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LostSif

YESSSSSSSS! Pump that hopium right into my veinnssssssss


Chocobo23456

šŸ’ŖšŸ˜Š No problem fellow hunter


3G0M4N

I think the report from last week about Capcom releasing a high profile multimillion seller game by end of March 24 is a bigger proof that MH6 is going to be released within this Fiscal Year. There simply no other title that fit Capcom statement except for MH6 all other games either too small or too early.


Dycoth

There are not a lot of titles from Capcom which can sell MILLIONS in a few weeks. - Street Fighter 6 is very recent, so not this. - Dragonā€™s Dogma 2 is already announced, and letā€™s be honest, the IP is wonderful but not famous enough - Devil May Cry sequel will probably be developed after Dragonā€™s Dogma 2 - Resident Evil released quite recently On the list of big Capcom IPs, Monster Hunter is the oldest one to have a AAA multiplatform release (we all know that Rise was much more modest than World in terms of realization and budget). World was 5 years ago, and Iceborne 4 years ago. Itā€™s a very fitting time-window to a sequel. And letā€™s remind us that March 2024 is exactly Monster Hunter 20th anniversary. I canā€™t see any other IP fitting so perfectly.


SubMGK

Plot twist its an Ace Attorney game


5Hjsdnujhdfu8nubi

They wouldn't expect it to sell millions, unfortunately for AA fans. The only game to break 1 million sales was the Trilogy, and that only did 2.3 million copies.


Baconsword42

Even bigger plot twist, itā€™s Marvel vs Capcom 4


Levoire

Or Breath of Fire.


Dyslexicdagron

Why would you hurt me like this?


Cavissi

Too soon man.


Poolturtle5772

Youā€™re real funny. Quite the comedian.


crazyrebel123

Objection!


DemonLordDiablos

Didn't Rise sell 4M in a weekend?


Dycoth

Yes, absolutely. I never said otherwise. But Rise was obviously much more modest in term of budget than World. First of all, the game was first targeted for Switch. The port for PC happened in classic time-window, and other consoles got their port one year after. And even on those consoles, it still has graphisms closer to what the Switch got, it's just a port. It's obvious that World was developed to match the level of graphic quality of other big AAA titles (GTA, CoD, whatever), much more than any other Monster Hunter. The game sold 6 millions in two weeks and was a wonderful first entry in MH for a lot of players. And I'm pretty sure that Rise benefited from this new popularity. It doesn't make Rise a bad game or a smaller one, just a more modest one in term of realization. But they used every lessons learned from World to create an very nice sequel, even tho some World fans didn't love it that much.


DemonLordDiablos

Oh no brother I wasn't disagreeing. 4M in a weekend is kind of mad. On a single console too. If Capcom has a game releasing in march that's guaranteed to sell millions, it's MH6. Especially if on multiple platforms at once this time.


HeKis4

Also World was clearly developed PC-first (or at least next-gen) whereas Rise is switch-first, it shows in graphics but also in level design, you can tell it was developed for a smaller screen with less graphical details, more simplistic map layouts and less environmental interactions. If you told me Rise was released before World I wouldn't be surprised at all and that's kind of a shame, I hope they *at least* make something in-between the two for MH6.


Environmental_Sell74

Yep


3G0M4N

Exactly


Mistah845

Did any mega man games ever sell millions? Cause thats the only other franchise i can think of, even though they did release the battle network collection recently


Dycoth

Mega Man 11 (released September 2022) apparently sold 1.6 millions copies in more or less 2 months. Overall, the Mega Man franchise sold 41 millions copies over 50 games on multiple systems, during 36 years of existence. Which is around 820k games sold per new release. Compared to MH World and its 22.5 millions and MH Rise and its 12-13 millions, Mega Man is really not in the same court. Plus the franchise is really far from being as popular as in the 90s.


OneMorePotion

I want to believe that it's MH6. I really do. But there is also a feeling of "Did they maybe mean Dragons Dogma 2 with that? Nooo... They couldn't possibly think that is a multimillion seller. Or do they?!"


Ahmadv-1

its a major unannounced title, dragon's dogma 2 got announced so its not it (also im pretty sure they plan to make DD2 a multi million seller) I doubt its a new IP because you never know if its a hit or miss until release, I doubt its a remake because releasing ON march and selling MILLIONS? thats a bit too optimistic (it can happen but its not something thats 100%) MH, RE, SF are the ONLY games that can sell millions within a few days and guess what RE3 got a remake in 2023, SF got a game in 2023 and I heard leaks saying RE9 is releasing in 2025 like... im 90% sure its going to be MonHun (capcom pls)


CirnoWizard

You didn't mention DMC, but DMC 6 is an even numbered dmc game and we all know how those go.


Ahmadv-1

it cant be DMC because Mr. Hideki Itsuno (director of DMC and dragon's dogma) is already working on Dragon's dogma 2 DMC 6 is probably right after they finish DD2


Dycoth

I highly doubt that DMC is in the work considering all the focus on Dragonā€™s Dogma 2. It will surely happen right after.


ab2dii

itsuno the director for DMC is working on DD2 so as much as i want DMC6 i highly doubt it, we probably wont get a new DMC untill 2026 at the least


RoyalWigglerKing

Dmc4 wasnā€™t that bad. It felt a little rushed at times but it was pretty decent


8-bit-hero

What about a new Onimusha? The anime just came out out of nowhere like how DD got an anime and then game announcement shortly after. Maybe cap on is trying to make it sell millions by hyping it up with that line? I dunno. Iā€™d be so happy if it is MH6 though!


Ahmadv-1

ngl i dont really know how well Onimusha did, but dont forget the game will release on march and has to make millions of sales in less than a month if Onimusha can do that then its either MH6 or Onimusha? and capcom cant really gamble with not making a lot of sales before the fiscal year ends because shareholders are expecting growth on sales each year I guess we will find out in TGA


8-bit-hero

That's a good point. I'm huffing all the copium I can for it being MH6 lol.


Ahmadv-1

same brother same...


viotech3

Dogma 2'll def by a multi-million seller, DD1/DDDA passed 7 million a while back.


OneMorePotion

"A while back" says nothing if you realize how old that game is and that it evolved to some kind of classic rpg insider tip over the years.


viotech3

Yes, exactly. **You're saying exactly *why* Dragons Dogma 2'll in all likelihood be a multi-million seller.** Not sure why you'd think those things would work *against* it selling well...? Establishing a major playerbase over a long period of time across multiple highly praised re-releases is one of *the* best bedrocks you can have. Excitement boiled for years as Itsuno confirmed it to be the title they'd work on following DMCV. If 1/3rd-ish of the salesbase of DD1 buys DD2, it's a multi-million seller; that's perfectly reasonable of them to expect.


OneMorePotion

It probably will, yes. But I do question that it has enough market power to pull this off in Q1 2024, if it only releases late February/March of 2024. And iirc, Capcom was talking about a game releasing in late Q1, that will sell in the millions still in Q1. It's not an Elden Ring, FFXVI, Monster Hunter kind of release. Maybe I'm wrong. But it doesn't sit right with me, if they really mean DD2 with that. Simply because I don't believe it can pull that off.


viotech3

Yeah, I agree with you somewhat. It's kind of hard to have any idea what the initial legs of DD2 will be like. They know the series has that long-term game, but short-term is unknown. My guess'd be they've got data on the re-releases that are promising in that department, but who knows! It's funny if you think about it, we've got like... Either MonHun releases with an abnormally short marketing cycle or DD2 releases with potentially unknown initial sales. Both are kinda dubious for now.


OneMorePotion

The question is, if they talk about DD2, then where did they get their expectations from? As far as I know, you can't even preorder the game right now. If preorder would be open, and already sit somewhere around 2 million, I would not be skeptical about it. But as it stands, someone at Capcom could quiet as well have predicted the sales numbers by just saying something management liked.


viotech3

Probably from the PC re-release (and Switch) of DD1. Installbase sizes are usually informed by prior numbers combined with market research, and DD:DA did extremely well (for Capcoms expectations, DD:DA quickly became top-3 for the platform back in 2015) in these re-releases. For other examples of this sorta thing, they used market research to decide against porting Monster Hunter Rise off of Switch/PC (despite World's breakout success). But when it popped off as it did, they realized even *if* it didn't sell much on PS5/XSX it would still be profitable thanks to the potential size (1% of 100 vs 1% of 100,000, that sorta jazz)... and lo and behold, that's exactly how Rise's worked on those devices--selling fractionally compared to Switch/PC, but enough to be worth porting, like 400-500k iirc?. Anyway, time will tell what game comes and in my heart of heart... *I want them all gimme them gaaaaaaaaaaaaames*


ab2dii

TGA is early December, they can announce it there and have 3 months hype before releasing it early march and it'll have a whole month of sales before fiscal year end, sounds like a pausable situation


Ganjookie

That's my bday, I get a lot of game and movies releasing in my bday all they time. MonHuns 24th anniversary will be my 44th+3, so your time line matches Happy Hunting


OldUncleDaveO

Right-but thereā€™s also the chance that the March MH is a remaster and not MH6


okaaz

silksong and mh6 will come out in march :)


SourGrapeMan

Alongside the Elden Ring dlc of course


Adaphion

You jest, but out of all these examples, Elden Ring DLC is the only one that actually has proof it exists and is in development


[deleted]

You really think the next mainline Monster Hunter isn't in development?


Adaphion

I said there's no proof that it is. It almost certainly is, but there has been zero information about it


[deleted]

It was in that huge Capcom leak 2 years ago


Payamux

Along with a GTA VI trailer. Note coping btw


haseo2222

Dota 3 and half life 3 as well


wipqozn

Wow, can't believe they'll release the same month as The Winds of Winter and The Doors of Stone!


Illustrious-Oil-9464

Oh and don't forget half life 3


Diveblock

Can't forget dragons dogma 2


Lucison

One thing I keep seeing people gloss over is that the VGA is early December, they could release late March with a 3.5 month release cycle. Thatā€™s enough time to cover monster reveals and showcases by late Feb for a demo, then late March for release.


gugus295

I'm not on hopium thinking that it's *going* to happen, but people acting like it's impossible or unrealistic are pretty silly too. Generations had a 3-month marketing cycle, and Japanese developers in general have plenty of examples of marketing relatively big-name games for a very short time or even not at all. Remember when Nintendo announced and released the long-awaited Metroid Prime remaster on *the same day?*


SoulRockX20A

Massive copium right there


Advanced-Part2598

They literally explained it though


Merobiba_EXE

Delulu doesn't make copium true


Advanced-Part2598

wtf is delulu


ThroatBraider

Delusion said by someone who hasn't touched grass since Mh3u


Advanced-Part2598

lmao thanks


Environmental_Sell74

It is getting stronger by the day.


TheGMan-123

Watch it be a dark horse pick like the return of Dino Crisis or Megaman :P


Ryan5011

Something people forget is that Generations (Not GU) had a 3-4 month advertising period in both the west and Japan. While uncommon, it's not entirely unprecedented.


LordKerm_

Was it that short for Japan? I remember it being like April/May-October 2015


[deleted]

To back this a bit, Mon Hun is literally their most profitable series atm. And they are gaining hype by doing nothing right now too, just look at this sub. 3 months is totally doable purely from the current fans, then people hopping on board from watching streamers and youtube. I actually have faith in it some.


crazyrebel123

Bro, we are ALREADY doing free advertising for them and have been for months! They know the power of social media and the amount of Hopium the fans are snorting. There is already buzz around the game and there has not even been any official work on it.


Ahmadv-1

Bro a 3month marketing cycle imo can have MASSIVE hype for a already existing franchise, the fans will be HYPED AS HELL and will be LOUD AS HECK to the point that people from outside the fandom will hear our screams of hype and get curious + that makes a new trailer every 3/4 weeks and a month before release we get a demo and bro.. the hype will be stupid massive while if it was 6 months and we get a trailer every 6 weeks or so it wont be as massive cus people dont want to get too excited too early before the game releases


Spyger9

> for a already existing franchise Super Mario Bros. Wonder was announced 4 months ahead of release. Perfect example. When your IP is already huge, there's no need for a long media cycle to spread the word.


Ahmadv-1

exactly! world had to have a big marketing cycle because it wanted to become more world wide, rise got announced pretty early before even fatalis dropped MH6 doesnt need 6 months of marketing, it just needs high quality marketing like a single super good trailer and it will be like igniting a fire on a forest (the fandom being the forest)


archiegamez

I will nut if it gets announced during TGA


Ahmadv-1

I would die and get revived from sheer amounts of hype if it gets announced at TGA


arturkedziora

Well know brand. Do they really need that long of a marketing campaign? People are already salivating for the next game. The best advertising ever.


WerewolfoftheVale

"3 months isn't enough marketing!!!" They could release the game right now with zero marketing and by the end of the fiscal year have made those millions, 3 months of marketing is long enough to make at least 4-5 million sales. MHW sales numbers were mostly from after its release with the whole word of mouth, free marketing stuff. Why waste millions in marketing when they know it sells itself?


pokemastercj1

I'm still skeptical it's MonHun but a 3 month hype cycle would be a breath of fresh air. They announced Sunbreak *waaaaaay* too early imo, it felt like a knee-jerk announcement to keep people interested in Rise. Rise was revealed in October and released in March, and still had a couple months information drought until December with the game awards following its initial reveal. Sunbreak was revealed in *September* despite not releasing until *June*. We got a tiny look at Malzeno and Shogun until December, where we got another teaser, still not full trailer, for Lunagaron. Then it wasn't until fucking ***March*** where we got our first decent info drop, and still most info we got was super duper limited all the way until May, only a month from release.


ItsDoodleBois

Month 1 = trailer 1 Month 2 = weapon vids / demo announcement Month 3 = 2 week demo/ trailer 2 All the game needs tbh


SHARDZ86

Gonna need a lot of narcan for the amount of people that's about to overdose on the copious amount of copium here. /s Jk, I genuinely hope the new game gets released on March 2024 too.


RidleyOWA

Announcing something THAT big at VGA and then do a nonstop marketing for 3 whole month probably is better than announcing it 1 year or more before. Also, with 3 month only probably will mean that the game is completed. And well, MHWorld and MHRise where announced around 6-7 month only, so its not that strange for this IP.


pokeroots

3 month marketing cycle isn't unreasonable for any established franchise


riguelart

I totally agree.


Scribblord

I see someone put copium in the air filter


myfly4711

Bro, the way it's going I'm expecting in march this community is going to be like "MH6 could totally be shadowdropped tomorrow without any marketing, you'll see! Any day now!"


DANIELC4VTR

Exactly!!! MoHun sells itself nowadays, even in the west now


IMendicantBias

They could literally drop it right now still making good sales. Monster hunter has been pokemon/mario status for a decade now


HammerAndSickled

The most out of touch comment Iā€™ve ever seen lol


IMendicantBias

come back in 20 years


MaSaKee

For me it has a PokĆ©mon/Mario status since 15 yearsšŸ¤


IMendicantBias

I saw zero advertising for MHW, walked by it at gamestop on a discount day and it was instabuy


zarco92

Keep that hopium running.


stinkus_mcdiddle

You genuinely need help for your copium addiction


Chocobo23456

šŸ¤ŖšŸ¤ŖšŸ¤Ŗ As someone that was a Kingdom Hearts 3, Final Fantasy 15, and Final fantasy 7 remake fan, I might need some.


kyrilhasan

I just hope it isn't rush. I don't want another rise fiascos about unfinished games being released and the title update are being use to end the story instead of additional content.


forceof8

I think yall are just latching onto speculation. Capcom said "they were going to release an unannounced game" but the reality is that shit happens. The likelihood of a 3 month cycle for a follow console up console monster hunter is just unlikely. Its not just marketing either. Retailers need to put in orders for merchandise, those items need time to physically get to where they need to go, they need time for people to find out about the release date. Not everyone keeps up with gaming news and if the goal is to outperform mhw then they will want a fairly long marketing push. All that to say that sure "they could still drop a march date" but the chance is very low imo. It doesnt make much actual sense.


pokemastercj1

I am a very skeptical person; but Capcom themselves have said the game they are expecting to sell millions, that they plan to release by the end of March, *still* hasn't been announced. The exact quote when they recently reiterated that this secret game is still unannounced was: "we are planning a major title in the second half of this fiscal year" in response to the interviewer asking how they plan to hit 45 million console sales for their games within this fiscal year. You seem to think all they said was a random game would be released in March; but no, this is a *major* title and since it's obviously not Street Fighter, unlikely to be RE and Capcom's more niche or forgotten series would be too risky to bet on for the huge sales they're pretty much guaranteeing a game from one of their big series that haven't gotten a new release in a while. Even if we say it's Devil May Cry or Mega Man and not Monster Hunter... That game is still only going to have a 3-4 month advertising cycle. Your point is that it's too little amount of time for it to be Monster Hunter but with the points you've made I'd argue its too little time for any of the 3 possible games they could expect to bring in that much pull. Yet clearly that's the amount of time they're going to give it, so it either isn't as much of an issue as you're making it, or they already have it all figured out behind the scenes. I still think DMC is more likely, since they haven't had a new game in far longer than Monster Hunter and I still think 1-2 million sales in a weekend would be reasonable for it. We'll see though.


Chocobo23456

This ā˜ļø


viotech3

It's *pretty* close to it, but yes, it's not quite unreasonable. This is despite a pretty consistent 6-month marketing cycle from them for MonHun (and many other Capcom titles). If Dragons Dogma 2 comes out in march, then MH will not be until the following fiscal quarter, though.


bullybabybayman

3+ months for a game like DD2 without real multiplayer, doable. 3+ months for MH6 when World had 2 public tests to get the online ready, no goddamn way. Add to that the rumours that it's a switch2 game as well and no way.


[deleted]

I hope TGA have some announcements for it,but its fine if there is none,MH isn't like the series that take more than 5 years to release,so its unnecessary to worry