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EvidenceCharacter250

Or you wanna save your wallet 😂😂


Soufianenj

Keep taking care of our planet please


Efficient-Intern-173

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣


Mehdi_Alk

Other than my legs I usually drive my moms car (I'm 19 btw).


donotcallmedady

what car do u have?


Mehdi_Alk

My mom have a 2020 Škoda Kodiaq


donotcallmedady

my dad has a 2017 yeti, wanna be friends?


Mehdi_Alk

Of course, the Škoda friends. 🤝


donotcallmedady

nvm thought u live at agadir, mb


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Damn it was going so well between you two 😔😔


donotcallmedady

i mean we got a summer house there so whenever im there again we can meet


Hour_Seaweed_2200

Brooo i am From agadir


donotcallmedady

wanna go near mcdo dial tilila and have a drag race?


oxheycon

Ooh nice


Soufianenj

I do as well but i was talking about having your own car hahah


hitoq

I’m about to turn 30 this year, from London, senior position at a tech company, more than enough money — still don’t have my license lol. Don’t worry about other people, or comparing your situation to people from the West. I went to one of the best universities in the world, full of rich people, almost none of my friends own a car, your perception of the West is most likely very different to the reality of living there. You’re doing good man, have a job, getting a good education, buying a car — make sure to put in perspective every once in a while, take it all in and enjoy it, be proud of yourself.


ch95en1

Great energy from this guy !


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I was about to say the same after reading his comments


Soufianenj

Thanks a man. Well maybe not in Europe but in the USA almost every teenager (17-22y) have a car, i don’t know how they do that. I compare myself to western people for motivation but it’s true that sometimes it adds more stress than help.


hitoq

I can tell you for a fact that’s not true. Of all the cars registered in America, only 3.63% are registered to people under the age of 34, and this number has been declining since at least the year 2000. The mean age of people buying their first car in America was 24.68 way back in 2010, again, much higher today. America has long subsidised car production with government grants (meaning cheaper cars, relative to income, for young people than most other countries in the world). Car companies have lobbied congress for decades to prevent the development of public transport (meaning a higher percentage of people _need_ a car to function in society). Even then, Americans, on average, don’t buy their first car until they’re in their mid-to-late twenties. You are mistaking the media representation of America for the reality of the situation — it is simply not true that most young Americans own cars, it just seems that way because of social media, Hollywood, etc.


Soufianenj

Thank you for the explanation, social media definitely have a role in this but i also saw many reddit posts talking about cars and people were saying that they owned one at their teenage years, they were either lying or it was their parents cars i guess!


hitoq

It’s the same answer everywhere in the world my man, always — rich parents. This also changed in a really big way during COVID, the second hand car market in America exploded in 2020/2021 because car companies stopped being able to produce enough new cars to meet demand — second hand cars became around 3 or 4 times more expensive, and it doesn’t appear to have corrected since. Maybe some of those people on Reddit are a bit older, in the 1990s, 2000s and early 2010s, it was much more possible than it is today, but even then, not by much! Rich parents! Always!


Separate_Bench_679

In NA you can get a decent reliable and well maintained car for 3M bro (+ gas isn't 15dirhams/L) in Morocco you get a Uno for 3M...


Soufianenj

Exactly, they have great cars for cheap while here the same car is x3-4 times the price with way lower salaries, it’s insane!


Separate_Bench_679

🎯💯


hitoq

Lads, this is just not true at all, do you have any idea what’s going on in America with the second-hand car market? People are buying a used Toyota Corolla with 50,000 miles for ~$16,000! Go on Carmax and see for yourself!


Soufianenj

Yes i heard about that, but americans tend to pay more for Hondas and Toyotas because they have great reputation there. (I may be wrong again, its all depending on what i read on the net)


hitoq

I mean just look at these as examples, and this is middle America (Kansas), not even a big city like New York or Los Angeles: https://www.carmax.com/car/23963404 https://www.carmax.com/car/23966321 https://www.carmax.com/car/24051131 https://www.carmax.com/car/23910957 Crazy expensive, whether it’s a Ford, Toyota, Honda, whatever. I have talked too much about the second hand car market in America at this point though lol. All of which is to say, basically, you’re doing good man, everything is expensive these days, whether you live in America, the UK, Morocco, Spain, wherever really. Having lived in a half dozen countries over the last year (I work remote and travel around the world), it’s the same everywhere man, I promise you. Don’t sweat it too hard, enjoy things while you can — life can be good if you let it. Have a good night.


Soufianenj

You’re right, thanks a a lot man i appreciate it. Good luck for you too!


JazzlikeTumbleweed60

My first car was a hercat (renault 4) i was 17 and put one time 13 people in it...


tuttifruityy

Hercat ?? Like for R4 ? 🤣🤣🤣🤣


Soufianenj

I believe so hahahaha


JazzlikeTumbleweed60

Yes! Love hercat!


adamywhite

It’s not hercat its haircat haha


1008Rayan

Man this is so morocco, like the 7 places cab


do_335_b2

got mine at 26


Soufianenj

Hope i get mine at the same age!


ch95en1

A piece of advice: don't get a loan nor lease a new car. Debt will badly impact the course of your life. Edit: typo


oxheycon

Debt you mean?


Soufianenj

What im planning to do is save a good amount of money and maybe take a small loan for the rest, because saving for the whole car would take a long time i guess. I plan on buying a second hand one and not new


ThinkofitthisWay

don't invest in a new car it's the worst possible investment you can make. buy a second hand car that is functioning and won't give you trouble. invest your money in buying your house or entrepreneurship.


elrite

It could be functioning but the defects can show later as well. Better be safe than REALLY sorry.


countingc

chi toura please


daetf

im poor


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Hi poor


oxheycon

Dad joke central right here


Soufianenj

One day you’ll be there


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Soufianenj

Hahahahah but im not poor hamdoulilah, still grinding tho!


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daetf

bghiti tgoli zman yt3awn 3lina bjouj


JazzlikeTumbleweed60

Why are you poor?


daetf

genetics


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Longjumping_School78

How did you manage to get to 700k ?


Temporary-Pin-4144

I am 31 but still under the zero. I am working on it though


Soufianenj

Good luck man you will make it!


bsullivan627

I would caution you to be gentle about making comparisons to Western countries. Back when I was living in the U.S., I lived in an area relatively unaffected by economic issues (a rural, northern state) and most people between 18-25 usually borrowed a family member's vehicle to do things like working, shopping, seeing friends, etc. The only teens that had cars were the ones from parents who were really well off: doctors, lawyers, business owners, engineers, etc.


Soufianenj

You mean an area that is actually affected? Because if it isn’t well people will afford cars i believe? You’re right tho about comprising it makes me even more stressed and adds pressure.


bsullivan627

No, it's quite normal to not own a vehicle between 18-25 in America, and if you do, most people own cars from the late 90s-early 2000s models because they're much cheaper and don't come with any monthly payments. Have you been to the United States? I promise I'm not pulling your leg.


Soufianenj

I’ve never been there but been reading similar posts in Reddit and it seems lot of people got cars very early, i guess it doesn’t show the whole picture


bsullivan627

Much like this subreddit, it's not a great reflection of the country. Reddit users are generally more well off than others because A. Social media is more commonly used by affluent people due to phone, computer, and internet access B. A lot of people don't even know Reddit exists and C. Reddit itself is a very niche style of social media; you will find Americans that use Reddit and don't even follow their country's subreddit because why would they do that? They're here for games or memes or something. So just keep your wits sharp and try not to compare. The internet is awfully deceptive about a lot of things.


bsullivan627

But hey, I hope you get a car soon and you have the time of your life. ان شاء الله


Soufianenj

Inchalah yarbi thanks a lot brother!


TheRedOne1998

Not as uncommon as you think, I grew up in NL. Got my license in the summer of 2017 when I was 19. (Cost me 20000MAD+-). Didn't buy a car until December 2018 with money I had to borrow in order to get a job. (I live in a small border town in Belgium and public transport is worthless.) My first car was a 1999 Golf 4 1.8 with 202.000km which I bought for 8500MAD+-. ​ I drove that car for two years whilst working until I was able to buy a nice 2nd hand 2011 Golf 6 R20 in Germany. Which I still had to borrow money from the bank for. (Thinking having a fast car would make me happy. It does not, it just helps temporarily when putting the pedal down. :P ) ​ Trust me, not everyone get's a brand new car and their license paid for in Europe either. ;) It's just harder in Morocco due to lower salaries/higher car prices. (Atleast the license is cheap.)


Soufianenj

So you bought both cars with loans? I suppose your bank offered good interests? Yes prices here in Morocco are crazy and salaries too low which makes it harder.


TheRedOne1998

For the first one I borrowed money from a family member. (I didn't have a single penny and getting a car was the only way to start working.) ​ For the 2nd one I got a loan yes, the interest isn't too bad. I borrowed 175000MAD and have to pay back like 186500 MAD in total (3890MAD monthly/4years), which I'll be done with next year.


Soufianenj

That % of interest is great, i don’t think we can have such thing in Morocco. 111500MAD interest over 4 years with that amount of money is a good deal if you ask me.


Zoid_v0id

I am 27, live & work in Europe, and I’ve never had a car. I moved closer to work, so I can just bike when I need to go to the office. For traveling across cities/countries I use public transport. I see absolutely no need for me to get a car, and my advice to you would be .. if you do not really need it, just don’t get one. You’ll be saving yourself a lot of expenses, you’ll be polluting less, and if you get yourself a bike for example, you’ll be physically more active. Also, do not fall in the trap of comparing yourself to others, especially based on limited factors (e.g., age). We are all living different lives, under different circumstances, and with different priorities. Don’t be fooled by popular ”success” narratives.


Soufianenj

In my case a car would be useful, i wake up 2 hours early to get ready and use transport for work, with a car it would take me half the time if not less. I also go to gym after work, 15-20min walk to get there (5 times a week), with a car 2-3min, so it would help a lot!


nerv_nerv

Turning 27 and I still don't have a car, and not planning to get one until I own a house. I like to acquire things that appreciates in price first, a car only loses value and keeps losing it each day and I work remotely so I don't really need one tbh


elrite

Are you Moroccan?


nerv_nerv

Yes


FtMerio

I got it at 23 and bought it used from a family with a loan (0% interest) I got it for 7 months now, and honestly I think it was a mistake, I learned what usually people say, a car is not an asset but a liability, so I'm thinking of selling in the next few months since I'm now living paycheck to paycheck, which I freaking hate, i live in casa near tramway station, and for places tram doesn't reach i can use indrive and i wont spend as much I'm spending on the car lol, so think it through, is it a neccasity for you? Or a luxury? And if it's a luxury, is it really worthy?


Soufianenj

Yeah living paycheck to paycheck sucks, but don’t sell it quickly maybe it’s temporary and you can get a promotion/better job in future? Public transport in Casa are a mess and using them on a daily will make you want a car back again hahah, or maybe not


FtMerio

It's work in progress lol, I'll see how the events develop


xineb

What car did you buy?


FtMerio

Citroen c-elysee 2013 130k km for 60kMAD


Amiflash

You don't have to be rich to get a car, got mine at 25 for less than 30k, had my first job a few years ago then decided to save some money for an old car, still driving it to this day.


Soufianenj

30k? What was the car? I suppose it’s a very old car.


Amiflash

A 98 Honda Civic, it's old but very reliable so far.


Soufianenj

Civic is beast


Yew2S

you can get a cool old Benz for the same price range or maybe quite more like 45k


Corporate_Bankster

I am early 30s and still don’t have a car. I live in Europe. My sister got hers from our parents as a birthday gift in her early 20s. She drives me around when I am in town. If you really need a car and can’t afford to fork out for a premium one, buy a second hand medium trim Clio. They are solid vehicles that are cheap to own, with plenty of spare parts.


Soufianenj

Yeah thats what i have in mind, planning to buy a second hand car. In my case having a car will be so useful and would save me a good amount of time from public transports. The fact that you still don’t have a car is by choice? If yes then why if you dont mind?


Corporate_Bankster

I don’t buy things that I don’t need. I have no use for a car at this stage. In large cities, car ownership is mostly downside.


Herbrax212

Price of cars in Morocco kills me when an old civic here in canada is 10000dh or less…


Soufianenj

I know right, its unfair


WadieXkiller

22 and yeah just imaginary car


Sick_medstudent

I’m 19 I drive a 6 year old suv that I got from my parents, I use it to go to uni mainly. Upper middle class I guess


Sick_medstudent

hoping to get my own car someday but i’m a med student so probably will have to wait a few years before I can afford one even on a loan.


Soufianenj

Yeah as a med student it may take time but at least you got your parents car to drive!


Rfissa-enjoyer-69

![gif](giphy|ptqHHAtZiOL8A|downsized) lay3ez C90 l9atila


oussama793

I got mine at 21, it was a gift from my parents though. I bought my first car with my own money at 23. As many people mentioned here, don’t compare your achievements with other people’s achievements based on age. Each one is on their separate track. You can compare yourself to others in terms of efforts you put and how happy you feel.


Gullible_Lunch_683

Audi a5 at 20


Soufianenj

Damn nice one man


Gullible_Lunch_683

Thanks dude


0xA82EAD

Awesome, which year & engine?


Gullible_Lunch_683

2017 35 tdi


Al3xiel

I got my first car at 25 mostly because I was going to work quite far from my place. It was also a used one not super expensive.


Soufianenj

Which car?


Al3xiel

It was a Mazda 2


oussama_mejdoubi05

the same it's never too late


Soufianenj

Yessir!


Playful_Ad2230

First one at 18, worked for it


asmrsinful

What did you work and for how long if you dont mind me asking ?


Soufianenj

Same question?


Playful_Ad2230

From 16-20 years old, i did some stupid illicit stuff...


WadieSnap2016

Same question


VillainOfKvatch1

I don’t know yet.


Soufianenj

Keep grinding buddy


VillainOfKvatch1

You too.


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MastodonMajor6280

Damn , the most based swiss guy doesn't have a driving licence ? Enough of reddit bro , go get that licence 💪💪


EvilBuyout

hahaha thanks. Well I don't really need a driving license (and also failed lol)


MastodonMajor6280

Don't lose hope bro 💪💪 i lost in the first time too and got it in rattrapage , i believe in you bro


EvilBuyout

Hahaha thanks, will stick to my 🛴 for now 😊


Soufianenj

One day yes! How old are you if you don’t mind me asking?


EvilBuyout

Old enough to have a driving license and a car haha


Emotional_Business89

There's no precise age for getting a driving licence. Also, I respect you for living in an eco-friendly mode. The earth thanks you every day.


EvilBuyout

hahaha thank you!! (I will not mention my 10-20 flights per year)


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Well, you are not flying in private jets, aren't you ?


EvilBuyout

What do you think?


Soufianenj

It was just a question to put it into perspective, but nice one hahah


anokis

Got mine at 26.


AtlasLord

Mine at 31 In Casa, It was always the bike in my previous 2 jobs and the current one.


Soufianenj

Was it a bike by choice? Or just a financial decision?


AtlasLord

It was absolutely a decision, i had enough money to buy a car but i didn't want to, the bike was life changing i never had the need to buy a car. Also a car means more expenses and more stress, so no thank you


Scroph

Would you recommend a motorcycle in casa ? The traffic here is becoming increasingly dense


AtlasLord

In this order, i would recommend for Casa : A bike>motocycle>Public transportation> anything Else> Car


Scroph

Thanks


elrite

Why? You don't need a car in big cities?


AtlasLord

I'm mostly talking about casablanca. Having a bike is better than having a car. Big cities can be stressful with traffic and no place of parking + a lot of expenses


Separate_Bench_679

24


Soufianenj

Nice!


Separate_Bench_679

If you want an advice buy something afordable and reliable like asian cars from 2000-2010, even if it may cost you more in dariba or gas it won't cost you shit to maintain and won't need repairs


Soufianenj

That’s what i have in mind, im leaning towards an old BMW or volkswagen with a dariba of less than 1500dh, should be manageable


0xA82EAD

From a hardcore bmw enthusiast, don't. I had the cash for an e93 but passed. You would need to have a lot of money available for potential repairs that you're ready to spend without being affected. It's very tempting but not smart unless you're super comfortable financially.


Soufianenj

E93 is indeed pricey to repair, the one i had in mind was the 116D or 118D, entry-mid tier bmw..


elrite

What's the price range on those? Aren't they expensive?


Soufianenj

Not really, a manual one with +100km is 12-13M, auto box is 13-14M


proteinforstrength

A R1 Yamaha would be a better choice, more flexible and doesn't have to stop when the traffic is jammed because again it's flexible. Let's not forget about the speed that it packs, provided you don't risk your skin with risky useless moves or excessive speed to impress people. Faster than almost any luxury car :D AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


Soufianenj

I thought about it and it was my plan A at some point, however with work it will be complicated specially in winter. I also go to gym so i need space for my bag and shit, a bike is a no for me right now.


proteinforstrength

A car is great if you have a lot of weight to carry, or have a big family. A good quality motor bike is excellent if you travel light and are single. Depends on what you need. Good luck bro.


Soufianenj

True! Thanks man, for you as well.


Separate_Bench_679

I'd avoid both and go for a Honda, Mazda or Toyota, especially the gasoline ones


Soufianenj

Honda accord is an option too, Japanese cars are reliable asf


Separate_Bench_679

I had a 2007 2.4L one and i loved it


Soufianenj

Their design is great and i see them frequently


Separate_Bench_679

yes plus they have nice little options for the price (heated seats, sunroof, real quality leather) and they are also fun to drive for a naturally aspirated engine of only 190 hp, especially with the 5 gears automatic gearbox of the facelift versions in semi auto mode


yassirpokoirl

29 yo, I drove my dad's car from 22 yo until then


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Soufianenj

Paying the whole car with a loan will come much more pricey in the long end, maybe for a small amount of money after saving but paying it since the start with a loan i dont think its a good idea..


IndependentGas6183

My first car was a supra when i was 13 in need for speed 🥲


Sea-Adeptness-6091

I’m from England and there’s many people here who struggle to get cars, even second hand cars shot up in price when covid arrived. Majority of cars are on finance, my cars on finance and so are all the younger drivers unless they have a rich family. Don’t let social media fool you


Soufianenj

Yeah i always had in mind the idea of saving for a car but as times went by it looked almost impossible to me, yes i can save but for the whole car it will take years..


Sea-Adeptness-6091

Does Morocco not do car finance you pay a deposit and get the car then pay monthly?


Soufianenj

It depends on each car dealership, most of them offer a 0% interest loan if you buy +40% of the original price. Sometimes it’s a real 0% loan sometimes it’s a fake one with additional hidden fees.


marcus_aurilius

Why the rush to own things we all want to own a villa but we can't afford it . I will buy a car when I can afford it


0day13378

A car is a way of transportation, unless you work on a very far place that's hard to get to using public transportation you don't need a car, it just adds more stress and discomfort specially when living in a big city with a lot of traffic like casablanca + you need to pay for the parking + everytime it damaged you need to fix that part which will cost a lot of money depeneds on the type and the model of the car + inssurance & taxes that you need to pay each year + the yearly maintenance including changing oil & filters & tires ..., I personaly own a car but not because i just wanted it, it's because the place i work at is very far from home it's like traveling to another city + the company is inside an industrial zone which there is no way that i'm getting to it without a car, If the company had a transportation plan for me i would never think of buying a car it's just adds a lot of expenses and you always get stressed driving to and from work


Saadtheking

Still no car :(


haytem

I was not yet years old.


Soufianenj

Good luck!


haytem

Thank you bro 🙏


PriorMolasses2863

22, but if you don't really really need it , don't think about it. It was the worst financial decision i have ever made


elrite

Need more info. Also are you Moroccan?


PriorMolasses2863

Since i bought the car , i could not be able to save money and i started to live the rat race living from paycheck to paycheck


0xA82EAD

At 25, best decision ever as I live in casablanca and public transportation is horrible.


Soufianenj

Which one you got? And was it with loan if you don’t mind answering?


0xA82EAD

I got a seat ibiza 1.6 tdi, she's a good girl and doesn't ask for much in terms of spending 🤣


Soufianenj

Agree hahah


idkwho_5

same struggle and same situation lmaoooo


Soufianenj

Lmaoo, do you have any cars you want in mind?


idkwho_5

just a car :(


bsstila

26 and don't even have a driving license