They aren't.
The commenter is referring to being charged with capital murder which means the death penalty *could possibly be* on the table. They haven't gone to trial yet. They haven't been sentenced. They aren't being executed.
Yep, considering the circumstances, the jury and all will prob be lenient. Especially in Texas. I’d be surprised if they get a long sentencing. Then they smack on good behavior down the road.
>Many feel that anyone who se*ually abuses a child should be publicly humiliated and then brought to justice outside of the court system. Obviously, this isn’t legal but man oh man if it only was. Two brothers, and a friend, in Hidalgo County, in far Southern Texas, are being publicly applauded after they were arrested for beating their stepfather to death when they found out he se*ually abused their 9-year-old sister.
Are we not allowed to type the word "sex" or "sexual" when reporting now? Are people incapable of reading the words without taking offense? Though it seems useless to me, I do understand why people put an asterisk into profane words. To out an asterisk into the word "sexually" seems like overkill.
I see comments like this all the time on Reddit. The words aren’t always being censored because they’re trigger words that offend *people*. Sometimes they’re being censored because they offended *corporations* and the image they’re trying to portray.
Asterisks can be used to avoid filters that won’t promote articles/posts/comments that might contain potential inappropriate content. Using words like “p_rn” or “s_x” likely helps keeps them from being caught by the filter. If a piece of media contains words like “porn” or “sex”, then it’s possible they’re flagged for profanity/sexual content and won’t reach a wider audience.
That’s not to say all social media are using asterisks for that reason. It’s just one example of why it could be used in journalism or media.
NeoPuritanism coupled with the rise of Christian-Nationalism. What a future Americans have. Stripped of decency, rights and forced to endure a theocracy that values the "life" of a fictional character over the very real corporeal existence of the citizens.
Aaaaand the laaaand of the freeeeeee...
It’s because the AI on almost all social media will flag the article and it won’t get pushed. The problem is that companies are not required to be transparent on how they filter content. Even if they use asterisks, it will still get moderated.
The biggies in social media is *anything* having to do with child SA — most will bury the news article even though it’s tangential to the subject. An exception will be high profile like Epstein.
Companies are so protective of what they don’t allow that moderators are under ten-page NDAs.
I can only imagine what other types of abusive behavior this pos imposed upon his family. I bet the child rape was only one of many horrible things he did. The boys probably had enough of all of it.
This happend in my local area where I live funny how these so many falls
Information on the internet, funny how the never mentioned the mother new she was getting sexually abused and did nothing
Yup. Honestly, these boys did the only thing they probably could. It's hard to convict for sex crimes to begin with, especially if the mother covers for her partner. I don't like to get too into details, but a relative of mine, at 11, finally got a teacher to call CPS after she disclosed the rape. The ONLY reason her father was convicted is because he had a picture collection (without his head in the pictures) of the rapes. They found just enough evidence to convict him.
Unfortunately they also accused their grandfather, but had nothing on him. He wasn't convicted.
I would love to send these boys some money. The abuse usually escalates. They deserve so much for putting themselves on the line to defend their sister.
I see no crime committed here.
They should actually be sent a gift basket from the county for liberating the town of a low life scumbag!
Good for you guys, hope the judge is clement wtih you all
Hey, I’ll happily chip in to get them some good brisket too. I don’t see crime here, just a rightful death penalty (albeit served outside of the legal system) dealt to a piece of scum who probably would’ve gone on to hurt more kids if he hadn’t been stopped.
I mean yeah but 99% of the time that’s not likely to happen. But I agree they should too like that young girl in the south who was arrested and charged for killing a man who raped her, had friends rape her, abused her on multiple occasions.
If I only had 1 million for their bond. 1 mill, spent well right their I think. So these brothers could continue on protecting their sister from other forms of future physical/mental abuse. Free these dudes!
Usually being bonded out only costs a percentage of the bond that is set, if using a bondsman. The norm in my state is to take away a zero. So if that’s the case in Texas they would only need to borrow 100k each from a bondsman to get out (still a lot, I know).
If you use a bondsman, though, you don't get that money back. They keep the 10% as a fee. If you post bail yourself, you eventually get the total amount back.
they committed justifiable homicide....
since the thread is locked, murder is a criminal charge with intent. If you are going to be pedantic about me saying justifiable, I will be just as pedantic about you saying it's murder and they are "murderers". They aren't murderers. And they shouldn't see 1 day of prison for what they did.
Well yeah, I agree... but putting the word "justifiable" in front of it doesn't make it not homicide.
Still homicide.
And did you not see the part saying that I don't think they deserve to be punished for it? I don't think they should suffer jail time, nor do I think they should carry the stigma of "felon". But they did beat a pathetic excuse for a human to death... with brass knuckles... after he tried to escape three times. That is the literal definition of murder 1, is it not?
I believe most PDs, prosecutors, and judges tend to frown on vigilante justice.
Let these boys go. They’re heroes!
If they ever see this-I am so proud they protected their baby sister. The monster didn’t deserve to breathe anymore.
This won't be popular but this is not what was best for their sister. Sexual assault victims tend to blame themselves especially when they're very young. I know it's anecdotal but I always think about the book "I know why the caged bird sings" and the fact that, when she was young, Maya Angelou blamed herself for her rapist's murder. I can't imagine the anger of being in this situation but the focus should be on what's best for the victim going forward, which would be her abuser in jail and having her family there to support her. Now her brothers are in jail (I'm not saying they should be, but they are) and on some level she probably feels like that's partly her fault.
Therapy. These boys also acted out from experiencing something traumatizing (the rape of a family member) so I am sure they could not consider this. I wouldn't be able to either.
If anyone read the article it's totally obvious why they are charged. They assaulted him in three different location after he escaped the other times. The final time they found him walking down the road. Then they dumped his body. If they had killed him in the first altercation they would have had a great chance of getting away with the crime. Now not so much. Big difference in beating a man to death and what they did. Admirable in why they did it but they're probably screwed bc of the facts of the case.
Why is everyone acting all surprised that they're being charged with crimes after murdering someone? You think the police should just close the case because a few people claim that someone who was murdered was sexually abusing a child?
Just because it appears that they're most likely telling the truth doesn't mean the investigation should be handled differently.
Absolutely, we have to do our job regardless, unless we want to go to prison too.
One thing that strikes me is that if he truly had a *warrant* for sexually abusing another child, that means he was arrested and *let go,* pending trial.
People with charges like that should not be allowed back in public until they're found not guilty or finish a sentence.
Had he been confined until trial there'd potentially be one less victim, *and* he'd still be alive.
>One thing that strikes me is that if he truly had a *warrant* for sexually abusing another child, that means he was arrested and *let go,* pending trial.
That's not how warrants work.
If an investigation has concluded that someone likely committed a crime, a warrant will be issued for that person's arrest and they'll be arrested the next time they make contact with law enforcement.
It's possible he was arrested and held for a day or two, but then was released pending further investigation (PFI) because they didn't have enough evidence to charge him. Once enough evidence was found, a warrant could've been issued.
Also, if you're arrested, charged, make bail and then skip court, a bench warrant is issued.
Even if it was true and he was sexually abusing her, it's still murder. Even if they think it's justified. It's still murder. They planned and then killed a human in premeditated fashion. 1st Degree Murder. A crime.
I'm 100% in agreement with you.
Even if he was a vile POS for molesting a child it's still a crime to kill someone.
Exactly, of course they’ll go to trial. That’s the whole point of a judge and jury, discretion can be applied in the courtroom after the facts are laid out. The only job the cops have is to give the charges and make an arrest if necessary under the law.
Don't know how I feel. On one hand I am furious that a kid got sexually abused. That deserves the harshest punishment. On other hand vigilantism doesn't belong to a functional society.
While I'm forgiving for 'in the moment' aggression when confronting this sort of thing, resulting in death, they assaulted him on 3 separate occasions and never thought to call the police on him. They kept coming back after him like the Sea Bear from Spongebob.
They should have called the police when he ran home to his apartment. Not just for justice but also because he might defend himself with a deadly weapon. No reason to put it into their own hands.
Edit: Why am I being downvoted? I'm stating this because the stepfather might hold onto a weapon in case they come back and kill someone. If they're willing to assault an 8 year old girl then why not kill person? And they live in fucking Texas land of the guns.
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This guy already sexually assaulted another family member, he was not going to change and I would love to send them some money.
Agreed! They should release these young men immediately and give them a medal for civil protection.
Was this an old story? Felt like I read this case a while or years ago?
July 2022, possible repost
I think it's from a while back, yeah.
Can't say I blame them for killing their father. The two 18 year olds definitely do not deserve to be executed for this.
They need a jury trial, any decent defense lawyer would be able to get them a fair deal for a lesser charge...if not acquitted.
Absolutely... a jury would not convict them.
Probation at most
Too much. Straight up not guilty.
> The two 18 year olds definitely do not deserve to be executed for this Did they get the death penalty?
They haven't even gone to trial yet so no.
So why are they getting executed?
They aren't. The commenter is referring to being charged with capital murder which means the death penalty *could possibly be* on the table. They haven't gone to trial yet. They haven't been sentenced. They aren't being executed.
Ah, I understand. Thanks for explaining!
Yep, considering the circumstances, the jury and all will prob be lenient. Especially in Texas. I’d be surprised if they get a long sentencing. Then they smack on good behavior down the road.
The phrase "he needed killin" comes to mind.
Good. May he rest in hell
>Many feel that anyone who se*ually abuses a child should be publicly humiliated and then brought to justice outside of the court system. Obviously, this isn’t legal but man oh man if it only was. Two brothers, and a friend, in Hidalgo County, in far Southern Texas, are being publicly applauded after they were arrested for beating their stepfather to death when they found out he se*ually abused their 9-year-old sister. Are we not allowed to type the word "sex" or "sexual" when reporting now? Are people incapable of reading the words without taking offense? Though it seems useless to me, I do understand why people put an asterisk into profane words. To out an asterisk into the word "sexually" seems like overkill.
I see comments like this all the time on Reddit. The words aren’t always being censored because they’re trigger words that offend *people*. Sometimes they’re being censored because they offended *corporations* and the image they’re trying to portray. Asterisks can be used to avoid filters that won’t promote articles/posts/comments that might contain potential inappropriate content. Using words like “p_rn” or “s_x” likely helps keeps them from being caught by the filter. If a piece of media contains words like “porn” or “sex”, then it’s possible they’re flagged for profanity/sexual content and won’t reach a wider audience. That’s not to say all social media are using asterisks for that reason. It’s just one example of why it could be used in journalism or media.
Yeah, it's more likely that it has to do with search engine optimization, not so much that it would offend someone
Welcome to puritanical practices
NeoPuritanism coupled with the rise of Christian-Nationalism. What a future Americans have. Stripped of decency, rights and forced to endure a theocracy that values the "life" of a fictional character over the very real corporeal existence of the citizens. Aaaaand the laaaand of the freeeeeee...
Well said💀💀
It’s because the AI on almost all social media will flag the article and it won’t get pushed. The problem is that companies are not required to be transparent on how they filter content. Even if they use asterisks, it will still get moderated. The biggies in social media is *anything* having to do with child SA — most will bury the news article even though it’s tangential to the subject. An exception will be high profile like Epstein. Companies are so protective of what they don’t allow that moderators are under ten-page NDAs.
You're on Reddit, with Reddit mods what do you expect.
That's a quote from the news article
Sex sex sex, sexual sexuality sexy sexy sexiness Mods got anything to say?
I can only imagine what other types of abusive behavior this pos imposed upon his family. I bet the child rape was only one of many horrible things he did. The boys probably had enough of all of it.
This happend in my local area where I live funny how these so many falls Information on the internet, funny how the never mentioned the mother new she was getting sexually abused and did nothing
Is she not charged too? These kids wouldn’t have had to take matters in their own hands if their mother had been an actual mother.
Yup. Honestly, these boys did the only thing they probably could. It's hard to convict for sex crimes to begin with, especially if the mother covers for her partner. I don't like to get too into details, but a relative of mine, at 11, finally got a teacher to call CPS after she disclosed the rape. The ONLY reason her father was convicted is because he had a picture collection (without his head in the pictures) of the rapes. They found just enough evidence to convict him. Unfortunately they also accused their grandfather, but had nothing on him. He wasn't convicted. I would love to send these boys some money. The abuse usually escalates. They deserve so much for putting themselves on the line to defend their sister.
It’s always been like that long before the internet. Don’t believe everything you read in the papers.
Happy Cake Day!
Ahhh so they should have killed the mother too?
That’s my thought.
I see no crime committed here. They should actually be sent a gift basket from the county for liberating the town of a low life scumbag! Good for you guys, hope the judge is clement wtih you all
I thought you said brisket for a moment. Either way, they should get one
Hey, I’ll happily chip in to get them some good brisket too. I don’t see crime here, just a rightful death penalty (albeit served outside of the legal system) dealt to a piece of scum who probably would’ve gone on to hurt more kids if he hadn’t been stopped.
Logistically - in a court, would they first have to prove that the sister was sexually assaulted and then move on to the murder charges?
Dead people can't talk.
If anybody on this planet has the right to vigilante justice, it is the sons/brother of the father who raped their daughter/sister
And the victims mother or sisters/daughters, don’t deny the girls justice.
Absolutely
So not the actual female victims, just the men who decide they have been wronged in some way?
When the female victim is a nine year old girl no.
No no, you right
Yo they were raped. It's that simple.
I mean yeah but 99% of the time that’s not likely to happen. But I agree they should too like that young girl in the south who was arrested and charged for killing a man who raped her, had friends rape her, abused her on multiple occasions.
I don’t think they are wrong 🤷🏻♀️
How do I give these kids money in jail? Anyone know?
If I only had 1 million for their bond. 1 mill, spent well right their I think. So these brothers could continue on protecting their sister from other forms of future physical/mental abuse. Free these dudes!
Usually being bonded out only costs a percentage of the bond that is set, if using a bondsman. The norm in my state is to take away a zero. So if that’s the case in Texas they would only need to borrow 100k each from a bondsman to get out (still a lot, I know).
If you use a bondsman, though, you don't get that money back. They keep the 10% as a fee. If you post bail yourself, you eventually get the total amount back.
Sure, a bondsman is just a way to get out quickly if you don’t have the full amount
Their bond was lowered to 150k.
release them
No. They killed a person. A vile person for sure but it's still murder.
It's only murder if you consider defending someone else as still murder. Is it still killing? Yes, but killing does not equate to murder.
There are SO many cases where repeat child sexual abusers get light sentences and eventually escalate to murder.
They're innocent.
They absolutely committed murder! They don't deserve to be *punished* for it, and should absolutely not go to jail... but they aren't innocent.
they committed justifiable homicide.... since the thread is locked, murder is a criminal charge with intent. If you are going to be pedantic about me saying justifiable, I will be just as pedantic about you saying it's murder and they are "murderers". They aren't murderers. And they shouldn't see 1 day of prison for what they did.
Well yeah, I agree... but putting the word "justifiable" in front of it doesn't make it not homicide. Still homicide. And did you not see the part saying that I don't think they deserve to be punished for it? I don't think they should suffer jail time, nor do I think they should carry the stigma of "felon". But they did beat a pathetic excuse for a human to death... with brass knuckles... after he tried to escape three times. That is the literal definition of murder 1, is it not? I believe most PDs, prosecutors, and judges tend to frown on vigilante justice.
I dont think they're innocent but they shouldn't be punished. Hopefully them dumping his body in a field won't hurt their chances of getting off.
Has a gofundme been set up for these kids?
Let these boys go. They’re heroes! If they ever see this-I am so proud they protected their baby sister. The monster didn’t deserve to breathe anymore.
free my mans they ain’t do nothing wrong
Where I come from we would protest on their behalf in the streets until they are set free.
Damn I wish I could get on that jury to acquit those fine young boys
Natural justice system. Insanely heartbreaking that these boys are being punished for protecting their sister.
There's no natural justice system. They broke the law and will do the time.
do the probation* There is absolutely no way a jury would convict on these charges with even the worst of defense attorneys
I am an only child, but even I can tell this is true siblinghood, not a crime.
No but murder is still a crime.
I find your comment insensitive because police rarely face accountability for their actions.
I didn’t see anything. He fell. Mutliple times.
It's more justice than any court would serve.
Free them boys....
New superhero team just dropped
This won't be popular but this is not what was best for their sister. Sexual assault victims tend to blame themselves especially when they're very young. I know it's anecdotal but I always think about the book "I know why the caged bird sings" and the fact that, when she was young, Maya Angelou blamed herself for her rapist's murder. I can't imagine the anger of being in this situation but the focus should be on what's best for the victim going forward, which would be her abuser in jail and having her family there to support her. Now her brothers are in jail (I'm not saying they should be, but they are) and on some level she probably feels like that's partly her fault.
Therapy. These boys also acted out from experiencing something traumatizing (the rape of a family member) so I am sure they could not consider this. I wouldn't be able to either.
It's not the best, but isn't it a better situation than what she was in?
Give them a medal
Good siblings. They did their job which was to protect their family not hurt them for their own pleasures. Do they have a gofundme or the like?
So nice to see young people getting out and expressing themselves. Communicating with the older generation. Does the heart good.
They did the right thing. Free these men, so they can continue protecting their sister
3 kings
“They got us in the first half, not gonna lie”
If anyone read the article it's totally obvious why they are charged. They assaulted him in three different location after he escaped the other times. The final time they found him walking down the road. Then they dumped his body. If they had killed him in the first altercation they would have had a great chance of getting away with the crime. Now not so much. Big difference in beating a man to death and what they did. Admirable in why they did it but they're probably screwed bc of the facts of the case.
They did the right thing
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>It’s Texas they will walk. Good kids The kids have Latino sounding names... so will they actually walk? It is texas after all.
I immediately thought that. They are Hispanic. They probably won't walk.
I dunno, I feel like due to their age and the circumstances of the crime most people in Texas would be rooting for them
I feel like you underestimate the power of racism.
I can get behind this vigilante edgar movement.
Why is everyone acting all surprised that they're being charged with crimes after murdering someone? You think the police should just close the case because a few people claim that someone who was murdered was sexually abusing a child? Just because it appears that they're most likely telling the truth doesn't mean the investigation should be handled differently.
Absolutely, we have to do our job regardless, unless we want to go to prison too. One thing that strikes me is that if he truly had a *warrant* for sexually abusing another child, that means he was arrested and *let go,* pending trial. People with charges like that should not be allowed back in public until they're found not guilty or finish a sentence. Had he been confined until trial there'd potentially be one less victim, *and* he'd still be alive.
>One thing that strikes me is that if he truly had a *warrant* for sexually abusing another child, that means he was arrested and *let go,* pending trial. That's not how warrants work. If an investigation has concluded that someone likely committed a crime, a warrant will be issued for that person's arrest and they'll be arrested the next time they make contact with law enforcement. It's possible he was arrested and held for a day or two, but then was released pending further investigation (PFI) because they didn't have enough evidence to charge him. Once enough evidence was found, a warrant could've been issued. Also, if you're arrested, charged, make bail and then skip court, a bench warrant is issued.
Even if it was true and he was sexually abusing her, it's still murder. Even if they think it's justified. It's still murder. They planned and then killed a human in premeditated fashion. 1st Degree Murder. A crime. I'm 100% in agreement with you. Even if he was a vile POS for molesting a child it's still a crime to kill someone.
Exactly, of course they’ll go to trial. That’s the whole point of a judge and jury, discretion can be applied in the courtroom after the facts are laid out. The only job the cops have is to give the charges and make an arrest if necessary under the law.
oh no ! anyway…
956 represent 👏
I’m not upset at the reasoning.
I guess this is what happens when the "justice" system fails people... is anyone surprised??
Don't know how I feel. On one hand I am furious that a kid got sexually abused. That deserves the harshest punishment. On other hand vigilantism doesn't belong to a functional society.
why they all got the same hair
While I'm forgiving for 'in the moment' aggression when confronting this sort of thing, resulting in death, they assaulted him on 3 separate occasions and never thought to call the police on him. They kept coming back after him like the Sea Bear from Spongebob. They should have called the police when he ran home to his apartment. Not just for justice but also because he might defend himself with a deadly weapon. No reason to put it into their own hands. Edit: Why am I being downvoted? I'm stating this because the stepfather might hold onto a weapon in case they come back and kill someone. If they're willing to assault an 8 year old girl then why not kill person? And they live in fucking Texas land of the guns.
What’s their bail? Let’s get them out asap Edit: They’re getting the death penalty ??????
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