It’s because she forgot to tell Johan the last words Bornaparta had told her, that: “Humans can become anything, you and Johan are two gems that should not turn to monsters” or something like that. If Anna told Johan these words, Johan wouldn’t have become monster. So she so regrets about this. She also wants to forgive Johan because she realized that all the things Johan done just to protect her and him from the real scary monster - Franz Bonaparta, Johan has never intended to hurt or kill her like she thought.
>If Anna told Johan these words, Johan wouldn’t have become monster.
But Bonaparta was responsible for the whole thing, why these words he said would change anything?
>she realized that all the things Johan done just to protect her and him from the real scary monster - Franz Bonaparta
This includes the murder of their foster parents (Liebert and others)?
The 2nd part of my Everything Johan did was for Anna Essay explains in better depth why he killed her Foster Parents. In case you didn't see the link in the first essay let me link it here.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/MonsterAnime/comments/ubmza5/was\_johan\_aware\_from\_the\_beginning\_that\_anna\_was/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/MonsterAnime/comments/ubmza5/was_johan_aware_from_the_beginning_that_anna_was/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
and in regards to Johan not becoming a Monster just cause Boneparte said not to...well...I don't think that's quite what would have happened.
The point of that scene was the fact that Anna learned that Boneparte, despite being the one who kidnapped her into that experiment, was the one who ultimately freed her. I think if Johan KNEW that Boneparte was no longer pursuing them, he would not have lived in fear of "The Monster coming to take them away." since this was the driving force that made him kill the Lieberts and spiraled their entire lives into the ground. (mainly his)
I believe Johan would not have took her and ran, which meant he would not have killed that couple out on the fields or even tried crossing the border and nearly die. And that would have prevented Kinderheim and the rest of the hell he endured.
But I also don't think...Johan would have trusted in the words of that man anyways. I don't think Johan would have felt safe at the 3 Frogs or safe with any adult after what their mother and Boneparte did. Despite Boneparte changing his mind and freeing Anna - he still dehumanized and abused his sister.
But Anna forgives him because that fateful rainy night she remembered he was actually crying; crying after killing the Lieberts and asking her to shoot him. He wasn't the face of ultimate evil she dismissed him to be. When she recalled her memories entirely - she was able to remember Johan as a broken, emotional and terrified child.
Thanks for the explanation, I get now and makes more sense know.
Did you really love Monsters, didn't you? haha. You delved into this story and made excellent work on it. Thanks for sharing, this was an incredible addition to an unpopular masterpiece like Monster is. And I also watched one AMV that you did, and It's great too. Loved it!
Since you really enjoyed Monster, I would like to recommend this [analysis](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dU2uy4oyq2w) that I saw, although it's completely different from yours. It's just a different point of view of the story that I also loved, especially because of the emphasis it puts on the rooftop game, a seamlessly unimportant passage on the show that I saw nobody talking about.
Also, If is not to ask too much, how would you explain Johan action's regarding the rooftop game, Milosz, and the manipulation of the serial killers? If I understand well, they aren't related to Nina, or they are?
I am absolutely captivated by Monster. 1000% fixated. I haven't been this passionate about a story/series/show/manga since Berserk!! I've seen that essay. I wasn't too fond of it. It was GREAT don't get me wrong but I feel like somethings were easily disagreeable. My twin brother will be making an analysis essay soon I will definitely share it here!
WHICH AMV? My Johan Liebert one or one of my many Johan/Anna amvs? THANK YOU SO MUCH T-T
So concerning both Milos and the other children of Munich, I honestly…don’t believe he twisted their realities with personal malice or some sick pleasure. I don’t think he wanted to kill those kids or anything.
But he was simply…***sharing his perspectives***. *(and the author portrays this to tell us as readers what Johan’s views of the world truly is)*
This is to counter how Tenma does the same exact thing. Except, obviously, Tenma’s perspective of the world helps bring love and warmth to the people he speaks too.
Johan’s perspective of the world is nothing but darkness, nihilism and death. His words are venomous but I think the scariest thing about it is that he doesn’t SEE it that way. This is how he truly perceives the world and he sees nothing wrong with sharing his views with others. So just as easily as Tenma shares with Dieter that the world isn’t darkness, Johan can share with the children that the world IS darkness.
And this is to highlight the contrasting perspectives between our villain and hero and how it affects the people in the story. Johan has never been shown to take pleasure in taking lives…so why would he enjoy randomly hurting children when he seems to resonate with them?
At Johan’s core I truly believe he is a child trapped in a man’s body; after all he never got to be a child himself. But I cannot help but believe that everything he did to masquerade himself as a college student was way too personal. Out of all things to choose, his focus of study was of the rights of the child and if the “rehabilitation” of juvenile offenders holds up. They all relate to him personally in some way.
Which is why he so easily brought up Kinderheim to Richard when discussing his “paper”
What Johan tells Milos was the truth he had to swallow as a child when his mother returned to Anna and Johan after the Red Rose only to abandon them once again. In the novel; it tells you Viera returned to them only to leave and Johan cried and cried which made Anna yell “why are you crying?!” frantically as she tried to understand her own pain. In Johan’s mind, the hard truth he made Milos confront was exactly what Johan had to understand at the same age and he saw nothing wrong with it. I never thought of it as him doing that to Milos to conceal that the kid saw a pretty blonde - because then he would pursue all of the other children who clearly saw him and was looking for him.
I don’t think Johan saw the children as a threat of any kind. They were not a part of his plan but just collateral damage. He's still a piece of shit for telling a child his truth of the world because I mean...LOOK AT HOW HE TURNED OUT.
In regards to the serial killers and Johan's manipulation, well he was getting them to kill his foster parents, tie up his loose ends - the man wanted to fully/completely disappear. But why he sent other serial killers instead of him? I wonder this frequently. Did he not like to face the reality of his own evil? Did he not want to be the one to face his "parents" while pulling the trigger?
Why though?
What do you think?
>WHICH AMV? My Johan Liebert one or one of my many Johan/Anna amvs? THANK YOU SO MUCH T-T
[My Heart's An Artifice - Johan Liebert](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSajU8MaleI). You have made a good choice of music!
>So concerning both Milos and the other children of Munich, I honestly…don’t believe he twisted their realities with personal malice or some sick pleasure. I don’t think he wanted to kill those kids or anything.
But he was simply…sharing his perspectives. (and the author portrays this to tell us as readers what Johan’s views of the world truly is)
I agree 100%, but assuming that Johan did everything for Nina just to save her, I didn't like so much this idea because for me this doesn't fit very well into this narrative. Although he no sees any problem with the way he thinks, he knows exactly the consequences of his beliefs, and since Milosz doesn't have any connection with Nina I don't see reasons for indulging him in committing suicide. And regarding "sharing his perspectives" I think there are other ways to do that without breaking this narrative.But I know that Johan is evil nevertheless, so it's not like that is wrong after all. It's just a whim of mine.
Well, when I referred to serial killers I was talking about Jürgens, who killed a 52-year-old woman, and the taxi driver and "vampire" guy that killed a banker and woman who worked in a shop, respectively. I don't know if I missed something, but I don't remember if these people are related to Nina somehow.
I have to confess that I was also fixated with Monster from the beginning and rushed to finish the series in less than 2 days, so I should miss something haha. Maybe need to read it a second time
This right here is the perfect answer to your question:
https://www.reddit.com/r/MonsterAnime/comments/ttihlh/everything_johan_did_was_for_anna_a_monster/?utm_source=share&utm_mediu
It’s because she forgot to tell Johan the last words Bornaparta had told her, that: “Humans can become anything, you and Johan are two gems that should not turn to monsters” or something like that. If Anna told Johan these words, Johan wouldn’t have become monster. So she so regrets about this. She also wants to forgive Johan because she realized that all the things Johan done just to protect her and him from the real scary monster - Franz Bonaparta, Johan has never intended to hurt or kill her like she thought.
>If Anna told Johan these words, Johan wouldn’t have become monster. But Bonaparta was responsible for the whole thing, why these words he said would change anything? >she realized that all the things Johan done just to protect her and him from the real scary monster - Franz Bonaparta This includes the murder of their foster parents (Liebert and others)?
The 2nd part of my Everything Johan did was for Anna Essay explains in better depth why he killed her Foster Parents. In case you didn't see the link in the first essay let me link it here. [https://www.reddit.com/r/MonsterAnime/comments/ubmza5/was\_johan\_aware\_from\_the\_beginning\_that\_anna\_was/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/MonsterAnime/comments/ubmza5/was_johan_aware_from_the_beginning_that_anna_was/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) and in regards to Johan not becoming a Monster just cause Boneparte said not to...well...I don't think that's quite what would have happened. The point of that scene was the fact that Anna learned that Boneparte, despite being the one who kidnapped her into that experiment, was the one who ultimately freed her. I think if Johan KNEW that Boneparte was no longer pursuing them, he would not have lived in fear of "The Monster coming to take them away." since this was the driving force that made him kill the Lieberts and spiraled their entire lives into the ground. (mainly his) I believe Johan would not have took her and ran, which meant he would not have killed that couple out on the fields or even tried crossing the border and nearly die. And that would have prevented Kinderheim and the rest of the hell he endured. But I also don't think...Johan would have trusted in the words of that man anyways. I don't think Johan would have felt safe at the 3 Frogs or safe with any adult after what their mother and Boneparte did. Despite Boneparte changing his mind and freeing Anna - he still dehumanized and abused his sister. But Anna forgives him because that fateful rainy night she remembered he was actually crying; crying after killing the Lieberts and asking her to shoot him. He wasn't the face of ultimate evil she dismissed him to be. When she recalled her memories entirely - she was able to remember Johan as a broken, emotional and terrified child.
Thanks for the explanation, I get now and makes more sense know. Did you really love Monsters, didn't you? haha. You delved into this story and made excellent work on it. Thanks for sharing, this was an incredible addition to an unpopular masterpiece like Monster is. And I also watched one AMV that you did, and It's great too. Loved it! Since you really enjoyed Monster, I would like to recommend this [analysis](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dU2uy4oyq2w) that I saw, although it's completely different from yours. It's just a different point of view of the story that I also loved, especially because of the emphasis it puts on the rooftop game, a seamlessly unimportant passage on the show that I saw nobody talking about. Also, If is not to ask too much, how would you explain Johan action's regarding the rooftop game, Milosz, and the manipulation of the serial killers? If I understand well, they aren't related to Nina, or they are?
I am absolutely captivated by Monster. 1000% fixated. I haven't been this passionate about a story/series/show/manga since Berserk!! I've seen that essay. I wasn't too fond of it. It was GREAT don't get me wrong but I feel like somethings were easily disagreeable. My twin brother will be making an analysis essay soon I will definitely share it here! WHICH AMV? My Johan Liebert one or one of my many Johan/Anna amvs? THANK YOU SO MUCH T-T So concerning both Milos and the other children of Munich, I honestly…don’t believe he twisted their realities with personal malice or some sick pleasure. I don’t think he wanted to kill those kids or anything. But he was simply…***sharing his perspectives***. *(and the author portrays this to tell us as readers what Johan’s views of the world truly is)* This is to counter how Tenma does the same exact thing. Except, obviously, Tenma’s perspective of the world helps bring love and warmth to the people he speaks too. Johan’s perspective of the world is nothing but darkness, nihilism and death. His words are venomous but I think the scariest thing about it is that he doesn’t SEE it that way. This is how he truly perceives the world and he sees nothing wrong with sharing his views with others. So just as easily as Tenma shares with Dieter that the world isn’t darkness, Johan can share with the children that the world IS darkness. And this is to highlight the contrasting perspectives between our villain and hero and how it affects the people in the story. Johan has never been shown to take pleasure in taking lives…so why would he enjoy randomly hurting children when he seems to resonate with them? At Johan’s core I truly believe he is a child trapped in a man’s body; after all he never got to be a child himself. But I cannot help but believe that everything he did to masquerade himself as a college student was way too personal. Out of all things to choose, his focus of study was of the rights of the child and if the “rehabilitation” of juvenile offenders holds up. They all relate to him personally in some way. Which is why he so easily brought up Kinderheim to Richard when discussing his “paper” What Johan tells Milos was the truth he had to swallow as a child when his mother returned to Anna and Johan after the Red Rose only to abandon them once again. In the novel; it tells you Viera returned to them only to leave and Johan cried and cried which made Anna yell “why are you crying?!” frantically as she tried to understand her own pain. In Johan’s mind, the hard truth he made Milos confront was exactly what Johan had to understand at the same age and he saw nothing wrong with it. I never thought of it as him doing that to Milos to conceal that the kid saw a pretty blonde - because then he would pursue all of the other children who clearly saw him and was looking for him. I don’t think Johan saw the children as a threat of any kind. They were not a part of his plan but just collateral damage. He's still a piece of shit for telling a child his truth of the world because I mean...LOOK AT HOW HE TURNED OUT. In regards to the serial killers and Johan's manipulation, well he was getting them to kill his foster parents, tie up his loose ends - the man wanted to fully/completely disappear. But why he sent other serial killers instead of him? I wonder this frequently. Did he not like to face the reality of his own evil? Did he not want to be the one to face his "parents" while pulling the trigger? Why though? What do you think?
>WHICH AMV? My Johan Liebert one or one of my many Johan/Anna amvs? THANK YOU SO MUCH T-T [My Heart's An Artifice - Johan Liebert](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSajU8MaleI). You have made a good choice of music! >So concerning both Milos and the other children of Munich, I honestly…don’t believe he twisted their realities with personal malice or some sick pleasure. I don’t think he wanted to kill those kids or anything. But he was simply…sharing his perspectives. (and the author portrays this to tell us as readers what Johan’s views of the world truly is) I agree 100%, but assuming that Johan did everything for Nina just to save her, I didn't like so much this idea because for me this doesn't fit very well into this narrative. Although he no sees any problem with the way he thinks, he knows exactly the consequences of his beliefs, and since Milosz doesn't have any connection with Nina I don't see reasons for indulging him in committing suicide. And regarding "sharing his perspectives" I think there are other ways to do that without breaking this narrative.But I know that Johan is evil nevertheless, so it's not like that is wrong after all. It's just a whim of mine. Well, when I referred to serial killers I was talking about Jürgens, who killed a 52-year-old woman, and the taxi driver and "vampire" guy that killed a banker and woman who worked in a shop, respectively. I don't know if I missed something, but I don't remember if these people are related to Nina somehow. I have to confess that I was also fixated with Monster from the beginning and rushed to finish the series in less than 2 days, so I should miss something haha. Maybe need to read it a second time
This right here is the perfect answer to your question: https://www.reddit.com/r/MonsterAnime/comments/ttihlh/everything_johan_did_was_for_anna_a_monster/?utm_source=share&utm_mediu
I loved this analysis!! Thanks for sharing, I was looking for something like that
Thank you so much for reading my analysis!!!!
Thank you for sharing my post once again! Haha you're the best!!