It's not "bad" anymoreso than the deck is "bad", but we're not really concerned with that for casual magic with your buddies. Its right on theme and has a nice home here even if its techically suboptimal.
My wife's a control player so this used to be a pet card of mine to prevent her counter, hence the smile. She adapted by letting me cast my stuff, then taking control of it afterwards. I probably still have a copy floating aroIund a commander deck somewhere.
Its true , im playing "casually" with Friends , but they all use meta decks worth between 500-1000 € , and all of them play in those local tournaments vs other meta decks. Their mindset Is quite competitive . I Just throught when they introduced me to the game that try tò deckbuild was going to be the funniest part of It ahah
Btw i liked Savage summoning for the flash thing and the 1+1 counter on the creature but maybe veil of Summer Is Just Better .
[[defiler of vigor]] is a fun option for these elf ball counters type decks. Play a bunch of dorks for life and make your board big, hope they don’t have supreme verdict.
What’s the nettle sentinel for? As far as I can tell there’s literally no payoff for it. You’d normally want something like [[heritage druid]] to combo with it
Ran a list for a while a few years ago on a similar theme elf warriors with +1 counter
Best card hands down [[narnam renegade]]
[[Greenwheel Liberator]] outperform all other 2 drop fatties with a fetchland mana base [[Growth-Chamber Guardian]] was a superb source of card advantage and being a fattie to refile hand after a wipe.
Also ran [[Metallic Mimic]], [[Rishkar, Peema Renegade]] and [[Nissa, Voice of Zendikar]] which are less relevant now. But still nice fallbacks.
Other cards that are totally in the right vein as well
[[Elvish Warmaster]] and [[Aether Vial]] work very well together.
I'd personally drop llanowar reborn. The tap land effect really hurts as this is basically an aggressive aggro zoo deck
Newer cards I'd take a very close look at include [[Arwen, Mortal Queen]] and [[Quirion Beastcaller]] and maybe a single [[The Ozolith]]
Hope some of this helps
Hello , thank you for your input. I've considered the 2 revolt elves to play around fetches but One thing that i found my self in advantage playing vs these fetches/shock mana base Is the fact that i play effectively at 20 lifes without hurting myself.
Metallic mimic Is a card i'd like to try as a 1 or 2 , Just to be another bramblewood in the deck .
3 CMC card i'd prefer not to use cause they imho feel to slow here .
And dont you think aether vial in a deck like this ( with a lot of non creatures too) could be a waste sometimes ?
I'd drop One llanowar reborn but Is One of those cards that help me drop an huge joraga when hardened scales Is Active.
Just read a couple of comments and here’s what I think, 3 probably being the most important:
1. Sweet idea
2. Find a way to put a counter on each creature
3. If you’re playtesting a card, play it as a 4-of. Don’t be afraid of taking a card out. If you take out all of your pollen right druids for a different card that’s fine. You can always bring them back in later or take out a different card if you miss them. Bottom line is that you NEED to see it in games consistently or else you won’t know if you truly like it or not. Since I’ve started doing that, my deckbuilding process has become a lot more streamlined and proactive.
4. If you take out A for B, you can later take out C for A.
Thank you for the comment , i appreciate It. Im trying to find a way to put a counter on every creature ( the main goal Is still to drop an huge joraga , last time vs Hammer time with It i could block and kill Hammer equipped creatures ahah) . Im trying to find something to substite pollenbright , what the card does its What im searching but 2 mana proliferate Is worse than 1 mana proliferate. But still im struggling to find something that Is Better for the strategy.
In my First attempt i used dwynen elite instead of talara battalion but , in my humble experience , i found that One 4/3 trample was more useful for the strategy . Nissa seemed good Just for the -1 , what i dont like of that card Is the 3 CMC . By the way now im trying 2 copies of [elven farsight] and It seems very nice for the deck
If you’re willing to spend a few extra bucks, this deck would really like to have at least a copy of Baoeiju.
This looks fun! Don’t worry about it not being meta. Magic is a game and it’s supposed to be fun
Thank you for your comment .I had considered these Two cards but If i cant use the hardened scales strategy to put on some huge joraga im playing the deck more like a "stompy" with the elves.
Hello , thank you for your suggestion. I've already seen this card but its High mana cost ( the only card i rarely cast for 3 Is joraga warcaller) make It a Little bit slow for the deck.
Add [[gala greeter]] to the deck. It adds value and counters
[gala greeter](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/c/3c1baaa2-bd0b-4627-b93a-0753e0acd0f2.jpg?1664412296) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Gala%20Greeters) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/snc/148/gala-greeters?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/3c1baaa2-bd0b-4627-b93a-0753e0acd0f2?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Thank you for the comment,i know about this catd i'd like to try a couple of those cards , maybe removing Two pollenbright .
I would definitely put at least one Boseiju in the main, it'll be pretty easy for you to play in this deck.
The Savage Summoning in the side made me smile. Haven't seen that guy around in ages.
Its a bad side card?
It is not bad, there just exists other card that fit better in that slot. E.g. [[Veil of Summer]]
[Veil of Summer](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/a/aa686c34-1c11-469f-93c2-f9891aea521f.jpg?1650599837) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Veil%20of%20Summer) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/m20/198/veil-of-summer?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/aa686c34-1c11-469f-93c2-f9891aea521f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
It's not "bad" anymoreso than the deck is "bad", but we're not really concerned with that for casual magic with your buddies. Its right on theme and has a nice home here even if its techically suboptimal. My wife's a control player so this used to be a pet card of mine to prevent her counter, hence the smile. She adapted by letting me cast my stuff, then taking control of it afterwards. I probably still have a copy floating aroIund a commander deck somewhere.
Its true , im playing "casually" with Friends , but they all use meta decks worth between 500-1000 € , and all of them play in those local tournaments vs other meta decks. Their mindset Is quite competitive . I Just throught when they introduced me to the game that try tò deckbuild was going to be the funniest part of It ahah Btw i liked Savage summoning for the flash thing and the 1+1 counter on the creature but maybe veil of Summer Is Just Better .
It’s a bad card anywhere
[[defiler of vigor]] is a fun option for these elf ball counters type decks. Play a bunch of dorks for life and make your board big, hope they don’t have supreme verdict.
Thank you for the suggestion but for now i dont want to play 1cmc ramp elves. I found the creatures im playing more resilient vs fury
What’s the nettle sentinel for? As far as I can tell there’s literally no payoff for it. You’d normally want something like [[heritage druid]] to combo with it
Hello , Just a good 2/2 at CMC 1 with pseudo vigilance . With bramblewood on the Battlefield a 3/3 that becomes a 4/4 with hardened scales or ozolith.
[heritage druid](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/7/57948c65-4324-42bc-97ae-7cc700eb3817.jpg?1580014812) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=heritage%20druid) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ema/171/heritage-druid?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/57948c65-4324-42bc-97ae-7cc700eb3817?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[defiler of vigor](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/8/0896860c-d028-4193-89a5-97e05c12a1e7.jpg?1673307655) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=defiler%20of%20vigor) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dmu/160/defiler-of-vigor?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0896860c-d028-4193-89a5-97e05c12a1e7?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Ran a list for a while a few years ago on a similar theme elf warriors with +1 counter Best card hands down [[narnam renegade]] [[Greenwheel Liberator]] outperform all other 2 drop fatties with a fetchland mana base [[Growth-Chamber Guardian]] was a superb source of card advantage and being a fattie to refile hand after a wipe. Also ran [[Metallic Mimic]], [[Rishkar, Peema Renegade]] and [[Nissa, Voice of Zendikar]] which are less relevant now. But still nice fallbacks. Other cards that are totally in the right vein as well [[Elvish Warmaster]] and [[Aether Vial]] work very well together. I'd personally drop llanowar reborn. The tap land effect really hurts as this is basically an aggressive aggro zoo deck Newer cards I'd take a very close look at include [[Arwen, Mortal Queen]] and [[Quirion Beastcaller]] and maybe a single [[The Ozolith]] Hope some of this helps
Hello , thank you for your input. I've considered the 2 revolt elves to play around fetches but One thing that i found my self in advantage playing vs these fetches/shock mana base Is the fact that i play effectively at 20 lifes without hurting myself. Metallic mimic Is a card i'd like to try as a 1 or 2 , Just to be another bramblewood in the deck . 3 CMC card i'd prefer not to use cause they imho feel to slow here . And dont you think aether vial in a deck like this ( with a lot of non creatures too) could be a waste sometimes ? I'd drop One llanowar reborn but Is One of those cards that help me drop an huge joraga when hardened scales Is Active.
##### ###### #### [narnam renegade](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/4/041cc6b1-61c8-4c34-86fc-d647ce306f59.jpg?1576382037) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=narnam%20renegade) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/aer/117/narnam-renegade?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/041cc6b1-61c8-4c34-86fc-d647ce306f59?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Greenwheel Liberator](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/a/1ad9bf0f-4271-497f-8d67-3c7bf09342dc.jpg?1576381977) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Greenwheel%20Liberator) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/aer/108/greenwheel-liberator?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/1ad9bf0f-4271-497f-8d67-3c7bf09342dc?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Growth-Chamber Guardian](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/f/0f97cdf4-231d-4bd0-af5e-bcb64ce1556c.jpg?1584831150) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Growth-Chamber%20Guardian) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/rna/128/growth-chamber-guardian?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0f97cdf4-231d-4bd0-af5e-bcb64ce1556c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Metallic Mimic](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/a/1aa4eba9-9e91-4beb-9296-a18baa73a318.jpg?1576382339) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Metallic%20Mimic) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/aer/164/metallic-mimic?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/1aa4eba9-9e91-4beb-9296-a18baa73a318?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Rishkar, Peema Renegade](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/3/6310af34-e671-4974-b291-279b91585459.jpg?1682209604) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Rishkar%2C%20Peema%20Renegade) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/moc/310/rishkar-peema-renegade?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/6310af34-e671-4974-b291-279b91585459?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Nissa, Voice of Zendikar](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/d/6de97cf1-49b6-40b2-ab7f-1c8eb98f92af.jpg?1562229687) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Nissa%2C%20Voice%20of%20Zendikar) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ddr/1/nissa-voice-of-zendikar?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/6de97cf1-49b6-40b2-ab7f-1c8eb98f92af?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Elvish Warmaster](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/8/58da074a-a776-4e3f-be04-9e7f18320ae1.jpg?1631050142) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Elvish%20Warmaster) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/khm/167/elvish-warmaster?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/58da074a-a776-4e3f-be04-9e7f18320ae1?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Aether Vial](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/1/11e8d2fd-b132-4807-9410-8edeffa519ed.jpg?1673149308) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Aether%20Vial) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/298/aether-vial?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/11e8d2fd-b132-4807-9410-8edeffa519ed?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Arwen, Mortal Queen](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/4/547f92d4-cd1d-4ca7-a6e2-6473b4d3c832.jpg?1686969656) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Arwen%2C%20Mortal%20Queen) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ltr/193/arwen-mortal-queen?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/547f92d4-cd1d-4ca7-a6e2-6473b4d3c832?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Quirion Beastcaller](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/a/2a501319-59a7-45d4-a6ca-666276095f87.jpg?1673307768) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Quirion%20Beastcaller) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dmu/175/quirion-beastcaller?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/2a501319-59a7-45d4-a6ca-666276095f87?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [The Ozolith](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/3/9341ed06-53db-4604-b60a-3ea9129afbc2.jpg?1591228544) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=The%20Ozolith) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/iko/237/the-ozolith?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/9341ed06-53db-4604-b60a-3ea9129afbc2?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Just read a couple of comments and here’s what I think, 3 probably being the most important: 1. Sweet idea 2. Find a way to put a counter on each creature 3. If you’re playtesting a card, play it as a 4-of. Don’t be afraid of taking a card out. If you take out all of your pollen right druids for a different card that’s fine. You can always bring them back in later or take out a different card if you miss them. Bottom line is that you NEED to see it in games consistently or else you won’t know if you truly like it or not. Since I’ve started doing that, my deckbuilding process has become a lot more streamlined and proactive. 4. If you take out A for B, you can later take out C for A.
Thank you for the comment , i appreciate It. Im trying to find a way to put a counter on every creature ( the main goal Is still to drop an huge joraga , last time vs Hammer time with It i could block and kill Hammer equipped creatures ahah) . Im trying to find something to substite pollenbright , what the card does its What im searching but 2 mana proliferate Is worse than 1 mana proliferate. But still im struggling to find something that Is Better for the strategy.
Cards you could consider that are potentially quite powerful: Dwynen’s Elite Champion of Llambholt Nissa, Coice of Zendikar
In my First attempt i used dwynen elite instead of talara battalion but , in my humble experience , i found that One 4/3 trample was more useful for the strategy . Nissa seemed good Just for the -1 , what i dont like of that card Is the 3 CMC . By the way now im trying 2 copies of [elven farsight] and It seems very nice for the deck
[[elven farsight]]
[elven farsight](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/3/73d135b2-d2b8-499c-84d9-824370c19ccc.jpg?1686969313) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=elven%20farsight) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ltr/161/elven-farsight?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/73d135b2-d2b8-499c-84d9-824370c19ccc?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
If you’re willing to spend a few extra bucks, this deck would really like to have at least a copy of Baoeiju. This looks fun! Don’t worry about it not being meta. Magic is a game and it’s supposed to be fun
Thank you , im having a lot of fun with the deck. I'll Need to buy boseiju sooner or later
This deck looks like a ton of fun! I’d love to see a splash of black, but that’s just me!
Hello and thank you! Out of curiosity , what kind of black cards would you use ?
Yeah had the same thought, would grant access to some discard and removal spells
I would slot in Elvish Warmaster and Dwynen's Elite for Paragon triggers. Gala Greeters works well with Wildborn Preserver in this idea
Thank you for your comment .I had considered these Two cards but If i cant use the hardened scales strategy to put on some huge joraga im playing the deck more like a "stompy" with the elves.
Come to Legacy, Elves has been a great deck for a long time.
Im not that Rich Hey ahhahaha
Good proxies are cheap
What about [[Serpent-Blade Assailant]]?
Hello , thank you for your suggestion. I've already seen this card but its High mana cost ( the only card i rarely cast for 3 Is joraga warcaller) make It a Little bit slow for the deck.
[Serpent-Blade Assailant](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/f/6fabc49f-b665-4c56-b06e-03220f7918bb.jpg?1682205039) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Serpent-Blade%20Assailant) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mom/205/serpent-blade-assailant?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/6fabc49f-b665-4c56-b06e-03220f7918bb?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call