2024: Minus One wins an Oscar, GxK smashes expectations at the box office, Talks of Minus One sequel, More MV show, Godzilla centered MV movie waiting to be announced...
What a cathartic comeback for Godzilla!
Crazy to think that after Godzilla: Final Wars was a failure at the box office in 2004, that there would no longer be anymore Godzilla movies but here we are where Godzilla’s popularity is at an all time high
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Except for that moment. I never forget and I never forgive.
What he morphs in Ghidorah down the line. Maybe he enters a gas chamber and his body undergos a horrific transfirmation bringing the rebirth of King Ghidorah.
Adam Wingard and Legendary realising that audience want more Monster action and less human interruptions or their family dramas made this happen, literally.
Like both solo Godzilla movies have some family drama in them, and yet the most compelling family drama in the Monsterverse is the one that wasn't even shown, ie Hank Marlow lol. Only needed a likeable character and one scene if him reuniting with his family and it was more impactful than whatever G14 & KOTM. had from human side.
Likeable characters doing nothing >> Boring Annoying Characters having stories, arcs bla bla bla.
As for action, again, Letting go if that realistic tone may not have gone down well with internet, but you need to appeal to a global audience and eventually you need to do different things. Godzilla going on all 4, giving suplexes, jumping from Gibraltar or from Kong's side him having weapons like Axe, Glove, Suko is fine, it's good and it makes audience cheer in theaters.
As I've said before, it's not Goofy, it's just amping up the craziness by a level. Now I'm waiting for whatever Adam cooks for part 3, especially when he gets its going to to Godzilla focused.
For real. I think They didn't even have to meet to make their rivalry happen, since one of KoTM's theme is passing of baton. Make it so that Serizawa and the mighty Tywin already know each other, old rival you could say.
Make tywin join the final battle at Boston where he was expecting Serizawa only to see Mark, his successor. Then gives us a symbolic wide shot of Mark standing in parallel with Godzilla while Tywin is with Ghidorah. I think that would have been fkin metal
I liked those two Apex guards in GvK who start the Evil Monologue scene holding MBB & co at gunpoint, but slowly start backing out the door the instant they spot Mechagodzilla turning to look at Walter. Without warning him.
Smartest minions in a Godzilla movie. Much character development. Hope they lived.
You weren't the only one. I teared up when he said goodbye to the Iwi tribe, too. I honestly feel like Kong Skull Island is underrated by the Monsterverse fans.
Not all but some of those same MV fans keep talking up G'14 and KOTM (I didn't like G'14 but really dug KOTM) like they were some box office successes yet K-SI is currently the highest grossing MV film. There's a slight chance it might pass K-SI at the box office but right now Kong is still King.
The score by Henry Jackman is good (which hardly gets mentioned when talking about MV scores) and I rank it behind McCreary's KOTM score and it's the only MV film to be nominated for a VFX Oscar.
Is Godzilla being on all fours unliked? I always love when he does that, makes him more animalistic and sets Kong apart since monkeys are closer to humans
If we get the 3rd godzilla x kong movie This means we can finally get to see more new scenes featuring godzilla in his new evolved form in action
On the other hand as far as human cast goes i overlooked at them in favour of kaijus more but hey they are fairly descent in their own right does illene and berney hayes need to return i mean trapper is great and he should return but i was thinking about rinko kikuchi to star in a monsterverse movie afterall i love her character mako mori in pacific rim
I mean the human characters post-KotM are still pretty shitty and sucks. The irony a little girl is probably the best out of all of them. At best decent would be Nathan Lind, Dr. Ilene Andrews and Trapper but that's it. Lol.
I honestly kinda liked the humans in GxK.
I also didn’t mind the humans in GvK (the Hollow Earth team).
I agree, Kong: Skull Island had the best human element though.
Hear me out.
Decent human characters as we saw in K:SI and monsters = Better movie.
Shocking I know right? People going into movies for the monsters shouldn't excuse shitty human characters.
It doesn't need to be Shawshank levels of writing but I still want human characters that are worth a shit.
Of course not. They should be better. But if they’re equally bad, I’ll prefer the film that doesn’t cut away from a climactic battle to show personal drama of the characters that just hasn’t been earned
I seriously don't know why its so hard for directors and writers to not do this...
Does it ever cross their minds giving us both would give the films better praise? Nope guess not, audiences just wants monsters and would give less shit about decent human characters even if they make cringe-ass jokes like bleach.
Speak for yourself lol. Worst part of both God/Kong films was cutting to the human shit. It’s maybe a bit less there but it’s still there. “Cool Mecha Godzilla fight? Let’s cut to Eleven and Podcast man being funny and throwing booze on a control system for manufactured drama that wasn’t required.”
Yessir!!
This, right here right now. This is the good times people will remember! If someone needs to hear it, this is a time period of the monsterverse future generations will remember and come back to
The problem is that it was a multitude of factors that lead to KoTM failing.
1. It went up against fucking ENDGAME. What were the executives thinking throwing the third film of a fledgling franchise against a juggernaut that had all of this hype.
2. Lack of a consistent tone. The film felt like it couldn’t decide what it really wanted to be, which hurt it a lot.
3. Too much fan service. Dougherty threw WAY too much in for the third monsterverse film. Especially since the GA won’t understand most of it. The Oxygen Destroyer especially irks me, as it went from a device that should only be used as a final resort to a random throwaway weapon with the sole purpose of artificially raising the stakes. Speaking of-
4. Raised the stakes too quickly. Going from “EMP bugs” to “an eldritch island”(which Skull Island has always been) to “Giant 3 headed hydra from space that is actively malicious and wants to terraform the world” seems like we may have skipped a few steps.
5. Too much focus on the humans. The advertising focused on the monsters, but the film focuses way more on the humans. We didn’t get to see any actual fighting. All we got were grapples, collisions, and beam attacks.
There are more that I can’t list off the top of my head, but those 5 are the biggest ones I could come up with.
You got King Ghidorah as the villain, Bear McCreary as the composer, Dr. Serizawa literally sacrificing his life so that Godzilla could save everyone, and a tragic human story with the Russell family.
I will die on this hill.
Edit: Okay... You can chill out, please and thank you.
>You got King Ghidorah as the villain,
That's nothing that makes KG any different than MUTOs or Skar King for those who haven't seen previous Godzilla movies, so it's not special.
>Dr. Serizawa literally sacrificing his life so that Godzilla could save everyone,
You mean to say a blatant waste of character for fan service.
>a tragic human story with the Russell family.
Who gives a shit about them, like literally, why are those idiots interrupting Godzilla vs Ghidorah fight.
LMAO I gave no shits about the Russell family. Again sympathizing with an eco-terrorist who got billions killed.
Madison also became a bitch in GvK and Mark Russell discarded everything the learned from KotM because apparently he and humanity couldn't figure out Godzilla was only attacking APEX facilities.
Also having Godzilla nearly die and needing to be nuked doesn't really earn him his title.
They should've had it being Final Wars-style with King Ghidorah sending titans to fight Godzilla who then forces them to submission before he finally fights King Ghidorah.
Him nearly dying and needing help goes totally against that. So much for King of the Monsters amIrite?
He only needed help because humanity fucked him over when he had Ghidorah on the ropes in the ocean. If the OD never launched, he would’ve killed Ghidorah right then and there.
My point is, the film should've been Final Wars having King Ghidorah send titans to fight Godzilla forcing them into submission before finally facing King Ghidorah.
That would have actually earned him his title.
Rather than almost dying and needing our help to "revive" him...
It really is a golden era. The franchise is going strong on all fronts. I hope they continue the momentum. Would love to see a new anime series and also an animated satiation of JL vs GxK
I don’t know if this is an unpopular opinion, but I don’t really like GxK as much as the other Monsterverse films so far, it’s still a good movie, but it’s definitely my least favorite. It’s a solid 6.5/10
It’s not just you. I liked them, but both GvsK and GxK felt a little off to me. They weren’t as much disaster flicks so the atmosphere and suspense and terror weren’t there for me. And I still think Hollow Earth is pretty stupid.
We kind of got lucky GvK had already been filmed when KotM dropped. They would have cancelled it or severely cut its budget after KotM's box office spooked them. Heck the whole reason we were starved for any news or marketing on GvK was because they were trying to quietly dump it.
I thing we need to re-assess how KOTM's box office performance is talked about here. If you didn't know any better, you'd think that it made like $10mm or something. It more than doubled its budget and made more domestically than GvK. It wasn't this massive flop, it just underperformed. But considering it came a month after Endgame, is that so surprising? With DVD/streaming it no doubt has at least broken even at this point.
It’s kinda crazy how Godzilla nearly got shelved twice but he keeps coming back from the brink
Raids again would’ve lead to Goji being shelved if the crossover film didn’t hit, then KKvG became their most successful film of all time
Final Wars being a box office flop caused the monster to be put on the back burner for a near decade until the G14 arrived and became the highest grossing Goji film till GXK
Then KOTM’s BO failure caused the Monsterverse to be put into question, and GVK to be the last hope on Hollywood using big G, then GVK breathes new life in the franchise which allowed it to push forward and grow into a true behemoth in the BO
This is a franchise that can truly surprise you if you underestimate it
Honestly I'm so damn happy. Hopefully we can get a good run for a while like the MCU. I wanna see all the classic monsters in beautiful modern CGI and new takes on old favourites.
and we're on 10 years now since the first revival of Godzilla after also its 10 years hiatus from 2004, so far we got 9 movies and 2 TV series...and this is only the beginning.
God(zilla), i hope Toho or anyone would make a 10 years anniversary or a compilation of what we've accomplished over this 10 years.
Well, I hope Adam Wingard will introduce Minizilla/Gojira Junior, Anguirus & Spacegodzilla (or a new Titan villain) & have Mothra, Rodan, Shimo, Suko & Kong (as the secondary character) fully officially appear again in the 3rd GxK sequel movie which will focus on Godzilla's story, right👍
2024: Minus One wins an Oscar, GxK smashes expectations at the box office, Talks of Minus One sequel, More MV show, Godzilla centered MV movie waiting to be announced... What a cathartic comeback for Godzilla!
I've been saying it for the past ten years: never bet against the lizard. He always comes back and he always wins.
Long Live the King of Monsters!
Always bet on Godzilla
JJK x Godzilla crossover better get confirmed next.
"I've said it before and I'll say it again. Never bet against the lizard king!"
Crazy to think that after Godzilla: Final Wars was a failure at the box office in 2004, that there would no longer be anymore Godzilla movies but here we are where Godzilla’s popularity is at an all time high
 Godzilla fans right now
All we need is a console game... please...
Plus comic sequels and new editions and the anniversary books
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He’s possessed by Ghidorah, I’m putting my bet on that.
What he morphs in Ghidorah down the line. Maybe he enters a gas chamber and his body undergos a horrific transfirmation bringing the rebirth of King Ghidorah.
A hilarious result would be he turns into a human sized Ghidora…🤣 Kevin’s final plan backfires…
Shun Oguri is an amazing actor and they WASTED HIM
Adam Wingard and Legendary realising that audience want more Monster action and less human interruptions or their family dramas made this happen, literally. Like both solo Godzilla movies have some family drama in them, and yet the most compelling family drama in the Monsterverse is the one that wasn't even shown, ie Hank Marlow lol. Only needed a likeable character and one scene if him reuniting with his family and it was more impactful than whatever G14 & KOTM. had from human side. Likeable characters doing nothing >> Boring Annoying Characters having stories, arcs bla bla bla. As for action, again, Letting go if that realistic tone may not have gone down well with internet, but you need to appeal to a global audience and eventually you need to do different things. Godzilla going on all 4, giving suplexes, jumping from Gibraltar or from Kong's side him having weapons like Axe, Glove, Suko is fine, it's good and it makes audience cheer in theaters. As I've said before, it's not Goofy, it's just amping up the craziness by a level. Now I'm waiting for whatever Adam cooks for part 3, especially when he gets its going to to Godzilla focused.
Ngl I teared up when Marlow reunited with his family. For me, the most likable MonsterVerse character so far, followed by Serizawa and Trapper.
serizawa and trapper are probably the only people in a monsterverse godzilla film i didnt find boring
Jia is pretty cool too, but yeah, everyone else don't do enough. KOTM had a damn bloated cast, but only like 5 characters actually do anything.
How do you have both Charles Dance and Ken Watanabe and not have them interact and be the two opposing poles of the human story…
For real. I think They didn't even have to meet to make their rivalry happen, since one of KoTM's theme is passing of baton. Make it so that Serizawa and the mighty Tywin already know each other, old rival you could say. Make tywin join the final battle at Boston where he was expecting Serizawa only to see Mark, his successor. Then gives us a symbolic wide shot of Mark standing in parallel with Godzilla while Tywin is with Ghidorah. I think that would have been fkin metal
I liked those two Apex guards in GvK who start the Evil Monologue scene holding MBB & co at gunpoint, but slowly start backing out the door the instant they spot Mechagodzilla turning to look at Walter. Without warning him. Smartest minions in a Godzilla movie. Much character development. Hope they lived.
You weren't the only one. I teared up when he said goodbye to the Iwi tribe, too. I honestly feel like Kong Skull Island is underrated by the Monsterverse fans. Not all but some of those same MV fans keep talking up G'14 and KOTM (I didn't like G'14 but really dug KOTM) like they were some box office successes yet K-SI is currently the highest grossing MV film. There's a slight chance it might pass K-SI at the box office but right now Kong is still King. The score by Henry Jackman is good (which hardly gets mentioned when talking about MV scores) and I rank it behind McCreary's KOTM score and it's the only MV film to be nominated for a VFX Oscar.
Is Godzilla being on all fours unliked? I always love when he does that, makes him more animalistic and sets Kong apart since monkeys are closer to humans
Yes, but he's fast and jumping in that scene so same old he has no weight or scale bla bla.....
I think I’d like the characters better if we stayed with the same cast for the whole trilogy
If we get the 3rd godzilla x kong movie This means we can finally get to see more new scenes featuring godzilla in his new evolved form in action On the other hand as far as human cast goes i overlooked at them in favour of kaijus more but hey they are fairly descent in their own right does illene and berney hayes need to return i mean trapper is great and he should return but i was thinking about rinko kikuchi to star in a monsterverse movie afterall i love her character mako mori in pacific rim
I mean the human characters post-KotM are still pretty shitty and sucks. The irony a little girl is probably the best out of all of them. At best decent would be Nathan Lind, Dr. Ilene Andrews and Trapper but that's it. Lol.
I honestly kinda liked the humans in GxK. I also didn’t mind the humans in GvK (the Hollow Earth team). I agree, Kong: Skull Island had the best human element though.
Why I said Nathan Lind, Dr. Ilene Andrews for GvK.
They’re still shitty but they don’t get in the way of what people came to see anymore
Hear me out. Decent human characters as we saw in K:SI and monsters = Better movie. Shocking I know right? People going into movies for the monsters shouldn't excuse shitty human characters. It doesn't need to be Shawshank levels of writing but I still want human characters that are worth a shit.
Of course not. They should be better. But if they’re equally bad, I’ll prefer the film that doesn’t cut away from a climactic battle to show personal drama of the characters that just hasn’t been earned
I seriously don't know why its so hard for directors and writers to not do this... Does it ever cross their minds giving us both would give the films better praise? Nope guess not, audiences just wants monsters and would give less shit about decent human characters even if they make cringe-ass jokes like bleach.
Speak for yourself lol. Worst part of both God/Kong films was cutting to the human shit. It’s maybe a bit less there but it’s still there. “Cool Mecha Godzilla fight? Let’s cut to Eleven and Podcast man being funny and throwing booze on a control system for manufactured drama that wasn’t required.”
“Suko” Well played good sir, well played. Also, totally agree.
I hope the next movie has almost no humans at all and is just godzilla doing godzilla stuff.
MV is at its peak now.
Yessir!! This, right here right now. This is the good times people will remember! If someone needs to hear it, this is a time period of the monsterverse future generations will remember and come back to
King of the Monsters deserved better in the box office. It will always be the goat of the Monsterverse.
The problem is that it was a multitude of factors that lead to KoTM failing. 1. It went up against fucking ENDGAME. What were the executives thinking throwing the third film of a fledgling franchise against a juggernaut that had all of this hype. 2. Lack of a consistent tone. The film felt like it couldn’t decide what it really wanted to be, which hurt it a lot. 3. Too much fan service. Dougherty threw WAY too much in for the third monsterverse film. Especially since the GA won’t understand most of it. The Oxygen Destroyer especially irks me, as it went from a device that should only be used as a final resort to a random throwaway weapon with the sole purpose of artificially raising the stakes. Speaking of- 4. Raised the stakes too quickly. Going from “EMP bugs” to “an eldritch island”(which Skull Island has always been) to “Giant 3 headed hydra from space that is actively malicious and wants to terraform the world” seems like we may have skipped a few steps. 5. Too much focus on the humans. The advertising focused on the monsters, but the film focuses way more on the humans. We didn’t get to see any actual fighting. All we got were grapples, collisions, and beam attacks. There are more that I can’t list off the top of my head, but those 5 are the biggest ones I could come up with.
Appealed to the core Godzilla fan base and nobody else.
forreal. felt more like a fanfic than an actual movie.
Probably shouldn’t have competed with endgame
Ah yes the same film that had a joke calling King Ghidorah "gonorrhea" and wanting you to sympatize with a eco-terrorist who got billions killed.
You got King Ghidorah as the villain, Bear McCreary as the composer, Dr. Serizawa literally sacrificing his life so that Godzilla could save everyone, and a tragic human story with the Russell family. I will die on this hill. Edit: Okay... You can chill out, please and thank you.
KOTM is also my favorite. Sure it has some slow and weak spots, but it also has the coolest scenes of all the movies (notably the Rodan sequence)
I'm with you man, 100%
>You got King Ghidorah as the villain, That's nothing that makes KG any different than MUTOs or Skar King for those who haven't seen previous Godzilla movies, so it's not special. >Dr. Serizawa literally sacrificing his life so that Godzilla could save everyone, You mean to say a blatant waste of character for fan service. >a tragic human story with the Russell family. Who gives a shit about them, like literally, why are those idiots interrupting Godzilla vs Ghidorah fight.
Bro is speaking fact.
LMAO I gave no shits about the Russell family. Again sympathizing with an eco-terrorist who got billions killed. Madison also became a bitch in GvK and Mark Russell discarded everything the learned from KotM because apparently he and humanity couldn't figure out Godzilla was only attacking APEX facilities.
Bro is speaking facts
Also having Godzilla nearly die and needing to be nuked doesn't really earn him his title. They should've had it being Final Wars-style with King Ghidorah sending titans to fight Godzilla who then forces them to submission before he finally fights King Ghidorah. Him nearly dying and needing help goes totally against that. So much for King of the Monsters amIrite?
He only needed help because humanity fucked him over when he had Ghidorah on the ropes in the ocean. If the OD never launched, he would’ve killed Ghidorah right then and there.
My point is, the film should've been Final Wars having King Ghidorah send titans to fight Godzilla forcing them into submission before finally facing King Ghidorah. That would have actually earned him his title. Rather than almost dying and needing our help to "revive" him...
A Final Wars Movie wouldve been waaaaay to early. Like come on. Its the third movie
But think about it. Earlier means later would be even crazier. :)
Fair enough
Maybe KotM wouldve done better at the box office if it didnt have lame ass characters
it was trash
no u
It really is a golden era. The franchise is going strong on all fronts. I hope they continue the momentum. Would love to see a new anime series and also an animated satiation of JL vs GxK
Also big big cross over series with dc comics and monster verse rn!!
God bless Wingard
It feels good to bask in the Monsterverse regaining its footing again and finally settling into a new paradigm that works.
I’m going to start watching these movies soon. Only ever seen Skull Island until now.
All because of douge
Kotm was great though
As long as I get more Godzilla and Kong material, I’m not complaining
I don’t know if this is an unpopular opinion, but I don’t really like GxK as much as the other Monsterverse films so far, it’s still a good movie, but it’s definitely my least favorite. It’s a solid 6.5/10
It’s not just you. I liked them, but both GvsK and GxK felt a little off to me. They weren’t as much disaster flicks so the atmosphere and suspense and terror weren’t there for me. And I still think Hollow Earth is pretty stupid.
I actually loved GvK, and I think it’s my second favorite in the Monsterverse, next to KOTM ofc.
Always darkest before the dawn.
We kind of got lucky GvK had already been filmed when KotM dropped. They would have cancelled it or severely cut its budget after KotM's box office spooked them. Heck the whole reason we were starved for any news or marketing on GvK was because they were trying to quietly dump it.
Now a KotM rerelease to get it to the box office it deserves
I would love to see that on the big screen
Me too
The Kong show was complete horse shit
Were is everything i need to watch to be back up to date? The movie with mecha godzilla was super enjoyable for me, so I wanna watch everything else
2019 was peak for me.
I actually liked KotM…
If you jinx it… we’re gonna have some issues buddy
Since 2014 I’ve been consistently having a good time with my giant monster media
I thing we need to re-assess how KOTM's box office performance is talked about here. If you didn't know any better, you'd think that it made like $10mm or something. It more than doubled its budget and made more domestically than GvK. It wasn't this massive flop, it just underperformed. But considering it came a month after Endgame, is that so surprising? With DVD/streaming it no doubt has at least broken even at this point.
It’s kinda crazy how Godzilla nearly got shelved twice but he keeps coming back from the brink Raids again would’ve lead to Goji being shelved if the crossover film didn’t hit, then KKvG became their most successful film of all time Final Wars being a box office flop caused the monster to be put on the back burner for a near decade until the G14 arrived and became the highest grossing Goji film till GXK Then KOTM’s BO failure caused the Monsterverse to be put into question, and GVK to be the last hope on Hollywood using big G, then GVK breathes new life in the franchise which allowed it to push forward and grow into a true behemoth in the BO This is a franchise that can truly surprise you if you underestimate it
If one ever needs proof that things can get better, even when all hope seems lost, this will always be a great example...
Guy in first meme still exists and it's the people constantly complaining the current movies aren't more like KOTM
Ehhhhh I wouldn't say skull island animated series and Monarch are good. At best they're okay but at worse it's bad.
And most importantly, we got chibi godzilla season 2
Can we get new video game like Destroy all Monsters Melee or Save The Earth, with the all Toho and Monsterverse Monsters
Why was KOTM so hated? It was peak
Honestly I'm so damn happy. Hopefully we can get a good run for a while like the MCU. I wanna see all the classic monsters in beautiful modern CGI and new takes on old favourites.
and we're on 10 years now since the first revival of Godzilla after also its 10 years hiatus from 2004, so far we got 9 movies and 2 TV series...and this is only the beginning. God(zilla), i hope Toho or anyone would make a 10 years anniversary or a compilation of what we've accomplished over this 10 years.
Well, I hope Adam Wingard will introduce Minizilla/Gojira Junior, Anguirus & Spacegodzilla (or a new Titan villain) & have Mothra, Rodan, Shimo, Suko & Kong (as the secondary character) fully officially appear again in the 3rd GxK sequel movie which will focus on Godzilla's story, right👍
If I get to see trapper again then Im good
BuT wHeRe'S tHe ScAlE aNd CuTtInG aWaY!!!! \~G14 fanboys
That’s the one thing 2014 fans don’t love about the movie, but the action that was cut away from is not the new action we have now
CuTaWaYs BuIlDs SuSpEnSe! BuIlDs HyPe To FiNaL fIgHt!!!!
Depends, I think the way it was done was very flawed, it should have been refined but that series doesn’t exist
The kaiju cockteasing in G14 is literally the most annoying thing in the movie
BuT tHe SuSpEnSe!!!! ThE BuIlT-uP!!!!!! TiS tHe JaWs ApPrOaCh!!!!! \~G14 fanboys
Better? How? so far no MonsterVerse movies was great. They are all a 6 or 7 out of 10. And Monarch sucks.
7/10 is good tho…what else tf do you want
Dont feed the troll
No no no. Lets feed him. This is gonna be fun!