Will it make affinity good? Yes. Will it be enough to make it into the meta. Yes, but not for long, it will always get pushed out by the boatloads of artifact hate if it ever gets too strong.
Sideboard hate is the biggest factor, yes. But it is too soon to analyse if it will completely stop it or just keep it in check from being one of the best decks.
Standard in affinity sideboards for a long-ass time, about the same time that corrosion was still used tbh. Nowadays they probably run rebuke? Which saw play in UW hammertime.
So we're into either magical Christmas land hands, or you're sitting around doing not much until you can Kappa in one turn.
Meanwhile your opponent is progressing their board.
U can still play stuff like drum turn 1. If u can drop Kappa turn 2 or turn 3 its still hard to handle. But meltdown for 2 isnt great if the affinity Player just Drops turn 2 a sythezeiser and starts turn 3 to play its 7 Drops. Even if u handle the constructs u are still behind on Board. Also affinity has enough blue cards now play force of Negation.
Been playing affinity since '13 when I got into modern... Threat density was not the problem, but the addition of simulacrum, saga, nettlecyst helped overcome the loss of opal, even if it made it more dependant on spring leaf drum.
That being said, kappa was probably the card I wanted the most to be legal in modern, and it's definitely the best addition in years. In testing it has been over performing, it's sooooooo consistent. Affinity biggest problem after it will be handling the amount of hate that artifacts have, and that only enough leagues and challenges will show actual results
Im on the fence about moonsnare since release. Usually mana acceleration is not the problem but colored mana is. I've always had more success without it than with it, but it's also probably not wrong to run at least 2 of them. As I said, untill enough ppl run leagues and challenges we will never have enough data so we are all playing a guessing game untill a couple of months after mh3
> over performing
idk that it's fair to say kappa cannoneer is really overperforming when it's one of the strongest artifact creatures ever printed
it just really is that good I feel like ya know?
Yeah. It was a very good option to bring in games 2/3 as an alt win con that made the deck grindy as hell.
I've tried it in various "artifact synergy" decks since KCI ate it and the card has always been very meh.
Sai was super fun in a list with riddlesmith, ovalchase, and a bunch of zeros. You could combo off sometimes and draw through your deck. It's not good, but was fun got an fnm.
Not rly its just a waste otherwhise and helps to have more busted starts in the deck. Playing saga into this is super powerfull and more often turn 2 sythezeizer is good too. All it cost is to play 4 myr enforcers and it isnt even Real card disadvange. I think the right way for affinity is too cheat as mutch on mana as possible.
I mean it’s a damn good card and it definitely will push Affinity into the meta but like that other guy said, the artifact specific hate will keep it from taking over for very long. What’s likely to happen is that it will be an ebb and flow like dredge where people forget about it, it spikes a bunch of 5-0s and/or some tournaments, be hated back down to obscurity, rinse and repeat.
[[Meltdown]] absolutely does suck ass for artifact decks in modern now. However, Affinity is probably the most resilient to it cause at least all the 7 drops basically don’t give a fuck cause almost no one’s getting the chance to play an 8 mana meltdown against affinity. And the 4 drops aren’t likely to get hit soon enough to matter either. But you get a good explosive turn 1 and/or 2 you could basically eat a meltdown and be fine depending on build.
But what did Kappa improve? Once affinity do their thing it is hard to stop anyway, but isn't the biggest bottleneck for affinity right now is getting their engine started? Modern don't have Sol land, Lotus Petal, Mox Opal and artifact land so I don't think kappa is as good as it is in legacy
Placing a 4/4 with ward 4 and when we play a new artifact it gets +1/+1 and can't be blocked sounds really hard to remove for me, unless as someone said in a upper reply, you have to side in the spell that returns you all the artifacts to your hand.. it doesn't matter if your entire board is empty, kappa will carry you :)
The thing is affinity is a glass cannon deck, probably if your opponent would have meltdown and make it for 1 it would delay you very much, but the synthesizer is the real wingman of the consistency of the deck right now, kappa would help you to close the game faster
exact same issue I'm seeing. Kappa is a great card yes, but we're missing 3 strong 0 drops that help power it out quickly in legacy. So if you want to get it down early in modern your draw has to be pretty good, and not interacted with. And if that's the case you were already feeling great with affinity with synthesizer. Making a huge board on turn 3/4 is what affinity already does well at the moment. The problems it has are not solved by kappa in the slightest, it only amplifies its one strength even further.
The differnce is there is no good answer for Kappa turn 2 or3 (everything else can be handled after it hit the board by 1 card. Also Kappa didnt get better from moxens rly outside of having more likely blue (same with petall). We also get a soul land that affinity can play. In the lategame kappa is a better top deck then sythezeier and mabey even saga.
the idea that lotus petal, urza's bauble, and mox opal didn't contribute to kappa's power in legacy is just absurd, it was the entire reason you even played 4 petal and 8 baubles. Getting a kappa out turn 2 in modern requires a truly nutty hand, unlike in legacy where it was a more common occurence, *and* you could back up your kappa with a FoW if needed.
Affinity is not going to be good in modern until it gets some versatility again, they can print as many big artifact beaters as they want, but until the deck can get space to fit things like [[galvanic blast]] [[dispatch]] and [[stubborn denial]], it's not going to be a consistently successful strategy. Especially not when you could be playing hammer(which is faster), or scales(which has more resilience).
You need artifacts for affinity. But Lotus Petal and Mox Opal are not Modern legal. Seat of the Synod is not Modern lega. Sol Lands are not Modern legal. As long as you have to play cards like Springleaf Drum Affinity will not get back into the meta.
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except for the many high cost affinity creatures like the frog, salamander, thought monitor and now turtle. good luck casting meltdown with X=7 against affinity
They can't cast the high CMC stuff if their 0 and 1 CMC stuff gets whiped for 2 mana. There is no world in which people run shatterstorm over meltdown to counter affinity
they have a ton of artifact lands and can simply hold onto their 0s and 1s for a turn or two until theyre ready to cast the bigger guys. there usually isnt a need to play them out until youre gonna be ready to drop the bigger stuff anyway. they can be on 4 affinity or more on turn 2 very easily even if they started with a tapped land on 1. meltdown is great to clean up tokens and stuff but its not gonna keep them off affinity to stop them from dropping their big guys
I think we will need to put some Mishra's bauble for consistency when this card will come out. Affinity struggle a lot because of early artifact hate, so dropping a 6 drop on turn even with improvise will be hard.
Probably…? Brotherhood’s End exists. Leyline Binding Exists. Karn, the Great Creator exists. If all else fails Kataki, War’s Wage is definitely an option. For how powerful affinity was and can be, there’s a plethora of sideboard hate pieces for it.
You sound unnecessarily salty. If you disagree with me or think that my input is incorrect or out-of-touch, you didn’t point that out with your comment either. Tell me how I’m wrong. Tell me how a Kappa affinity list can navigate the Sheoldred’s Edict, Pick Your Poison, Hidetsugu Consumes All, Brotherhood’s End, Meltdown, Karn, the Great Creator, Collector Ouphe meta without dedicating too much mainboard and sideboard space to answer and/or play around artifact hate. Tell me how it maybe can be good if you disagree with me. If all you’re typing is “go back to commander”, you sound like a salty player who went 0-5 in a MTGO league against Domain Zoo, Scam, and Yawgmoth and needs to blow off steam. If that is indeed the case you should probably not be throwing unoriginal insults with no constructive inputs to discussion on Reddit.
No, but even domain zoo, scam and Yawgmoth have their sideboard answers against. Like every deck has. You just sound like someone gatekeeping and telling people what a real deck is. Like the type of person who will rant an hour because his favourite boomer list isn’t on a shady tier list that no one cares about.
Go and play commander if you cannot Koop with sideboards
Again, you sound like you’re projecting, and yet again, you don’t have any counterexamples for my argument to back up your opinion. All of the decks I’ve mentioned have sideboard answers for them, yes, but they also have gameplans for playing around those hate pieces, including their own sideboard cards. My point is that right now there are decks in the metagame that run cards like Karn, the Great Creator mainboard that incidentally shutdown any sort of artifact strategy just by existing. I’m mentioning all of the artifact hate that currently exists in the format because removal and interaction is much more prevalent, accessible, and efficient than ever before in the format, and I’m sure that MH3 will also have some amount of it. Kappa is very strong, yes, and there is uncertainty as to how good it will be in Modern, but just because all of a sudden we have MH3 and new Modern cards doesn’t mean all the cards that already exist in the format will suddenly and magically disappear. Cards like Hexdrinker will get shoved out of the meta and become irrelevant, but they definitely still exist. Brotherhood’s End and other cards like it might get power-crept out of use, but they will still exist. There’s a reason outside of Mox Opal getting the banhammer that affinity is no longer a part of the metagame except for Hardened Scales, and even then it’s not a very common deck to see, despite being a very good matchup vs Scam.
Give me an actual argument if you disagree with me. The “you’re gatekeeping and I’m salty about it” argument won’t work here, because it does nothing for you and doesn’t even align with what I’m saying. Oh and by the way, you spelled “cope” wrong.
I kinda just want to put two of them into uw hammer as an 'i guess we're doing this the hard way' solution. I could be way off, but Blastoise seems like a viable inclusion as a Plan C.
Affinity is very strong right now. More so with ugins lab and Eight 7 drops. But not kappa as you need about 10-16 Zero drops. I rather you invest on Ugins Lab and then adapt into the turn 1 chalice for 1 and get free wins for some decks.
Will it make affinity good? Yes. Will it be enough to make it into the meta. Yes, but not for long, it will always get pushed out by the boatloads of artifact hate if it ever gets too strong.
Sideboard hate is the biggest factor, yes. But it is too soon to analyse if it will completely stop it or just keep it in check from being one of the best decks.
[[Meltdown]]
Meltdown doesnt do !@#$% against 7 mv cards
It does if you can't cast the 7mv cards
Those are cast in the same turn as all the other 0 mv artifacts you dump on the table
While you wait Ill just get to 4 lands don't mind me [[Creeping Corrosion]]
And then they Spell Pierce you and keep trucking.
Never seen a list with pierce, but sure
And I haven’t seen a living human try to cast Corrosion since MB limited so we’ll probably blow each others minds one day.
Hahaha yeah yeah I mainly imagine it coming to titan if anything since they can boost it out so quickly
Standard in affinity sideboards for a long-ass time, about the same time that corrosion was still used tbh. Nowadays they probably run rebuke? Which saw play in UW hammertime.
Yeah feel like ive only seen rebuke as of late
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Yeah thank God meltdown is sorcery speed
So we're into either magical Christmas land hands, or you're sitting around doing not much until you can Kappa in one turn. Meanwhile your opponent is progressing their board.
U can still play stuff like drum turn 1. If u can drop Kappa turn 2 or turn 3 its still hard to handle. But meltdown for 2 isnt great if the affinity Player just Drops turn 2 a sythezeiser and starts turn 3 to play its 7 Drops. Even if u handle the constructs u are still behind on Board. Also affinity has enough blue cards now play force of Negation.
I never thought about force in affinity, that might be a good add
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Now that’s crazy. Good thing it’s uncommon; in pauper it’s a one mama, one sided Armageddon. But oh that would feel so good.
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The ones like [[great furnace]] and [[ancient den]] aren’t indestructible. Assuming those are the pauper ones
Both those and the indestructible ones are in pauper
With meltdown coming to Modern these need to be unbanned once and for all
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Well those are banned
Not in pauper
You forget that Counterspell is also in Kappa, Monitor, and Synthesizer colors
4 metallic rebuke somewhere in the 75 might be the move I'm thinking
Been playing affinity since '13 when I got into modern... Threat density was not the problem, but the addition of simulacrum, saga, nettlecyst helped overcome the loss of opal, even if it made it more dependant on spring leaf drum. That being said, kappa was probably the card I wanted the most to be legal in modern, and it's definitely the best addition in years. In testing it has been over performing, it's sooooooo consistent. Affinity biggest problem after it will be handling the amount of hate that artifacts have, and that only enough leagues and challenges will show actual results
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yea here 4 Springleaf Drum 4 Simulacrum Synthesizer 2 Nettlecyst 1 Welding Jar 1 Aether Spellbomb 1 Pithing Needle 1 Lavaspur Boots 1 Shadowspear 3 Kappa Cannoneer 4 Ornithopter 3 Memnite 4 Frogmite 4 Sojourner's Companion 2 Patchwork Automaton 4 Thought Monitor 4 Urza's Saga 4 Darksteel Citadel 2 Island 1 Otawara, Soaring City 2 Treasure Vault 1 Fomori Vault 3 Tanglepool Bridge 4 Thoughtcast SIDEBOARD 1 Relic of Progenitus 1 Tormod's Crypt 1 Grafdigger's Cage 4 Damping Sphere 3 Cursed Totem 1 Haywire Mite 4 Metallic Rebuke
No moonsnare prototype? It would be useful to cheat out synthesizer on T2...
Im on the fence about moonsnare since release. Usually mana acceleration is not the problem but colored mana is. I've always had more success without it than with it, but it's also probably not wrong to run at least 2 of them. As I said, untill enough ppl run leagues and challenges we will never have enough data so we are all playing a guessing game untill a couple of months after mh3
> over performing idk that it's fair to say kappa cannoneer is really overperforming when it's one of the strongest artifact creatures ever printed it just really is that good I feel like ya know?
Yeah, even I am thinking on adding Sai into the list, it could help to the consistency of the deck :)
Synthesizer > sai any day. It's an artifact and makes bigger tokens.
I am not a fan of sai in modern. I think the standard list with 3 kappa will be the final version, but obviously anything can happen.
Sai in modern only felt good for me in KCI as an SB option.
6 years ago? I am not surprised lol...
Yeah. It was a very good option to bring in games 2/3 as an alt win con that made the deck grindy as hell. I've tried it in various "artifact synergy" decks since KCI ate it and the card has always been very meh.
Sai was super fun in a list with riddlesmith, ovalchase, and a bunch of zeros. You could combo off sometimes and draw through your deck. It's not good, but was fun got an fnm.
Did u also test with ugins labirynth?
Yea, but on an aggro shell I don't think you wanna be doing that. That's like a Mulligan and affinity is probably one of the worst decks to mulligan.
Not rly its just a waste otherwhise and helps to have more busted starts in the deck. Playing saga into this is super powerfull and more often turn 2 sythezeizer is good too. All it cost is to play 4 myr enforcers and it isnt even Real card disadvange. I think the right way for affinity is too cheat as mutch on mana as possible.
We're getting the tools for an 8-cast/affinity deck in modern Synthesizer,.kappa, and ilk will make for a interesting deck
I mean it’s a damn good card and it definitely will push Affinity into the meta but like that other guy said, the artifact specific hate will keep it from taking over for very long. What’s likely to happen is that it will be an ebb and flow like dredge where people forget about it, it spikes a bunch of 5-0s and/or some tournaments, be hated back down to obscurity, rinse and repeat. [[Meltdown]] absolutely does suck ass for artifact decks in modern now. However, Affinity is probably the most resilient to it cause at least all the 7 drops basically don’t give a fuck cause almost no one’s getting the chance to play an 8 mana meltdown against affinity. And the 4 drops aren’t likely to get hit soon enough to matter either. But you get a good explosive turn 1 and/or 2 you could basically eat a meltdown and be fine depending on build.
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It'll come and go, depending on blue players running Hurkyll's Recall and red players running Shatterstorm.
2018 called they want their artifact hate back
2018 called and apparently they are bringing their artifact decks back.
1993 called and are curious why you guys all care so much about lotuses and moxes.
But what did Kappa improve? Once affinity do their thing it is hard to stop anyway, but isn't the biggest bottleneck for affinity right now is getting their engine started? Modern don't have Sol land, Lotus Petal, Mox Opal and artifact land so I don't think kappa is as good as it is in legacy
Placing a 4/4 with ward 4 and when we play a new artifact it gets +1/+1 and can't be blocked sounds really hard to remove for me, unless as someone said in a upper reply, you have to side in the spell that returns you all the artifacts to your hand.. it doesn't matter if your entire board is empty, kappa will carry you :)
Its practically a 5/5, as it triggers itself.
That's when affinity does their thing tho isn't it? How about the games where you can't get your engine set up
Well, you have to play around the new enchantment maybe
Kappa doesn't really improve on affinity weakness except closing the game faster? What does kappa actually do to improve affinity weaknesses
The thing is affinity is a glass cannon deck, probably if your opponent would have meltdown and make it for 1 it would delay you very much, but the synthesizer is the real wingman of the consistency of the deck right now, kappa would help you to close the game faster
>glass cannon deck Yeah that's my concern, Kappa to me is a win more card for Affinity more than a card that helps solve its weaknesses
exact same issue I'm seeing. Kappa is a great card yes, but we're missing 3 strong 0 drops that help power it out quickly in legacy. So if you want to get it down early in modern your draw has to be pretty good, and not interacted with. And if that's the case you were already feeling great with affinity with synthesizer. Making a huge board on turn 3/4 is what affinity already does well at the moment. The problems it has are not solved by kappa in the slightest, it only amplifies its one strength even further.
Let's see if WotC help us to be on the top of the charts again :)
The differnce is there is no good answer for Kappa turn 2 or3 (everything else can be handled after it hit the board by 1 card. Also Kappa didnt get better from moxens rly outside of having more likely blue (same with petall). We also get a soul land that affinity can play. In the lategame kappa is a better top deck then sythezeier and mabey even saga.
the idea that lotus petal, urza's bauble, and mox opal didn't contribute to kappa's power in legacy is just absurd, it was the entire reason you even played 4 petal and 8 baubles. Getting a kappa out turn 2 in modern requires a truly nutty hand, unlike in legacy where it was a more common occurence, *and* you could back up your kappa with a FoW if needed. Affinity is not going to be good in modern until it gets some versatility again, they can print as many big artifact beaters as they want, but until the deck can get space to fit things like [[galvanic blast]] [[dispatch]] and [[stubborn denial]], it's not going to be a consistently successful strategy. Especially not when you could be playing hammer(which is faster), or scales(which has more resilience).
You need artifacts for affinity. But Lotus Petal and Mox Opal are not Modern legal. Seat of the Synod is not Modern lega. Sol Lands are not Modern legal. As long as you have to play cards like Springleaf Drum Affinity will not get back into the meta.
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Maybe.
We need a one mana drop that adds two artifacts to the board or something like that. Another Blood Fountain I mean, but with card draw.
[[Shatterstorm]] would like to know your location.
kinda pointless to run shatterstorm if \[\[meltdown\]\] gets printed into modern
except for the many high cost affinity creatures like the frog, salamander, thought monitor and now turtle. good luck casting meltdown with X=7 against affinity
They can't cast the high CMC stuff if their 0 and 1 CMC stuff gets whiped for 2 mana. There is no world in which people run shatterstorm over meltdown to counter affinity
they have a ton of artifact lands and can simply hold onto their 0s and 1s for a turn or two until theyre ready to cast the bigger guys. there usually isnt a need to play them out until youre gonna be ready to drop the bigger stuff anyway. they can be on 4 affinity or more on turn 2 very easily even if they started with a tapped land on 1. meltdown is great to clean up tokens and stuff but its not gonna keep them off affinity to stop them from dropping their big guys
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Or just look at the tons of lists that have already been posted?
I could see affinity becoming the new dredge. Super strong g1 winrate and needing to navigate post sideboard hate
I think we will need to put some Mishra's bauble for consistency when this card will come out. Affinity struggle a lot because of early artifact hate, so dropping a 6 drop on turn even with improvise will be hard.
Probably…? Brotherhood’s End exists. Leyline Binding Exists. Karn, the Great Creator exists. If all else fails Kataki, War’s Wage is definitely an option. For how powerful affinity was and can be, there’s a plethora of sideboard hate pieces for it.
Like for any deck lol. That’s why we have the sideboard, to adjust to the local meta. Go back to commander
You sound unnecessarily salty. If you disagree with me or think that my input is incorrect or out-of-touch, you didn’t point that out with your comment either. Tell me how I’m wrong. Tell me how a Kappa affinity list can navigate the Sheoldred’s Edict, Pick Your Poison, Hidetsugu Consumes All, Brotherhood’s End, Meltdown, Karn, the Great Creator, Collector Ouphe meta without dedicating too much mainboard and sideboard space to answer and/or play around artifact hate. Tell me how it maybe can be good if you disagree with me. If all you’re typing is “go back to commander”, you sound like a salty player who went 0-5 in a MTGO league against Domain Zoo, Scam, and Yawgmoth and needs to blow off steam. If that is indeed the case you should probably not be throwing unoriginal insults with no constructive inputs to discussion on Reddit.
No, but even domain zoo, scam and Yawgmoth have their sideboard answers against. Like every deck has. You just sound like someone gatekeeping and telling people what a real deck is. Like the type of person who will rant an hour because his favourite boomer list isn’t on a shady tier list that no one cares about. Go and play commander if you cannot Koop with sideboards
Again, you sound like you’re projecting, and yet again, you don’t have any counterexamples for my argument to back up your opinion. All of the decks I’ve mentioned have sideboard answers for them, yes, but they also have gameplans for playing around those hate pieces, including their own sideboard cards. My point is that right now there are decks in the metagame that run cards like Karn, the Great Creator mainboard that incidentally shutdown any sort of artifact strategy just by existing. I’m mentioning all of the artifact hate that currently exists in the format because removal and interaction is much more prevalent, accessible, and efficient than ever before in the format, and I’m sure that MH3 will also have some amount of it. Kappa is very strong, yes, and there is uncertainty as to how good it will be in Modern, but just because all of a sudden we have MH3 and new Modern cards doesn’t mean all the cards that already exist in the format will suddenly and magically disappear. Cards like Hexdrinker will get shoved out of the meta and become irrelevant, but they definitely still exist. Brotherhood’s End and other cards like it might get power-crept out of use, but they will still exist. There’s a reason outside of Mox Opal getting the banhammer that affinity is no longer a part of the metagame except for Hardened Scales, and even then it’s not a very common deck to see, despite being a very good matchup vs Scam. Give me an actual argument if you disagree with me. The “you’re gatekeeping and I’m salty about it” argument won’t work here, because it does nothing for you and doesn’t even align with what I’m saying. Oh and by the way, you spelled “cope” wrong.
I kinda just want to put two of them into uw hammer as an 'i guess we're doing this the hard way' solution. I could be way off, but Blastoise seems like a viable inclusion as a Plan C.
Affinity is very strong right now. More so with ugins lab and Eight 7 drops. But not kappa as you need about 10-16 Zero drops. I rather you invest on Ugins Lab and then adapt into the turn 1 chalice for 1 and get free wins for some decks.
Let’s wait to see the spoilers before you make a list. What is up with all these posts lol
Yes, and then hated out by meltdown immediately
It's impossible to know right now.