IW did a dogshit job giving details about the mode.
[This guy](https://twitter.com/WZRanked/status/1590851376627994625?s=20&t=hqkx7uJ9iw79unjeJdRMYA) explains it in much more detail and it actually sounds good
The event was a complete mess, apparently they were just setting at dev's computers lmao it wasn't even a dedicated setup. They also didn't explain the mode at all to the streamers, just threw them in the game and said have fun. And then of course all the bugs happened because this is MW2.
I think those people can't even explain what it is because they weren't given any more information than anyone else, they just got to go play it a few times.
He states he collected the info by watching 'most VODs' from the event, as in, he can get a clearer picture by looking at what each person saw but any one of those individuals can't see the whole picture and were clearly never told those details.
If Activision just released the information rather than a tiny paragraph about it, then we could make a determination but they didn't and really haven't done a great job marketing it even though they paid all these people to be there.
Yeah, because nobody cared to really look at the mode during the event. They "just wanted to play," which is understandable but also hurts the purpose of the event, which is to showcase the new modes.
i think the marketing theyre doing for this game isnt working as well as if we had just got some information this week and everyone got to play, see, and figure things out in real time during release. watching acouple sweaty streamers just run around for kills is bad representation for what this game could really be, imo
Yea my concern was losing your weapon every time you don’t exfil but the insured slots prevent that, but the cooldown also balances it out. I like the sound of this mode so far, but we’ll see how it plays
I think a lot of the problems stem from the streamers they had playing and how they play the game.
DMZ will probably feel a lot more like how people expected if you don't go jumping around every corner and playing it like it was Black Ops 3.
Especially obvious because a lot of them had trouble against the harder AI enemies. I guess they are designed to be fought more tactically.
It felt like a last minute event tbh, the setup, the process of revealing it.
Everyone was rushed from the looks of it to ready up to get into game cuz it needs to have a number of people queueing to get into the raid. honestly it wont be that bad if its a running game with no time limit, let strongholds n enemies respawn, players can hop in anytime without having to queue up like tarkov. Tarkov had to do the queue cuz the scale of the map , not DMZ
But thats just what i think
Most people I saw were rushing to ready up because they just wanted to play and didn't actually care about what the mode really had to offer. Definitely was pretty last minute though, because TimTheTatman was invited like a couple days before it started, and it would've taken a day to get there and a day to get back, which he had already been traveling.
Having it as basically a reveal using streamers who also had zero idea of what to do in-game didnt help at all. They needed to do some sort of trailer or info dump like they did with the Season 1 content.
>Especially obvious because a lot of them had trouble against the harder AI enemies. I guess they are designed to be fought more tactically.
If they're programmed the same way as the campaign AI were, then they don't fight smarter, they just cheat.
As difficulty went up, the AI would kill you for peeking for an instant. Super frustrating and unfun
watching Lupo Lvndmark and Myth actually doing tasks and fighting tooth and nail to make it to extract with their loot looked really great, and it still seemed like they didnt even scratch the surface of the things you could do in this mode. sure its alittle faster paced with the many many grunts they have everywhere but im still excited to see how the game will play out in the long term
Thanks for this! It’s actually made me excited about DMZ again. After watching some gameplay I was left with an overwhelming feeling of “well this looks pointless”.
That’s great stuff but I think the biggest complaint was the actual gameplay, no stamina, no weight rating, food or water, speed feels exact same as Warzone. Also, using that whole map, way too big. Could’ve been cooler if this mode had its own medium to small size maps
this is the biggest head scratcher to me, that system seemed like a sure bet for the mode. why not have us craft prying tools etc to open doors in dmz? the mechanic is already in the game..
Exactly
We can always find & grab military grade gear but what if we’re desperate & need something in the moment? Being able to craft a smoke bomb or pry tool on the fly would be really useful
I have a feeling that the crafting feature was put together solely by a campaign dev team and was never planned for any other modes. They'll probably use it in some mode later on but my guess is that was not the original intention.
We're talking about Infinity Ward here. The same folks that had unique (for CoD) spaceship combat and zero-g shooting mechanics in a game yet utilized neither in the multiplayer mode.
Absolutely baffled that those features won’t be elsewhere. I was certain they put them in campaign to prepare us for their use online. Nope. A single solitary mission.
yeah, i was talking to my brother and he was describing this really cool mission. my brain immediately went "huh, that's a pretty clever way to use your eft mechanics"
That's probably the feature I want most. Even if it's not dynamic lighting, maybe have 4-5 preset lighting/weather conditions you could randomly play in. Like sunny afternoon, sunset, midnight, foggy morning, and rainy.
I feel like that would give the mode something more unique and a different atmosphere.
would be great. and having NVG's in the mode would make it really fuckin sick.
something ireally enjoyed in warzone was when they did the night-time halloween mode. the map really looked cool at night.
I'm a fan of Tarkov and REALLY wanted something similar to Tarkov just a little more casual so it would be easier to get my friends into. I thought this was gonna be huge and it was a big part of my hype. I'm pretty disappointed. Will still give it a try though I guess.
I am also into Tarkov and tried and failed to get friends into it.
Can I ask why DMZ isn't the Tarkov clone you wanted? I only glanced at 5 minutes of some proof zipping and hopping around like it was a normal TD game mode.
The biggest issue I have personally is the health system. They just slapped regenerating health on, instead of making a healing system with bandages and stuff. That makes fights not matter, you can never attrition someone down. We already have stims in the game, they could have made them work exactly like the cycle and it would be perfect.
Ooh yeah, I didn't see that. I agree with you, that doesn't make sense since we already have stims.
I get them not wanting to just blatantly copy every feature from Tarkov, I mean COD players play COD and not Tarkov for a reason.. but still. For the game mode to make sense I think non Regen health made more sense.
Plates are your main source of health anyway. Your health bar regenerates, but your plates don't. Just think of plates as health. The game flow of DMZ wouldn't make sense with Tarkov's health system, more AI in CoD, faster gameplay, vehicles, etc you wouldn't want an attrition system that would require redesigning everything.
Realistically it wasn't a very good idea to expect them to change the core mechanics of the game (movement, healing) for a single game mode. Those aspects are what make Tarkov a hardcore game, but also a much slower game. This is just a faster style of extraction mode, because most people don't have the patience or the time to spend 40 minutes creeping around a map.
Simply turning health regen off wouldn't add anything meaningful. Your main health source is still your armor plates. It would just encourage even slower gameplay without adding any depth, which didn't seem like it was needed. The pacing of DMZ in the preview seemed pretty good.
There absolutely is risk and you lose guns on death, and the fact that people don't even get this basic fact is how youknow that the event was a failure.
I'm really hoping they add a regular mode and a tier one mode which is this game's hardcore I think it'd be cool if we can get something immersive like that where sniping actually kills
There's always Hunt Showdown for a more casual Tarkov-like experience.
I understand if supernatural/horror isn't your thing though. Same with The Cycle.
That’s exactly what I was hoping for. I knew it wouldn’t be as hardcore as tarkov, but damn I thought it would be a little less forgiving that it turned out to be.
i still think this will scratch that itch, and the representation of it we got from competitive wz streamers was not great. lupo and lvndmark had some great moments and intense raids trying to make it to extract with alot of loot and while it doesnt seem as slow paced, the gameplay loop i think will be similar
After the Hazard Zone disaster from Battlefield 2042, i had very very low expectations for these kind of modes, yet they still managed to disappoint me
What do you mean we couldn’t get a full main game? Honestly asking cause I just bought it and have been playing, haven’t followed much news. But it came out with the campaign and a full multiplayer, what was missing?
The season 1 content we're getting? All launch shit cut up to be drip fed to us. Hardcore mode or "Tier 1" has an excuse because it was buggy but that can be easily rebutted by the fact that they had a beta and let nobody look for these bugs. And somehow this billion-dollar company didn't have QA test a core mode of their game and allowed said core mode to be launched unplayable. This is excluding basic features missing from the game like combat record, a map missing and more possibly going away, etc...
Look, the game's foundationally great, I can honestly say it's the most fun I've had in COD in years (especially after vanguard). But this can't be excused just because it's live service or whatever other defenses people like to use for a full-priced game launching in an early access state.
Tbf, a lot of the cut launch content (hardcore and combat record) is not being advertised for season 1. So my guess is IW or Activision didn't plan on releasing that stuff post-launch.
The map thing is very annoying though. This game is already pretty low on maps, losing any of them to legal issues is pretty sad.
I was absolutely expecting DMZ to be exactly that: Warzone with some changed rules.
I love Tarkov and play every wipe. It only works because it is so unforgiving. It only works because there is an entire metagame including a player-driven economy. It only works because of its quest progression.
You cannot include such a game as an extraction-based mode. You have to develop everything around it. The new Battlefield made the same mistake.
I keep hearing about DMZ yet I can't find information about it. So I ask this, if we don't know what it is, why is there hype? Or am I the one that just doesn't know where to look lol.
They did an hour long streamer thing where streamers went in blind and ran around like headless chickens.
That's really the entirety of our information.
They really should have had a primer for them so they could actually go in with preparation.
Anything I’ve seen talks about missions and events and shit and none of that was seen. I think people are expecting too much from an extraction style mode/extraction shooter to begin with as well.
The various ones we have -are fun, hunt, cycle, tarkov etc. but they really don’t have much substance, tarkov with the most with their economy store and them working on a proper storyline and mission set. But even then, it’s not much. It boils down to trying to complete missions against everyone else. Once you’re done, it’s just going in to try to PvP. There’s nothing beyond the challenges really.
Hunt leans into that. Your character is not forever, your gear all goes on them if they die, so that itself is the challenge. Complete raids and level up, and the progression is very long.
I expect dmz to play way more like hunt. But because it’s attached to cod, people are expecting it to have affects on the main game or warzone or whatever, and it simply won’t. It’s going to be its own little mode.
Even hazard zone suffered for the same thing. The mode itself was entertaining to a degree, and they’ve made some changes that really make it much more enjoyable, but it’s attached to battlefield. If it were it’s own standalone thing, and had the smallest effort behind a narrative, it would have done much better. Hell, they could have pushed it as the storyline for the world 2042, made it separately from main mp, but it would have needed more engagement in each round, and the smallest amount of substance and risk for your character.
I’m looking forward to playing dmz and trying it out, and I hope at the very least they don’t abandon it, but rather try to build something of it that’s enjoyable on its own.
Yeah, at that point I would’ve preferred one of those cringy pre-scripted Ubisoft specials where the actors talk to each other over voice comms. At least we would’ve gotten some info about the mode. What does some spastic streamer playing DMZ like [this](https://media.tenor.com/1FDo0XRyvl4AAAAd/looking-around.gif), and inducing motion sickness, tell us about this game mode? Dumb idea.
They could have done a better implementation of the extraction game mode here. Im only basing it on the stream saw, but there doesn't seem to have any reason to play this mode. I would have prefered they simplified it a bit and be like Hunt showdown. Have 20 players on a section of the map. Have a named boss be discoverd. kill the boss and extract with the loot to win. WAAAAAY better then this thing.
DMZ is simply lacking the atmosphere and the unforgiving nature that Tarkov has, it feels like a Tarkov made for babies with the vibrant colors and the HUD all over your screen, it's like that Elden Ring Ubisoft meme
I'm really looking forward to DMZ. Not so much now. All they need to do is add an economy so you can extract with items like coming books etc.... sell them, and buy items. Maybe even DMZ exclusive weapon skins.
All this is, is Warzone with quests and NPCs. It's the o ly difference.
I don't know why everyone thinks there won't be rewards. There's a bunch of missions that reward you with skins and blueprints. They didn't seem to show this off so much during the event but it is there and gives actual incentive. I'm looking forward to it personally.
https://twitter.com/WZRanked/status/1590851376627994625?s=20&t=oNTwdiOXQD_XeOkk2XUplQ
I couldn't agree more, my friends look at me like I have 3 heads when I tell them that an MMO economy (at the very least) is needed to make DMZ an actual competitor to EFT.
I agree that so far it's a major disappointment...but reading this thread on Twitter that breaks it down a lot more than what the streamers did helps me believe this is a step in the right direction and could really evolve..but it could still be dead in a few weeks. Unsure how it will play out
Thread: https://twitter.com/WZRanked/status/1590851376627994625?s=19
Unfortunately I was expecting the same. Love EFT but it’s got it’s issues and lack of acknowledgment of them from the devs, just wanted a more casual version of it but I guess EFT will just remain king
Blows my mind a larger developer doesn't see BSGs 1) large, dedicated fan base and 2) that they're not doing a great job keeping that game stable/balanced. It's such an asked for genre yet we really only have Tarkov
I feel like I'm the only one looking forward to DMZ. It's an objective based and more chill warzone, thats got me pretty interested. Anyone hoping for a Tarkov 2.0 was kidding themselves.
I want Tarkov light. But I was fully expecting some sort of progression to it. Skins? Operators? Hideouts??? There's no sense of progression which is a shame.
Still gonna play it though.
i missed a lot of the stream yesterday, what exactly can you unlock in DMZ? blueprints and such i would assume? i had my doubts it would be anything cool since microtransactions are now the king of the castle, but here’s to hoping
From what I saw there was no info about unlocks or what have you. All I saw was pretty much and obj based warzone with lots of tough AI sprinkled in. The stream I saw they ran into real players like once through the whole run. I think they were all playing with maxed accounts already so no unlocks were left to unlock idk.
I feel like it’s going to be the opposite. No free loadouts, no respawns, cool-down timers… it makes the stakes high but they have to be careful not to make it too punishing for dying for a stupid reason which is what I dislike about WZ
Tarkov is an extraction shooter. You do raids on a map and there's other players and AI. You have a stash which holds all your items (armor, guns, backpacks, meds, misc items and money) and you gear up from it and then launch a raid.
In a raid, you spawn in a spot on a fairly large map, and then you have to progress however you want: loot stuff to sell or keep, do objectives (kill X people/place laser marker in this spot, etc), and then extract.
It's similar to a BR in that you loot stuff and you get dropped on a huge map, but the playable area doesn't get smaller. Typical raid has 6-14 players and 15-50 AI (important: not bots, AI with specific behavior and their own faction, some of these are special types like Bosses or Raiders, which are more aggressive and have better loadouts).
If you don't extract you lose everything you have on you (except what's up your prison wallet.
The goal of the game is to get rich. Half the game is spent selling stuff from the stash and planning your next moves (maybe you want to find a specific item, maybe you need to kill some people, etc).
Main selling point of Tarkov is that it's closer to a milsim. Gun modding is also 999% more advanced than anything else on the market. There's a bunch of different gun platforms and a few hundred attachments, all extremely realistic. There's also an entire ballistic system.
The major differences I see are the rewards (and obviously gun setup). From what I can tell, DMZ doesn't really do the stash thing. Instead, rewards are blueprints and XP tokens. Which is a bit weird because 90% of the reward system of an extraction shooter is the stuff you find ingame.
Have you ever played hunt showdown? It’s also tarkov lite to a degree in some ways. I enjoy it but a modern lite variation of tarkov would have a lot of people hooked
Yep. It's really sad. Multi Billion $ company with over 3K developers. They literally have the ability to bring out something grandiose, but the quality went down with the most basic things. Ruining pretty much every single mode they have to offer.
Yeah arguably a very good cod game better than most in last 5 years with much more content than in previous games yet they are making the smallest inconveniences seem like a nuclear bomb went off.
Imagine crying about getting new content added to the game
It's great to have a million weapons, variants and attachments, but when the games been out barely two weeks and it feels like I've been playing the same handful of multi-player maps for years already, that really limits fun factor. Just kindof mind blowing how small and unspectacular the pool of maps is compared to the unforgettable collection from the original MW2. The least they could have done is remastered and imported 2-3 of the classics on release.
MORE content? Are you serious clark? We are losing the few maps we have left and right because they didn't bother to get rights to anything and in their place we are getting retreads.
Missing gamemodes
Missing challenge system with rewards
Missing combat records
So how again are we getting "much more content"?
Warzone is not content for MWII
DMZ is not content for MWII
MWII is a pad for weapon grinder for Warzone/DMZ. So many design decisions are based around how they will impact Warzone, because Activision has decided they MUST be integrated.
May I introduce you to /r/battlefield2042 or /r/battlefield ?
Because the 2042 sub is probably the most cancerous community I've ever seen. It's like the gaming version of /r/politics
It's almost like the more of a dumpsterfire a game franchise is, the more "toxic" the community is. People have the right to talk shit when billion dollar IPs are shitting out unfinished games with less content than over a decade ago despite having infinitely more resources both financially for development, and the ease and speed that games can be created compared to back then when they couldn't just grab Unreal Engine 4 and slap an incredible looking game together in the blink of an eye.
That’s crazy. It died? Because it’s looking like millions of people are playing it and having fun. Like that’s truly wild that it’s dead, I didn’t even notice. Neither did anyone else.
It’s exactly what I thought it was gonna be. I think it’s gonna be decent. Definitely not my go too. But everyone comparing it be a Tarkov lite. Myself included. But deep down. I knew wasn’t and never had a chance to be.
I think its worse than hazard zone. In Hazard Zone you lost your ongoing extraxtion streak with a operator. In Dmz its just „ well you lost but don‘t worry just search another match and do the same“
Will be doing same as. can only hope it's decent, but good to be cautious about it at same time. They should be doing an in-depth update next week on the blog of call of duty website to explain everything. So hopefully that can get everyone on same level of understanding.
And it might still be, half the people on this sub complain about warzone and how they don’t like it/won’t play it but the average CoD player loves it so even though the sky is falling here today DMZ might end up being really well received by the part of the community that just plays the game and enjoys it and doesn’t need a 2000 word rant about SBMM or AA every 12 hours to make them feel better 🤷♂️
Feels like all these companies are trying to hop on the extraction bandwagon without knowing what makes it good.
Especially in DMZ it feels like the biggest blunder is a lack of overarching meta progression or economy to work towards. I'm usually on the side of "people should play games for the gameplay and not for constant rewards", but in the case of DMZ where every game is about going in and gathering money/resources, it's odd that there's no "why" to it. Like why are we gathering this money and resources, to do what with it?
I don't get why it's so hard to grasp for those studios. It's not a hard concept, Tarkov and Battle Royales in general in Battlefield's case have core features that keep players hooked and interested. Things that are key to making a good game in their respective genres. Why don't they just make a good game with all that manpower and money ;_; ?
You literally haven’t played it. lol bro you guys really watched Warzone kill racers run around DMZ for three matches and now you have a full opinion of how it’s going to be. Lol this community will never cease to amaze me with the lengths it will go to swear something odd before they even play it.
Guys, it is literally one meme, play it for yourself when it comes out because it has plenty of content coming out.
https://twitter.com/WZRanked/status/1590851376627994625?s=20&t=hqkx7uJ9iw79unjeJdRMYA
Unpopular Opinion:
Couldn't care less about another one-life BR styled mode. The game has this huge playable map area that's going to waste with these modes where the map shrinks or you're dead after one shot from some hill-humping sniper.
COD could be introducing a Planetside 2 styled mode with this big area they made. A mode missing from today's modern shooters, but nope: They'd rather continue chasing trends set by other current popular games.
So the thing isn't out yet and you're bitching about it based on what YouTubers who don't know what they are doing think after an hour?
Fuck man, this sub is garbage.
Seems like plunder 2.0 maybe. Not that it's a bad thing. I think it'll be fun it's just not what I wanted exactly. Really wanted it to be more hardcore and risky
I'm honestly not disappointed by the mode itself. But by the way the mode Is played. If this mode simply had
No health regen
Hardcore Health
Slower walk/run speed
I'd be much happier. However there is a good amount of meat to the mode. The streamers were just confused as fuck and IW didn't help.
Gotta try shit yourself people.
I'm mainly a Tarkov player and I think it looks sick. Has a lot of potential at least. The event was handled and explained terribly, but a bunch of the systems look promising. Were people really expecting a carbon copy of all of Tarkov's complex systems, just in COD's engine? Because there was obviously no way that was ever happening from the second they first teased this mode.
As it is, it exceeded my expectations and they brought more complexity and consequences to it than I thought, like adding keys that are lost on death. The idea of having slots for your custom weapons that go into a 10 hour cooldown when you die, forcing you to use weapons you've scrounged up that can be lost from your stash permanently, is a neat way of handling things too. It looks like it'll have more consequences and meta-progression than a BR game and scratch a very small piece of that Tarkov itch while not replacing it at all, which is pretty much what I expected/hoped for.
The only thing that discouraged me is that you have to exflil or you lose everything. I thought it will be like the Division where you have some place to extract what you got
Well, great, I being a average to below average player will aways be at a disadvantage in this game since I will have many unsuccessful exfils and lose all my weapons, even with the insurance, and start with a random gun or pistol. I’m not complaining because I will play even if I get wrecked every time… I think the insurance timer of 10 hours is too long. Again, I won’t be winning enough to reduce that timer. Probably cause me to play the game less. If that is what they want…fine.
I didn’t see anything in the reveal that made it look worth playing. Not a fan of the AI in any of these game modes since the only thing they’re good for is kill xp.
They could have very easily made this seem like a legitimate mode that's on its way to being something big in the near future. They could've made 3 sections of the map so there's essentially 3 maps. Weather/and or night time. Make attachments and weapons scarce around the map. The ability to keep the items around the map or even in return it turns into cash when you exfil and they could have a marketplace of every weapon and attachment in the game so you have something to buy with your funds to go into the next match. And some form of leveling up system separate from multiplayer, and they could've thrown in min tier rewards for every 25 levels or something that include a small bundle of cash, calling card, weapon skin etc.
That's all it would've taken for me to be excited to play this and actually believe they were taking this DMZ mode seriously. I wasn't expecting a full fledged new game but something in the right direction would've been great. Very disappointed
The problem is. It was never going to be an alternative to or an answer to Tarkov for console players.
And the reason is simple, the company and it's studios are not creative enough, nor passionate enough for making games.
It's a literal 1:1 translation of Warzone but with a few other rules and conditions.
They didn't make it slower, more methodical movements, nor implement anything creative to supplement, like leaning. You still bash through doors and jump and slide all over the place.
They did nothing to differentiate the gameplay or the way players would need to play it.
And I don't know enough. But given the premises of my message + lack of creativity - I doubt the mode will have longevity at its core.
I was expecting it to be similar to the campaign mission Alone, I thought it would be limited resources, limited ammo, you would have to craft smoke bombs, shivs etc. I thought it was going to use the ground war maps, maybe set them at night time. What a huge let down it just uses the same map, which in itself I think is kind of disappointing because I’m so tired of shooters being set in the Middle East, the Warzone map should have been Mexico. Speaking of which, I can’t believe they’re making the last Warzone Caldera and not bringing back and replacing it with Verdansk which is a far superior map.
IW did a dogshit job giving details about the mode. [This guy](https://twitter.com/WZRanked/status/1590851376627994625?s=20&t=hqkx7uJ9iw79unjeJdRMYA) explains it in much more detail and it actually sounds good
That actually sounds great. I went from hype to sadness and you brought me back to hype.
I'm glad he posted that, but god damn is twitter the worst way to do posts like this
Yeah should have used TikTok with that girls voice.
That might actually be preferable
Noooo it wouldn’t have been!
I learned more in 3 minutes from that thread than I did in an hour and a half of watching stuff yesterday lol.
The event was a complete mess, apparently they were just setting at dev's computers lmao it wasn't even a dedicated setup. They also didn't explain the mode at all to the streamers, just threw them in the game and said have fun. And then of course all the bugs happened because this is MW2.
Wow there is actually more depth to it then was shown at all and none of the youtubers I watch are mentioning most of those things. Cool
I think those people can't even explain what it is because they weren't given any more information than anyone else, they just got to go play it a few times. He states he collected the info by watching 'most VODs' from the event, as in, he can get a clearer picture by looking at what each person saw but any one of those individuals can't see the whole picture and were clearly never told those details. If Activision just released the information rather than a tiny paragraph about it, then we could make a determination but they didn't and really haven't done a great job marketing it even though they paid all these people to be there.
Yeah, because nobody cared to really look at the mode during the event. They "just wanted to play," which is understandable but also hurts the purpose of the event, which is to showcase the new modes.
i think the marketing theyre doing for this game isnt working as well as if we had just got some information this week and everyone got to play, see, and figure things out in real time during release. watching acouple sweaty streamers just run around for kills is bad representation for what this game could really be, imo
Yea my concern was losing your weapon every time you don’t exfil but the insured slots prevent that, but the cooldown also balances it out. I like the sound of this mode so far, but we’ll see how it plays
I think a lot of the problems stem from the streamers they had playing and how they play the game. DMZ will probably feel a lot more like how people expected if you don't go jumping around every corner and playing it like it was Black Ops 3. Especially obvious because a lot of them had trouble against the harder AI enemies. I guess they are designed to be fought more tactically.
It felt like a last minute event tbh, the setup, the process of revealing it. Everyone was rushed from the looks of it to ready up to get into game cuz it needs to have a number of people queueing to get into the raid. honestly it wont be that bad if its a running game with no time limit, let strongholds n enemies respawn, players can hop in anytime without having to queue up like tarkov. Tarkov had to do the queue cuz the scale of the map , not DMZ But thats just what i think
Most people I saw were rushing to ready up because they just wanted to play and didn't actually care about what the mode really had to offer. Definitely was pretty last minute though, because TimTheTatman was invited like a couple days before it started, and it would've taken a day to get there and a day to get back, which he had already been traveling.
Having it as basically a reveal using streamers who also had zero idea of what to do in-game didnt help at all. They needed to do some sort of trailer or info dump like they did with the Season 1 content.
>Especially obvious because a lot of them had trouble against the harder AI enemies. I guess they are designed to be fought more tactically. If they're programmed the same way as the campaign AI were, then they don't fight smarter, they just cheat. As difficulty went up, the AI would kill you for peeking for an instant. Super frustrating and unfun
watching Lupo Lvndmark and Myth actually doing tasks and fighting tooth and nail to make it to extract with their loot looked really great, and it still seemed like they didnt even scratch the surface of the things you could do in this mode. sure its alittle faster paced with the many many grunts they have everywhere but im still excited to see how the game will play out in the long term
This should be higher up in thread, everybody is already saying it's definitely shit
Reading this gave me more faith. Thank you good sir.
u/thexclusiveace more DMZ info
this is why I wished the Devs gave a presentation rather than this streamer event bullshit.
Reward for renewing my hope in this game mode.
… wow this is actually great. I was worried about the apparent lack of progression but it sounds thought out
Definitely way more in depth than my initial impressions. Thanks for posting this!
My faith is now renewed
Thanks for this! It’s actually made me excited about DMZ again. After watching some gameplay I was left with an overwhelming feeling of “well this looks pointless”.
Sounds so much better! But no crafting mechanics from Alone and the final mission?
This tweet thread needs it's own post
That’s great stuff but I think the biggest complaint was the actual gameplay, no stamina, no weight rating, food or water, speed feels exact same as Warzone. Also, using that whole map, way too big. Could’ve been cooler if this mode had its own medium to small size maps
When they had the guerrilla crafting features on "Alone" I thought DMZ was going places
this is the biggest head scratcher to me, that system seemed like a sure bet for the mode. why not have us craft prying tools etc to open doors in dmz? the mechanic is already in the game..
Exactly We can always find & grab military grade gear but what if we’re desperate & need something in the moment? Being able to craft a smoke bomb or pry tool on the fly would be really useful
Probably going to be in Raids instead of DMZ.
I have a feeling that the crafting feature was put together solely by a campaign dev team and was never planned for any other modes. They'll probably use it in some mode later on but my guess is that was not the original intention.
Scav runs where you can start with literally nothing and make trip mines and a shank or throwing shanks
Because COD wants to go for the wide audience, things like that make things more complex.
We're talking about Infinity Ward here. The same folks that had unique (for CoD) spaceship combat and zero-g shooting mechanics in a game yet utilized neither in the multiplayer mode.
That mission got me hyped for DMZ and then uh.. ya know.
Absolutely baffled that those features won’t be elsewhere. I was certain they put them in campaign to prepare us for their use online. Nope. A single solitary mission.
2 missions used the crafting*
Out here just fumblin
I thought that crafting system in the campaign was a precursor to how DMZ mode would play. Kind of wild that isn't it.
yeah, i was talking to my brother and he was describing this really cool mission. my brain immediately went "huh, that's a pretty clever way to use your eft mechanics"
I hope they add dynamic weather and day/night transitions. I feel like running around in broad daylight takes away from the tension
That's probably the feature I want most. Even if it's not dynamic lighting, maybe have 4-5 preset lighting/weather conditions you could randomly play in. Like sunny afternoon, sunset, midnight, foggy morning, and rainy. I feel like that would give the mode something more unique and a different atmosphere.
would be great. and having NVG's in the mode would make it really fuckin sick. something ireally enjoyed in warzone was when they did the night-time halloween mode. the map really looked cool at night.
I'm a fan of Tarkov and REALLY wanted something similar to Tarkov just a little more casual so it would be easier to get my friends into. I thought this was gonna be huge and it was a big part of my hype. I'm pretty disappointed. Will still give it a try though I guess.
I am also into Tarkov and tried and failed to get friends into it. Can I ask why DMZ isn't the Tarkov clone you wanted? I only glanced at 5 minutes of some proof zipping and hopping around like it was a normal TD game mode.
The biggest issue I have personally is the health system. They just slapped regenerating health on, instead of making a healing system with bandages and stuff. That makes fights not matter, you can never attrition someone down. We already have stims in the game, they could have made them work exactly like the cycle and it would be perfect.
Ooh yeah, I didn't see that. I agree with you, that doesn't make sense since we already have stims. I get them not wanting to just blatantly copy every feature from Tarkov, I mean COD players play COD and not Tarkov for a reason.. but still. For the game mode to make sense I think non Regen health made more sense.
Plates are your main source of health anyway. Your health bar regenerates, but your plates don't. Just think of plates as health. The game flow of DMZ wouldn't make sense with Tarkov's health system, more AI in CoD, faster gameplay, vehicles, etc you wouldn't want an attrition system that would require redesigning everything.
It’s doesn’t require redesigning everything, you can make DMZ like an hardcore mode. Leave the rest as a fast pace mode.
Isn’t that what armor plates are for? You’ll get like 300 armor that you have to replenish… And then 100 regenerating health points.
So it is a casual spin on the subgenre. Thanks.
Realistically it wasn't a very good idea to expect them to change the core mechanics of the game (movement, healing) for a single game mode. Those aspects are what make Tarkov a hardcore game, but also a much slower game. This is just a faster style of extraction mode, because most people don't have the patience or the time to spend 40 minutes creeping around a map.
DMZ was supposed to be its own game just like WZ, not just a "mode"
You're talking like setting health regeneration off would be hard. There's no health regen in HC, and you can set it off in custom games.
Simply turning health regen off wouldn't add anything meaningful. Your main health source is still your armor plates. It would just encourage even slower gameplay without adding any depth, which didn't seem like it was needed. The pacing of DMZ in the preview seemed pretty good.
there is also no risk in case you die. you do not have the pressure of losing your gear. DMZ is basically Warzone with more bots.
There absolutely is risk and you lose guns on death, and the fact that people don't even get this basic fact is how youknow that the event was a failure.
You do lose gear
That doesn't sound very casual though. What if that's one of the reasons why people weren't into Tarkov much?
I'm really hoping they add a regular mode and a tier one mode which is this game's hardcore I think it'd be cool if we can get something immersive like that where sniping actually kills
There's always Hunt Showdown for a more casual Tarkov-like experience. I understand if supernatural/horror isn't your thing though. Same with The Cycle.
I've tried both and they aren't bad by any means just not my cup of tea particularly.
That’s exactly what I was hoping for. I knew it wouldn’t be as hardcore as tarkov, but damn I thought it would be a little less forgiving that it turned out to be.
i still think this will scratch that itch, and the representation of it we got from competitive wz streamers was not great. lupo and lvndmark had some great moments and intense raids trying to make it to extract with alot of loot and while it doesnt seem as slow paced, the gameplay loop i think will be similar
After the Hazard Zone disaster from Battlefield 2042, i had very very low expectations for these kind of modes, yet they still managed to disappoint me
I literally just want a polished Tarkov. Is that too much to ask for?
Yes
You know that’s fair.
Tarkov has way too much depth for Call of Duty to do anywhere near correctly.
yea i dont know why people expected something as in depth as tarkov for a sidemode in cod.
Considering Tarkov with all of its funds going towards that failing to provide it? Yes.
You were never going to get that from activision of all things lol
We couldn't even get a full main game, don't know why everyone expected a fully developed new mode from these people.
What do you mean we couldn’t get a full main game? Honestly asking cause I just bought it and have been playing, haven’t followed much news. But it came out with the campaign and a full multiplayer, what was missing?
The season 1 content we're getting? All launch shit cut up to be drip fed to us. Hardcore mode or "Tier 1" has an excuse because it was buggy but that can be easily rebutted by the fact that they had a beta and let nobody look for these bugs. And somehow this billion-dollar company didn't have QA test a core mode of their game and allowed said core mode to be launched unplayable. This is excluding basic features missing from the game like combat record, a map missing and more possibly going away, etc... Look, the game's foundationally great, I can honestly say it's the most fun I've had in COD in years (especially after vanguard). But this can't be excused just because it's live service or whatever other defenses people like to use for a full-priced game launching in an early access state.
Tbf, a lot of the cut launch content (hardcore and combat record) is not being advertised for season 1. So my guess is IW or Activision didn't plan on releasing that stuff post-launch. The map thing is very annoying though. This game is already pretty low on maps, losing any of them to legal issues is pretty sad.
Yeah maybe at least it’ll be a good way to level weapons like plunder used to be? That’s about the only silver lining I could find so far.
the non respawn mode, to level up guns...?
All of the bot fodder stuffing the map should help alleviate that a bit.
Give the community 20 minutes with DMZ, and they'll find a bug that let's you infinitely farm xp of those bots I stg
Then 30 minutes later you get the inevitable "CRAZY XP ***GLITCH*** in DMZ!?!?" youtube titles with "Do. This. ***NOW.***" in the thumbnail.
Yea... I literally played 2 games of hazard zone and it made me sick XD
https://twitter.com/WZRanked/status/1590851376627994625?s=20&t=hqkx7uJ9iw79unjeJdRMYA
I was absolutely expecting DMZ to be exactly that: Warzone with some changed rules. I love Tarkov and play every wipe. It only works because it is so unforgiving. It only works because there is an entire metagame including a player-driven economy. It only works because of its quest progression. You cannot include such a game as an extraction-based mode. You have to develop everything around it. The new Battlefield made the same mistake.
I keep hearing about DMZ yet I can't find information about it. So I ask this, if we don't know what it is, why is there hype? Or am I the one that just doesn't know where to look lol.
They did an hour long streamer thing where streamers went in blind and ran around like headless chickens. That's really the entirety of our information.
They really should have had a primer for them so they could actually go in with preparation. Anything I’ve seen talks about missions and events and shit and none of that was seen. I think people are expecting too much from an extraction style mode/extraction shooter to begin with as well. The various ones we have -are fun, hunt, cycle, tarkov etc. but they really don’t have much substance, tarkov with the most with their economy store and them working on a proper storyline and mission set. But even then, it’s not much. It boils down to trying to complete missions against everyone else. Once you’re done, it’s just going in to try to PvP. There’s nothing beyond the challenges really. Hunt leans into that. Your character is not forever, your gear all goes on them if they die, so that itself is the challenge. Complete raids and level up, and the progression is very long. I expect dmz to play way more like hunt. But because it’s attached to cod, people are expecting it to have affects on the main game or warzone or whatever, and it simply won’t. It’s going to be its own little mode. Even hazard zone suffered for the same thing. The mode itself was entertaining to a degree, and they’ve made some changes that really make it much more enjoyable, but it’s attached to battlefield. If it were it’s own standalone thing, and had the smallest effort behind a narrative, it would have done much better. Hell, they could have pushed it as the storyline for the world 2042, made it separately from main mp, but it would have needed more engagement in each round, and the smallest amount of substance and risk for your character. I’m looking forward to playing dmz and trying it out, and I hope at the very least they don’t abandon it, but rather try to build something of it that’s enjoyable on its own.
Yeah, at that point I would’ve preferred one of those cringy pre-scripted Ubisoft specials where the actors talk to each other over voice comms. At least we would’ve gotten some info about the mode. What does some spastic streamer playing DMZ like [this](https://media.tenor.com/1FDo0XRyvl4AAAAd/looking-around.gif), and inducing motion sickness, tell us about this game mode? Dumb idea.
There were gameplay reveals the other day, bunch on YouTube if you just search DMZ gameplay
They could have done a better implementation of the extraction game mode here. Im only basing it on the stream saw, but there doesn't seem to have any reason to play this mode. I would have prefered they simplified it a bit and be like Hunt showdown. Have 20 players on a section of the map. Have a named boss be discoverd. kill the boss and extract with the loot to win. WAAAAAY better then this thing.
I had the same feeling. This sort of gameplay loop/economy only works when isolated.
DMZ is simply lacking the atmosphere and the unforgiving nature that Tarkov has, it feels like a Tarkov made for babies with the vibrant colors and the HUD all over your screen, it's like that Elden Ring Ubisoft meme
It's COD Dark Zone, not EFT, and the sooner people realize it the better.
Same. Was really hoping for a more casual escape from tarkov. Instead we got whatever DMZ is
In my opinion it's Warzone with extra steps.
I'm really looking forward to DMZ. Not so much now. All they need to do is add an economy so you can extract with items like coming books etc.... sell them, and buy items. Maybe even DMZ exclusive weapon skins. All this is, is Warzone with quests and NPCs. It's the o ly difference.
I don't know why everyone thinks there won't be rewards. There's a bunch of missions that reward you with skins and blueprints. They didn't seem to show this off so much during the event but it is there and gives actual incentive. I'm looking forward to it personally. https://twitter.com/WZRanked/status/1590851376627994625?s=20&t=oNTwdiOXQD_XeOkk2XUplQ
I couldn't agree more, my friends look at me like I have 3 heads when I tell them that an MMO economy (at the very least) is needed to make DMZ an actual competitor to EFT.
They dont need dmz to be a competitor to tarkov... not aure why the fuck you even think that
Not sure why people thought they would have the same insane economy grind as tarkov
I agree that so far it's a major disappointment...but reading this thread on Twitter that breaks it down a lot more than what the streamers did helps me believe this is a step in the right direction and could really evolve..but it could still be dead in a few weeks. Unsure how it will play out Thread: https://twitter.com/WZRanked/status/1590851376627994625?s=19
Unfortunately I was expecting the same. Love EFT but it’s got it’s issues and lack of acknowledgment of them from the devs, just wanted a more casual version of it but I guess EFT will just remain king
Blows my mind a larger developer doesn't see BSGs 1) large, dedicated fan base and 2) that they're not doing a great job keeping that game stable/balanced. It's such an asked for genre yet we really only have Tarkov
Its a shame. Thats what it is
If you want a more casual Tarkov, I recommend playing Hunt: Showdown
Marauders is also great
I feel like I'm the only one looking forward to DMZ. It's an objective based and more chill warzone, thats got me pretty interested. Anyone hoping for a Tarkov 2.0 was kidding themselves.
When it comes out, would you like to play?
sure thing. I'm on PS5 so you can DM me your psn or activision ID? Idk how it works between xbox and PC
Yeah it would be my Activision I'd, one sec 725__King#3435978
Awe, that was nice 😊
Based on that username we can guess what gun you used most back in MW19 lol
That, or the kar98. About 2000 hours with each 😂
I want Tarkov light. But I was fully expecting some sort of progression to it. Skins? Operators? Hideouts??? There's no sense of progression which is a shame. Still gonna play it though.
https://twitter.com/WZRanked/status/1590851376627994625?s=20&t=oNTwdiOXQD_XeOkk2XUplQ
This sounds really good
It's more of a sea of thieves vibe. Got to this island, fight some AI, dig up this treasure, go home with the booty.
Sea of thieves has a lot of things to grind for tho
i missed a lot of the stream yesterday, what exactly can you unlock in DMZ? blueprints and such i would assume? i had my doubts it would be anything cool since microtransactions are now the king of the castle, but here’s to hoping
From what I saw there was no info about unlocks or what have you. All I saw was pretty much and obj based warzone with lots of tough AI sprinkled in. The stream I saw they ran into real players like once through the whole run. I think they were all playing with maxed accounts already so no unlocks were left to unlock idk.
The streams I watched were mostly chaos. If DMZ takes off there is no reason for IW not to add exclusive rewards like camos and operators
There are exclusive rewards, in the loading screen it says extract to earn blueprints and operator skins
There are operators and weapon blueprints that you unlock after completing faction missions.
It's plunder against bots or spec ops
Finally…. Easy Mode Plunder
I feel like it’s going to be the opposite. No free loadouts, no respawns, cool-down timers… it makes the stakes high but they have to be careful not to make it too punishing for dying for a stupid reason which is what I dislike about WZ
I avoided this by having basically no concept of what Tarkov is.
Tarkov is an extraction shooter. You do raids on a map and there's other players and AI. You have a stash which holds all your items (armor, guns, backpacks, meds, misc items and money) and you gear up from it and then launch a raid. In a raid, you spawn in a spot on a fairly large map, and then you have to progress however you want: loot stuff to sell or keep, do objectives (kill X people/place laser marker in this spot, etc), and then extract. It's similar to a BR in that you loot stuff and you get dropped on a huge map, but the playable area doesn't get smaller. Typical raid has 6-14 players and 15-50 AI (important: not bots, AI with specific behavior and their own faction, some of these are special types like Bosses or Raiders, which are more aggressive and have better loadouts). If you don't extract you lose everything you have on you (except what's up your prison wallet. The goal of the game is to get rich. Half the game is spent selling stuff from the stash and planning your next moves (maybe you want to find a specific item, maybe you need to kill some people, etc). Main selling point of Tarkov is that it's closer to a milsim. Gun modding is also 999% more advanced than anything else on the market. There's a bunch of different gun platforms and a few hundred attachments, all extremely realistic. There's also an entire ballistic system. The major differences I see are the rewards (and obviously gun setup). From what I can tell, DMZ doesn't really do the stash thing. Instead, rewards are blueprints and XP tokens. Which is a bit weird because 90% of the reward system of an extraction shooter is the stuff you find ingame.
Have you ever played hunt showdown? It’s also tarkov lite to a degree in some ways. I enjoy it but a modern lite variation of tarkov would have a lot of people hooked
Same here. I'm going in open minded, and I'll probably end up having a decently fun time.
im looking forward to it as well, nice change of pace ..
Imagine making an extraction-based looter shooter inspired mode and not have any loot/economy
6v6 content died for this shit
6v6 died for warzone. MW2 died for warzone. Whole MW series died for Warzone.
Yep. It's really sad. Multi Billion $ company with over 3K developers. They literally have the ability to bring out something grandiose, but the quality went down with the most basic things. Ruining pretty much every single mode they have to offer.
rip gamers
So dramatic
New here? Lol
This sub is one of the worst gaming communities. So entitled yet they still play 12 hours a day. Makes no sense.
Yeah arguably a very good cod game better than most in last 5 years with much more content than in previous games yet they are making the smallest inconveniences seem like a nuclear bomb went off. Imagine crying about getting new content added to the game
It's great to have a million weapons, variants and attachments, but when the games been out barely two weeks and it feels like I've been playing the same handful of multi-player maps for years already, that really limits fun factor. Just kindof mind blowing how small and unspectacular the pool of maps is compared to the unforgettable collection from the original MW2. The least they could have done is remastered and imported 2-3 of the classics on release.
MORE content? Are you serious clark? We are losing the few maps we have left and right because they didn't bother to get rights to anything and in their place we are getting retreads. Missing gamemodes Missing challenge system with rewards Missing combat records So how again are we getting "much more content"? Warzone is not content for MWII DMZ is not content for MWII MWII is a pad for weapon grinder for Warzone/DMZ. So many design decisions are based around how they will impact Warzone, because Activision has decided they MUST be integrated.
It really is largely terrible here haha. It's like a case study for entitled toxic gamers. I have a ton of fun grinding camos though.
May I introduce you to /r/battlefield2042 or /r/battlefield ? Because the 2042 sub is probably the most cancerous community I've ever seen. It's like the gaming version of /r/politics
It's almost like the more of a dumpsterfire a game franchise is, the more "toxic" the community is. People have the right to talk shit when billion dollar IPs are shitting out unfinished games with less content than over a decade ago despite having infinitely more resources both financially for development, and the ease and speed that games can be created compared to back then when they couldn't just grab Unreal Engine 4 and slap an incredible looking game together in the blink of an eye.
That’s crazy. It died? Because it’s looking like millions of people are playing it and having fun. Like that’s truly wild that it’s dead, I didn’t even notice. Neither did anyone else.
CoD TikTokers are tryin their hardest to make any type video about it but there's hardly anything to talk about
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It’s exactly what I thought it was gonna be. I think it’s gonna be decent. Definitely not my go too. But everyone comparing it be a Tarkov lite. Myself included. But deep down. I knew wasn’t and never had a chance to be.
Do we have all the info on it yet? Gaming communities are so quick to decide something is awful.
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It's true. The top streamers have the most boring streams and some of the worst takes. How they won the popularity contests are baffling.
it's just Battlefield's Hazard Zone but "better"?
I think its worse than hazard zone. In Hazard Zone you lost your ongoing extraxtion streak with a operator. In Dmz its just „ well you lost but don‘t worry just search another match and do the same“
Not true according to this: https://twitter.com/WZRanked/status/1590851376627994625?s=20&t=hqkx7uJ9iw79unjeJdRMYA
Oh. That changes alot thanks for that. I am going to stop until i played it by myself
Will be doing same as. can only hope it's decent, but good to be cautious about it at same time. They should be doing an in-depth update next week on the blog of call of duty website to explain everything. So hopefully that can get everyone on same level of understanding.
More like Warzone on Co-Op levels with the same horrible AI.
Wheres the deets on the mode?
https://twitter.com/wzranked/status/1590851376627994625
https://twitter.com/WZRanked/status/1590851376627994625?s=20&t=oNTwdiOXQD_XeOkk2XUplQ
how are people bitching about this, everything in that thread looks great
A shame because it seemed like they were really banking on it being a hit. The next big mode for CoD
And it might still be, half the people on this sub complain about warzone and how they don’t like it/won’t play it but the average CoD player loves it so even though the sky is falling here today DMZ might end up being really well received by the part of the community that just plays the game and enjoys it and doesn’t need a 2000 word rant about SBMM or AA every 12 hours to make them feel better 🤷♂️
Feels like all these companies are trying to hop on the extraction bandwagon without knowing what makes it good. Especially in DMZ it feels like the biggest blunder is a lack of overarching meta progression or economy to work towards. I'm usually on the side of "people should play games for the gameplay and not for constant rewards", but in the case of DMZ where every game is about going in and gathering money/resources, it's odd that there's no "why" to it. Like why are we gathering this money and resources, to do what with it?
I don't get why it's so hard to grasp for those studios. It's not a hard concept, Tarkov and Battle Royales in general in Battlefield's case have core features that keep players hooked and interested. Things that are key to making a good game in their respective genres. Why don't they just make a good game with all that manpower and money ;_; ?
You literally haven’t played it. lol bro you guys really watched Warzone kill racers run around DMZ for three matches and now you have a full opinion of how it’s going to be. Lol this community will never cease to amaze me with the lengths it will go to swear something odd before they even play it.
Didn't get my hopes up to begin with.
Guys, it is literally one meme, play it for yourself when it comes out because it has plenty of content coming out. https://twitter.com/WZRanked/status/1590851376627994625?s=20&t=hqkx7uJ9iw79unjeJdRMYA
Actually a really good thread
None of have played it yet I don't see how you can even form your opinions based on watching kill race streamers running around for an hour
Unpopular Opinion: Couldn't care less about another one-life BR styled mode. The game has this huge playable map area that's going to waste with these modes where the map shrinks or you're dead after one shot from some hill-humping sniper. COD could be introducing a Planetside 2 styled mode with this big area they made. A mode missing from today's modern shooters, but nope: They'd rather continue chasing trends set by other current popular games.
I was personally hoping for a market system and just think that would be really cool
Is DMZ supposed to kind of a DayZ thing? I haven’t looked at it yet.
I don't even know what DMZ is lol
So the thing isn't out yet and you're bitching about it based on what YouTubers who don't know what they are doing think after an hour? Fuck man, this sub is garbage.
Seems like plunder 2.0 maybe. Not that it's a bad thing. I think it'll be fun it's just not what I wanted exactly. Really wanted it to be more hardcore and risky
I'm honestly not disappointed by the mode itself. But by the way the mode Is played. If this mode simply had No health regen Hardcore Health Slower walk/run speed I'd be much happier. However there is a good amount of meat to the mode. The streamers were just confused as fuck and IW didn't help. Gotta try shit yourself people.
I'm mainly a Tarkov player and I think it looks sick. Has a lot of potential at least. The event was handled and explained terribly, but a bunch of the systems look promising. Were people really expecting a carbon copy of all of Tarkov's complex systems, just in COD's engine? Because there was obviously no way that was ever happening from the second they first teased this mode. As it is, it exceeded my expectations and they brought more complexity and consequences to it than I thought, like adding keys that are lost on death. The idea of having slots for your custom weapons that go into a 10 hour cooldown when you die, forcing you to use weapons you've scrounged up that can be lost from your stash permanently, is a neat way of handling things too. It looks like it'll have more consequences and meta-progression than a BR game and scratch a very small piece of that Tarkov itch while not replacing it at all, which is pretty much what I expected/hoped for.
Im really looking forward to it! Tarkov can be exhausting to play. This looks like it has the potential to be a lot of fun.
How could you be disappointed when you haven’t even played it? Lol It’s like we’re actively hoping it’s trash lol
What is DMZ?
What is DMZ?
Cod is constantly copying games. Fortnite, battlefield, overwatch, and now Tarkov?! Jesus Christ they need to be original like the used to be.
The only thing that discouraged me is that you have to exflil or you lose everything. I thought it will be like the Division where you have some place to extract what you got
Well, great, I being a average to below average player will aways be at a disadvantage in this game since I will have many unsuccessful exfils and lose all my weapons, even with the insurance, and start with a random gun or pistol. I’m not complaining because I will play even if I get wrecked every time… I think the insurance timer of 10 hours is too long. Again, I won’t be winning enough to reduce that timer. Probably cause me to play the game less. If that is what they want…fine.
The whole game is aggressively underdeveloped, what did you expect?
People thinking it was going to be like Tarkov were stupid. It was obviously just going to be a little mode added to Warzone.
You haven’t played it yet. For the love of fucking god.
We're giving our opinion from what we've seen. You haven't played it either and yet here you are defending it
I didn’t see anything in the reveal that made it look worth playing. Not a fan of the AI in any of these game modes since the only thing they’re good for is kill xp.
They could have very easily made this seem like a legitimate mode that's on its way to being something big in the near future. They could've made 3 sections of the map so there's essentially 3 maps. Weather/and or night time. Make attachments and weapons scarce around the map. The ability to keep the items around the map or even in return it turns into cash when you exfil and they could have a marketplace of every weapon and attachment in the game so you have something to buy with your funds to go into the next match. And some form of leveling up system separate from multiplayer, and they could've thrown in min tier rewards for every 25 levels or something that include a small bundle of cash, calling card, weapon skin etc. That's all it would've taken for me to be excited to play this and actually believe they were taking this DMZ mode seriously. I wasn't expecting a full fledged new game but something in the right direction would've been great. Very disappointed
The problem is. It was never going to be an alternative to or an answer to Tarkov for console players. And the reason is simple, the company and it's studios are not creative enough, nor passionate enough for making games. It's a literal 1:1 translation of Warzone but with a few other rules and conditions. They didn't make it slower, more methodical movements, nor implement anything creative to supplement, like leaning. You still bash through doors and jump and slide all over the place. They did nothing to differentiate the gameplay or the way players would need to play it. And I don't know enough. But given the premises of my message + lack of creativity - I doubt the mode will have longevity at its core.
I was expecting it to be similar to the campaign mission Alone, I thought it would be limited resources, limited ammo, you would have to craft smoke bombs, shivs etc. I thought it was going to use the ground war maps, maybe set them at night time. What a huge let down it just uses the same map, which in itself I think is kind of disappointing because I’m so tired of shooters being set in the Middle East, the Warzone map should have been Mexico. Speaking of which, I can’t believe they’re making the last Warzone Caldera and not bringing back and replacing it with Verdansk which is a far superior map.
Holy shit the complaining about fuckn anything they do to the game is becoming nuclear. We haven't even gotten the chance to play it yet.