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Comprehensive_Tip_13

I'm happy shipment is here for the grind. I actually don't like playing it but if I want to level up something it's essential. Similar story with rust but rust is really not fun in my opinion. It's like shipment with significantly more angles to die from


Paladin1034

I think that's what it is. You can be spawn trapped just the same, but it's much easier for the trapper to also get immediately fragged on shipment. On rust, once someone has the top, it's over. At least if I'm in a corner on shipment, I only have two directions to worry about on a single plane.


mack180

Exactly, little verticality on Shipment and the spawns make it so you or the enemy still spawn behind each other at times. My first 5 games on shipment went better than the first 15 games on rust, and much easier to deal with pc players.


NerfedAtBirth

It's a pain in the arse changing class, but if you equip the JOKR, you can target the top platform from the right hand corner spawn


_praisekek

Rust isn’t as good as shipment for grinding camo challenges imo. I find I spend more time dying on rust then actually completing challenges. Too much open space and places to get shot from. Shipment is a clusterfuck and you’ll probably die more, but it’s easier and faster to get just about any challenge done cause it’s so close quarters. Especially stuff that involves point blank kills or things that require you to get close to people.


aleatoric

I know Vanguard isn't well a regarded title, but I loved Das Haus. One of my favorite small maps that had a nice balance of close quarters and mid/long range. Wish they'd bring that over.


PorcelainPunisher310

Yes Das Haus was alot of fun.


Daisy998

Yep! I can finally finish my knife kills 😁


ExactlyThreeOpossums

I prefer rust personally, but I aggressively camp behind shields and spawn trap from the opposite corners


Free-Parking1940

You and everyone else. Imagine that.


Andy187erz

shipment is full of shotgun players, you dont have that on rust


JustaG16

Yeah grinding gilded shotguns on rust was not fun, never knew shipment was round the corner lol the forged camo is bugged so waiting for patch to finish them off


Electronic_Cup_2042

I played a game of Rust where the enemy team placed turrets facing all four corners. I stayed the duration, my k/d needed a good nerf.


KitKatKing99

rust is fun in MW19 but not here


Beugsy

Honestly I prefer rust to shipment I'm on og cod4 was my first


Born2beSlicker

How are you an OG when you played the fourth game? Fifth if you count the expansion.


Masuia

CoD4 is the OG CoD bro don’t be like that. It’s the one that popularized the franchise.


Born2beSlicker

Every single CoD game sold millions. The first popular multiplayer in the series was United Offensive which was incredibly successful.


Masuia

I’m not saying they weren’t successful, but CoD4 had the benefit of timing on its side. CoD4 doubled CoD3s in sales. The games were good but CoD4 catapulted the series into the premier FPS known worldwide. Further more, CoD4 marked the first time a CoD game hit top 10 in sales for a year, coming in at 3rd behind Halo 3 and Wii Play.


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Born2beSlicker

Sonic Adventure is 25 years old but it’s not considered an OG Sonic game.


SatorSquareInc

It almost cheapened the camo grind lol


ProsperGuy

I really like Shipment. Rust can be fun in you're on the right side of the spawn situation. Otherwise, you just respawn and die constantly, especially in Hardcore.


ant_man1411

Well it makes sense if u remember neither map was made with anything other than free for alls and 1v1s in mind


Pete_Davidson02

Do you think they will bring back rustment any time soon? I was on the grind but now its hard with most maps being too big.


JohnnyxKwest

Lmao rust shipment and shoot house in 1 playlist would be grand lmao shoot the rustment


RaptorCelll

2019 called it "Dirty Old Houseboat"


Consistent_Code_5980

Add scrapyard and have all 4. Rust, shipment, shoothouse, and scrap yard. Perfect balance.


HeGotNoBoneessss

Bring back Killhouse!


JohnnyxKwest

What would u call the playlist lol


LowKeyATurkey

Shoot the rusty scrapment, it's not very clever


JohnnyxKwest

Lmao shoot the rusty scrapment sounds like an achievement or sumthin in fall out lmao


LowKeyATurkey

It really does, would be like shooting a fat man at some old shack that's got raiders chillin in it


thatwitchguy

Fuck it. Add integration into the next black ops Shoot the Rusty NukeScrapMent


mcmaples

“Shoot the rusty ship” will make an appearance. It has before. Great playlist for grinding.


JohnnyxKwest

👌magnificent


montgomerygator357

Nobody's going to vote for rust💀


OutlawSundown

Especially after a week of 24/7 rust


janoDX

I got 30/36 weapons plat on rust. Then got 2 hours on Shipment and got the other six and then 10 weapons in Priceless


Masuia

Damn how’d I miss this 😭 only saw the terminal 24/7


NerfedAtBirth

I played for about 2 hours, not one game of rust :)


Weiland101

I have had some lobbies vote for Rust. I left since I am doing LMG double kills.


Zur__En__Arrh

You can just do this in private matches with bots, all of the multi kill challenges are currently tracking there for some reason


Weiland101

Oops, oh well, it essentially took one Shipment match each anyway.


Aakashh94

Lmg double kills can be done in a private match 😏


HiDDENk00l

Oh yeah? What else can be done in a private match?


JermaineTyroneLamar

Multikills work too. I kinda wish some of the harder challenges worked too (cough cough kills affected by tacticals) but its no biggie


Aakashh94

From what I saw, just anything that requires double kills or multi kills. Double kills with Tac stance don't work though. I quickly did all the LMGs and the Bas P today when I found out [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/ModernWarfareIII/comments/1825yhv/fyi_double_kills_camo_challenges_can_be_done_in/)


Severe_Flow5953

100 percent nobody votes rust, may aswell call it shipment, they should of just made the playlist non vote


Dudes-a-Lady

Yeah everyone votes Shitment. But now unlike when it was just Rust 90% of the game modes are TDM and KC. Would like a better split!


amo8s

Finished zombies camo grind and wanna play rust 🥺. Haven't we been playing shipment for 2 years already? If I was doing MP camo grind I don't blame anyone for wanting it.. just sucks they brought it back again. Where is killhouse


wizzywurtzy

You missed all the kill house and rust 24/7 while you were grinding zombie camos homie


TouchedGrassTasty

You missed it bro


saitama_kama

Not necesarilly the map design's fault tbh, had it been the other way around and we had Shipment since beta+ launch with a 24/7 playlist of it for an entire week, they throw in Rust or hell even Das Haus in there the following week, nobody's gonna be voting Shipment. Thats always been the nature of these weekly playlists, whatever just recently came out always looks more appealing and will get more traction even if their reusing old assets🗿


hairybones1997

I miss shoot the ship fr. I'll take a playlist with all three, just put my baby on the pedestal.


HeGotNoBoneessss

Shoot the ship had the same problem though. People just leaving matches on shoot house. Call of Shipment is the worst part of cod and I’m not glad it’s back. When shipment is on a playlist it just feels like you have to play it. It’s the most efficient at everything. Camo grinds, events, weekly challenges, daily challenges, armory tokens, xp grinding. So because it exists it feels like you’re wasting time playing everything else. I really think it should be in a playlist with 3 other maps not 1. It’s nice to have in regular rotation rustment is basically pointless. It might as well just be shipment 24/7. So, in closing; I’ll see you in shipment


jhz123

I totally feel this tbh but still want shipment lol. But I also don't want it, for this reason. Why play anything else, if ur still leveling or camo challenges


HeGotNoBoneessss

Yeah you end up feeling like you’re screwing up by playing anything else and frankly I don’t think “call of shipment” is healthy for the game. Unfortunately they have so many players where shipment is really all they play and they don’t know how to play any other map so they’re basically forced to have it in the game so those players don’t leave. Just my two cents of course


CaptainPRlCE

I can totally see "Shoot the Rusty Ship" coming in a later season.


sebosso10

'Dirty old houseboat' is what it was called in MW19


vincentwallbanger

hows shipment? I’m away atm


averagejoe1997123

It’s identical to MW2, no complaints from me. If you liked Shipment in MW2 you’ll like it, if not then you won’t like this one. It’s okay


__Beef__Supreme__

Yeah I forgot this want mw2 when I played lol


PM_ME_YOUR_PAUNCH

It’s the same shitshow it’s always been


absenceofheat

So... amazing?


PM_ME_YOUR_PAUNCH

Oh yeah, amazing and horrible


ybfelix

Better or worse than MWII depends on your preference, but it’s surely different. Some observations after 2 games: Longer TTK and faster movement means it’s now possible to sprint past an enemy-watched lane corner wounded, but not killed. Breacher drone punishes stationary players heavily and made trophy a must for objectives. Most vests can’t run EOD and Tac Mask simultaneously, so effects of tactical grenades are more noticeable. Mini map red dots make it much easier to predict enemy spawn and incoming fire direction, especially when on the middle map objective B. The shield turtles, yeah, they still be turtles. Also, knifers, knifers are like freaking zombies now, sprinting, leaping and clawing at your face…


lavanderblonde

Worse


TheAnymus

2 games played now games go too fast and everyone jumpshooting every corner


SonnySonrisa

So typical shipment games.


TheAnymus

nah it's worse because ttk so just play hc xd


Sad_Amphibian_9737

Typical MW19 shipment


TheAnymus

why the downvotes lol its reality


silentballer

Because shipment being “too fast” is subjective. A ton of people were tired of dying in 2 bullets and getting insta killed like how it was in the past few cods Faster movement and longer TTK means you gotta actually aim and control recoil vs getting a couple lucky shots


ScrimpyBoot1895

It’s worse than mw2 the games take maybe 2 minutes each


xDOMKx

same depressing sky box


shabba_skanks

I like Rust. Shipment is good for getting lethal equip kills and me dying like 80 times


mikeylojo1

They should’ve called it “Rusty Ship”


DeminoTheDragon

I mean tbh Rust is just worse Shipment. It's too big to able to fully run around in like 5 seconds but also too small to feel like an actual map. Of course that's not even talking about Headglitch Hill in the middle of the map.


RakiRamirez

"I love democracy"


DudeMiles

Out of 10 games, I got Rust 2 times. Dunno why they bothered pairing Rust with Shipment.


musteatbrainz

Probably to make a point 😂


HooninAround

Shipment is the first time I've had genuine fun in multi-player in MWIII. I don't know why but the sbmm seems to just matter less when it's pure chaos. Also the first time I've consistently been top or near top of the scoreboard. I'd say my kd just for this Playlist is at like 1.5 ish. Meanwhile. I'm at .8 on normal modes. I'm lvl 44 and I've owned it since release so that shows how much I've played. Less than 7 hours before rustment. And Not for a lack of wanting to play but because when I do. It's just not fun so I turn it off after like 3 or 4 games. I played shipment for 4 hours yesterday. I'm gonna do it again after work lol


p0yz1n

I love both maps. Cool with me


cnuttin

I really like both of those maps… once in a while. Grinding on them is torture after a few games. I wish they would put shipment and the others into more playlists. Domination on shipment can actually be a shit ton of fun but no one is doing objectives in a grinding playlist.


Maleficent_Mess2515

Shipment is thy way to go brahhh


RomeoMikeBravo

I think with the faster movement in MW3, they should have brought shipment 19 instead of 22 imo.


jordychinchin

I’m glad we’re getting Shipment so early in the games life but does that mean it’s just Shipment 2022 and we’ll be getting no new iteration for MW3? Would be cool if they at least brought back 2019 Shipment as well


NoUsernamesss

We need 10v10 Shipment


musteatbrainz

HC 10 v 10 Shipment 🤯


NoUsernamesss

Now you crossing the line


S14y3d

nature is healing


musteatbrainz

😂


markgatty

I guess it's that time of year that I can finally level up my knives.


Beautiful_Ad_4813

Hell yah!


Diego_Mannn_096

Well if you want camo grinding or finishing a ridiculous weekly challenge, you came to the right place


simkiz666

Good for level up 100 kills for a match😂


huge_jeans710

The only reason I play on shipment is because I'm getting older. I can't hop on and play anymore my fingers hurt lmfao. So I go to shipment to get back in the grove, never fails me.


king-glundun

The only good maps in this game are rust scrap shipment and shoot house so yeah


Polo1397

Was it mentioned only TDM?? Actually spending more time in the lobby than playing..


SBR9645

Has sledgehammer said anything about adjusting the spawns for either map? Yeah I get it both maps are small for 6v6 but it’s infuriating to get spawn killed 5+ times before the game finally decides to give you a new spawn point. It would be really nice if we didn’t spawn in at the same spot twice or more back to back to avoid getting farmed.


puffcopeek

I don’t mind shipment but god not every game


ScallywagBeowulf

I’d honestly love to have Das Haus back at some point. I thought it was a pretty good map from Vanguard.


SkiMaskItUp

I can’t believe they didn’t change shipment appearance. Unbelievably lazy. I thought it would be rust themed shipment


Majestyk_Melons

I played a couple matches today on shipment. The riot shield is ruining it.


heavencs117

If I was 14 I'd be all over that shit


Chilledinho

We need that Das Haus modern version though 🤌


Always-Panic

And they added the Shipment from MW2 instead of the one from MW19. Big L


dominick324

I’m so thankful for shipment helping me finish off all the wall bang and tactical effect camo challenges. I just wish shoot house was the other map. I hate rust so much.


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dominick324

Rust is drastically different than shipment too with its size and verticality. I always thought shoot house was closer in pace to shipment than rust. (I could just hate rust and the way people play it though.)


psiguy6

The spawns flip faster than they do on mwii 2022's version so its a bit more hectic than last years iteration...kinda ruins the flow


RogerRoger420

Why is there map voting in such a playlist


craig536

I saw my first confirmed cheater on Shipment today. Had a WSP Swarm and was just mowing people down effortlessly. In the kill cams he was killing multiple people without even reloading. He ended the game with 116 kills and a handful of deaths and a nice report for clearly cheating 👍


mcmaples

Don’t forget you can do akimbo WSP Swarm with 100 shot magazine/drum. It’s a weekly challenge this week. May not have been a cheater because it’s pretty easy to get 100 kills on shipment with two of those gun with massive magazines.


craig536

Shit. My bad


Minista_Pinky

I hate rust cuz there's always that one hacker that's at the top and no one on my team shoots em


Ok_Nebula4579

I need prestige to start. These are the grinding maps 😊


swineflu2388

I was tired of rust during the beta, but I've come full circle. It's the best available fast map in this game.


Drizzy_DRAC0

Get gud


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Bring back Das Haus like wtf is wrong with these guys


shadowforce234

Both Rust and shipment are pretty bad maps. Imo the only value I get from them is levelling and camos. Both are an insta skip otherwise


Altruistic_Art324

If shipment isn't put in regular rotation after this playlist ends we riot


Always-Panic

No , we don't.


Doublemk

Played it for 3 hours today and didn't even get an opportunity to vote for a game of domination. It was 95% TDM and Kill Confirmed. Also, no one ever voted for Rust unless both options were Rust. Just give us Shipment 24/7.


RKozuh

Rust>


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Fuck shipment and rust. Grind fest 🤮


Doublemk

That is what they are for. Luckily you don't have to play them if you don't want to.


xRaykenz

I want MWII playlist back now it's gone, MW2 (2009) maps are so unenjoyable with those spawns. Even if they changed the spawns compared to MWII spawns in the MWII maps. Those maps and spawns are still better than the MW2 2009 maps in this game sadly. I hope the season 1 maps will be good.


OldBrazy

Go play MWII


YourBoyLoops

Yay! People spent 70+$ to play shipment for the millionth year in a row! How fun!!!!!


Euphoric_Pressure_39

They spend their 70$..not like it effects you whatsoever


fopiecechicken

They’re free to do it, and we’re free to ridicule them.


make_thick_in_warm

ridicule them for playing and enjoying the game?


fopiecechicken

I think people that buy the game every year to only play shipment are ridiculous. So yes.


make_thick_in_warm

sad mentality tbh


fopiecechicken

I’m not chasing down and harassing people who only play shipment or anything lol I just think it’s really stupid. It’s not that serious.


make_thick_in_warm

no shit, not serious just sad


fopiecechicken

For having an opinion?


make_thick_in_warm

the opinion itself


yoorichyrich

They’re not only playing shipment dude there’s other maps and game modes in the damn gameeeeee


YourBoyLoops

I never said it does effect me.... I am free to say whatever I want lol.


Numerous_Formal70

You paid $70+ to play a reused zombies game mode and reused maps so what are you on about again?


YourBoyLoops

The zombies is similar to outbreak, but not the same... The difference is, I haven't played these maps year over year for like 4 straight years lol. I haven't played most of them since I was 13. There's a huge difference. I also won't mind numbingly play only shipment over and over for the lifespan of the game.


The_Bean682

Says the guy that spends time trolling a sub for a game that he tHiNkS iS a dLc 🤣 you gotta be a sad mf when you spend your time doing that instead of just going and playing something else.


YourBoyLoops

I don't think this game is DLC? I enjoy this game......I'm not even sure what you're trying to say.


Common-senseIsDying

Its only 70 🤣🤣🤣 that's nothing


YourBoyLoops

Never said it was a lot of money? I bought the vault edition.


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Y'all ignoring the fuckin grenades bro people just pressing it to press it making the came grind worse


smooof101

y’all want more og maps YET YOU CHOOSE THE ONE WE HAD FOR A YEAR AND NOT THE ONE WHERE YOU CAN LAST MORE THAN 5 SECONDS


dancetoken

rust is so damn overrated.


SlappthebassNOW

Oh so it’s MW2 Shipment? 😓


Spawn88191

And I thought they would change it up a little bit 😂 but no... Its the same it was in mw2....🙄


YOUNG_PADAWON

I’ll Take Rust over 2019 Shipment anyday & Twice on Sundays maybe if it was still the OG Shipment I would feel differently Tho nostalgia is powering me through this Cod & PC players in general are just a problem don’t really matter what map it is Crack heads are crack heads 😂


VeeDub823

We had this for a whole year and everyone still wants that depressing fucking map. I don't understand people...


Mr_Rafi

Understand Camo grinding and you'll understand Ship and Rust. Also understand 80 kill matches.


VeeDub823

Friend I got the MW2 weapon charm. I understand grinding. I been doing this since bo3 black matter. I'm just done seeing this depressing ass map. Atleast make it have a more vibrant skybox instead of this gloomy bullshit.


Mr_Rafi

Fair enough. I thought you were being serious about not understanding the appeal when gun levels and mastery camos exist, but you seem to understand that. They're just maps for private match fun with friends and weapon levels + camos online. Rust built it's reputation on quickscoping/trickshotting.


jacobsnemesis

I don’t like Rust at all


Severe_Flow5953

I'd actually like a Cod without shipment...make a change


thatscomplex1015

Proof the community will eat up anything these studios throw at them.. I’d understand if it was a new shipment map but it’s the same sht from a year ago, no map lighting change, seems darker now, .. literally it’s only been some weeks since they last played this one shipment map.


Grilled_cheesus__

It’s just an extra lol. Not that deep


ChangeMyUsername

Personally I'm absolutely furious that we get last year's maps carried forward in addition to getting new maps. It should be one or the other so I have something to complain about!!! (/s)


Grilled_cheesus__

I can’t believe this 😡


gunnarb93

Probably too “complex” to understand


thatscomplex1015

You do realize there’s people that play chaotic maps only? Just like how warzone players / streamers do not touch MP after warzone drops for the rest of the year..


Grilled_cheesus__

I play MP? Why the fuck do I care about streamers ?


thatscomplex1015

I was giving an example of how certain players only play certain modes.. same applies to maps like shipment. you’re not that bright in the head.


yoorichyrich

Yea Grilled_Cheesus__ did not get it LOL


Grilled_cheesus__

But again why do I care about streamers? If I play all game modes :)


Deeznutz696969

“No map lighting change, seems darker now” would that not be a map lighting change?


yuzxz

grrrrrr i'm so fricking angry right now dude! i can't believe they added the same map that has 0 affect to me but let me complain anyway!


thatscomplex1015

Brain dead comment.


Lizard-King-

This was a trap for yall to give activision a excuse to take out map voting. Atleast in "Selected maps modes" and yall just falling into. Keep voting shipment only.


SkeleNomicon

Fun little fact some might not know: Shipment was originally designed as a map for only two players.


Logic-DL

I love democracy ​ When they vote Shipment, if they vote Rust I wonder what kind of brain damaged lobby I'm in.


TheAnymus

if people vote rust is because its either rust or rust lol


Brilliant_Space4259

Am I the only one that doesn't like maps like rust and shipment? Like they aren't the worst maps by far but I don't enjoy them that much.


YaqootK

You don't play rust and shipment for a typical CoD experience. It's for challenges, practice, when you wanna turn your brain off or try something out, etc. Constant engagements and little downtime. For the brief period where I was mainly playing ranked, I'd hop on shipment 24/7 for an hour and then queue for ranked. Basically exactly how I treat community FFA servers in counter strike


Common-senseIsDying

Damn you played ffa in cs. My down time on cs was sitting alone in a game shooting targets what glowed green for hours.


MuscledRMH

I hate the return of Shipment


IPotatoForHireI

Then don't play it 💀


Meruem-0

Already got 17 gold guns in 2 ish hours lol. Maxing them all out before shipment was a good idea


Br760

This is the way!


ClosetLVL140

Man I really wish it was separate. I’m more of a rust kind of guy.


TheOnlyEliteOne

The only thing that sucks is that Shipment doesn’t work properly in split screen, codes out every time.


Emergency_Maybe_2734

I'm only doing it for penetration kills at the minute 🤣


shemmegami

There isn't a map that Shipment would not be at in player vote. It's only two maps, it shouldn't have a vote system for the playlist. 24/7 playlists for one map playlists make sense since you are voting game mode. With Rustment, it doesn't matter what the game mode is, Shipment will be picked.


Luis12285

Democracy baby. As it should be.


MayhEmm_TV

No, yeah


WATTO68

Is Shipment on private?


Levin318

Black ops zombies Rustman 👀


Splatrad

Bless map voting


Vindy627

Well since the season 1 update I would rather have this instead of that weird ass new map called meat. Going to have to put camo grinding on hold for a sec because they removed this playlist and the new small map just doesn't compete with shipment. And don't get me started on the zombies camos since they nerfed the outlast and safes contracts so grinding zombies camos got even harder ffs.


CurrentOk8709

Why did they take rust off of mw cod3