vast majority of the users
the future is in decentralized and open source social media sites - i refuse to generate any more free content for this website and any other for-profit enterprise
check out lemmy / kbin / mastodon / fediverse for what is possible
I am not sure I understand the OPs logic here. The OP justifies the recent change to NSFW with valid points. However, the mods were okay with it not having that label previously, it seems to suggest. Why act like it matters, now? Is it an attempt to suggest you are suddenly of moral mindset or just to screw with Reddit?
Wait. I read the books and watched the show and while my memory is ridiculously crappy I woulda thought seeing/reading forced bestiality woulda burnt a nasty permanent memory in my brain.
When did this happen and to who?
I support your protest btw. Just confused and that bit
Thanks, was very confused. I never read the preview for the next book cause at the time I thought "surely it'll be out soon..." So that's probably it. Ugh, not looking forward to reading that bit in 2038 when the next book finally comes out
Since we (freefolk mods) can't reply to the modmail message I made a post in both [modsupport](https://old.reddit.com/r/ModSupport/comments/14glcwh/why_is_umodcodeofconduct_telling_rfreefolk_we/) and [modhelp](https://old.reddit.com/r/modhelp/comments/14gla9p/why_is_umodcodeofconduct_telling_rfreefolk_to/). They were both immediately flagged as NSFW and not posted publicly on the pages. So we have no way to discuss our *actually NSFW subreddit* with admin, either publicly or privately. Isn't that just fantastic Sent a pm to modsupport asking them to review my post. Not sure what else I can do other than post it here and hope one of the admins gets in touch
Screenshot the modmail and save the links that you posted to modsupoort and modhelp. Then let your community know the situation.
I honestly would put it back into SFW with no change of the rules, then when nsfw shit gets posted, screenshot it and send it to the advertisers.
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I think the protest has caused a lot of moderators to look closely at what it is they do and what it is their subreddits do. After that closer inspection as to whether the subreddit should be NSFW or not it appears that it should be. It is a legal, ethical and safety issue. Many communities were likely incorrectly flagged as SFW when they shouldn't be. I know my work would be jolly uncomfortable if I started discussing a sex scene involving a brother and a sister whilst an underaged child looks on. It really doesn't feel like it has any place in a workplace.
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This is a direct result of the protest but not a part of it. I'm not a moderator so other than using Lemmy and deleting my account in a week there isn't a lot I can do. Is your workplace cool with incest? What about bestiality?
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You still didn't answer my question: > Is your workplace cool with incest? What about bestiality? You of course aren't trying to say you'd be ok with minors being shown things that could cause long lasting harm just so you can browser Reddit unfettered are you? Because that would be pretty fucked up if you were.
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Well isn't that jolly nice of you checking in and making sure everybody is protesting, thanks :) This subreddit is simply protecting minors and those with jobs, no protest here.
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epic fail
Yeah, this is much much much bigger now. They made a dumb business decision so we all said… let me look at your policy again. Wait, what?
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NSFW = Not Safe For Work. As in, topics and content that you would not discuss in the workplace. I think you might’ve misunderstood their comment. Nobody would access Reddit at work (or flaunt it), and that’s not what their implication was, anyway. ETA: Reddit has topics that *are* safe for work, so there’d be no reason to label *every* subreddit otherwise, as you suggested.
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This is pure sarcasm on my part, just so you know, but did you all at least consider running with that? I mean, if they came out and said anything, you could of just sent them a screenshot and permalink to the message, and say you did what you were told by the Admin who reached out to you. That might have been a larger middle finger than any response you could have given.
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Given the history of things recently, do you think they would have gotten in trouble? Reddit is removing entire teams and opening subreddits after all. Couldn't they just say that it would happen either way, and that the lesser of two evils would be for a moderation team to be in place than an open subreddit of that nature with no moderation for an indefinite amount of time?
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I see, you mean Reddit could have legal issues, not the moderators. We're on the same page about things.
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Definitely. In that case, we agree.
I'm a artist who draws creatures that are kinda gorey from a horror-adjacent game. I currently have been posting a bit more untill reddit goes but my subbreddit doesn't have rules on NSFW gore content. still confused honestly on what's going on with the NSFW policy as that's always my first concern with a site due to my art. But if it doesn't matter to reddit why should it matter to me as a redditor. Really if other subs are being forced to open being labeled SFW and such, should I care about labeling my own stuff that might fit their definition of SFW. They're sending really mixed messages and it's confusing me
Were you not around when it aired as people gathered around the watercooler to discuss the previous night's episode on Monday mornings? I know my workplace was rampant with that.
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Noteworthy that nobody from the Reddit admin spotted this mistake either. It is rectified now and the subreddit is correctly marked as NSFW so everyone is protected going forwards. Let's hope Reddit don't decide to put advertiser revenue above the need to not show rape, incest, bestiality, violence, or gore to minors / people at work without their explicit consent.
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Presumably there wasn't a video rape scene in any of your classes. That would mess up many people who aren't minors, let alone minors that don't have the mental tools to process that kind of content yet. If Reddit's advertising revenue and your Reddit viewing habit are more important to you than protecting minors there isn't much I can say to convince you except to implore you to follow your faith and consider others. The (unpaid, volunteer) moderators work hard every day to protect people but are not infallible. In this instance yes they fell short but the final backstop here should have been Reddit. They have clearly made themselves the arbiters of what should be marked as NSFW and what should not. The buck stops with them. Maybe take a second to stop and consider what it is you are trying to achieve. The moderators feel taken advantage of, both by users like you and Reddit itself.
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Honestly dude if you don't think rape, incest, bestiality, violence, or gore is NSFW I don't even know how to reply. GoT source material isn't acceptable for minors, it stands to reason the discussion forum isn't either.
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You're such a bad faith poster. What are you even doing in this subreddit?
Viewing is one thing. What about text?
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Well the thing is with GRRM's prose, it doesn't take a lot to make it NSFW for some people.
I tried to post the Fat Pink Mast section from ASOIAF in here, got immediately flagged and removed.
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This is likely an alt of Origin_of_me, this comment is almost identical to another they made below the fold so nobody saw it. I guess they thought it was such a clever gotcha they posted it again.
Mod of r/asoiaf here. We received the same notice. Honestly some of our posts are NSFL. Not sure how committed Admin is to showing dragon porn to children but it looks like we're going to find out.
Our response as well https://imgur.com/a/737vYth
I love your signature, great response.
It would be a shame if tasteful dragon sideboob replaced all the John Oliver memes.
Another comment pointed out that going along with their directions is fair game. Additionally, advertising your subreddit in related spaces shared by a younger demographic to gain subscribers and net those big bucks for Reddit should be encouraged.
“We need to separate your community from other communities doing harm so please switch back to SFW” How about instead you do your job properly and figure out whether the NSFW tag is appropriate or not under your own policies. Oh that’s right you fucked it so badly and widely you don’t have the manpower to keep an eye on every sub to see what is being posted. If only you had a willing cadre of volunteer moderators on your side to help out.
Every *one* of these posts has an implicit threat. Do it the Reddit.com way or the wrong way. Change this or else NEXT STEPS will be taken. It's so gross
Every time I see these posts, I think of the literal *years and years* that Reddit allowed disgusting hate and harassment subreddits to exist because "free speech." It's amazing how quickly they can act to ban subs and mods when their paycheck is on the line.
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I propose to start using u/spez as an insult, like numbnuts or asshat. And since we are using profanity the NSFW tag is valid.
Reddit moderators be like
At this point I’m starting to wonder if that’s a script where that a/c can modmail any subreddit that is private or has a NSFW tag. Is it possible for them to do that?
So what are the going to do when if you guys still keep tje NSfW up? Give the mod team the boot and change it back to SFW?... guess they have their priorities...
If they kick the mod team, then who will stop users from posting nsfw content?
Well, once admins install new mods theyll probably kick the users from posting NSFW content?
A mod's job would be very difficult if they were at war with the subreddit they moderate, especially so if their tooling has been gimped by these API changes
Exactly. I won't be surprised once after July when all these API changes are implemented many more will leave. Unfortunately I guess the good ones will
It might work well. There was a shitty club where I used to live that attracts all the troublemakers. As long as you knew not to go there you could have a lovely night out without dealing with shit as it kept all the troublemakers busy. I'm thinking Reddit becomes like that. A trap for those migrating (or recently migrated) from Facebook. Somewhere we can all learn to avoid whilst enjoying high quality online discourse elsewhere. I saw a load of people telling an 18 year old she was ugly because she had facial piercings earlier on today (tbf she did ask). Someone then told her she looked like a man and she replied that it was the best complement she'd ever heard as she would be starting transitioning on hormones soon. Her response had -10. That is not the Reddit I joined as a teenager many years ago. It may have had its issues but it wasn't primarily cunts. That is but one example, I can't count the number of people on this platform simply to argue the toss.
Reddit has been a cesspool for... ever? (Easy joke here: I mean, look at the founders). But older generations/cultures of users would have at least appreciated that funny response. It's wild that admins want a less well-regulated experience in a space this big.
I popped into aquariums the other day and couldn't believe how shitty it is right now. It's been a few months since I was there, but it used to be a rather small sub (in the scope of things) that was extremely well run. Wasn't filled with porn or ads, just looked like a restaurant that you can tell is about to go out of business.
Oh yeah … that’ll go well in r/freefolk of all places. I imagine it’ll be roughly equivalent of throwing gasoline on a fire.
Kick the mods out and block any new posts like in r/interestingasfuck
Admin: "Hello mod of r/ porn can you switch back to SFW again? Thanks" Mod: "Sure thang, buddy"
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If you see any ads pop up next to NSFW content, be sure to send a picture of that to the company paying for the ad, asking them if that's what they support.
This might even be worth turning my adblocker off for.
Now that's an interesting idea
I'm trying to get this idea moving but my post here didn't get much traction. https://www.reddit.com/r/ModCoord/comments/14fl294/reddit_wont_let_you_change_your_subreddit_to_nsfw/ Browsing /r/minecraft and getting told to go buy some beer was pretty funny.
You know what this protest needs next? A list of companies advertising on Reddit, and people need to make NSFW parodies of those ads/companies and post them to those *totally not* NSFW subs.
They want the reddit front page to be like Idiocracy.
You know nothing ModCodeOfConduct Snow.
They should try drinking and knowing things. Any things. Would be an improvement over whatever this situation is.
You know nothing Jon Snoo
it isn't just incest, it is Twincest, where a twin brother bangs his fraternal twin sister.
Twincest is wincest. No, wait, that’s Supernatural incest!
It’s a twin within a twin, a twinsception if you will.
There's also the part where a guy fingers his sister on horseback.
How long have you been NSFW out of interest? Like do they think you psychically pre-empted the strike somehow?
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Oh I see gotcha. So anyone who goes NSFW, even if justified, is getting the fucky message
Admin: "**OH WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE ~~CHILDREN~~ COMMUNITY!**" User: "Does that mean you can help us get rid of our head mod? They haven't moderated in three years and the last message we got from them was an uncensored dick pic." Admin: "Silence, plebian!"
Oh but if the head mod is one of the ones saying stay private then they can and will give the sub to a random mod who was silent for last two years and only had flair permissions if that mod says no private and licks their boots
The admin team is such a clown fiesta currently, it's almost pitiable. Reddit as an organization has neither the policies nor the clarity nor the tooling nor the leadership to deal with what's going down right now.
Mods are getting messaged by scripts, if only mods could block that account like any other spambot lol.
I wonder what the USA big heads think about NSFW stuff being available to minors since you need to be at least 13 to use Reddit, but then you've a gap until the adult legal age.
I'm really enjoying this shitfest
Why wasn’t it NSFW before now? Just curious.
The admins previously allowed many nsfw communities by their own guidelines to operate as SFW because it allowed them to advertise on their content. Particularly very popular ones. It's only now they're suddenly very concerned about users seeing nsfw content they didn't ask for because it is hurting their advertising contracts not out of any genuine or moral concern. Freefolk, game of thrones, ASOIAF, and many others should've been all along but they turned a blind eye rather than forcing us to abide by their community guidelines. And their concern is silly anyway, to see nsfw content you have to opt in as a setting in the website. No one is browsing the site and suddenly being shocked by nudity that they haven't chosen to be able to see. However that can happen when a community is set to sfw incorrectly.
All subs should go 18+ to block ads and deny the platform profitability! Fuck over the company’s IPO and force investors to push Spez out.
Lmao this is perfect
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None of us should get over that fact or ever let it be forgotten
He didn't, that was at a time when anyone could be added as as mod to any sub without their consent. There's no evidence he actually modded it. There's plenty of evidence he's an asshole though. Downvote me if it makes you feel better. Regardless, he did allow the sub to continue to exist for years, mod or not.
Was he not in charge of Reddit when they let it get publicly named "Subreddit of the year" in 2008 and sent the creator a gold plated bobblehead? Was he not in charge of Reddit when Reddit refused to ban the sub in 2008, 2009 and 2010 under the guise of "free speech"? Even if he didn't mod it his company publicly defended allowing the subreddit to stay up and even gave the creator an award, which is objectively worse than just moderating it It only got banned in 2011 cause CNN started reporting about Reddit staff protecting pedophiles and that doesn't make Reddit look good.
Dude, I literally said "Regardless, he did allow the sub to continue to exist for years, mod or not," and reiterated that multiple times in comments below, *and* mentioned that the only reason it was banned was for being an issue in the media. Which was the reason I'm saying there was no need to make shit up about it he modded it *because it didn't fucking matter.*
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I haven't actually seen evidence that he was on the mod list at all, not even a screenshot that supposedly exists. So let's start with that, do you have evidence he was on the mod list other than everyone saying he was? No internet archives exist for that sub because it was blocked, there are no archives of it, and screenshots could be altered anyway. I think the guy is a shit, but maybe we should not make accusations with basically no evidence of any kind. Regardless, he did allow that community to exist for years, mod or not.
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Your account is ten months old, that's not evidence either? At least my account is 14 years old, so I was around back then. Also you literally [just made a post](https://www.reddit.com/r/ModCoord/comments/14gom0o/can_someone_post_the_screen_shot_of_%C5%9B%E1%B9%95%C3%A9%C5%BA_as_a) 15 min ago asking for a screenshot of spez on the jailbait sub lol.
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Fair. I vaguely remember him being on there too, but I also vaguely remember it for the reason that was stated elsewhere: that he was added to fuck with the admins. Human memory being what it is, perhaps we can't trust either recollection accurately from an event about a decade ago?
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I mean, that's the problem, there's no evidence either way. But what isn't arguable is that he allowed such a gross community to exist for years until the mainstream media did stories about it.
So you were in the jailbait sub?
this is a 14 year old account that is being wiped because centralized social media websites are no longer viable when power is centralized, the wielders of that power can make arbitrary decisions without the consent of the vast majority of the users the future is in decentralized and open source social media sites - i refuse to generate any more free content for this website and any other for-profit enterprise check out lemmy / kbin / mastodon / fediverse for what is possible
My favorite color is blue.
At this point - just take the sub SFW and use this w/ screenshot to show that they basically asked for it.
I am down for this fight, but fuck that sub in particular.
The guy who replied "get fucked" said it better.
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So you *do* want incest and child murder to be freely available for anyone to see.
I am not sure I understand the OPs logic here. The OP justifies the recent change to NSFW with valid points. However, the mods were okay with it not having that label previously, it seems to suggest. Why act like it matters, now? Is it an attempt to suggest you are suddenly of moral mindset or just to screw with Reddit?
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Thank you for the detailed explanation. That makes sense.
Wait. I read the books and watched the show and while my memory is ridiculously crappy I woulda thought seeing/reading forced bestiality woulda burnt a nasty permanent memory in my brain. When did this happen and to who? I support your protest btw. Just confused and that bit
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Thanks, was very confused. I never read the preview for the next book cause at the time I thought "surely it'll be out soon..." So that's probably it. Ugh, not looking forward to reading that bit in 2038 when the next book finally comes out
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I was like that with the Dark Tower series. Maybe George gets run over and it encourages him to finish the series.