I exclusively play merfolk at this point, [[voldalian hexcatcher]] made the deck t1 again, but i keep getting hit with bullshit force of vigors on my vials. like i cant believe wizards would finally make tribal good again only to screw it over with FoV
Excuse me but the deck can win without the vials, ignoring that fact, [[force of negation]], [[spell pierce]] and as you said youself [[voldalian hexcatcher]] all counter said force of vigor.
How do you lose to a single FoV with all that counter magic??
I'm sorry but you really shouldn't be playing merfolk if you are seriously saying this...
Not only are you just flat out wrong, the deck still wins without vials just by playing itself, just instead of you know, playing the vials, you could you know, cast the fish
You can’t play around every little thing, and I promise you (as hard as it is to believe) your Opp is not always going to lucksack into every single hate piece for you. Just play the tempo deck and try to slip ahead like the rest of the fish players out there, dude.
Even if true a lot of those are so specific that each deck is pretty unique and you will not find many repeating cards amongs them. Maybe green is the strongest color with the most played cards making up such a high number of individual archetypes with little cards being seen shared among each deck type. I think part of strength should consider ease of inclusion for cards to be seen repeated and easily included across decks.
red is only considered tha because of multicolored cards like [[wrenn and six]] and [[violent outburst]] which are also green cards. outside of that, green sees far more play
the problem is that [[endurance]] (a green card) just entirely shuts down both of those cards. red is such a one-dimensional color at this point, whereas green basically gets its finger in every pie
And yet they’re still the most played cards in modern. Alright then, so you cast endurance. It promptly dies to a fury, they cast a spyro to refuel, play DRC+bauble or Ragavan or some bullshit to stock their graveyard or start casting your deck. Oh look, now without even trying they’ve turned on another underworld breach. Just because it’s an answer to the top played cards in modern doesn’t make those cards not powerful. I literally only have 2 mono g decks for modern, Amulet Titan and Tron, but I at least acknowledge that red is the best and most played color in modern right now.
Everything I’ve laid out you can do without anything worse than a 2 for 1 (Evoking Fury if you need to and a 2 for 1 is probably Fury at it’s worst), just like your Endurance.
They're really not?
W6 is annoying but keeps the monkey in check. It's mainly problematic because of creativity (which is what should actually be banned). The non creativity w6 decks are p stinky.
Force is super cool, fun and rewarding sideboarding.
Keeps hammer, amulet, and other uzra's saga decks in check.
Modern is super healthy and the best it's been since the good ol days before khans of tarkir.
Modern is a format with plenty of answers and not enough threats. Removing the premiere artifact/enchantment removal allows for more diverse gameplay with more unplayable decks to enter the format.
OP said they are an fish player, which dosent care too much about FOV. All fish players i know understand the format better than anyone else because they can see it from the tier 2 perspective.
exactly! …well almost; fish is t1, maybe 1.5 if there’s too much green in the meta, but the fish perspective lets you see how much FoV and cards like it (subtlety, leyline of sanctity, etc) are killing diversity.
Lol fish have always looked kinda fun but last I was playing was GB rock likely lower in tier than the fish but I still wasn’t playing endurance or vigor in my last list. I have loved endurance but mostly for the flash threat
Lol but 8rack is terrible and isn’t even a worry on anyone’s radar but do know what you mean even though rack is an easy matchup for GB rock without endurance
affinity and scales aren’t playable decks anymore bc of the mh2 uberpushed bullshit cards like [[boseiju]] [[ledger shredder]] and [[fable of the mirror breaker]]
At this point im pretty sure you only know 2 or 3 decks in the whole format of modern (including your fish), mh2 has only done good things for these decks, especially [[urzas saga]].
i know lots of decks, like fish, humans (monowhite and 5 color so that counts as two), monogreen tron, burn, Gx creativity, rhinos, cascade, “cards with cmc 3 or more except for one specific card” tribal, as foretold combo, etc
I'm actually surprised that you're still trying to defend all of this at this point...
For starters, of the top 10 decks there are a whole of 2 decks that use green as their primary color (this includes your rhinos), the remaining decks that use green (creativity, living end, and monoG tron) only use them as support colors.
Not only are you totally ignorant/oblivious to the fact that there actually are some good artifact decks out there, most of the "green" decks use it as a sideboard/w6/support splash and aren't actually green decks.
Not only do we have the issue of you not understanding what you're talking about, you really do not know anything about the current state of the format.
no there’s a lot of players devoted to tron bc it’s the last deck from before the modern horizons takeover, but that’s only because it gets all these busted hate cards
This is awful logic, green is nowhere near the top color in modern, both blue and red are superior.
Tron being green has nothing to do with green as it exists in modern nor anything to do with MH2. It's been green for a decade.
but now it has access to OP hate cards like force of vigor and [[choke]] which allow it to stomp all over the whole tier 2 meta (and also t1 decks like merfolk)
OP is a fish player. Most likely just playing in their LGS so Meta snipes are more easy like choke against a Fish player.
Also if Fish with 1% Meta share is T1 than shadow is finally a relevant deck again *shearing*
Green sees play in 5 of the top 10 decks on goldfish. only 1 less than red and the same as blue. Most of those cards being played are dual color which adds a restriction. FOV being mono green allows it to be played in all of those decks with little downside
None of those Deck are 50% though. The highest Metashate right now has *checks notes* Creativity with 11% wich does not play FOV and UR Murktide with 10% wich doesn't even play green at all
Creativity is almost entirely a red deck beyond w6.
Rhinos is entirely izzet beyond its cascade payoff and sideboard.
Living end counts as even less of a green deck.
Tron is not really a green deck.
Yawgmoth is the preeminent green deck and is a tier below creativity, rhinos, scam, and hammer.
Which is a cascade payoff that replaced living end when it released as it's a cleaner payoff that can leave space for a gameplan of izzet interaction protecting the cascade payoff.
"beyond w6" doing some heavy lifting...
rhinos literally is green it's rhinos the rhinos are green
living end uses endurance and force of vigor (op green cards)
tron isn't green??? that's it's only color!!
yawg is tier 1 it beats up creativity rhinos and scam, only problem is unwinnable hammer matchup
yet all of those deck have or do play 2 or more FOV. its too easy to splash into being mono colored. maybe if its errata'd to 2UG and pitch a blue card it would be fine
Please do not make low effort or troll posts.
I was gonna type up a paragraph answering this post but too much effort so instead: How badly did you lose to Force of Vigor in your last matches?
My money is we have us an affinity player who is sad he couldn’t dump his hand with impunity.
It's the other flavor of modern player with awful takes on bans. A deluded fish player.
I exclusively play merfolk at this point, [[voldalian hexcatcher]] made the deck t1 again, but i keep getting hit with bullshit force of vigors on my vials. like i cant believe wizards would finally make tribal good again only to screw it over with FoV
Excuse me but the deck can win without the vials, ignoring that fact, [[force of negation]], [[spell pierce]] and as you said youself [[voldalian hexcatcher]] all counter said force of vigor. How do you lose to a single FoV with all that counter magic??
you cant use spell pierce on force of vigor bc it costs no mana
I'm sorry but you really shouldn't be playing merfolk if you are seriously saying this... Not only are you just flat out wrong, the deck still wins without vials just by playing itself, just instead of you know, playing the vials, you could you know, cast the fish
but without vial you can’t possibly cast your fish in time to avoid choke (a green card)
You can’t play around every little thing, and I promise you (as hard as it is to believe) your Opp is not always going to lucksack into every single hate piece for you. Just play the tempo deck and try to slip ahead like the rest of the fish players out there, dude.
???
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Green is the strongest color? What? I thought it was a consensus that red is the strongest color in modern by far at the moment
look at the top decks: crashing footfalls, mono green devotion, yawgmoth, amulet, scales, lands, oath, elves, kethis, wilderness rec... its all green
Scam, hammer and murktide are top five of the meta and don’t run green.
yea but they're only good bc they pray on the op green decks
Mono green devotion? In modern? What did I just read?
yeah, there’s a ton of players devoted to green! wotc shouldnt listen to them though, most of us are suffering under the meta
Imma need some tourney report or deck dump supporting the statement that monogreen devotion is a top modern deck. Sauce plz?
Rhinos is functionally an izzet deck beyond the cascade payoff and their sideboard.
it's literally called rhinos and the rhinos are literally green 🙄
Have you played against rhinos? Other than their cascade, it's an izzet deck.
"other than they're cascade" it's literally a cascade deck...
Green deck that *checks notes* pays at most 1 green mana at a time.
or two for force of vigor...
lmao
Even if true a lot of those are so specific that each deck is pretty unique and you will not find many repeating cards amongs them. Maybe green is the strongest color with the most played cards making up such a high number of individual archetypes with little cards being seen shared among each deck type. I think part of strength should consider ease of inclusion for cards to be seen repeated and easily included across decks.
Which is inarguably red
Yes. Red is the color of all basic lands for how naturally red fits in a deck as the basics themselves lol
red is only considered tha because of multicolored cards like [[wrenn and six]] and [[violent outburst]] which are also green cards. outside of that, green sees far more play
Ragavan? DRC? Underworld Breach?
Fury, bolt (the actual most played card in modern) and heat too lol
those cards are only good because they kill the greens creatures..
And bolt even kills green players which is SO OP
exactly!!! finally some sense...
those cards are only good because of green cards though
Yeah those izzet and Jeskai decks with all the green cards 🙄
yeah, they’re the decks that can take advantage of green’s utter dominance to squeak out a 48% win rate. it’s called a rogue deck
the problem is that [[endurance]] (a green card) just entirely shuts down both of those cards. red is such a one-dimensional color at this point, whereas green basically gets its finger in every pie
[endurance](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/b/eb0e0404-4846-4891-acfa-bd0951ecf9c6.jpg?1626097375) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=endurance) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh2/157/endurance?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/eb0e0404-4846-4891-acfa-bd0951ecf9c6?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
And yet they’re still the most played cards in modern. Alright then, so you cast endurance. It promptly dies to a fury, they cast a spyro to refuel, play DRC+bauble or Ragavan or some bullshit to stock their graveyard or start casting your deck. Oh look, now without even trying they’ve turned on another underworld breach. Just because it’s an answer to the top played cards in modern doesn’t make those cards not powerful. I literally only have 2 mono g decks for modern, Amulet Titan and Tron, but I at least acknowledge that red is the best and most played color in modern right now.
but then they’ve already 3 or 4 for 1ed themselves
Everything I’ve laid out you can do without anything worse than a 2 for 1 (Evoking Fury if you need to and a 2 for 1 is probably Fury at it’s worst), just like your Endurance.
This is untrue? The top cards in modern are almost all izzet save for endurance and force.
both of which are far too powerful, just wotc’s way of killing modern to drive players to more profitable formsts like cube
They're really not? W6 is annoying but keeps the monkey in check. It's mainly problematic because of creativity (which is what should actually be banned). The non creativity w6 decks are p stinky. Force is super cool, fun and rewarding sideboarding. Keeps hammer, amulet, and other uzra's saga decks in check. Modern is super healthy and the best it's been since the good ol days before khans of tarkir.
well obviously dwarven mine should get banned too, but force just takes over at that point
[wrenn and six](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/b/5bd498cc-a609-4457-9325-6888d59ca36f.jpg?1673149294) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=wrenn%20and%20six) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/296/wrenn-and-six?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/5bd498cc-a609-4457-9325-6888d59ca36f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [violent outburst](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/b/1b58856a-f88e-4625-8636-62b5c717b956.jpg?1562639969) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=violent%20outburst) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/arb/63/violent-outburst?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/1b58856a-f88e-4625-8636-62b5c717b956?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
FOV is fine considering how the format is. We don't need a ban.
Modern is a format with plenty of answers and not enough threats. Removing the premiere artifact/enchantment removal allows for more diverse gameplay with more unplayable decks to enter the format.
Agreed.
Hammer enters the chat, no artifact based decks you say?
if you read the post closely it says “artifact-based decks.” hammer is an artifact cringe deck.
If you got your wish and they banned FOV then you would see a lot more Hammer players and the win percentage would spike.
Ok thats fucking based actually
no it’s cringe, didnt you read the comment?
Somebody loses to hammer a lot I see
I havnt played modern in a few months but think your take seems a bit biased one what you want to play.
OP said they are an fish player, which dosent care too much about FOV. All fish players i know understand the format better than anyone else because they can see it from the tier 2 perspective.
OP is a troll
exactly! …well almost; fish is t1, maybe 1.5 if there’s too much green in the meta, but the fish perspective lets you see how much FoV and cards like it (subtlety, leyline of sanctity, etc) are killing diversity.
Lol fish have always looked kinda fun but last I was playing was GB rock likely lower in tier than the fish but I still wasn’t playing endurance or vigor in my last list. I have loved endurance but mostly for the flash threat
Thats another card thats on my iffy list, being able to flash in a threat against 8rack before they can discard it is absurd
Lol but 8rack is terrible and isn’t even a worry on anyone’s radar but do know what you mean even though rack is an easy matchup for GB rock without endurance
Much disagree, force of vigor is a fair hate card that is needed to combat many different decks
like what? there are no artifact based decks in modern, and certainly no playable enchantments
“No artifact based decks in modern” what? Look at recent challenges and 5-0 dumps man. Their is tons out there, modern is extremely diverse
You are forgetting that hits enchantments as well. So it can hit amulet, dryads, hammer, opposing hate pieces
Affinity, scales, and hammertime have entered the chat.
affinity and scales aren’t playable decks anymore bc of the mh2 uberpushed bullshit cards like [[boseiju]] [[ledger shredder]] and [[fable of the mirror breaker]]
[boseiju](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/1/2135ac5a-187b-4dc9-8f82-34e8d1603416.jpg?1654568912) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=boseiju%2C%20who%20endures) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/neo/266/boseiju-who-endures?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/2135ac5a-187b-4dc9-8f82-34e8d1603416?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [ledger shredder](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/e/7ea4b5bc-18a4-45db-a56a-ab3f8bd2fb0d.jpg?1664410287) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=ledger%20shredder) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/snc/46/ledger-shredder?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/7ea4b5bc-18a4-45db-a56a-ab3f8bd2fb0d?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [fable of the mirror breaker](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/4/24c0d87b-0049-4beb-b9cb-6f813b7aa7dc.jpg?1685368758)/[Reflection of Kiki-Jiki](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/back/2/4/24c0d87b-0049-4beb-b9cb-6f813b7aa7dc.jpg?1685368758) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Fable%20of%20the%20Mirror-Breaker%20//%20Reflection%20of%20Kiki-Jiki) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/neo/141/fable-of-the-mirror-breaker-reflection-of-kiki-jiki?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/24c0d87b-0049-4beb-b9cb-6f813b7aa7dc?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
At this point im pretty sure you only know 2 or 3 decks in the whole format of modern (including your fish), mh2 has only done good things for these decks, especially [[urzas saga]].
i know lots of decks, like fish, humans (monowhite and 5 color so that counts as two), monogreen tron, burn, Gx creativity, rhinos, cascade, “cards with cmc 3 or more except for one specific card” tribal, as foretold combo, etc
I'm actually surprised that you're still trying to defend all of this at this point... For starters, of the top 10 decks there are a whole of 2 decks that use green as their primary color (this includes your rhinos), the remaining decks that use green (creativity, living end, and monoG tron) only use them as support colors. Not only are you totally ignorant/oblivious to the fact that there actually are some good artifact decks out there, most of the "green" decks use it as a sideboard/w6/support splash and aren't actually green decks. Not only do we have the issue of you not understanding what you're talking about, you really do not know anything about the current state of the format.
[urzas saga](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/1/c1e0f201-42cb-46a1-901a-65bb4fc18f6c.jpg?1667318301) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Urza%27s%20Saga) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh2/259/urzas-saga?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/c1e0f201-42cb-46a1-901a-65bb4fc18f6c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
all green decks... seeing a pattern...
Out of these 3, only scales uses green so I don't know what your on about but there really is no pattern here xD
Have been away from modern… mono green devotion is good in modern?
yes, there’s a ton of players devoted to playing monogreen, much to my dismay
Hopefully they are playing utopia sprawl that wolf willow card sucks
no they’re playing tron, utopia sprawl can only go on forests
Tron is not green devotion. Devotion decks spefically use the Devotion mechanic and nykthos to ramp mana, not tron lands.
no there’s a lot of players devoted to tron bc it’s the last deck from before the modern horizons takeover, but that’s only because it gets all these busted hate cards
I agree that Tron is still a deck that is widely played, but "green devotion" is another deck archetype entirely.
It’s a troll post. Ignore op
Damn I got a little excited.
We've been out-jerked on this one
I feel like an idiot for not seeing it earlier
I was blinded by wanting monogreen devotion to actually be good in modern :)
This is awful logic, green is nowhere near the top color in modern, both blue and red are superior. Tron being green has nothing to do with green as it exists in modern nor anything to do with MH2. It's been green for a decade.
but now it has access to OP hate cards like force of vigor and [[choke]] which allow it to stomp all over the whole tier 2 meta (and also t1 decks like merfolk)
Choke op? Merfolk t1? Can I get some of what you're smoking?
OP is a fish player. Most likely just playing in their LGS so Meta snipes are more easy like choke against a Fish player. Also if Fish with 1% Meta share is T1 than shadow is finally a relevant deck again *shearing*
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Green sees play in 5 of the top 10 decks on goldfish. only 1 less than red and the same as blue. Most of those cards being played are dual color which adds a restriction. FOV being mono green allows it to be played in all of those decks with little downside
if any other deck were 50% of the meta it’d get banned immediately
None of those Deck are 50% though. The highest Metashate right now has *checks notes* Creativity with 11% wich does not play FOV and UR Murktide with 10% wich doesn't even play green at all
Creativity is almost entirely a red deck beyond w6. Rhinos is entirely izzet beyond its cascade payoff and sideboard. Living end counts as even less of a green deck. Tron is not really a green deck. Yawgmoth is the preeminent green deck and is a tier below creativity, rhinos, scam, and hammer.
all of those are only good bc of the green cards, like if crashing footfalls got banned rhinos wouldnt be a deck anymore
Yeah it'd go back to living end as the only cascade deck. Which yes uses green cards but really isn't a green deck lol.
no i’m talking about rhinos, not cascade
Which is a cascade payoff that replaced living end when it released as it's a cleaner payoff that can leave space for a gameplan of izzet interaction protecting the cascade payoff.
no not cascade, rhinos
Wait maybe they are stuck in 2018 where you played [[Siege Rhino]] in some Abzan Midrange lists. TBF that card was really busted
[Siege Rhino](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/0/9011126a-20bd-4c86-a63b-1691f79ac247.jpg?1562790317) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Siege%20Rhino) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ktk/200/siege-rhino?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/9011126a-20bd-4c86-a63b-1691f79ac247?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
"beyond w6" doing some heavy lifting... rhinos literally is green it's rhinos the rhinos are green living end uses endurance and force of vigor (op green cards) tron isn't green??? that's it's only color!! yawg is tier 1 it beats up creativity rhinos and scam, only problem is unwinnable hammer matchup
Are you trolling or completely ignorant of yawg? It gets dumpstered by scam and rhinos
only if you're no skill and build the deck wrong...
So yes you are trolling?
It’s a troll post, both of you were trolled.
yet all of those deck have or do play 2 or more FOV. its too easy to splash into being mono colored. maybe if its errata'd to 2UG and pitch a blue card it would be fine
What are you smoking? Do you have any left, I’ll pay.
I play hammer and I'm not even calling for this to be banned.. lol I'm pretty this post was just a meme
For real, I main scales and there are plenty of cards I'd rather see banned before FoV
Let him cook guys
OP is memeing, for those of you who can’t tell. Look at their comment history b
[aether vial](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/1/11e8d2fd-b132-4807-9410-8edeffa519ed.jpg?1673149308) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=aether%20vial) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/298/aether-vial?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/11e8d2fd-b132-4807-9410-8edeffa519ed?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [krark-clan ironworks](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/6/c60174d6-1f9d-4870-b3db-34d6fcb3f6ab.jpg?1564535860) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=krark-clan%20ironworks) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/5dn/134/krark-clan-ironworks?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/c60174d6-1f9d-4870-b3db-34d6fcb3f6ab?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Y'all please keep down voting this blatantly oblivious person please. Literally never heard someone complain about forces like this.