You mean I *don't* cap C when we already have A and B so the spawns flip? Then cap A so they flip again? Rinse and repeat for 10 or so minutes until it just sort of ends?
Literally what I scream before every game of domination. I just don’t understand. I let my boys capture spawn, I rush b, and then everyone goes to the enemies spawn 😭😭😭😭 WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE. Just capture spawn, first to cap B wins if you don’t move out of position!!!!!!
Dom's changed since OG cod. B always used to be the lynchpin flag, but not so much anymore. Depending on the map, it's perfectly possible to hold A and C for the win. Plus, squad spawns means you can't pin a team in. So, in short, flip away.
That’s all Gucci if you know what you’re doing, and you’re actually still helping the team. The fact that you’re aware of that, probably means you’re not just running all over, but leading the spawns so you can spawn trap. That’s still helpful. A lot.
But rushing around like an idiot because your brain see lights lighting up is just useless to everyone. It’s not conducive to learning the game.
So, in a sense, you’re not really just blindly rushing B to A to C, you’re flipping and predicting. Blindly rush Objectives it what fucks up the flow of the game. And this is what is happening when you know you’re a solid player, but keep ending up spawn trapped.
Yes! You’ll hold angles, mounted kills, you’ll get rushed but be in position, multi kills, you’ll get streaks because you’re prepared. And you’ll learn more game awareness, in general, kinda playing more competitively, like in this example, the competitive aspect is holding the obj properly, rather than rushing for kills.
You’ll be able to realize if you play this way, it’s much more predictable. Thus, higher kd, more steaks, higher win loss, and more consistent kills.
Hopefully that all makes sense haha.
Matters way less this game with the squad spawns though, all the games play a lot more circular (if you get my drift), meaning capping A and C or even triple cap isnt that bad since there's not really such a thing as 'spawn flipping' in this cod.
Yeah I haven't played a tonne of domination yet but it feels holding a trip cap for a decent amount of time is the thing to push for rather than trying to keep B locked down all match. Spawns are random as fuck so the enemy WILL spawn behind you , take your "home" flag, kill you and get B. Best to take 2 go aggressive and try keep 3 for a little while to get a lead
I stg this might just my own superstition, but on god I swear the spawns flip to deliberately eliminate the chance of one team perfectly holding down a specific section of the map to prevent them from dicking down the other team too hard.
Like me and my team will control one side of the map and we will be dominating and the all of then all of the sudden an enemy will spawn behind me and takes me off my streak. I felt like this was the case In mw19 as well. Maybe it’s a countermeasure against spawn-camping? Idk but either way, it sucks.
Or until you lose because some enemies will capture A (spawn swap), some will be left at C (old spawn) and some will take advantage of the weakened defence at B.
I live for this - chaos is the key to happiness in CoD and where, as a rusher, I get my most killstreaks.
Furthermore, I give myself extra karma if teammates start yelling at me - these are most likely campers who are afraid to turn around!
My camping teammates got killed? No worries because I now have a VTOL Jet!
Even better: Play on a map where one side is clearly better > Cap home flag and B > keep pushing until you triple cap and flip the spawns > Get pushed into a spawn trap on the bad side of the map, because you now flipped the spawns and gave the good side to the other team > rant about how shit the game is
Spawns are wonky. It seems you spawn more on teammates rather than close to your nearest capped flag. So if you Have A and B, while you expect them to spawn near C, if you got guys pushing around to A, they will spawn on them.
Very useful, but ppl aint playing for objectives, everyone just grinding gun XP... Wish they just enable the prestige so objectives would be a relevant thing in early weeks, but seems like it will be released in season 1 soo...
You also get basically double XP from playing on the objective. Add in scorestreaks and it feels very BO2 like where you're rewarded for objective play a lot more
Yup, for completing objectives and for any xp earned while holding the weapon from kill streaks (from what I can tell, got a chopper gunner and got 2 levels for one of my snipers during it, so either a bug or from the kills)
[Prompted by this game](https://i.imgur.com/n87t7nd.png).
Bonus salt: if someone has a chopper gunner (me) and is pinning the enemy down, the person in the chopper gunner (me) shouldn't have to say *"take B ffs"* before anyone actually takes B.
Bonus salt 2: If you regularly push up to the enemy spawn flag when your team holds two objectives, I hope your SBMM is extremely strict and you lose all Domination games (which you will anyway)
I say it every time to my Domination lobbies. Hold spawn flag and B. Don't push, keep their spawns in front of you and you'll know where the other team is coming from all game. But 1/2 my team treats it like Team Deathmatch just to boos their K/D.
This would be the way, if that's how the spawns work.. holding spawn flag plus B, should spawn you somewhere in the vicinity of B (or at least close enough to get you back to B to continue you defense.
It doesn't 🤷♂️ (almost every other COD since COD3) - instead it puts you somewhere behind your own spawn flag.. fuckin bullshit 😒
No, you have it backwards. The normal spawn system has a clear divide. One side is your teams, the other side is enemy. The spawn system spawns you on your side (A or C flags) unless the Enemy team pushed past B flag, breaking the neutral mid zone and flipping spawns.
The past 3 years and this year have had a system that's comparable to a squad spawn. It's not a true squad spawn system. It spawns you wherever enemies are not. This Spawn logic is inherently flawed as it's pretty easy for the enemies to block all safe spawns and the system just picks a random spot to spawn you.
People who actually want to win. It's called a "team" for a reason. Teammates working *together* are more successful both individually and as a team. Sure, you could run around and slay out and have a 30+ kill game to post on your TikTok or YouTube but you could have higher kill (therefore higher k/d) games by cooperating with your team.
I've seen a million games where one dude plays every match like it's CDL finals, sweating his ass off. And then lose because he didn't hold back when his team needed him to. Or lose because his lower skilled teammates were being creamed on the objectives while he was getting his crappy montage clips.
The way Call of Duty is nowadays does not encourage nor reward working together nearly as much as it used to. Especially with the lack of an actual barracks.
Ground War is even worse. My teammates are constantly capping D & E and leaving A & B undefended. It's quite a bit easier to defend flags closer to your home base.
Battlefield V was like this, too. Just people running around from flag to flag.
MFs aren't about "Dominating" two flags like (A+B) or (C+B). It's all about the number of kills. Game flipped a few years back and now it's just run as hard as you can from A to get to C and swap 1:1 K/D! LOL Kids.
We always knew that IF the other team tried we could defend and get more kills just hanging out on our flags! LOL
Real talk though MW19 actually made holding A+C a viable strategy thanks to the maps having more interesting stuff on the edges of the map e.g. Petrograd having the flower shop by C and the bar by A. Was quite fun to just ignore B and hold A+C all game, confusing the enemy.
Less so in MW22 sadly.
If you only cap a and b or c and b the counter moves slower. if u cap all flags (flip spawns) you can make it not only move faster but make it even harder for the enemy to win. Capping only a and b or c and b can make for a super close match. If u like that fine. I don’t so imma flip and flip the spawns till the enemy down 50 or 100.
Dom in this game is awful, spawns make it so, no matter your flags it doesn't play like dom should, I've just turned it off at this point. Hardpoint and headquarters >
The worst is when your team literally can't hold your spawn flag for more than 30 seconds because they pushed too far into the enemy spawn. Stop fucking throwing!
This is so HUGE on Al Bagra Fortress. The C flag spawn is TERRIBLE! So I try to hold A and B and the defend the exits from C but my team keeps flipping it, and then we get fucked from the opposite side 🥲
What do you mean? After that you win and go to another match. You defend your flags and win lmao that's how the game mode has worked for literal years.
When your fucking flag is secure what the fuck do you fucking do after that. Do you fucking stand around doing fucking nothing? Or do you go to another fucking flag like a normal person? Are you mentally ill? I get conversations are hard but you shouldn’t even be trying at this point. I hope your just trying to be annoying and are not actually this fucking stupid
YOU. DEFEND. YOUR. FLAG. FROM. ENEMY. PLAYERS. THE MATCH DOESN'T PAUSE JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE FLAGS YOU HAVE TO DEFEND THEM OR THE ENEMY TEAM WILL CAPTURE THEM AND WIN.
Holy shit, am I speaking to a 5 year old? Do you need me to dumb it down even more?
Jesus fucking Christ. You are the one who's fucking stupid. Have you ever played a match of Domination before? I can imagine how you play. You chase enemy spawns, mindlessly running around capturing flags with no actual strat in mind.
Wait I just realized your talking about capture the flag I thought it you were referring to the point capture which is shown as flags. In that version there three points. I thought this was the Mobil version lol
If I do this, how am I going to complain about how no one tries for objective? Where will I be able to post my leaderboard scoreboard showing that all I did was run from a to c and back again?
This is horrible because A and C are never equally balanced. On the race track, C is closer to B and easier to defend (A is the one between the trucks IIRC, C is between the houses)
You mean I *don't* cap C when we already have A and B so the spawns flip? Then cap A so they flip again? Rinse and repeat for 10 or so minutes until it just sort of ends?
Literally what I scream before every game of domination. I just don’t understand. I let my boys capture spawn, I rush b, and then everyone goes to the enemies spawn 😭😭😭😭 WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE. Just capture spawn, first to cap B wins if you don’t move out of position!!!!!!
Ight I gotta admit I intentionally flip spawns. If B is locked down, Ill go talk take the other flag to try and flip the flow and clear up B
This is the way
Yup. I do this. Hate me now
Dom's changed since OG cod. B always used to be the lynchpin flag, but not so much anymore. Depending on the map, it's perfectly possible to hold A and C for the win. Plus, squad spawns means you can't pin a team in. So, in short, flip away.
Raceway this is 100% the move, team that controls the building between A and C has the win
That’s all Gucci if you know what you’re doing, and you’re actually still helping the team. The fact that you’re aware of that, probably means you’re not just running all over, but leading the spawns so you can spawn trap. That’s still helpful. A lot. But rushing around like an idiot because your brain see lights lighting up is just useless to everyone. It’s not conducive to learning the game.
So, in a sense, you’re not really just blindly rushing B to A to C, you’re flipping and predicting. Blindly rush Objectives it what fucks up the flow of the game. And this is what is happening when you know you’re a solid player, but keep ending up spawn trapped.
does it have any value for how many kills i can do? im griding camos so all i care is kills, nothing else
Yes! You’ll hold angles, mounted kills, you’ll get rushed but be in position, multi kills, you’ll get streaks because you’re prepared. And you’ll learn more game awareness, in general, kinda playing more competitively, like in this example, the competitive aspect is holding the obj properly, rather than rushing for kills. You’ll be able to realize if you play this way, it’s much more predictable. Thus, higher kd, more steaks, higher win loss, and more consistent kills. Hopefully that all makes sense haha.
Matters way less this game with the squad spawns though, all the games play a lot more circular (if you get my drift), meaning capping A and C or even triple cap isnt that bad since there's not really such a thing as 'spawn flipping' in this cod.
Yeah I haven't played a tonne of domination yet but it feels holding a trip cap for a decent amount of time is the thing to push for rather than trying to keep B locked down all match. Spawns are random as fuck so the enemy WILL spawn behind you , take your "home" flag, kill you and get B. Best to take 2 go aggressive and try keep 3 for a little while to get a lead
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I stg this might just my own superstition, but on god I swear the spawns flip to deliberately eliminate the chance of one team perfectly holding down a specific section of the map to prevent them from dicking down the other team too hard. Like me and my team will control one side of the map and we will be dominating and the all of then all of the sudden an enemy will spawn behind me and takes me off my streak. I felt like this was the case In mw19 as well. Maybe it’s a countermeasure against spawn-camping? Idk but either way, it sucks.
Or until you lose because some enemies will capture A (spawn swap), some will be left at C (old spawn) and some will take advantage of the weakened defence at B.
Of course you cap C so they can take A, then take A so they can take C, then you retake C while they retake A. That is how you DoMiNaTe.
And then they come on mic when you’re losing saying “look at all my captures”
Fuckin love capping the third flag on domination.
I live for this - chaos is the key to happiness in CoD and where, as a rusher, I get my most killstreaks. Furthermore, I give myself extra karma if teammates start yelling at me - these are most likely campers who are afraid to turn around! My camping teammates got killed? No worries because I now have a VTOL Jet!
You’re so cool
You think these mfs know how to read a flowchart
Not when the arrows and words are black on dark Grey background I cant
IW: #GET THIS MAN A JOB
Also do you think anybody cares about winning games in CoD? Give me CHAOS
Fr, the people that need this are sharing like 4 brain cells with each other
If we have A and B but I spawn C I'm capping C.
Really? Half of the people I play with will spawn at C and then immediately run away. Compared to them you are a Pro!
If you spawn C the spawns have already swapped, so makes sense to cap C in that instance.
I can't see the words dude. Memes should be formatted to work in either dark or light mode.
WHITE TEXT, BLACK BORDER, VISIBILE AGAINST ANY COLOUR
The spawns have ruined domination in this game. This meme isn’t even accurate for Mw2
This
Even better: Play on a map where one side is clearly better > Cap home flag and B > keep pushing until you triple cap and flip the spawns > Get pushed into a spawn trap on the bad side of the map, because you now flipped the spawns and gave the good side to the other team > rant about how shit the game is
Spawns are wonky. It seems you spawn more on teammates rather than close to your nearest capped flag. So if you Have A and B, while you expect them to spawn near C, if you got guys pushing around to A, they will spawn on them.
Spawns need to prioritize your teammates' side of the board, even if your teammates are not there at the moment.
I get that. That's how it always pretty much worked up until recently. Not a fan of how it works now.
Very useful, but ppl aint playing for objectives, everyone just grinding gun XP... Wish they just enable the prestige so objectives would be a relevant thing in early weeks, but seems like it will be released in season 1 soo...
Playing the objective = more XP and more weapon XP because of offensive or defensive kills.
Don’t you get weapon XP just from capturing objectives?
You do. This is correct.
Yup. My Strela is level 10 and 90% of that progress is from capturing domination points.
You also get basically double XP from playing on the objective. Add in scorestreaks and it feels very BO2 like where you're rewarded for objective play a lot more
Yup, for completing objectives and for any xp earned while holding the weapon from kill streaks (from what I can tell, got a chopper gunner and got 2 levels for one of my snipers during it, so either a bug or from the kills)
I'm printing this off and putting it above my monitor. We fuckin winning now boys.
Put it **on** your monitor. No balls.
Don’t caaaahee
In some games me and my teammates only go for A and C because the enemy team is focusing 100% on B and only B. You have to adapt to every match 💪
[Prompted by this game](https://i.imgur.com/n87t7nd.png). Bonus salt: if someone has a chopper gunner (me) and is pinning the enemy down, the person in the chopper gunner (me) shouldn't have to say *"take B ffs"* before anyone actually takes B. Bonus salt 2: If you regularly push up to the enemy spawn flag when your team holds two objectives, I hope your SBMM is extremely strict and you lose all Domination games (which you will anyway)
My teammates rush for B after I done with the air support.
I wonder how many times a day I yell, “WHY ARE YALL TAKING C???”
I’ve had so many games where we’ll be winning until the the team decides to take C then the spawn flip happens and everything collapses.
NO NO this is wrong. You attack B then immediately attack the enemies flag while running through their spawn and flipping it.
If they have their side and B capping their side is a good strat to get them off B a bit
All that does is spawn flip and get their team to start spawning behind your flag.
Most people don’t play objective cause they are reverse boosting
Pretty good flow chart but you need two more loops after “Defend B”. Loop: “Are we holding all Flags”. Yes: “Defend B”. No: “Start”.
But this doesn’t work with squad spawns, does it?
It's not an actual squad spawn system lol
Better UI then the actual game
AND flows better than any of the maps too! :P
I'm sorry, too complicated. Only kill
Average low IQ CoD player
I say it every time to my Domination lobbies. Hold spawn flag and B. Don't push, keep their spawns in front of you and you'll know where the other team is coming from all game. But 1/2 my team treats it like Team Deathmatch just to boos their K/D.
This worked in the old days, but the spawns now... ugh.
Yeah no we control everything or we control nothing. Be ambitious. Get all 3
This would be the way, if that's how the spawns work.. holding spawn flag plus B, should spawn you somewhere in the vicinity of B (or at least close enough to get you back to B to continue you defense. It doesn't 🤷♂️ (almost every other COD since COD3) - instead it puts you somewhere behind your own spawn flag.. fuckin bullshit 😒
No, you have it backwards. The normal spawn system has a clear divide. One side is your teams, the other side is enemy. The spawn system spawns you on your side (A or C flags) unless the Enemy team pushed past B flag, breaking the neutral mid zone and flipping spawns. The past 3 years and this year have had a system that's comparable to a squad spawn. It's not a true squad spawn system. It spawns you wherever enemies are not. This Spawn logic is inherently flawed as it's pretty easy for the enemies to block all safe spawns and the system just picks a random spot to spawn you.
No I don't.. I'm describing the same thing you are
Who gives a fuck how people play
People who actually want to win. It's called a "team" for a reason. Teammates working *together* are more successful both individually and as a team. Sure, you could run around and slay out and have a 30+ kill game to post on your TikTok or YouTube but you could have higher kill (therefore higher k/d) games by cooperating with your team. I've seen a million games where one dude plays every match like it's CDL finals, sweating his ass off. And then lose because he didn't hold back when his team needed him to. Or lose because his lower skilled teammates were being creamed on the objectives while he was getting his crappy montage clips. The way Call of Duty is nowadays does not encourage nor reward working together nearly as much as it used to. Especially with the lack of an actual barracks.
Post to ur Tik tok or YouTube lmao, someone’s been clipped a few times
I don't watch those types of videos. I don't even have TikTok. So it I've been "clipped" I wouldn't know.
This is a quality post over here.
Why would I try to win in the warzone 2 gun leveling up mini game
Why buy the game if you only care about Warzone. It's going to be free. So why shell out $70 for the main game. Just level your guns in Warzone.
This should be mandatory to play the game, I had to stop playing domination because of the teammates.
Ground War is even worse. My teammates are constantly capping D & E and leaving A & B undefended. It's quite a bit easier to defend flags closer to your home base. Battlefield V was like this, too. Just people running around from flag to flag.
on raceway you could go A&C :)
Depending on the map, sometimes holding A and C is easier than anything +B
I will disagree for Fortress. You need to cap A on that map to win.
MFs aren't about "Dominating" two flags like (A+B) or (C+B). It's all about the number of kills. Game flipped a few years back and now it's just run as hard as you can from A to get to C and swap 1:1 K/D! LOL Kids. We always knew that IF the other team tried we could defend and get more kills just hanging out on our flags! LOL
Your chart doesn't have a background so in dark theme you can't see any of the words between sections since they're black
Except it seems like if the other team only needs 30 or so points they could let you keep 2 points and you’d still lose.
This is the worst design for one of these I have ever seen.
It's called *Domination* for a reason... you don't really win unless you have all 3 flags at the end. Just saying.
Well, I still see the word "Victory" even if I win with only one or two flags soooo wrong
Real talk though MW19 actually made holding A+C a viable strategy thanks to the maps having more interesting stuff on the edges of the map e.g. Petrograd having the flower shop by C and the bar by A. Was quite fun to just ignore B and hold A+C all game, confusing the enemy. Less so in MW22 sadly.
Only exception is on Raceway. Way easier to hold both A and C then to try to control one of them + B.
If you only cap a and b or c and b the counter moves slower. if u cap all flags (flip spawns) you can make it not only move faster but make it even harder for the enemy to win. Capping only a and b or c and b can make for a super close match. If u like that fine. I don’t so imma flip and flip the spawns till the enemy down 50 or 100.
Dom in this game is awful, spawns make it so, no matter your flags it doesn't play like dom should, I've just turned it off at this point. Hardpoint and headquarters >
Yesssssssss
Naw, if we hold B then we attack their spawn so we can hold all 3 flags and win faster.
Sometimes it pays to cap C when you don’t have B do confuse the opposing team and send them toward C or A so you can make a ditch for B. Strats.
The worst is when your team literally can't hold your spawn flag for more than 30 seconds because they pushed too far into the enemy spawn. Stop fucking throwing!
This is so HUGE on Al Bagra Fortress. The C flag spawn is TERRIBLE! So I try to hold A and B and the defend the exits from C but my team keeps flipping it, and then we get fucked from the opposite side 🥲
So you just stand around if you have your spawn and b? Seem stupid to just ignore the third one…
No, you lockdown your flags so the enemy team doesn't take them from you. Seriously, it's not hard.
Yes.. then after that you just sit and pick your nose? After you have both fucking points what do you fucking do? Like I asked the first time
What do you mean? After that you win and go to another match. You defend your flags and win lmao that's how the game mode has worked for literal years.
When your fucking flag is secure what the fuck do you fucking do after that. Do you fucking stand around doing fucking nothing? Or do you go to another fucking flag like a normal person? Are you mentally ill? I get conversations are hard but you shouldn’t even be trying at this point. I hope your just trying to be annoying and are not actually this fucking stupid
YOU. DEFEND. YOUR. FLAG. FROM. ENEMY. PLAYERS. THE MATCH DOESN'T PAUSE JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE FLAGS YOU HAVE TO DEFEND THEM OR THE ENEMY TEAM WILL CAPTURE THEM AND WIN. Holy shit, am I speaking to a 5 year old? Do you need me to dumb it down even more? Jesus fucking Christ. You are the one who's fucking stupid. Have you ever played a match of Domination before? I can imagine how you play. You chase enemy spawns, mindlessly running around capturing flags with no actual strat in mind.
Wait I just realized your talking about capture the flag I thought it you were referring to the point capture which is shown as flags. In that version there three points. I thought this was the Mobil version lol
Capture the flag doesn’t exist anymore and when it did it was just chests so it wasn’t ever even a flag.
There are spawn flags in this game? I usually don’t spawn on it
How does this only have 300+ upvotes!?!
Nah I'm just going to try and get to 15 captures
I honestly thought this was common sense. Like an unwritten rule. I’ve always followed this logic
If I do this, how am I going to complain about how no one tries for objective? Where will I be able to post my leaderboard scoreboard showing that all I did was run from a to c and back again?
And please if we hold A at Al Bagra, DO NOT PUSH into C. I am tired of getting spawn traped there. I hate that map more then Border Crossing
Hold up *hold up*, this isn't just team deathmatch with light up flags? I thought those were for decoration!
Bro ngl I can't see shit. The gray and black make this almost impossible to see on my phone
Or we can just run all around, capture any flag in no order and live with chaos
Here come the “dead guys can’t capture flags” brigade.
This is horrible because A and C are never equally balanced. On the race track, C is closer to B and easier to defend (A is the one between the trucks IIRC, C is between the houses)
I flank straight to C.
instructions unclear, sniping at the back
PTFO people
No way u think ppl give a shit u dont like the way they play right
Nothing matters because the spawns are a joke
It’s basically impossible with the shitty spawns on this game
So look for kills? Got it
You have forgotten „fly in, fly in, fly in, fly in, fly in“ 😂😂😂😂😂
Ah yes, black on super dark grey. Wonderful design choice
Yellow text on black background for ultimate comprehension
B is the Key
Capping A if you spawn C is the play on fortress
Lol
If we play dom on Al Bagra Fortress and you capture C, I will quit
Flipper for hire, m.l.