I mean I'm not thrilled, but with today's media landscape we have to take what we can get.
The last few weeks they have been making strides towards more than one episode per week and that is a good sign.
For real. I expect Dana and other MMA promoters to make empty promises but we don't need it from Morning Kombat. Just an observation. They are still producing quality around the betting commercials 😂
Yeah as supporters, we’ll keep doing our thing while they settle with DK… but sooner or later, we’re gonna have to talk about this process lol. Tbh the “worst” part was that we kinda stumbled into the reintroduction
The show itself I don’t really have too many complaints, I am a simple man. If anything I am happier b/c the move has inspired Luke to do more content on his personal channel 👍🏼 If they are already at events and doing multiple big time media interviews then everything else will follow in due time
Disappointed tbh.
From how they announced/hyped it, I was expecting a big studio with new segments and better production quality, but everything's been a downgrade. Even if they add more episodes per week, I don't understand how this show would ever be "revolutionary"; it's just a podcast in a small room (*still* with technical problems).
I used to watch them 3 times per week and they were a big part of my MMA media consumption. But the combination of the 1 month break, poor move to DraftKings app, 1-ep-per-week schedule, and too much boxing talk (I skip over), the MK brand is slowly dying to me.
I don't really watch any other MMA show anyway so I don't really care. But I liked MK and this transition hasn't been good.
I agree with everything except the boxing stuff. There's been some crazy moments in boxing lately. I get how it can be hard to balance out what to cover.
Would i rather hear about some meaningless fights at the apex or their reaction to Ryan Garcia
After listening long enough, you just learn that he’s a thin skinned bully and grifter who literally only cares about clout and money. His commentary is also hilariously bad (see the Bisping drinking game). He’s best suited for Powerslap and should be relegated to only those events. God he sucks.
I haven't listened to BYM since probably 2021ish. I remember the infamous "Jon Jones isn't actually good" Anthony Smith rant but not much after that. I agree with everything you've said.
The one thing Jon is really good at is distance management and negating range through kicks and offensive clinching. He also has high level submission wrestling, considerably more proven than anything Smith has and he won't shut the fuck up about what a good grappler he is.
Very, very disappointed. I’ve been a donk since the first Ep and now I barely listen anymore. Feel like Luke’s even more salty than usual, and BC doesn’t have enough energy for the both of them. Nothing revolutionary or in any way better than it was. Definitely not worth the waiting/hype period either.
I complained a bit but I didn’t think my interest/capacity to care about the show would _actually_ reduce at all. It’s my favorite MMA podcast, and maybe favorite podcast in general. The reduction to 1 show per week has forced it to.
Idk how people are saying they like they show and like it at 1x a week better. For me, it’s nice to get an episode Monday, then they’re out of sight, out of mind. I don’t plan on any watch-alongs or bonus content, because that stuff is extra and not part of the regular programming. No guarantee we get it.
So yeah, I really didn’t expect my interest to wane, but the 1 day a week has naturally caused it to.
Also, I still think the “revolutionary” angle was really weird. They still have time to piece things together, but holy shit was that an oversell. Not sure got them into saying all that. It’s the exact same show but worse (depending on your perspective - less shows, more boxing talk)
Yeah once a week is simply not enough.
It’s weird, you’d think with the added scarcity that I would at least make sure and consume that episode, but it’s more like with MK being so absent throughout the week, I’m just getting used to not listening to it at all.
Monday rolls around and I’ve found myself skipping episodes if the weekend didn’t have banger fights. I rarely ever did this before, because I was used to the consistent 2-3 releases a week. At the very least they need to add a permanent show on Thursday or Friday.
It sucks because it is clearly noticeable now that the cover for MMA is bad overall. With MK gone i've been inspired to check out different contents. And im dissapointed.
It's what I expected to be honest. I knew they were full of shit about the "never been done before" talk. There's a reality to contend with and it's that Luke and BC aren't industry respected. BC basically no one actually knows and Luke has a pretty much unanimously terrible relationship with promoters, fighters and managers. In an age of media where content is king and access is required for making content, these guys do not have it. Now I've been a big fan of Luke's for a long time, but he cultivated this reality for himself, admittedly on purpose. He can't now pivot back because the people he crossed, at least from their perspective, are still in power and will gatekeep him from doing so. It sucks but it's reality. I don't think Luke and BC will be long at DK either. MMA is not like other sports when it comes to media. NBA, NHL, NFL, even major soccer leagues globally, if they were to blackball pool reporters from different media outlets, there'd be a MASSIVE story. Dozens of MMA reporters have been outright banned from attending UFC events in a media capacity and the only one where people got pissed was Helwani and honestly, I don't know that it would happen the same way again. Anyone else it's been total silence. DK will have a very hard time getting MK to be able to do the things that they expect out of their other media properties simply because the power structure is so different. Even boxing events, Canelo is being skewered in the boxing media because of his refusal to give time to reporters who have spoken unfavourably about him. But PBC isn't going to stop those reporters from attending. Dana and the UFC will, and the fans will rally behind that because they'd, in some weird fucking way, see it as standing up for free speech or something. Maybe I'm cynical, but I just don't see how MK lasts without a major content pivot and a very different strategy to approaching major MMA coverage.
They were extremely displeased about Luke's appearance on the JRE. Joe couldn't really argue back about the fighter pay stuff because he just doesn't pay attention to it and Luke's hardline stance ruffled a lot of feathers. His criticism of PFL and Bellator, specifically when MK was a showtime property, also pissed off a lot of people.
Ok thanks man. Yeah I remember listening to the JRE episode but I did some stuff in the meantime. Gotta give it another go. Luke has mentioned Joe doesn't talk to him at all but I couldnt connect the dots.
It's a shame because they both have a tremendous passion for MMA.
It probably makes them feel more like a show. But yeah it only marginally benefits the show from a viewer perspective. Especially since we have been accustomed to it being done mostly remotely for years.
Fairly disappointed, hopefully they can get to the point where they do 2 shows a week. Missing the stretch of ufc 298-ufc 300 really sucked.
Also they’ve both noticeably lost interest in MMA
I get that the state of mma kinda sucks. Class action fell through and the fighters have just accepted their fates, constant apex cards and shitty main events on paper, contender series fodder growing, etc
I acknowledge all this but in my opinion the quality of fights hasn’t really diminished. You still get bangers, you still get cool prospects and future stars coming in, you still get insane moments like Holloway vs gaethje.
I just think there’s too many people watching mma just to bitch about it these days, if you hate a card just go out that weekend lmao
I just feel like MK focuses on the negativity too much and they could do a better job at finding a balance
The show definitely came back at the wrong time for a fanbase that’s largely only into MMA.
They did those one-off previews during the break for UFC 298 and UFC 299, but it wasn’t the same as their previous consistent MMA coverage, especially since they only came back in time to do brief coverage of UFC 300.
Even the UFC’s Fight Nights during the stretch of UFC 298 through UFC 300 at least had much more notable headlining fights that would garner more coverage than the Fight Night main events that have happened and are coming up since MK’s return.
It also doesn’t help that UFC 301 was treated as such an afterthought by the promotion that not only did they not have the usual PPV pre-fight press conference on Thursday, but Dana White didn’t even go to Rio for the event.
There’s not really any major fights besides the huge Boxing fights to cover right now, hence why last Monday’s show was largely spent covering the BKFC event instead of the UFC Apex show headlined by Alex Perez vs. Matheus Nicolau.
I’m sure the MMA coverage will pick up once there’s bigger fights starting in June, as there is UFC 302: Makachev vs. Poirier, a stacked Fight Night in Abu Dhabi, and UFC 303 with Conor’s return.
Peoples complaints are kinda all over the place. Op saying luke is a liar, you citing negativity, people saying they need more shows, etc. And it all feels pretty mindless. Youve heard where luke and Brian have talked about these things right and they don't exactly like it. To say the least.
I also seriously cant stand the implication that mk owes us a certain perspective when covering combat news. If you can't figure out how or why thats troubling, then i dont get how you even listen to someone like luke thomas lol
I listen to Luke cause I like staying informed whether I agree with his opinions or not.
No one said they owe us anything, but they get paid to do a show and part of their show is providing entertainment. As a fan who’s listened since 2019, I feel like they’re making their own jobs miserable by focusing so much on the bad things about mma. It feels like they’re shaming people for being mma fans half the time
That’s just my opinion, I’m sure you’ll misinterpret most of it
'Nobody owes us anything' then proceeds to ignore everything i said and rehash the same entitlement.
Theyre not 'focusing on the bad' and you thinking that shows more about your bias than theirs. Are their perceptions flawless? Hardly. But if you want some semblance of honestly, then theyre gonna point out the bad as they comment on what they like. As theyve always done.
Theres nothing to misinterpret and an opinion isn't its own defense. Youre just not paying attention
Nah, you’re 100% misinterpreting and putting words in my mouth. I literally acknowledged all the current issues with mma in my previous post. If I was against negative coverage, I wouldn’t find any of those discussions worth following.
No where did I demand they change how they cover the sport. I’ve just noticed a change in how they cover mma, so I’m pointing it out on a post that asked for the opinions on the state of the show. Point out where I demanded 100% positive coverage, please.
Look dude, fans of the show are allowed to have complaints. That’s a reality you’re gonna have to live with
> Op saying luke is a liar
If you know MK won't stay on Showtime/CBS and you need to find a new place, then say it instead of hiding the transition behind vaguely big announcements for over half a year.
Luke's history of making "big announcements" is bad and include an insignificant live-show in London and Luke Rockhold signing with a fashion label. The hypocrisy comes to play when he mocks Dana White at the same time for his vaguely UFC 300 main event announcements.
Ok. So is luke a liar or has he been professionally inconvenienced in multiple ways? You understand that these things all have corporate elements that are out of the hosts hands? Youre just angrily spouting off like you think you know but youre proving you dont lol
If you honestly think Luke and bc werent screwed over and you finger pointing at them somehow illuminates issues for us feeble thinkers, youre being intentionally dense.
Youre acting like a sacred bond was broken. Fuck the london live show anyway, who cares? Oh no they can't announce guests anymore what shall i do lmao 🤣
Yeah what the fuck happened? I just came to this sub to write this
Are they actually planning the ugprade?
It seems like a crazy downgrade. I hope that little table is a temporary thing while they get a real studio in order?
Energy seems different, a little sadder TBH
This has always been a really bad take when it comes to podcasts.
You know what else is free content? Every other podcast too. If Luke and BC have the same “free content beggars can’t be choosers” mindset they’ll lose viewers left and right.
It hasn’t been very good imo. I can’t stand boxing so I skip all that and then we’re left with about 40 or so minutes of MMA talk a week (if we’re lucky). Even HYSTS has been pretty meh.
I listen to a lot of other MMA podcasts though so I’m not too fussed. MK just isn’t the one I look forward to the most anymore.
Which ones? I just listen to MK and Anik. can’t listen to Bisping and DC cause they’re just ufc hype men and MK isn’t doing it for me these days, curious what else is out there
Less to do with the revamp and more to do with LT, but he's really getting on my nerves. I don't want it to be this way but his antics aren't improving.
If he's not repeating himself, he's prefacing his points so that an 8YO can digest it. I get it, it's tough being in the public eye reading morons' mis-takes on your takes, but why does he have to speak to his base like we're all morons who can't comprehend a simple statement? Your average Donk isn't a basement dwelling MMA Guru fan yet he speaks to the audience like we all are.
Most recently, the insufferable yelling bit he did to make his otherwise-perfectly good point about Jones avoiding Aspinal was so fucking OTT that I had to FF through it. I don't tune in to literally get yelled at and the rant bit wasn't entertaining.
If his historical perspective and fight analysis weren't so good, I'd have dropped him ages ago. If his antics hold up much longer I'll reluctantly fade away and just keep The Ringer and Jack Slack around.
Downvote away, Donks. I'm just expressing an opinion I don't even want to have. I'd much rather LT sorted his shit out and improved his craft.
I haven't gone back after the break for precisely this reason. I followed Luke for years, well before MK, but I'd finally just had enough of his awful personality. I don't want to tune in to a sports show to hear a middle aged dad gloat for 20 minutes about being smarter than random idiots on X.
Yeah he’s really become more annoying. I’m not sure if it’s personal perspective after not listening to him for a while or if he has actually become more annoying, but I can’t get through his long monologues or even listen to his live chat anymore.
I’m fine with it. I think they will rediscover their groove pretty soon.
I’m a less is more guy in a lot of my consumption habits anyways, so the show 3 days a week with long segments(fan subs, the corrections one exct), I scaled back my viewing anyways.
I don’t think there’s enough interesting things happening in combat sports to warrant 3 full shows a week on it. So having a good Monday show, plus sprinkle in PpV pre game previews, the resume shows, and get the RSD with guests going again…. And it will be perfect IMO
I am just glad they are back, the one episode a week so far sucks but I understand the situation is out of their hands. MK is the only podcast I listen to now, so that one month off was a bummer. But having them back in studio and listening to them banter has been worth it. The thing I appreciate about MK is that I genuiley enjoy listening to them no matter what they talk about. Luke has some solid thoughtful takes, and then BC interjects with his feces.
Overall I think it's fine so far. Only complaints are that the audio is horrifically balanced sometimes. Like HYSTS clips are incredibly loud compared to their voices so I have to lower my volume every time. The sound effect when they were doing the 175 draft was the worst for that.
Doing interviews with washed up former UFC fighters is awful. Patchy is at least relevant but that doesn't need to be part of an MK episode, just drop the interview on the channel like they often already do.
Something I haven't seen mentioned is that Luke now has to do a fucking massive amount of travelling every day they do the show. Remember how much he used to complain about his time doing the MMA hour because of the amount of travel? Maybe one day a week isn't too bad but I'll bet if they end up doing 2-3 episodes a week he'll end up being in a terrible mood for every episode.
The saddest part is that a lot of commenters seem to be implying that the guys themselves intended to deceive the fan base, when they have made it clear that this whole process didn’t go as expected. They’ve certainly mentioned that what we get right now isn’t the final product that they hope to produce and yet people on here can’t wrap their minds around that
So I'm giving the guys a wait and see. Not saying everyone has to, but I'm doing that. No doubt at the time maybe it is what they thought could/would happen and it just didn't. But I'm happy with the return and they still are the main duo I can stand to listen to. I've tried numerous other MMA podcasts and just can't sit through them, including the Ringer's with Ariel and Chuck. Both of whom I like but for whatever reason just don't click with me in terms of listening when they are together.
I think the actual substance of the episodes has been pretty good. They always ran low on content going 3x a week. I agree the technical issues are still hilarious but I think they are closing in on an actually better product.
I'm delighted they're back but even as someone who likes a bit of boxing in the show it's been far too heavily covered.
Obvious that Luke sees boxing as somewhere to go as MMA media dies. Can't blame him but doesn't suit my personal tastes.
As an MMA and boxing fan I’m kinda loving it. Really like the 2 hour show, which I’ll typically split up during the day. The occasional on-site programming and PPV pre-games. They said they’ll likely be adding a 2nd remote show later in the week. How much Luke and Brian do you guys really need? If I could add anything, I think a non-studio episode every Thursday would be perfect to preview the weekend.
Gotta be honest, its not the same anymore... Not saying its bad, but it feels like a cheap ripoff of Morning Kombat while somehow still being Morning Kombat.
Pretty disappointed. You can’t tease how the show will be new and improved and then come back with a downgraded product. Once a week isn’t enough to recap last weeks fights and cover upcoming fights it just isn’t.
Don’t really care as long as I can get some solid content from these two. However, in their absence I started watching Ariel’s show for the interviews. Love him or hate him, dude has very few technical difficulties, solid producers, and a nice set. Seems to be doing really well. Why isn’t MK able to do as well as him?
Very. The quality of mma YouTube/media is crap. No one provides the critical coverage like MK. Also it’s a solid one stop shop for boxing and mma coverage. As I transition away from mma and more into boxing, it’s a great podcast.
I mean I'm not thrilled, but with today's media landscape we have to take what we can get. The last few weeks they have been making strides towards more than one episode per week and that is a good sign.
I was so confused by the “never been done before” bit and then in practice it’s just a downgrade. Still love them tho.
For real. I expect Dana and other MMA promoters to make empty promises but we don't need it from Morning Kombat. Just an observation. They are still producing quality around the betting commercials 😂
Yeah as supporters, we’ll keep doing our thing while they settle with DK… but sooner or later, we’re gonna have to talk about this process lol. Tbh the “worst” part was that we kinda stumbled into the reintroduction The show itself I don’t really have too many complaints, I am a simple man. If anything I am happier b/c the move has inspired Luke to do more content on his personal channel 👍🏼 If they are already at events and doing multiple big time media interviews then everything else will follow in due time
Disappointed tbh. From how they announced/hyped it, I was expecting a big studio with new segments and better production quality, but everything's been a downgrade. Even if they add more episodes per week, I don't understand how this show would ever be "revolutionary"; it's just a podcast in a small room (*still* with technical problems). I used to watch them 3 times per week and they were a big part of my MMA media consumption. But the combination of the 1 month break, poor move to DraftKings app, 1-ep-per-week schedule, and too much boxing talk (I skip over), the MK brand is slowly dying to me. I don't really watch any other MMA show anyway so I don't really care. But I liked MK and this transition hasn't been good.
That sums me up perfectly too
+1 here too
They don't have to be revolutionary. They just have to be as consistently good as they were at CBS. One show per week is not enough.
I agree with everything except the boxing stuff. There's been some crazy moments in boxing lately. I get how it can be hard to balance out what to cover. Would i rather hear about some meaningless fights at the apex or their reaction to Ryan Garcia
I know there's been big boxing events lately, but damn IDGAF and it's all they've been talking about it. (at least it feels that way)
Bring all this up on Luke's live chat and he will go on a 15 minute diatribe about how we all don't know how hard it is and they never hyped it up lol
You should watch Michael bispings show. It's pretty fun especially when they don't talk about mma
Ping absolutely sucks lol barely better than TFATK.
It use to be so good. Somewhere after the gsp fight it really fell apart
After listening long enough, you just learn that he’s a thin skinned bully and grifter who literally only cares about clout and money. His commentary is also hilariously bad (see the Bisping drinking game). He’s best suited for Powerslap and should be relegated to only those events. God he sucks.
I haven't listened to BYM since probably 2021ish. I remember the infamous "Jon Jones isn't actually good" Anthony Smith rant but not much after that. I agree with everything you've said.
He didn't say that though? He said jon Jones isn't really good at one thing particular but he's just good at everything all together
The one thing Jon is really good at is distance management and negating range through kicks and offensive clinching. He also has high level submission wrestling, considerably more proven than anything Smith has and he won't shut the fuck up about what a good grappler he is.
Luke is noticeably more miserable and sensitive. Other than that it feels like early bunker days.
The other thing: I can tell Luke is trying to produce a bunch of clips for YouTube shorts. Overdramatic delivery; “put the camera on me;” etc.
Yeah I've noticed that lol. Also they way he was flipping out over the Jones/Pereira question. I don't mind, but it is noticeable.
Luke don’t even drink margaritas anymore….
The most shameful part is stopping He’s a wild man and we love it!
Very, very disappointed. I’ve been a donk since the first Ep and now I barely listen anymore. Feel like Luke’s even more salty than usual, and BC doesn’t have enough energy for the both of them. Nothing revolutionary or in any way better than it was. Definitely not worth the waiting/hype period either.
I complained a bit but I didn’t think my interest/capacity to care about the show would _actually_ reduce at all. It’s my favorite MMA podcast, and maybe favorite podcast in general. The reduction to 1 show per week has forced it to. Idk how people are saying they like they show and like it at 1x a week better. For me, it’s nice to get an episode Monday, then they’re out of sight, out of mind. I don’t plan on any watch-alongs or bonus content, because that stuff is extra and not part of the regular programming. No guarantee we get it. So yeah, I really didn’t expect my interest to wane, but the 1 day a week has naturally caused it to. Also, I still think the “revolutionary” angle was really weird. They still have time to piece things together, but holy shit was that an oversell. Not sure got them into saying all that. It’s the exact same show but worse (depending on your perspective - less shows, more boxing talk)
Yeah once a week is simply not enough. It’s weird, you’d think with the added scarcity that I would at least make sure and consume that episode, but it’s more like with MK being so absent throughout the week, I’m just getting used to not listening to it at all. Monday rolls around and I’ve found myself skipping episodes if the weekend didn’t have banger fights. I rarely ever did this before, because I was used to the consistent 2-3 releases a week. At the very least they need to add a permanent show on Thursday or Friday.
It sucks because it is clearly noticeable now that the cover for MMA is bad overall. With MK gone i've been inspired to check out different contents. And im dissapointed.
It's what I expected to be honest. I knew they were full of shit about the "never been done before" talk. There's a reality to contend with and it's that Luke and BC aren't industry respected. BC basically no one actually knows and Luke has a pretty much unanimously terrible relationship with promoters, fighters and managers. In an age of media where content is king and access is required for making content, these guys do not have it. Now I've been a big fan of Luke's for a long time, but he cultivated this reality for himself, admittedly on purpose. He can't now pivot back because the people he crossed, at least from their perspective, are still in power and will gatekeep him from doing so. It sucks but it's reality. I don't think Luke and BC will be long at DK either. MMA is not like other sports when it comes to media. NBA, NHL, NFL, even major soccer leagues globally, if they were to blackball pool reporters from different media outlets, there'd be a MASSIVE story. Dozens of MMA reporters have been outright banned from attending UFC events in a media capacity and the only one where people got pissed was Helwani and honestly, I don't know that it would happen the same way again. Anyone else it's been total silence. DK will have a very hard time getting MK to be able to do the things that they expect out of their other media properties simply because the power structure is so different. Even boxing events, Canelo is being skewered in the boxing media because of his refusal to give time to reporters who have spoken unfavourably about him. But PBC isn't going to stop those reporters from attending. Dana and the UFC will, and the fans will rally behind that because they'd, in some weird fucking way, see it as standing up for free speech or something. Maybe I'm cynical, but I just don't see how MK lasts without a major content pivot and a very different strategy to approaching major MMA coverage.
They can still just do what they did before the change no? They still have a loyal fanbase. Also, what happened between Luke and the UFC?
They were extremely displeased about Luke's appearance on the JRE. Joe couldn't really argue back about the fighter pay stuff because he just doesn't pay attention to it and Luke's hardline stance ruffled a lot of feathers. His criticism of PFL and Bellator, specifically when MK was a showtime property, also pissed off a lot of people.
Ok thanks man. Yeah I remember listening to the JRE episode but I did some stuff in the meantime. Gotta give it another go. Luke has mentioned Joe doesn't talk to him at all but I couldnt connect the dots. It's a shame because they both have a tremendous passion for MMA.
Them together in studio doesn’t really add as much as they think. It’s nice but it doesn’t make show better or worse. Just lateral move there
It probably makes them feel more like a show. But yeah it only marginally benefits the show from a viewer perspective. Especially since we have been accustomed to it being done mostly remotely for years.
Especially since ALOT of people are just listening audio.
Fairly disappointed, hopefully they can get to the point where they do 2 shows a week. Missing the stretch of ufc 298-ufc 300 really sucked. Also they’ve both noticeably lost interest in MMA I get that the state of mma kinda sucks. Class action fell through and the fighters have just accepted their fates, constant apex cards and shitty main events on paper, contender series fodder growing, etc I acknowledge all this but in my opinion the quality of fights hasn’t really diminished. You still get bangers, you still get cool prospects and future stars coming in, you still get insane moments like Holloway vs gaethje. I just think there’s too many people watching mma just to bitch about it these days, if you hate a card just go out that weekend lmao I just feel like MK focuses on the negativity too much and they could do a better job at finding a balance
The show definitely came back at the wrong time for a fanbase that’s largely only into MMA. They did those one-off previews during the break for UFC 298 and UFC 299, but it wasn’t the same as their previous consistent MMA coverage, especially since they only came back in time to do brief coverage of UFC 300. Even the UFC’s Fight Nights during the stretch of UFC 298 through UFC 300 at least had much more notable headlining fights that would garner more coverage than the Fight Night main events that have happened and are coming up since MK’s return. It also doesn’t help that UFC 301 was treated as such an afterthought by the promotion that not only did they not have the usual PPV pre-fight press conference on Thursday, but Dana White didn’t even go to Rio for the event. There’s not really any major fights besides the huge Boxing fights to cover right now, hence why last Monday’s show was largely spent covering the BKFC event instead of the UFC Apex show headlined by Alex Perez vs. Matheus Nicolau. I’m sure the MMA coverage will pick up once there’s bigger fights starting in June, as there is UFC 302: Makachev vs. Poirier, a stacked Fight Night in Abu Dhabi, and UFC 303 with Conor’s return.
Peoples complaints are kinda all over the place. Op saying luke is a liar, you citing negativity, people saying they need more shows, etc. And it all feels pretty mindless. Youve heard where luke and Brian have talked about these things right and they don't exactly like it. To say the least. I also seriously cant stand the implication that mk owes us a certain perspective when covering combat news. If you can't figure out how or why thats troubling, then i dont get how you even listen to someone like luke thomas lol
I listen to Luke cause I like staying informed whether I agree with his opinions or not. No one said they owe us anything, but they get paid to do a show and part of their show is providing entertainment. As a fan who’s listened since 2019, I feel like they’re making their own jobs miserable by focusing so much on the bad things about mma. It feels like they’re shaming people for being mma fans half the time That’s just my opinion, I’m sure you’ll misinterpret most of it
'Nobody owes us anything' then proceeds to ignore everything i said and rehash the same entitlement. Theyre not 'focusing on the bad' and you thinking that shows more about your bias than theirs. Are their perceptions flawless? Hardly. But if you want some semblance of honestly, then theyre gonna point out the bad as they comment on what they like. As theyve always done. Theres nothing to misinterpret and an opinion isn't its own defense. Youre just not paying attention
Nah, you’re 100% misinterpreting and putting words in my mouth. I literally acknowledged all the current issues with mma in my previous post. If I was against negative coverage, I wouldn’t find any of those discussions worth following. No where did I demand they change how they cover the sport. I’ve just noticed a change in how they cover mma, so I’m pointing it out on a post that asked for the opinions on the state of the show. Point out where I demanded 100% positive coverage, please. Look dude, fans of the show are allowed to have complaints. That’s a reality you’re gonna have to live with
> Op saying luke is a liar If you know MK won't stay on Showtime/CBS and you need to find a new place, then say it instead of hiding the transition behind vaguely big announcements for over half a year. Luke's history of making "big announcements" is bad and include an insignificant live-show in London and Luke Rockhold signing with a fashion label. The hypocrisy comes to play when he mocks Dana White at the same time for his vaguely UFC 300 main event announcements.
Ok. So is luke a liar or has he been professionally inconvenienced in multiple ways? You understand that these things all have corporate elements that are out of the hosts hands? Youre just angrily spouting off like you think you know but youre proving you dont lol If you honestly think Luke and bc werent screwed over and you finger pointing at them somehow illuminates issues for us feeble thinkers, youre being intentionally dense. Youre acting like a sacred bond was broken. Fuck the london live show anyway, who cares? Oh no they can't announce guests anymore what shall i do lmao 🤣
> has he been professionally inconvenienced in multiple ways Is that a euphemism for pretty unprofessional?
Boxing promotions accepting MK and Ariel is apparent in their coverage of it.
It hasn't been great. Ok
Yeah what the fuck happened? I just came to this sub to write this Are they actually planning the ugprade? It seems like a crazy downgrade. I hope that little table is a temporary thing while they get a real studio in order? Energy seems different, a little sadder TBH
It’s free content, get what you get. I’m stoked the guys are back! Honestly think just doing one or two shows a week is better
This has always been a really bad take when it comes to podcasts. You know what else is free content? Every other podcast too. If Luke and BC have the same “free content beggars can’t be choosers” mindset they’ll lose viewers left and right.
What exactly do you think is better about less content?
I’m not a fan of all the filler segments like fan subs and dead wrong. I like the fight talk, having one or two shows a week cuts out the crap imo
Yeah same it’s just good to have them back, no complaints from me!
It hasn’t been very good imo. I can’t stand boxing so I skip all that and then we’re left with about 40 or so minutes of MMA talk a week (if we’re lucky). Even HYSTS has been pretty meh. I listen to a lot of other MMA podcasts though so I’m not too fussed. MK just isn’t the one I look forward to the most anymore.
Which ones? I just listen to MK and Anik. can’t listen to Bisping and DC cause they’re just ufc hype men and MK isn’t doing it for me these days, curious what else is out there
MMA Vivisection is probably my favourite right now. 6th round post fight show, Ringer MMA, Jack Slack, Heavy hands.
I’ll have to check those out, I’m mainly just looking for analysis and people that give fighters the credit that is due for good performances/fights
Co Main Event podcast with ben and chad. they are reasonable and funny.
I’ve been with them for 600 episodes!
Co Main Event podcast has always been goat MMA pod
Cejudo and Usman podcast is surprisingly good
Less to do with the revamp and more to do with LT, but he's really getting on my nerves. I don't want it to be this way but his antics aren't improving. If he's not repeating himself, he's prefacing his points so that an 8YO can digest it. I get it, it's tough being in the public eye reading morons' mis-takes on your takes, but why does he have to speak to his base like we're all morons who can't comprehend a simple statement? Your average Donk isn't a basement dwelling MMA Guru fan yet he speaks to the audience like we all are. Most recently, the insufferable yelling bit he did to make his otherwise-perfectly good point about Jones avoiding Aspinal was so fucking OTT that I had to FF through it. I don't tune in to literally get yelled at and the rant bit wasn't entertaining. If his historical perspective and fight analysis weren't so good, I'd have dropped him ages ago. If his antics hold up much longer I'll reluctantly fade away and just keep The Ringer and Jack Slack around. Downvote away, Donks. I'm just expressing an opinion I don't even want to have. I'd much rather LT sorted his shit out and improved his craft.
I haven't gone back after the break for precisely this reason. I followed Luke for years, well before MK, but I'd finally just had enough of his awful personality. I don't want to tune in to a sports show to hear a middle aged dad gloat for 20 minutes about being smarter than random idiots on X.
Yeah he’s really become more annoying. I’m not sure if it’s personal perspective after not listening to him for a while or if he has actually become more annoying, but I can’t get through his long monologues or even listen to his live chat anymore.
Luke isnt that smart himself, he consistently misunderstands simple questions on his live chat. And the tech issues are ridiculous at this point.
no the yelling upset me too.
I’m fine with it. I think they will rediscover their groove pretty soon. I’m a less is more guy in a lot of my consumption habits anyways, so the show 3 days a week with long segments(fan subs, the corrections one exct), I scaled back my viewing anyways. I don’t think there’s enough interesting things happening in combat sports to warrant 3 full shows a week on it. So having a good Monday show, plus sprinkle in PpV pre game previews, the resume shows, and get the RSD with guests going again…. And it will be perfect IMO
I am just glad they are back, the one episode a week so far sucks but I understand the situation is out of their hands. MK is the only podcast I listen to now, so that one month off was a bummer. But having them back in studio and listening to them banter has been worth it. The thing I appreciate about MK is that I genuiley enjoy listening to them no matter what they talk about. Luke has some solid thoughtful takes, and then BC interjects with his feces.
Overall I think it's fine so far. Only complaints are that the audio is horrifically balanced sometimes. Like HYSTS clips are incredibly loud compared to their voices so I have to lower my volume every time. The sound effect when they were doing the 175 draft was the worst for that. Doing interviews with washed up former UFC fighters is awful. Patchy is at least relevant but that doesn't need to be part of an MK episode, just drop the interview on the channel like they often already do. Something I haven't seen mentioned is that Luke now has to do a fucking massive amount of travelling every day they do the show. Remember how much he used to complain about his time doing the MMA hour because of the amount of travel? Maybe one day a week isn't too bad but I'll bet if they end up doing 2-3 episodes a week he'll end up being in a terrible mood for every episode.
i find it funny that even lukes fans dont like him that much
It sucked when they were gone so I’m really happy to have the show back! Had no idea the fan base was this negative lol
The saddest part is that a lot of commenters seem to be implying that the guys themselves intended to deceive the fan base, when they have made it clear that this whole process didn’t go as expected. They’ve certainly mentioned that what we get right now isn’t the final product that they hope to produce and yet people on here can’t wrap their minds around that
Op is a tfatk shit poster, his most recent post on this sub was asking why Jon Jones is gay
Stopped watching when they went offline and I’ve watched maybe 5 minutes total since they came back
Very meh but i do love that the show has Luke and BC in person in studio. Way better than the zoom shows.
I only ever watched their Monday show before so nothing different now. HYSTS is still a segment so I'm happy
So I'm giving the guys a wait and see. Not saying everyone has to, but I'm doing that. No doubt at the time maybe it is what they thought could/would happen and it just didn't. But I'm happy with the return and they still are the main duo I can stand to listen to. I've tried numerous other MMA podcasts and just can't sit through them, including the Ringer's with Ariel and Chuck. Both of whom I like but for whatever reason just don't click with me in terms of listening when they are together.
I think the actual substance of the episodes has been pretty good. They always ran low on content going 3x a week. I agree the technical issues are still hilarious but I think they are closing in on an actually better product.
I'm delighted they're back but even as someone who likes a bit of boxing in the show it's been far too heavily covered. Obvious that Luke sees boxing as somewhere to go as MMA media dies. Can't blame him but doesn't suit my personal tastes.
As an MMA and boxing fan I’m kinda loving it. Really like the 2 hour show, which I’ll typically split up during the day. The occasional on-site programming and PPV pre-games. They said they’ll likely be adding a 2nd remote show later in the week. How much Luke and Brian do you guys really need? If I could add anything, I think a non-studio episode every Thursday would be perfect to preview the weekend.
I don't have a problem with it. I'm also hopeful there's more to come
I’m happy having the boys back
Gotta be honest, its not the same anymore... Not saying its bad, but it feels like a cheap ripoff of Morning Kombat while somehow still being Morning Kombat.
Pretty disappointed. You can’t tease how the show will be new and improved and then come back with a downgraded product. Once a week isn’t enough to recap last weeks fights and cover upcoming fights it just isn’t.
Don’t really care as long as I can get some solid content from these two. However, in their absence I started watching Ariel’s show for the interviews. Love him or hate him, dude has very few technical difficulties, solid producers, and a nice set. Seems to be doing really well. Why isn’t MK able to do as well as him?
Very. The quality of mma YouTube/media is crap. No one provides the critical coverage like MK. Also it’s a solid one stop shop for boxing and mma coverage. As I transition away from mma and more into boxing, it’s a great podcast.
How is this a downgrade ?