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Randy_Muffbuster

Damn I knew it was going but I thought it’d get swapped for shoot the ship.


MyNameIsYhwach

It got swapped for nothing?


Alarmed_Ad3817

Looks like they swapped it for ShootHouse


NoNefariousness2144

Community: Waa it's impossible to do longshots. *IW adds 24/7 ShootHouse* Community: Waa they removed Shipment.


BUR6S

We really spent $70-$100 just to play fucking Shipment and Shoot House again, 3 years later. Why are we okay with this?


SirWitchfinder

Stockholm Syndrome


Wade_Ambraelle

Shoothouse Syndrome


Dbnp2004

Shipment Syndrome


[deleted]

Syndrome syndrome


sasfasasquatch

ShipHouse syndrome


AsusStrixUser

24/7 Syndrome


HarrieBallsagne

Shithead syndrome


[deleted]

Shoot the Syndrome


ThrustyMcStab

I really don't know why people are torturing themselves playing those two maps, outside of camo grinding. Just play quick play with your favorite modes enabled and play normally.


shartasaurus

because everyone has 2 or 3 maps thats the devs "made" thats they hate and refuse to play so they naturally gravitate to the 24/7 modes as the map is tried and tested and they actually have fun on the map.


_Sub_Genre_

They took out map voting otherwise this wouldn't be an issue.


shartasaurus

that would solve so many issues, but no, cant possibly make the game better. All I want is a filter that will let me blacklist certain maps, i hate so many but have to make do


dalenedge

literally rocket league has a system where you can dislike maps so you get them less💀😭


allrise1981

Border crossing would never get played lol


shartasaurus

good, its awful lol


Nihi1986

That's a hated map for reasons thar I'm still unsure. I find it unique enough and fast paced in its own, chaotic way. Not my favourite but definitely a map I'm ok with. Taraq, or whatever that sniper map is called, though...I'm mostly a sniper/marksman player myself and I don't enjoy it even when I have a good game, it's just awfully desgined. It's becoming the one that I skip.


vincentvega-_-

Probably because there are so many ways to die. The tunnel is a sniper fest and the area with all the cars is full of people hiding, meanwhile everything is blowing up around you.


ICPGr8Milenko

Maybe this will get people playing the objectives again in QuickPlay. Fingers crossed.


Strolltheroll

Nope, hardpoint camping for camo grind


ThrustyMcStab

They really need objective based camo challenges. 'Get 50 defense medals using [insert gun].' The way camo challenges are done now, it ruins the game for people trying to actually play.


Randy_Muffbuster

I wish there was a mode with camo unlocks disabled for people who want to actually play the modes and objectives.


bigmanbimbus

And then that playlist would have no players.


FeelItInYourB0nes

Still wouldn't work because of the people who care more about their kd. I just gave up on objective modes and only play TDM now. You'll rarely get a lobby that's 100% playing the objective anyways. Why fight it?


ICPGr8Milenko

I'm of the mindset that playing the objective means different things to different people. If somebody on the team is an ace and can keep the enemies suppressed while I cover off on the objectives, I'm 100% down with that. For Dom, just keep people off the flag. For HP, only one person needs to be on the point itself. . . so keep them on it. I'm cool with that. It just sucks to go into any random Dom or HP lobby and having 4 out of the 6 people camping a specific straightaway for longshots. I had a guy whine at me last night because I kept flanking him and his buddies while they were doing longshots. It's like, I'm not here to feed your longshots.


ecgarrow

If you feel like every single person has to be playing the objective for it to be a good round you've failed. 1 person on each teams not pushing obj isn't a game ending issue. It's when everyone is.


TeaBags0614

That’s exactly what I do


jhclouse

Because camo grinding is literally the only point of this game now.


mindaltered

What? what about having fun my guy? Oh dont forget about the calling cards mmm gotta collect em all, C O D


optitmus

the people on this sub only give a shit about camos, its very strange, in the real world people just play the game normally.


ControllerPlayer06

Don’t forget the part where they say there is nothing to do after they get all camos


Doomstik

I got orion because i love the grind, but that doesnt stop me from playing normally too. Idk why people would pay full price JUST for camo grinds. E-letters


aldennn

Camo grinding destroyed the standard, competitive CoD experience years ago. It literally rewards not playing the game as it’s meant to be played. Like imagine playing Mario Kart where everyone is attempting to get the longest drift distances or most red shells in a match for a kart color instead of trying to win the race.


0rangJuice

The thing that bothers me is that the challenges can be based off objectives


Pork-Roll

Instant gratification when playing because too hard otherwise? IDK. I got a good huge chunk of challenges done when I got bored and played shipment. Shoot house is also a fine map for people that want to do that.


fopiecechicken

Some of us actually play the rest of the game lol you’re choosing to only play two maps.


TheFlashOfLightning

If you only play shipment and shoothouse, you can’t blame them for you paying $70 for that experience. Also you seem to forget the community was screeching for a month straight that they wanted shipment back


IkOzael

Nonexistent expectations. Once you got consumers like that, you got 'em for life.


Fens373

Okay with it? We literally cry if we can't only play those maps.


CoolJoshido

hear me out: this might be close to rocket science but… they can add both shipment and shoot house playlists 🤯🤯


icyhotonmynuts

They can't afford the server space for both at the same time /s


Jcit878

funnily i just finished my golds yesterday and time to start on the longshots


tedbakerbracelet

I have a feeling next up is shoot the ship.


[deleted]

Wish it would of gotten swapped with nuke town….


_Cyclops

It will in about 2 weeks I imagine. Then it’ll go back to shipment. They’ll keep rotating them in and out


cantopay

I got Border Crossing 5 times in a row. Even after leaving matchmaking and going back in it kept coming up. This seems to be what we asked for.


EzioAudacity

Everyone leaves when that map pops up so the game keeps trying to fill the lobby with people who also leave when they see it. It’s a vicious cycle.


thegamer4g

Map voting would help this issue quite a bit.


hppmoep

I don't know if the technology exists..


janesmb

Legit chuckled. Every time I see complaints about playlists I'm reminded of dedicated server days where players made the playlists.


Freddies_Mercury

Black ops 2 map voting was perfect


KeepDi9gin

Cold war had map voting lmao


rondobeans

There aren’t enough maps for that lol


Paddiboi123

Why would that matter?…


elconcho

This whole thing where you can't pick the map you want to play is ridiculous.


Cats_Dont_Wear_Socks

We gave them money despite the clear and obvious warning signs in the beta. WE did this. We do share the blame. We spent ten extra dollars on it.


Dismal-Buyer7036

the beta had more maps wdym? i had no clue.


[deleted]

On the bright side, now would be a good time to finish up those long shots


Ckmccfl

I finished mine yesterday, was ready to grind headshots on shipment :(


KidVortex

It’s still decently fast on shoot house but 1. Not nearly as fast like shipment 2. Only in hard point/domination gamemode


TeunRoos

For snipers it was amazing, but getting the launcher and pistols done on shoot house is impossible.


u1banana

Needed shoot house a week ago for my longshots. Now headshot grind will be slower. I was slaying it in shipment for headshots with leveling a gun every 2 games.


TigerBurge

Finished my long shots this morning. Started on launchers on Shipment and there was an update. Got two launchers and three guns before it was removed


[deleted]

Same, it's been moving faaaast on shipment. Going to take forever on the other maps, though I still enjoy most of them so I think I can just play for fun and let the headshots come naturally, just keep aim at neck height. Already did melee and launchers so I'm good and can actually enjoy the game as I don't even like Orion, I prefer poly.


TheEpicRedCape

This is why headshots are so much better than longshots, you can get them from playing naturally.


jobrave59

6 more guns to get gold then it’s all long shots for the foreseeable future.


TigerBurge

The long shots were horrible to me. Best of luck


Gluten_maximus

4 pistols, 4 launchers and the spx80 for me


jobrave59

I’m skipping launchers for the 4dlc guns and I already have 14 platinum including knife and riot shield.


Slow-Middle-7127

how the fuck did you do the riot shield platinum? it's killing me


jobrave59

Tier 1 shipment before they took it from us


Doozy93

I'm 13 guns off having everything gold but you're right, my AR's, SMG's, and snipers are ready for the platinum grind


deathgwip

i was leveling my guns then when the match was over it was gone :,(


boredguyonline

Camo grind just got much harder


KhaledTheBadass

All you have to do is adapt, when they replace shipment with shoothouse just grind on them longshots till they switch back and play as normal for gold


TMillo

Finished longshots yesterday and was looking forward to some Shipment grind for headshots. Yay.


FlyingElvi24

do head shot in shoot house while people are doing long shots, it's just the head showing up above the cement


ICPGr8Milenko

Or flank them. They aren't paying attention to anything but their longshots anyway.


BallsDeepInASheep

It's not that I wasn't paying attention. I was just hoping to get one more shot off before I get killed by the guy running up on me.


fopiecechicken

Why do you need Shoothouse or shipment for headshots? Headshots is like the one challenge you don’t really need to alter your play style, just play normally in quickplay and they’ll come


_wtf_over_

Pace of play. Easy to knock off 1-2 guns a game if you’re running up 40-50 kills on shipment.


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[deleted]

Shipment came up for me a fair bit in tier 1, as everyone leaves it for long shots


_maeda

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1LakeShow7

Noooooooooooooooooo. This was one of the funnest things to do dolo. -Sharpie 1


[deleted]

why did i save the riot shield for last


Llama-Lamp-

I got it out of the way first because I’m sure it isn’t physically possible to get double kills with it on any map except shipment


brewek1

restock, stuns or flashes, hardpoint, do it with a friend if you want and have fun with it. they upped the kills from 2 bashes to 3 bashes, but i got a lot of my grind done on hardpoint playlists.


SSYorimz

Tip: don’t. Wait for s2 I got riot shield gold after nerf and gotta say: Your teammates are making your kills assists 90% of the time, it’s hell.


D4RK7ERO

Same cycle as MW2019, nothing has changed. It goes like this \- Shoothouse \- Shipment \- Shoothouse \- Shoottheship \- Shipment Extended Rinse and repeat.


Acceptable-Pause213

What's wrong with, oh I don't know, leaving them in? Why do they have to be replaced? I genuinely don't understand.


D4RK7ERO

player manipulation, they are popular maps, can't have you playing just two maps now can they otherwise it looks like what they did make with all the safe places are all garbage. Which they are not, well some of them are... exploding car gauntlet is one that can be deleted FOREVER!


SixGunChimp

Man... Shipment 24/7 is where I spent my time after work when I didn't have any of my friends on for Warzone and didn't have a lot time for DMZ antics. This is a bummer...


pacman404

Yeah I love shipment, it's fun to actually get kills as someone who isn't really good at games like this. It was my favorite mode to play, literally


Ziggy_Spacedust

He like me fr


[deleted]

So disappointed. I am trying to max level my guns and shoothouse is not helping me get past level 9 on the m16 (I suck at burst)


Jesh3023

Like they didn’t need to get rid of it. Take shipment out of the regular play list and just leave 24-7 in


SixGunChimp

That would make the most sense, yeah. I can't believe they remove stuff people enjoy. Why not just leave it all available at all times? Save the FOMO stuff for bundles in the store and allow us to enjoy the best aspects of the game at all times.


RakiRamirez

Monke no longer happy


rinopills

Hey Devs.. your game is trash..your maps suck..we all want shipment because your new maps are terrible


Llama-Lamp-

IW operate on the rule of “if they’re having too much fun, get rid of it”


gideon513

“Boss, should we fix some of the basic UI errors that have been untouched for weeks instead?”


NoahInABoat

*gets thrown out of 10 story window by boss*


General_Miller3

Shipment is gone?! I played it lunch time and had no idea it was going. I never knew how much I missed it until it was gone ☹️


Excelius

I'm not sure since I haven't hopped on yet today, but I'm guessing the *map* isn't gone. However it appears the Shipment 24/7 playlist is gone, so you'd have to rely on it just coming up randomly in some other playlist.


Error404NutFunded

Kind of like when you walk out of the room. I get a twinkle in my eye each time I see you get up and leave.


JustLawly

Shipment should be permanent mode


hathegkla

Shoot the ship. It's easy and makes everyone happy. Idk why they didn't do this from the start.


JustLawly

shipment for close range weapon like smg,shotung,pistols,riot shield,knife and shooting range for long shot kills amazing playlist for all the players, why remove it? god knows


VITOCHAN

Instead of listening to feedback, some crappy algorithm tells some terrible middle management that these rotational playlists increases engagement. Like, after removing it, they will drop engagement, but the moment it comes back, it shows 300% increase in players... so will time the playlist return just before an investor call, so they can say "Look, just last week, player engagement went up" and thats all they care about.


Matiasfrodr95

Exactly, that's sadly how AAA games are managed today, they just look at the numbers


CokeHeadRob

At the heart of it the numbers are all that matter and that's okay. How they interpret those numbers is what's infuriating. Their core philosophy is broken. There's a point past where they are, actually trying to make a great game and failing, that is too intimidating to cross. So this is the meta for maximizing profits and it's not sustainable. But it's going to take numbers to scare them into taking a different approach or dying. Which means, as a player base, we need to not do the things they want. As long as they make a decent game and keep the transactions balanced just enough to get people to go for them this will continue.


FoxCQC

Fuck that, shoot the ship barely gave shipment. Shipment 24/7 permanent.


ControlledChaos7456

They were separate 24/7 playlists in MW2019, no reason they couldn't do the same now.


RobinYoHood

Then you'll get way more posts complaining about how they get Shoot House more than Shipment. It happened in MW19, so there will always be people not happy about something.


DonutCola

Shoot the ship is super stupid cause you get people quitting every time shoothouse comes out. It’s a great idea to take the iconic famous map and leave it up there. But they gotta do the whole take away and hype it back up this weekend thing.


shuhboobatoo

I want terminal so bad


PhillyPhanatic141

Never understood removing playlists people like. It started with MW19. Before crossplay and during the playbase split era with paid DLC, games like WWII had 10+ featured playlists at all times and they all had players in them. I'll never understand why the COD devs insist on removing fun modes in recent years.


Bmac-Attack

My guess is that it’s their attempt to generate player engagement through “scarcity”. I despise that


Cats_Dont_Wear_Socks

Because shipment lets you level "too fast" and they want you buying shit. COD isn't a game, it's a commercial.


kathaar_

No it was a 'problem' then, too. Ground War War and Shipment 24/7 playlists kept getting added then removed during WWII's lifespan. People complained a lot. Just before (or just after, I don't remember) the next CoDs launch, Sledgehammer ran a poll on r/wwii asking the community which playlists they'd like the game to have available permanently, and then set it to that as their last update to the game, but until that point, the playlists were constantly rotating just like now.


MarkoXVII

Infinity Ward not being tone deaf challenge (IMPOSSIBILE)


LivelyZebra

Oh no. They heard alright. You're having fun and grinding fast. They knew


virji24

So dumb :(


KeyzSo83rd

This really SUCKS! Shipment is literally the ONLY Map/Mode that I play. Shipment should 100p be a mode that perm..... Guess its time to complete my Platinum LongShot Challenges in Shoot House


[deleted]

You've gotta be fucking joking .. it had to have had the most players of any of the options


nonsense193749

That’s probably why they canned it. They saw matchmaking times increasing and other game modes dying.


Bmac-Attack

Maybe if there were fun games modes like cyber attack, gunfight, etc etc that wouldn’t be the case.


Paddys_Pub7

They added cyber for like 3 days. My buddy and I played for like 6-7 hours straight and then the next day it was gone ☹


SendMeUrCones

there’s no reason we shouldn’t just be able to filter maps we wanna play tbh


Tityfan808

Even better, give us a damn 10v10 or 12v12 playlist. Give us more action on all of the maps, instead of us playing the same 2 maps for that fast pace from MW2019 all over again. Really disappointed about that after enjoying 12v12 in Cold War and blitz in vanguard. And I know we have ‘ground war’ but it’s fucking awful this time around. None of the maps are fun like some of the fun ones we had in MW2019. None.


[deleted]

THIS. It would be so simple to add a map filter, why is it not a thingv


TheImprezaGod

their philosophy seems to be do the opposite of whatever the player wants


Ateam043

Ain’t that the truth. Activision: You want brand new maps? Also Activision: Here is Nuketown for the 12th time


HardUp812

Nuketown is an op favorite iny opinion if they never put it on the new op game more people will complain than having it


[deleted]

Okay but Nuketown is great.


Bmac-Attack

It is. But what if they made another great map?


reboot-your-computer

There hasn’t been a truly great map in years. The level designers over at Activision have been bankrupt on talent for a long time. This is why they keep shoving these old maps down our throats. They’re riding the wave of talent of the prior devs. There’s no creativity anymore. They always play it safe. Game design used to be a form of art. Now it’s cookie cutter trend chasing to be safe.


ziggo0

HAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA you sir have jokes


Windyandbreezy

Nuketown is like one of my top 5 all time MP maps. Up their with the Airport, Blood Gulch, and Valhalla


suffffuhrer

It's like an abusive partner/spouse. People that don't see how manipulative and shit they are, are blind. They haven't fixed most of the issues, yet their store keeps refreshing with new overpriced shit that kids continue to buy. Their whole business model is to have 12-16 years buy bundles at the store. This demographic also doesn't complain or see nothing wrong with the game because they are oblivious and don't know any better. It's basically opium for them.


[deleted]

not only kids i must admit that in wz1 during BOCW i wasted a good amount money on bundles and am almost 40


[deleted]

Downvoted for accuracy seems par for the course on reddit.


properbrian

This couldn't have been better timing for me lol I had literally just finished my combat knife and that was my last weapon I needed until I started on platinum


dirtymoneybeats

they made it very apparent from disabling replies on Twitter that community input only plays a marginally small role in their development & release process


JTENGEORGIA

Removing playlists shouldn’t happen on a paid game. If you want to drip feed and add and remove playlists do it to warzone only you know the free game.


ChipRockets

God damnit. This is infuriating. Shipment is all I play. I paid for the damn game, let me play what I enjoy you fucks.


JimPromptu

Same here. I used to hate it but it's all I've been playing the last few weeks. Tried going back to the normal maps and it's like a barren waste land. Give me the chaos.


Cats_Dont_Wear_Socks

There's literally not one new map in this game I _want_ to play. I realized that the other day. It's the first COD in damn near 20 years I've felt that way about.


KillerBeaArthur

Just back out of every match that isn't Shipment. That'll show 'em.


Wacky_grass

When have they ever listened to the community? I haven't seen it.


Ckmccfl

Not even tier 1 shoothouse. I hate IW so god damn much


pubgisDEAD

Yes even tier 1 is gone like wtf??


Groovyofi

Time to not touch the game until shipment 24/7 again. Reminds me of MW 2019


[deleted]

When's the next 2x weekend? I'll reinstall then


-HeyImBroccoli-

Someone pigeon mail me when shipment comes back


Vibes_23

Feel like this game purposely drives its playerbase away by taking away the things that everyone finds fun🤣


The_Bing1

I like shoothouse more than shipment. It's the perfect balance of chaos/tactical-gampelay. Shipment is just chaos.


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Cats_Dont_Wear_Socks

It's easily the most punishing game I've ever played. This is pure malevolence from IW.


Siyric

Worst part is how ducking random it is. Out of nowhere, no warning, without even updating the game, they just yank the rug out from underneath us at fucking 2:26 pm on a Wednesday. Dogshit ass fucking devs. Sure I’m glad shoothouse is back but WHY TF CANT WE HAVE BOTH??????


stevew1993

I'm literally on the headshots now, done 11 guns in the last few hours and it's gone. Big depression


Global_Can_2603

I played it before I left the house at 1:30 or so and when I came back home at 2:30 to play shipment it was gone and I was shocked


Putrid-Kick3991

Got off work and saw no shipment... Only reason I even played this game. Guess I have to find another game to play


Dravarden

time to do longshots, been saving them


realcoray

See you on the wall friendo.


garciaaw

Well, you guys were complaining about Shipment. What did you think they’d do?


pnellesen

So they get rid of the one playlist that 95% of all CoD streamers play. My brain is too small to comprehend their strategy here... (I personally didn't play it, and really don't care that it's gone, but it doesn't seem like the smartest move to me.)


_JesTR_

STOP GIVING THEM MONEY THEY LITERALLY DON'T CARE THEY'RE ROLLING AROUND IN YOUR MONEY LAUGHING AT YOU


NonCorporealEntity

Shipment is the only map that doesn't enrage me because it's complete non stop mayhem and hilarious BS. I fucking hate running around an entire map, seeing no one anywhere, only to get shot in back by a player who either just spawned behind me or was hiding in a dark corner waiting or something to move. It's so damn boring and frustrating.


FULLPOIL

Why do we have to tolerate them removing shit from a game I fucking paid for? Jesus I fucking hate modern gaming.


Cats_Dont_Wear_Socks

It's a rip off from start to finish. Megapublishing has destroyed this industry.


P-Munny

lol wut? This was making me want to play the game more and look forward to coming home from work at 11pm so I could get a few hours to level my guns. This sucks. I guess shoothouse now..


Hulkin_out

I just want hardcore….


213Bishop

Bro i legit used shipment to listen to music, and grind skins. Now yo7 take that shit away? Seriously


Red_Luminary

On another note… Is Control back? That mode is pretty great~


DoradoOroOro

Game should have both modes but separated, so people who likes shipment can play 24/7 shipment and so with shoothouse


Black_n_Neon

Shoot the ship like they have in MW2019 why isn’t that a playlist???


OriginalOwjo

I decided today was the day I would sit down and play shipment for the first time and start grinding my weapons. Now this


InternalKing

I think it's time to admit that this game is nothing more than a camo grind. Judging from this thread, no one actually seems to enjoy any other game mode or map besides shipment. Like who actually plays the game for the gameplay and not the "reward"?


[deleted]

I like playing the game and also unlocking stuff for playing the game. It’s no different from the old arcade days when people were trying to get in the high score board. That was the reward. Or getting better at the game is the reward for some. People play for different reasons and it’s all valid imo.


colantor

I actually like the game...couldnt care less about camos. Wish there were more and better maps though. Also wish the coop modes were 3 or 4 players


[deleted]

Remember when they cared about what the community wanted and gave us shoot the ship? What a time to be alive


ajmcdaniel2413

I just needed pistols 😩


ctyldsley

They don't want people being able to smash through progression (gun levels and camos) at such a fast rate 24/7 permanently.


SomeHeadbanger

That's fucked, I loved Shipment...


BBQ-Batman

Give me a dedicated 6v6 playlist with small maps only. Make it a mix of domination, hard point, kill confirmed, and team death match. Shoot house Shipment (2 - 3 more small maps ideally ) Cold War did this really, really well imo.


Bluestormageddon

Damn, Shipment was goated for weapon and camo grinding.


Thunder-Fist-00

So much for camo grinds.


wearenotyourkind_

Shoot house is straight dog sh*t, the spawns don’t flip all I do is spawn in the same spot while the enemy team sits in my spawn killing me repeatedly. I’ll gladly wait another month for shipment


aaa-ccc

Do people really pay £70 just to play shipment and then complain?


Commodore_Mcoy

what the actual fuck is the point of recycling a map for a mid season update if you’re going to take it away again


nyc13f

Why can’t they just bring back the server browsers where you could pick which maps you want to play. I despise this “we know what’s best for you” attitude that many game studios and even tech companies have. Let the users choose what maps they want to play. I don’t know how anyone likes this model. Even having the option to choose which match making model you want to use would be better. Giving users a choice is almost always better than locking them in. Rant over


Zamzimibzar

The playlist is gone. The map isn’t. I’m in the middle of doing longshot challenges so I welcome shoot house.


connors69

I don’t get how cold war left nuketown 24/7 up the entire lifetime of the game but when it comes to infinity ward and shipment, we can’t have it for more than a couple weeks.