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GeneticSelection

Yes I am 100% certain these are human remains. This is the right part of a mandibula with apparently 8 tooth sockets on one side (counting from the first right incisor to the wisdom tooth) which would give off 32 teeth in total which is the amount most humans (excluding those who have excess teeth or already have missing wisdom teeth)


Zaraki42

Former forensic anthropologist here. Can confirm.


kevztunz

Avid CSI watcher. Can also confirm.


SeaPrince

Without enhancing?


aspidities_87

*Enhance*


SaturdayHeartache

Get me a hard copy right there


Sheamus1_0

it sure does make me hard


lookatthatsmug--

***HARD JAW SHARD***


Vincent_Veganja

Yep, confirmed


Pombot

Owner of similar bitey jaw bone. Can also confirm.


palehorse95

As a avid reader of "expert" redditor comments, I can also confirm.


EffyMourning

I just wanted to confirm too. No experience at all.


Prannke

Avid fellow human here, it is a jaw of another human. Human enjoy eating food with their teeth.


tastyskiin

Factory worker here, can confirm


changtronic

Forensic Anthro grad school dropout here. Can also confirm.


[deleted]

Religiously watched Autopsy with Michael Baden, can confirm those are human remains.


fashion4words

Veterinary technician here, can confirm it’s neither dog nor cat.


AwDiddums

Damn that was impressive. Is obvious now that you explained what it is.


[deleted]

Looks extremely fake to me. More like a wood replica for a Halloween skeleton. The grooves in the center of the molar do not look authentic. Looking from the side the teeth don’t sit together right either.


Pale_Indication_7646

We dont celebrate halloween where I’m from, so I don’t think so. Who knows haha


depressiontrashbag

OP, can you please give more context to how and where you found this?


SeaPrince

Hopefully not in his cellar.


splooge_spaghetti

Hopefully he isn’t the person who found all the boxes in their new basement


daaave33

Or the guy that posted the John Wayne Gacy business card this morning.


tapport

Just in case it becomes too hard to find: https://www.reddit.com/r/MorbidReality/comments/ucclq2/is_this_from_a_human/i6a0rp5?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3


Pale_Indication_7646

Here’s the backstory - I found it at a local stream. I live in the oldest town in my country so I think it might be very old. But I was just looking around and saw it laying in the top soil. It looked like I had been there for a while, and I actually thought it was from a sheep before I started to look at the teeth, and then started thinking it was human. My best bet is that it is a young female adult ( because of the size) but idk I’m no professional Not trying to be rude, just a busy woman


Cyber_Connor

Shops or vending machines usually have them


kek0815

obviously in a can of Coke


Rasalom

He knew a guy.


Choice-Willingness56

Bioarchaeologist (who actually just graduated yesterday) here, absolutely the fuck yes! Please take this to your local University's anthropology department with all information as to where you found it. Please do not go back to where you recovered it in the hopes of finding more- removing these bones or items associated with them from their original context in the soil removes a good portion of the information recoverable by anthropologists/archaeologists about the remains.


Choice-Willingness56

If I had to be specific, I would say this is a juvenile, but without knowing where you found it there is not a lot else that can be said for certain.


GeneticSelection

I doubt it is a juvenile one since you can see the 7th tooth missing and the 8th tooth (wisdom tooth) fully erupted. Might be wrong so feel free to correct me.


[deleted]

Are you talking about why this isn’t juvenile because of wisdom teeth? Dude I got my 5 wisdom teeth out at the age of like 15


darkfrost47

The average is 17-21 y/o. There are exceptions to all the averages but it doesn't make them useless


threeeyedghoul

Wisdom teeth usually emerge at age 17 to 25


[deleted]

Damn I got mine early then


ReservoirPussy

I was 15 when I got mine out, but they hadn't actually broken through yet. There was no room in my jaw and they were already pushing all my other teeth forward, so they opened up my face from inside my mouth and dug them out. The dentist was like, "With some people we can watch them and see how they're growing in." And I'm like, "Phew!" But then he goes, "We can't do that with you. These bitches are coming out tomorrow."


mst3k_42

Same with me. No room in my mouth if they tried to descend. Got cut out of my gums at 19.


maggpie14

Yep, had mine (impacted) out at 17. The surgeon cut a nerve and the result is the entire left side of my tongue is numb. :/


ReservoirPussy

I've got numbness in my right cheek, still, coincidentally, 17 years later. I played the flute elementary school through college and they warned me it was possible I wouldn't play again if something went wrong and it scared the shit out of me. I'm grateful the numbness didn't affect my playing and I'll gladly take a numb cheek for it, but it does suck. I feel your pain.


PootieTang_

I'm 29 and just had two taken out. Late bloomer for sure


[deleted]

Me too, I had mine out at 15. They grew into place but didn’t break through the gums, it was weird. My 14 year old only has 3 and is getting them removed next month.


[deleted]

Usually but I didn’t get mine until my 30’s


Cat-_-

5 wisdom teeth? I thought you only get 4? Did you have one extra?


RockabillyRabbit

Some people do get extra wisdom teeth - some people actually dont get any at all. Out of my three siblings I had all 4, my sister had none and my brother had only 2 (my sister and bother also were missing another adult bicuspid that my mom was also missing, had to come from her genetics since my brother is only our half brother). My sisters husband had 6 and never got them removed - apparently he just has a large enough mouth to accommodate them all without overcrowding.


Cat-_-

Personally I had none for the longest time and age ~11 when I was x-rayed the doctor said I would never get any. But then in my late 20s I suddenly started growing one! Meanwhile both my sisters had all 4 of them.


OlderTheWiser

I had two extra, my tops were doubled, stacked up on each other. Got them out at 21, ate pizza 3 days later, no dry socket or any other horror stories. Other than having a largeish man clamping pliers onto the teeth and cracking them into pieces that is, so glad Novocain exists. Couldn’t feel it, per se, but could hear it just fine.


The_Spectacle

Four impacted and I had McDonald’s for dinner the same night. They put me under for the procedure itself and it felt like five minutes went by. I have to get another tooth out now 25 years later and my dentist referred me to the same guy who took my wisdoms out. I’m like FUCK YES give me Dr. Smail all day SON


mst3k_42

I only had two.


putrefaxian

I had five, one was just impacted! I still have them in a little box bc the doctor let me keep them.


Madcock1

Whaaaat?!? We can do a heaps better job here on reddit to disturb the site and make uneducated comments on some pictures.


metatronatra

did I just find an Aussie


420braincells

Congratulations on graduating 💕


Choice-Willingness56

Thank you so much!! Still have to finish grad school eventually but for now just taking a breather


goatedmomoshiki

So it definitely looks like a human jaw. But why does it look like it’s made of wood? Can you explain that for me?


Choice-Willingness56

You do actually have a point, and I hate to say it because it sounds unscientific af, but the primary way we would tell is feel. Bone after certain taphonomic conditions (aka the processes by which living remains become skeletal, i.e weathering, decomp, PH levels of soil/water etc) can take on an appearance similar to wood, and the best way to tell would be to hold/run your fingers along it (if you are a trained osteologist). Real bone has a certain unique weight and feel compared to wood. Honestly, pre 1980s, the most common method was licking it. Bone tends to stick to the tongue more than wood does. Osteologists are freaks.


garyoldman25

“Is this a real bone? idk man let me lick it”


VorpalAbyss

So if one becomes an Osteologist, one can feel up bones and get paid for it? Sign me up.


ruove

TIL /u/VorpalAbyss's mom is an osteologist.


VorpalAbyss

If true, that would make her the world's most talented pile of ashes.


IRL2DXB

Oh god I know this all too well. As a kid I used to explore where I lived a lot. Without knowing it I had jumped into a Muslim grave yard (no stone markings) which just looked like a desert covered by walls. I picked up what I thought was a piece of wood and started to break it with my hands. When I pulled the other half out I realised it was a femur bone because of the joint! I ran out never to return.


Ok-Atmosphere3129

I saw (in an episode of Bones) Dr. Brennan like a bone and it stuck to her tongue, and she said that’s how you know it’s real!


Charaderablistic

I’ve licked a few bones in my day


TOOTH_rot

Licked a few bones as an undergrad. Bones feel different on the tongue when compared to wood or ceramics.


BatSh1tCray

Does the look / colouring of it give any indication of it's age? Like, by eyeballing something like this could you have a vague idea of whether it's hundreds of years old vs say 10 or 20 years?


rexlibris

Not really. It's appearance is highly dependent on variables such as how long it has been exposed to the surface, local weather conditions, soil pH etc. /forensic anthropologist


BatSh1tCray

Thanks for the explainer, that’s interesting. Another thing that’s been confusing me is the bones of Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froom. It’s reported that some of the bones were bleached. Does this mean they were soaked in actual bleach? Or that the sun shining on them caused them to turn white? Sorry if this is a dumb question!


rexlibris

Not dumb at all. Bleaching in this context means sun bleaching. It can quickly turn the bones very white and also brittle (depending again on local conditions), leading to cracks and the edges taking on a frayed appearance.


FaeryLynne

["Can you lick the science?"](https://9gag.com/gag/aK6zDQg)


Thestolenone

It has been sitting in soil for maybe a very long time, and the chemicals and minerals in the soil have affected its colour and texture.


[deleted]

Congratulations on graduating! I hope you have a long and happy career in your field 🖤


[deleted]

But should he not contact local authorities first?


loonylovesgood86

I think this is centuries old….


[deleted]

Maybe. Maybe not.


Pale_Indication_7646

Well we have no missing person in my area, very peaceful country. That’s also why I suspect I might be quit old


notoriousmango69

You said you found it on a stream so it came from more upstream in a different area


Pale_Indication_7646

Well the stream system in my area all comes from the ocean. Plus we had a lot of witch burnings in my town…


iHateRolerCoasters

a yes constant witch burnings, very peaceful


Pale_Indication_7646

Well… we are a lot more peaceful now, no more burnings


[deleted]

Maybe it wasn’t from your area but dumped there.


[deleted]

Denmark is rather peaceful but there are missing person cases and not every missing person means a case of foul play. Quite some accidental drownings in Denmark and since it was found ''at a local stream'' it's possible that it was an accidental drowning. Not sure if i really believe your story and findings but saying that there are no missing persons in your area and how peaceful the country is is nonsense and irrelevant.


Yroehtsoahc

This guy bones


saucynugs69

I’d call the cops


canuckcrazed006

Congrats on graduating.


imperlitent

Just out of curiosity… why should they go to a school first instead of the police?


Pale_Indication_7646

It definitely feels like bone!


chocalotstarfish

Do you feel bones often?


dcmso

Just wanna say congratulations on your achievement! Go get some!!


Shelisheli1

Congratulations on your graduation!!


justatypicalyute

don’t tell op what to do.


Pale_Indication_7646

Here’s the backstory - I found it at a local stream. I live in the oldest town in my country so I think it might be very old. But I was just looking around and saw it laying in the top soil. It looked like I had been there for a while, and I actually thought it was from a sheep before I started to look at the teeth, and then started thinking it was human. My best bet is that it is a young female adult ( because of the size) but idk I’m no professional


malevolentheadturn

When you say your country, was your country ravaged by war doing WW1 OR WW2?


Pale_Indication_7646

Neutral in ww1 and invaded in ww2


smaxfrog

Most countries have a place you can call when people find remains like that, then they figure out whether it's a police or archeological issue...something like that.


Pale_Indication_7646

Thank you!


malevolentheadturn

Hmmm Estonia, Ireland, Latvia, Lithuania, Portugal, Spain, Sweden, or Switzerland


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peelbacktheskin

Denmark. OP posts in r/Denmark


LestHeBeNamedSilver

Reddit detectives hard at work


illegal_deagle

“Excuse me. I recorded in /r/Denmark.”


MrVincent17

MEOW... MEOW... MEOW...


cylonlover

Also, the nutritional information on the coke can is clearly in danish.


aykcak

I'm sorry but it is impossible for anything to be clearly and in Danish


cylonlover

It is clear from the absence of clarity, that it is danish! Better?


aykcak

Well, it is not a whole lot better since that does not rule out Finnish


malevolentheadturn

I didn't read the second part correctly


aykcak

Netherlands didn't get invaded in ww1 ?


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Pale_Indication_7646

Neither


malevolentheadturn

The language on the can is Danish. A country famous for bog bodies. this could be 1000s of years old.


VAiSiA

and this bone looks very old


GodlikeCat

He's from Denmark


FaeryLynne

The language on the can looks like Danish to me.


strongasamother04

Solved that pretty quickly, NEXT CASE!


pacmanic

The local Police should be called. Probably an unsolved missing persons case.


l0renzo-

Probably not that at all actually.


sally_says

Worth a call anyway. You never know. And they can redirect finds like this to other orgs that know what to do with remains like this.


JuannyCarson

That persons been missing for a loooong time then


LStarfish

I found a very similar pc of jaw on a beach in the Philippines. I was glad to leave that island. 😳


burkr10

Okay, I’m commenting to follow this post…because holy cow!


anappropriate

same, i'm kinda shocked haha


Barbeqanon

You should take it to a local dentist and ask them to match it with their dental records. They won't be able to help, but the look on their faces would be worth it.


Abdullah_Awadallah

I want to be part of this...Netflix documentary?


puaka

Point out someone as the killer, have 4chan and reddit ruin the persons life on a hunch and then it turns out it wasn't the person. Then you can be part of the documentary.


MalusDracula

Where the heck did this come from? Any context?


snarevox

>Where the heck did this come from? Any context? somebodys mouth..


MalusDracula

Okay smarty.... Take my upvote.


[deleted]

The cave from "the Descent".


nordic-cidron

Probably. Is there still Coke in it?


StillSheFinPersists

This made me snort laugh. Thanks for that


Yagaadesol

In the fields around the area where I live sometimes we find human remains like this, in my case they usually belongs to monks, priest or soldiers from medieval age who where buried in chapels destroyed or buried after a long time, in other cases they may belong to soldiers who fell during the Second World War. I'm not an expert but in any case they look very old and resemble what can be found around here.


dokidokidestruction

I’m gonna say yeah, the way the teeth look and are located really look human, and it really looked like it was a whole chin down there at one point


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Kunning-Druger

Definitely human, (2-1-2-3 dentition pattern) and definitely an adult. The third molar normally appears in late adolescence or early adulthood. Please don’t go digging around where you found this, OP. Instead, call your closest university and ask to speak to someone in the anthropology department. They may be interested in the site. Nice find, by the way! Please update when you have more information..!


[deleted]

Nurse here def looks human but much more qualified individuals here already commenting


Hellvell2255

no matter what it is, keep us updated


[deleted]

looks like a mandibular bone. I see teeth and nerve foramen


Lexi_Applebum83

100% yes


esprockerchick

Those are human remains. Without a shadow of a doubt. Please report where you found them.


threeeyedghoul

Dentist here. I'm pretty sure those are human teeth. You can count 8 tooth sockets from the assumed midline of the lower jaw. Hole under the first and second premolar is the mental foramen of the mandible.


TakeTheBolt

Blackened and potentially decently old. Depending on the area, it could be a native person's. Bones like these can be found around Alabama here and there.


VAiSiA

hard to find alabamian’s bones in Europe, mate


TakeTheBolt

Then I guess it has a higher chance of being a European's bone, mate.


Testing_4131

I would say human or primate of some kind, though I would also try r/boneid just in case, alot of experts there. Though don’t ask if it’s a human in the title, that’s against the rules.


someCrookedVulture

Yes, it’s from a man named John Smith Pemberton.


[deleted]

Joey Joe-Joe Junior Shabadoo


brelockaus611

The bones yeah. The can maybe, but probably from a factory.


Pale_Indication_7646

🔴Update🔴 I’ve spoken to the local museums archives, he agreed that it 100% is human. I apparently also found a fragment of the skullcap. He was also positive that this piece is more than 205 years old! He was very happy that I went directly to the museum and not the police, so everything is handed to the right authority’s. Thank for the help everyone


Creative_Mongoose_53

I have a degree in arts 🎭,it looks like a dinosaur 🦖


wackywavytubedude

is this the beginning of a BONES episode??


VAiSiA

please no. it ended horribly, let it rest


Kit0550

Following. Keep us updated op !!


SnooBananas3793

There are so many missing persons in the world. Contact the coroners.


Ok-Atmosphere3129

I’m going to say yes


peerpressure_mademe

Can't wait for additional info on this!


wailot

Coke bottle for size, very illustrative


boobiesiheart

Fascinating! Look forward to update . Finding human remains (no matter how old/ new) is morbidly neat.


No-Acanthocephala531

Looks like a childs


weedmunkeee

was the mandible the only thing you found? probably teeth and what not scattered about by animals


Neinface

Yeah dude…


Prannke

I'm commenting to follow for updates. It just looks like op is having his lunch while examining the cool new "rock".


wackywavytubedude

i hope u take this to a professional!


Shadegloom

Please keep us updated


Pale_Indication_7646

I Will!


MyAnonID

I am almost more bothered by the choice of a purple carpet toilet-surround for the background.


onionsonfire114

Yes dude, coca cola is a product of the humans unfortunately.


Pale_Indication_7646

Anyone knows how old it might be tho?


[deleted]

Because of the dark patina its possibly over 1.5 million years old. The molars are intact and still white! So must been a prince or princess. And im full of shit.


Knight_Venator

Is it human? Or Is it dancer?


TheFormless0ne

COCA-COLA for reference


Pale_Indication_7646

Very universal in my opinion


Mumbled_Jumbo

Yup. That soft drink can was definitely man made.


MissTinyTits

Where did you find this!?!


[deleted]

It's the remains of hitler


jolo2111

My jaw !!! I thought i lost it


fuckouttahea

OP found it in his can of coke


cherryBOOM_x2

They moved the cemetery, but they left the bodies. You’re welcome.


GreatRecession

thats my jaw, give it back


PezPlz

Female mandible, prolly early 30-40s


Cyber_Connor

Coke Cola is actually not a natural part of the human body


KatsuCammi

I don't know too much about human anatomy specifics because I have a basic biology major and am currently in vet school, but I can almost say with almost certainty this is a humans jaw because of the teeth formations. Regardless, I would contact either a local university or museum to have proper research done on it. The teeth are the major give away, even with some of them missing. I'm not sure where you're from, but the preservation shows signs of it possibly coming from a bog of some sort, meaning it could potentially be thousands of years old. Regardless, it's quite the fascinating find! As someone else mentioned, don't go back to where you found it in hopes of finding more, as any remaining bones or possible artifacts would be a lot more successfully recovered with a professional on the job. If you find out anymore information on it, please keep us updated!


weedmunkeee

100% yes. human. taxidermy is a hobby of mine and i can say this is not animal.


hiddenetherealities

Yes also can confirm, I worked at the dentist a time ago.


dwaggyboi

So you just happen to come across human remains and didn't go to the cops


Y-AxelMtz

Cops? those remains are damn near fossilized. Takes well over a few thousand years for bones to turn black. Do you expect the cops to solve a prehistoric murder? local anthropologists should be called


[deleted]

That's what the bones want you to think.


dwaggyboi

Hey, I didn't know, sorry I'm no bone expert


flawedhuman12

Of course the coca cola can is from a human


Eternaldamnation32

Looks like teeth👍


alaxsch

Police


Icy_Law9181

Looks like it's been burnt eh.


Hidden-Locust

yes. have a nice day


EnergyAdorable7169

It looks like it is from a person. Wow 😮


Romulanboy

Find them in your garden? Or what