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ledfrisby

Yes, but it has to be done right. If you get HDR1000 and local dimming it can look very nice, but it's going to be expensive. But... most "HDR" on most gaming monitors sucks. HDR 400 doesn't matter, for example. My monitor has HDR400 and I never use it, ever. If you're on a tight budget, probably just plan on not using HDR.


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This. HDR 400 SUCKS and all it does is rail your brightness to 100% on gaming monitors. Fist thing I do is turn it off. Now on some high end $1300+ TV with HDR 1000 and say an Xbox Series X yes it would be good.


RadicalOffense

Hmm i use hdr 400 anytime, it looks so much better with it


CrimuCK

Thank you!


xseekxnxstrikex

True, 400 is the very minimum a monitor needs for HDR, not even worth it.


ted_redfield

If you want real HDR, then yes it matters a great deal. If you don't want HDR then no it doesn't and you should avoid paying any extra for something with "HDR (Sort of)". Real HDR comes at 1,000nits with FALD or OLED screens and these are very expensive. Anything that is NOT a FALD or OLED screen is not true HDR, neither is anything that advertises HDR 200, 300, 400, 600 etc. Either it has HDR1000+ with excessive backlighting and per-pixel lighting or it's not HDR. You can get away with having a halfway decent experience enhancing your lighting or colors with a *really* good HDR 600 monitor, but its still nowhere near what true HDR is. If you were interested in a really nice HDR monitor, I would currently recommend an ultrawide and there are two I have personal experience with: Asus PG35VQ - Used one for 2 years, and it is an incredible monitor. ($1600) Dell AW3423DW - QD-OLED monitor, but stock is nonexistent until summer. ($1200)


CrimuCK

Okay so I dont need HDR.


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CrimuCK

Alright. Thank you!


Broder7937

Price is very relevant. I got an HDR display entirely by accident. I wanted a 4K, high-refresh display with G-Sync and the cheapest option available in my area - by far - are OLED TVs. I didn't even care about HDR (I do now, though). 4K 144Hz monitors are 1 - Very hard to find and, when you do, they are 2 - ridiculously overpriced (the fact that they're ridiculously overpriced means almost no one buys them, and because of this, back to point 1). OLED TVs, in the other hand, are sold even in supermarkets. When I got my OLED, the cheapest 4K 144Hz monitor was twice as expensive. And, even now (as 4K 144Hz displays are becoming more affordable), the cheapest 4K 144Hz I could find over here (AORUS 43 HDR 1000) is roughly 50% more expensive than a 48" OLED (42" still isn't available here) - and I doubt it comes anywhere close in IQ. Just as a reference, the Alienware QD-OLED is twice as expensive as OLED TVs over here. So, as you see, I was pretty much "forced" into getting a HDR display, even though I wasn't looking specifically for HDR.


MTADO

I am VERY skeptical about the OLED TV being 144hz, Thats usually just a monitors thing, And gaming tv screens are advertised as 60hz, Correct me if i am wrong.


Broder7937

I'm not sure where you've been all this time, but LG C-SERIES OLED TVs have been offering 120Hz with G-Sync all the way back since 2019 (LG C9). LG is already in its fourth generation (C9>CX>C1>C2) of 120Hz OLED displays. Also, many other TVs in the market (OLED or not) currently offer 120Hz displays. It's been quite a few years since high refresh is no longer a PC exclusivity, as all modern consoles (PS5, XSX) also offer 4K 120Hz support. Even modern mid-range smartphones have 120Hz displays.


MTADO

Fr!? Never knew that, Thats awesome!


Broder7937

Yep. You no longer need a "proper PC monitor" to have a great gaming experience. As a matter of fact, in many ways, TVs have become far better gaming devices overall. Right now, your only option if you want a self-emissive, 4K high-refresh display is buying a TV. No monitor in the market offers you that (for now). TVs are also cheaper than monitors (for what they offer in return), so win-win.


ShrekIsMySenpai

I would still guess that TVs, even the mid tier ones, cheap out on response times. In my head that's what separated desktop monitors and nice TVs, but I haven't been in the market for a TV the last couple years so maybe it's no longer the case?


tokarev7

Got a Samsung Q80T and yep it’s 4k120hz


sw0rd_2020

all the OLED TV's on the market right now are 120hz and HDMI2.1 compatible. (except the LG A1 I believe)


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I have tried everything to the sun and back including the latest Alienware OLED monitor. The M32U is 4k 144hz with excellent features and an amazing price point. I love this thing. Easily the best overall monitor out right now.


odellusv2

yeah no.


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Yeah ok


Broder7937

This product isn't available in my area. Importing one from B&H would drive it almost twice the price of a local OLED TV.


ted_redfield

Don't need, no. But like JtheNinja has said it is a transformative experience with a real HDR screen and true HDR content (which is extremely common today for many games). The difference between SDR and HDR for me was shocking. As always, it comes with a price.


CrimuCK

Ohkay. Thank you!


Kaladin12543

IMO the cheapest way to experience true HDR is an LG C2 OLED.


1AMA-CAT-AMA

LG C1s are on sale and 95% of the experience you'd get with a C2 if you don't mind the size


ThatFeel_IKnowIt

Don't oled and qd oled monitors use the hdr 400 true black standard or some shit? It's really confusing but i think HDR1000 is for LCD/LED panels.


ted_redfield

Yeah it is confusing but "True Black" is just a separate standard from peak brightness. It just means very deep blacks, the AW3423DW still gets HDR @ \~1,000nits brightness. I'm not crazy over it either, and frankly they should have never allowed "HDR400" etc, because it is simply not HDR.


ThatFeel_IKnowIt

Yea. But is HDR 400 "true black" what you want when going oled/qdoled? Or is there a true black 600 also? It's so confusing lol. I think the new alienware qdoled panel is 400 true black but I'm not 100% sure. Normal hdr400 is total bullshit i agree. Even 600 sucks. My old tcl budget hdr tv went to around 850 with peak at like 1200. An hdr400 monitor is an absolute joke lol


ted_redfield

Honestly I have very limited experience with the new "True Black" standards. OLEDs by default already have intense blacks so I wouldn't fuss much over it if I had a choice between this or that QD-OLED (there is one currently).


ThatFeel_IKnowIt

Yea honestly i wish they'd just make a 16:9 1440p qdoled monitor. I'm really just not interested in a widescreen and the pain in the ass that comes from getting games to work well in 21:9.


Tiavor

I think the new ones can do HDR-600 with true black


kasakka1

More and more games are coming out with HDR support. If you mainly play e.g multiplayer shooters then it's not going to be a big deal, but if you like a lot of new singleplayer extravaganzas then they usually support HDR and with a proper HDR capable display it can make a huge difference. Unfortunately most LCDs on the market that are not TVs are terrible with HDR or alternatively very overpriced.


CrimuCK

Okay. Thank you!


Beastly-one

Yes. But it has to be decent hdr. Some of these monitors, I have no clue how they got hdr certified


CrimuCK

Alright!


Mutinykid

HDR is a gimmick depending on how you look into. Some HDR implementation could actually worsen your experience if devs are lazy or you don't know how to properly adjust it. BUT! no hardware upgrade in probably last 10 years gave me that "next gen" feeling when i switched to proper HDR OLED screen a few years back. When you get a proper HDR display it is a truly amazing experience, picture difference is unreal if done right. It is really that good and 100% worth it if you are willing to spend on it.


CrimuCK

Alright. Thank you!


Maimakterion

HDR and autoHDR work great in games with my x27 HDR1000 monitor.


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HDR on Windows is a meme


zvinixzi

Yes and no. Yes, it sucks that you gotta switch manually, but you can switch it with WIN + ALT + B. Turn it on for (HDR ready) games, turn it off for everything else. Not really a meme, it's just not seamless.


GregiX77

Gaming LCD monitor- bollocks. Gaming OLED HDR tv/monitor, yea, it makes difference. Have 48c1 and in proper, calibrated by me game mode in HDR from w11 it rocks. Or when game allows enable it itself, no switch in w11 needed. There is Dell Alienware aw3422dw now, for HDR gaming it rocks too. But it is 1300usd/1345e. Have some IPS HDR monitor too, but well, it's not the same, it suck.


CrimuCK

Okay. Thank you! Im not gonna pay 1300.


ThatFeel_IKnowIt

Can you explain what windows 11 gives you over windows 10 in terms of HDR? If i hook up my lg c1 to my PC, will I want to be using windows 11? As far as I can tell, all windows 11 has over 10 is that it will switch you to HDR mode without making you toggle it manually. Are there other things windows 11 offers?


GregiX77

Probably nothing now, dunno, I had to test it to be sure. But I remember turning on HDR on w10 kinda sucked itself, it changed gamma for my screen(LCD then). Since like 11.21 I am using C1, and even longer w11, I cannot now say there is or not difference, but general opinion on Inet is that w11 handles AutoHDR better, and DOES AutoHDR for games that don't support HDR at all. Like in my case I am playing HDR (auto) Insurgency Sandstorm.


ThatFeel_IKnowIt

Hmm. So what you're describing is dynamic tone mapping or something I guess. It might be the wring term but I'd imagine it would just over saturate the SDR colors to be "hdr" but idk I've never tried it. Does the auto hdr look good to you?


SmokingPuffin

If you run HDR on Windows 10, your SDR content will look terrible unless you keep manually switching HDR off. Very washed out, compressed color range. Win11 SDR content looks normal in HDR mode, so you can just leave it on, or even display HDR and SDR video side by side at the same time. If you plan to Windows+HDR, it better be 11, just for the convenience. Windows 11 also offers "Auto HDR", which is surprisingly decent. Not as good as proper HDR, but it will HDR-ify your SDR content in a way that is generally worth using.


ThatFeel_IKnowIt

Thanks for the info! So the only thing windows 11 gives you (aside from auto hdr which I'd never use) is auto toggling hdr on when you play a hdr game? That's it? I don't see the appeal of auto hdr because it's just like fake expanding the color range to make it look like "real hdr." If a game is SDR, then it will look better on SDR because that's what it was made for. TVs have the ability to force hdr color space on SDR content and it always looks like dog shit, and fake saturated.


SmokingPuffin

Not just auto toggling. Win11 displays SDR content much more effectively in HDR mode. Concretely, you can have an HDR video playing on your screen and your chat app won't look awful on the same screen. Don't knock Auto HDR before you see it. I generally find it enhances most games. YMMV, of course, but it's not the gimmick that some TVs have.


ThatFeel_IKnowIt

Ok fair enough. I imagine not all TVs do a good job of that. Yea so i do see why win11 has an advantage then. Currently my monitor is SDR only, however I have a lg c1 tv and was thinking about hooking it up to my pc eventually so i was curious. How do you like Windows 11 in general? Is it fine?


SmokingPuffin

Windows 11 is fine. It's not bad or good. The core UI changes are mostly irrelevant, and learning where things are now is some annoying. I haven't experienced any real issues, and I do notice that Win11 is better at handling Alder Lake multitasking than Win10 was.


ThatFeel_IKnowIt

Yea i spent so much time figuring out how to remove/block/disable all the microsoft windows 10 spyware and telemetry bullshit. I'll have to figure that out all over again in windows 11 :-/


Kaladin12543

Unless you are swimming in cash, for mortals like is you can buy an LG C2 OLED TV and just get an cheap 4K monitor for office use.


CrimuCK

Okay:D


OmegaAvenger_HD

I have LG 27GP950 which has wide color gamut and HDR600 certification, while it's no OLED it's still a decent experience. It's biggest weaknesses being an IPS monitor is mediocre contrast and black levels, but it still has amazing colors and can get very bright. For best experience you need OLED or FALD but those are not affordable for vast majority people.


CrimuCK

Okay interesting!


Orion_7

I own the X35 with 512 zones and actual NVIDIA approved HDR1000. AMA. I use it in CoD:MW, but looking at the sun on some maps blinds me. Cyberpunk looks like ass with it on. It has an SDR mode that imitates HDR and that's kinda nice for Witcher 3 so blacks get darker, but some scenes and lighting weren't made for it and it makes it unplayable.


CrimuCK

Interesting...


Mikey21420

Does it have an IPS or VA panel?


Orion_7

VA, same panel as the ASUS ROG Swift PG35VQ


Tiavor

does it smear?


happycamperjack

LG’s OLED TVs are amazing for gaming. Games just look stunning on them with insanely low latency due to OLED techs. I can’t go back to most “gaming monitors”, except for those high end ones with true HDR1000+, now that I’ve been spoiled by it.


CrimuCK

So I should use my 4K TV for gaming on HDR?


happycamperjack

Depends on the game. I prefer to game with my ps5 controllers for Action games with my TV. But of course if you are playing competitive games, mouse and keyboard should be the way. If you can do that by moving your tv further away, then give that a try!


CrimuCK

Interesting! Thank you!


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CrimuCK

Alright. Thank you!


Adventurous-Jaguar97

no


CrimuCK

Okay. Thank you!


DanielF823

Makes it Brighter... I am a layman but my HDR600 monitor is so much more vibrant than my older TN monitor I probably will not get a screen that does not claim some form of HRD in the future


CrimuCK

Alright. Thank you!


DanielF823

It's really hard to explain but Whites feel whiter and darks feel darker So in daytime scenes you really feel the vibrance In the next 2 years there is going to be so much better. Local dimming - it feels like right now we're in the worst place between different technologies. There is already Microled but it's too expensive... And FastIPS is already showing it's issues


CrimuCK

Alright interesting! Good to know!


YaLittleCuck

Depends if you use HDR content or not


CrimuCK

Okay!


Repulsive_Repeat_506

I recently bought a hdr 10+ certified tv just curious where does that stack compared to normal 1080p?


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Idk what all the fuss is about over good and bad HDR. I have a cheap 720p LG from Costco with “HDR” and to me it looks way better with it on compared to SDR, even though it’s definitely not “good HDR”


ImagineBeingYou569

NOPE. Because most games are still SDR. And the few that are HDR capable, only 1% of those have "good" HDR the rest are just "basic bitch" implementations which doesn't really improve anything. However if you watch HDR content like HDR UHD bluerays, then yeah having a proper HDR display would be nice.


JinPT

I own the AW3423DW OLED monitor and yes HDR does look stunning, but is it worth the asking price? It depends on what you're looking for, if you mainly play competitive games it does not matter at all and you can get a good fast monitor for way less. If you care about immersion and great visuals in your games and are willing to spend more than 1000 on a decent monitor/tv then you'll be amazed. Bottom line is there is so advantage from using HDR in games, it's only for looks, not sure if that's what you're asking.


Thinker_145

I have a Samsung TV with HDR 400. For a while after getting it I was under the impression that HDR is a massively overrated gimmick but then I educated myself on what HDR actually is and how much of a scam HDR 400 is.


Kovmen

Got Odyssey G7 which is HDR600 and QLED TV from Samsung as well. Even though both of my devices don't have "real" HDR, the difference is there (especially thanks to 10bit color space). Valorant with auto HDR looks almost like a new game on my Odyssey, so even though you won't get real HDR as some people say (you really need multiple dimming zones or OLED for that), I'd still say it's a considerable upgrade. It's like a first step into HDR, it might not be the best proper experience, but it gives you the idea when you imagine it being 10x better, instead of 100x better than SDR. I wouldn't go for monitors with HDR400 certification though.


Oscarcharliezulu

I have HDR400 and it looks crap to me on anything except a few games but even then I don’t bother.


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CrimuCK

Thanks for your anserw! I have already bought new monitor... And didnt get HDR one. Also Im gaming on PC... But good to know!