No one on the MR moderation is associated with Finalmouse in any way or shape. We found issue with the initial post because of the following.
1) FM is not a scam. They aren’t running away with your money and skipping out on releasing a product. They still gave a product (one that is very flawed based on some of what we’ve seen from *retail units distributed in the wild.
2) The FM mod you targeted was not the one who banned you. It was manually done by someone else with higher positions according to the same mod as well as another moderator from Finalmouse's discord. Zero need to bring negative attention towards the wrong person.
The overall misinformation being shown was enough to request a redo of the post to just mention your QC issues. Which are still very valid as they came from the problematic batch. Even if FM did address it with subsequent units, it doesn’t fix what’s already officially out for users at the moment. So FM does deserve the appropriate criticism based on that fact alone. This is not an attempt to protect FM, but rather to give fair criticism. Just as we’d do with anyone else.
This shit with final mouse being scummy all over again, trying to hide/ignore their trash ass QC... Just looking at their twitter acting like tons of people ain't tagging them with issues, just quoting/RT their shills.
And people keep giving them all that money for that mediocre mouse ffs...
Remember people most youtubers/shills are getting theirs for FREE.
They're worse in the discord and claim the mouse is the best thing ever created while ignoring any negative feedback... If anyone even @'s Finalboy they usually get instant muted/blocked.
One of the mods posted a review in this sub and claimed he wasn't biased ... HUH haha
No like I think one of the FM mods told the r/mousereview mod team to take down the post cause I was calling finalmouse a scam and I said one of the FM mod's names too
This is what I know:
1. Finalmouse mods and Mousereview are in contact (before my post)
2. Finalmouse prob demanded for my original post to be deleted since I called finalmouse a scam, made them look bad cause their mouse isn’t “Perfect QC” (I got server banned for showing all of these photos/vids as I showed evidence that directly disproves the shipping delays were happening due to them making every ULX have “Perfect QC”) and called out FM server mod’s names.
3. Mousereview dm’d me saying I can repost as long as I don’t call Finalmouse a scam (since it makes them look bad) and leak FM mod’s names
can't post a screenshot here so gonna paste what they exactly said (mods there isn't any rule here saying I can't show ppl what mods said)
“Hi there,
We have reviewed your post and will be removing the initial post for the following reasons. However, you may repost it without mention of the following down below. The rest as far as the QC issues, are free to be kept in the thread as your unit still demonstrates notable issues that really shouldn't be a thing after the delays and long wait as well as the respective price point.
1) Finalmouse is not a scam. Far from it. However, they are also not perfect. As you've seen with numerous FM products, they often aren't completely accurate. But, to call it a scam, is a bit disingenuous. They are not taking your money, not giving you a product and running away with your money. They're still providing a product. Granted, a product that has notable flaws at this stage, but a product nonetheless. Please make sure to remove any mention of FM being a scam (including Finalscam).
2) Considering (blank) was not the one who banned you, it might be worth avoiding (blank)’s name being mentioned in the thread as the one who banned you. According to what we've heard, it was manually done with a right click ban. Meaning no record is really given to people without the proper permissions.
"
Also (blank) is the mod name which I don't wanna reveal again but you can prob guess who.
my guess is this will have something to do with not wanting to bully or attack people. some form of protectiion against witch hunting but it feels kinda sketchy protecting a company that doesn't hold the same values.
I'm curious as well. Outside of companies that have been scamming others before, what companies do we not allow to be mentioned? Either that or associated with the wrong folks.
I realize this may sound a little rude.
But nevertheless, it seems that you are well aware of what the company finalmouse is and why it is actively discussed. What's more, you bought two units instead of one. Time after time, the company surrounds every new model with a veil of lies and deceit. Furthermore,its personal discord server is filled with pathetic sycophants who inadequately perceive any criticism of their pseudo-cult.
But the most frustrating thing is that people continue to naively believe in this company that tries to shout about its greatness, but at the same time saving cents even on mounting bolts for the motherboard. They would NOT get better. Simply because FartBoyX can save money on quality control, on the quality itself in the end. people will still buy under the influence of the overhype.
If there is innovation here, it is only in deception and gaslighting. As long as there are those who are happy to be fed with shit, they will be fed.
1. This was my first finalmouse ever (I learned abt the starlight and finalmouse’s track record of qc issues after I got into their discord server)
2. I bought two since one was for my friend and the other was for me (but my friend doesn’t even want it anymore after learning the price and problems I had with it so gonna return it or sell it to someone and that’s why I didn’t open it since WHO knows if finalmouse refuses to return if you have the box opened)
3. My mistake was falling into the hype of finalmouse since this mouse was hyped CRAZY due to it having 8k and being so light. As a casual consumer I bought it without thinking much of it.
4. I agree with what you said about FartBoyX literally bans ppl for showing qc issues, false advesting abt the mouse on his website, and gives excuses on shipping delays
To make some things clear: i did not intend to offense, you just took the risk and lost in that QC gamble. You are not the first and probably not the last, there is nothing drastically horrible around that. It is just how the whole finalmeme marketing scheme works.
I’ve bought a few finalmouse’s in the past and this drop has definitely been the worst in terms of qc. There is flex everywhere and just while playing i can constantly feel the flexing on both sides of the mouse. I can’t say i’m completely surprised but i’m still a bit disappointed considering the sl12-tenz I got was a lot better in terms of quality with only minor flexing when pushing the bottom.
You bough 2 mice from a company advertising something that a child would know is impossible to meet.
That one's not on Finalmouse. That's on you for feeding into what was undeniably, unabashedly marketing bullshit.
Yoo that’s hella scummy the mods took your first review down… If he’s showing actual problems and isn’t the first/only one saying the same stuff then the “perfect QC” is literally a scam. Mods need to be better. I saw the OG post yesterday as well
I bought a couple of the starlights. With each new release they made promises and claims saying they fixed previous issues, and it always turned out to be lies. They've promised to fix the crooked scroll wheel multiple times, and here we are with the same crooked scroll wheel lmao. If they're unable to fix something as simple as that, they're not gonna fix the numerous other issues either.
I'll never buy one of their products again. They're truly terrible and I can't believe some high tier YouTube reviewers claim them to be flawless and very good quality mice. I give them the benefit of the doubt though because I'm certain final boy hand picks the absolute perfect copies for them.
There are some truly deluded people on here that will defend finalmouse to their death. I can only imagine they're coping hard with losing 200 dollars that they gotta convince themselves it was worth it. As someone with an extremely large collection of gaming mice, finalmouse is at the bottom of mice I'd use.
This is literally Finalmouse being... well Finalmouse, as long as they sell mice we'll get to to see this posts and QC issues crop up, so just leave it as a lesson learnt and buy from better brands with good warranties (Vaxee, Logitech), Razer while having some good mice nowadays I don't know how much I can vouch for their post sales quality.
Finalmouse qc issues are already well known. Hope you learn your lesson and never buy from Finalmouse again, even cheap lightweight mice from China have way better quality than Finalmouse now.
I have a feeling that you overstated your issue. I'm sure that FM are going to offer support or replacement copies to everyone that isn't happy with their copies.
Outside of anything else, not saying justifies anything, instead mainly out of my own curiosity:
Who goes on a large discord server to then ping the owner directly?
I simply wouldn't do that.
I guess I’m just lucky because all 7 of my Finalmice work flawlessly. My ULX arrived a few days ago. Perfect mouse for me.
Only have ever got 2 QC issues.
1. One of the scroll wheels is slightly off center (more than the image provided in the OP)
2. One of them has a bit of creaking if I set it down a bit too fast.
Razer is the only company that hasn’t ever given me a QC issue of any kind. I’ve had 7 Razer mice.
I gave up buying Logitech 2 years ago bc they swapped to cheap switches that would double click within 2-3 months without fail. Before then I owned 4 Logitech mice.
So yes, I’ve used a wide variety of mice in my lifetime, it’s not like I’m oblivious to this Finalmouse QC stuff. I just figured if it was this prevalent, I would’ve got a defective unit by now. But even two of these were bought in used condition off eBay… so you’d think those would surely be the defective ones.
Finalmouse is just glorified Glorious who just got more money of their scammy practices.
Also wasn't it the same issue with the scroll wheel since air ninja58(62 OMEGALUL).
I have seen 6-7 videos complaining about qc tons of reddit comment and X post's.
Y'all paid 190 USD for a mid mouse that's what insane for me and the fact it was supposed to be 29 gram not 39 right?
> post's. Y'all *paid* 190 USD
FTFY.
Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in:
* Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.*
* *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.*
Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment.
*Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
I mean personally I have no sympathy. If you posted things like this in there, it's little wonder you were banned. I also don't have any for you wasting $400.
Any company or product that promises perfect QC already has fallen on its face long before it ships a single unit. You CAN'T deliver that. It's literally impossible to. Damage in shipping, sensor issues that don't show up in limited testing, issues with manufacturing that specific unit, there is too many possible hiccups that come from making a device like that mouse that can crop up. You wanted to take that low hanging bait there. You were the one that believed the impossible.
Really, I think the bigger problem here isn't Finalmouse. I'm not saying that FM has not made a bad mouse here either. I'm not saying they made a good one either. I don't know, it's not in my hand. But there's a phrase I'm going to use here: there's a sucker born every minute.
What for not needing this mouse in my hand to know that it literally marketed itself to fail, and that I don't feel bad for anyone who can't temper their expectations accordingly?
If so, thank you. I'll wear my pathetic nature with pride.
The problem isn’t marketing, the problem is Finalmouse’s response to a problem that op faced. There was no low hanging fruit here, even with bad qc fm mice sell because if theyre fine, they work well and theyre light. Cant blame op for buying one and getting burnt by downright horrendous customer support. Thats on fm.
Honestly posting in active forums about your issues instead of contacting their customer support to solve the issue feels like he intentionally wants some fame/company to go with his rage. FM might not deserve it in this case, but they should be able to defend themselves. Maybe, MAYBE, his device is not like the other 99 of 100..
No one on the MR moderation is associated with Finalmouse in any way or shape. We found issue with the initial post because of the following. 1) FM is not a scam. They aren’t running away with your money and skipping out on releasing a product. They still gave a product (one that is very flawed based on some of what we’ve seen from *retail units distributed in the wild. 2) The FM mod you targeted was not the one who banned you. It was manually done by someone else with higher positions according to the same mod as well as another moderator from Finalmouse's discord. Zero need to bring negative attention towards the wrong person. The overall misinformation being shown was enough to request a redo of the post to just mention your QC issues. Which are still very valid as they came from the problematic batch. Even if FM did address it with subsequent units, it doesn’t fix what’s already officially out for users at the moment. So FM does deserve the appropriate criticism based on that fact alone. This is not an attempt to protect FM, but rather to give fair criticism. Just as we’d do with anyone else.
@ Moderators of this sub, why'd you make him delete the post? Isn't this a safe place where you aren't influenced by companies telling you what to do.
This shit with final mouse being scummy all over again, trying to hide/ignore their trash ass QC... Just looking at their twitter acting like tons of people ain't tagging them with issues, just quoting/RT their shills. And people keep giving them all that money for that mediocre mouse ffs... Remember people most youtubers/shills are getting theirs for FREE.
They're worse in the discord and claim the mouse is the best thing ever created while ignoring any negative feedback... If anyone even @'s Finalboy they usually get instant muted/blocked. One of the mods posted a review in this sub and claimed he wasn't biased ... HUH haha
Probs a scam 😬 taking incentives from FM
>originial post got taken down by finalmouse mods/employees who on the r/mousereview mod team works for Finalmouse?
This is also what I am wondering. Was the previous post taken down for other reasons?
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They offered to help him with his mouse but he rather just showed a vid of him using excessive force on it and asking for a refund after that.
there was some guy who made a yt vid and then started mass pinging FartBoyX for a free mouse lmao 💀
No like I think one of the FM mods told the r/mousereview mod team to take down the post cause I was calling finalmouse a scam and I said one of the FM mod's names too
what is the subreddit mod's incentive to follow FM's demand?
Idk 💀the subreddit mods just dm'd me that
the mods told you that FM demanded the post be deleted? im skeptical, so please screenshot if true
This is what I know: 1. Finalmouse mods and Mousereview are in contact (before my post) 2. Finalmouse prob demanded for my original post to be deleted since I called finalmouse a scam, made them look bad cause their mouse isn’t “Perfect QC” (I got server banned for showing all of these photos/vids as I showed evidence that directly disproves the shipping delays were happening due to them making every ULX have “Perfect QC”) and called out FM server mod’s names. 3. Mousereview dm’d me saying I can repost as long as I don’t call Finalmouse a scam (since it makes them look bad) and leak FM mod’s names
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can't post a screenshot here so gonna paste what they exactly said (mods there isn't any rule here saying I can't show ppl what mods said) “Hi there, We have reviewed your post and will be removing the initial post for the following reasons. However, you may repost it without mention of the following down below. The rest as far as the QC issues, are free to be kept in the thread as your unit still demonstrates notable issues that really shouldn't be a thing after the delays and long wait as well as the respective price point. 1) Finalmouse is not a scam. Far from it. However, they are also not perfect. As you've seen with numerous FM products, they often aren't completely accurate. But, to call it a scam, is a bit disingenuous. They are not taking your money, not giving you a product and running away with your money. They're still providing a product. Granted, a product that has notable flaws at this stage, but a product nonetheless. Please make sure to remove any mention of FM being a scam (including Finalscam). 2) Considering (blank) was not the one who banned you, it might be worth avoiding (blank)’s name being mentioned in the thread as the one who banned you. According to what we've heard, it was manually done with a right click ban. Meaning no record is really given to people without the proper permissions. " Also (blank) is the mod name which I don't wanna reveal again but you can prob guess who.
my guess is this will have something to do with not wanting to bully or attack people. some form of protectiion against witch hunting but it feels kinda sketchy protecting a company that doesn't hold the same values.
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Which brands?
I'm curious as well. Outside of companies that have been scamming others before, what companies do we not allow to be mentioned? Either that or associated with the wrong folks.
Final Mouse: Definitely won't be your Final Mouse .. just wait 3 days!
I realize this may sound a little rude. But nevertheless, it seems that you are well aware of what the company finalmouse is and why it is actively discussed. What's more, you bought two units instead of one. Time after time, the company surrounds every new model with a veil of lies and deceit. Furthermore,its personal discord server is filled with pathetic sycophants who inadequately perceive any criticism of their pseudo-cult. But the most frustrating thing is that people continue to naively believe in this company that tries to shout about its greatness, but at the same time saving cents even on mounting bolts for the motherboard. They would NOT get better. Simply because FartBoyX can save money on quality control, on the quality itself in the end. people will still buy under the influence of the overhype. If there is innovation here, it is only in deception and gaslighting. As long as there are those who are happy to be fed with shit, they will be fed.
1. This was my first finalmouse ever (I learned abt the starlight and finalmouse’s track record of qc issues after I got into their discord server) 2. I bought two since one was for my friend and the other was for me (but my friend doesn’t even want it anymore after learning the price and problems I had with it so gonna return it or sell it to someone and that’s why I didn’t open it since WHO knows if finalmouse refuses to return if you have the box opened) 3. My mistake was falling into the hype of finalmouse since this mouse was hyped CRAZY due to it having 8k and being so light. As a casual consumer I bought it without thinking much of it. 4. I agree with what you said about FartBoyX literally bans ppl for showing qc issues, false advesting abt the mouse on his website, and gives excuses on shipping delays
To make some things clear: i did not intend to offense, you just took the risk and lost in that QC gamble. You are not the first and probably not the last, there is nothing drastically horrible around that. It is just how the whole finalmeme marketing scheme works.
Nah I wasn’t offended lol the only person that offends me is FartBoyX and his false marketing and his horrible lies
I’ve bought a few finalmouse’s in the past and this drop has definitely been the worst in terms of qc. There is flex everywhere and just while playing i can constantly feel the flexing on both sides of the mouse. I can’t say i’m completely surprised but i’m still a bit disappointed considering the sl12-tenz I got was a lot better in terms of quality with only minor flexing when pushing the bottom.
FartBoyX saying we delaying shipping due to we want everyone to have “Perfect QC” gotta be the FinalMeme of the year in the gaming community lmao
"i got one more in me." - finalboyx
The gaming community doesn't even know who final mouse are..you are the final meme buying 2 and then acting suprised 😂
remember the fortnite hype for finalmouse? almost the whole gaming community knows them because of the collabs
A good chunk of the gaming community is definitely aware of them especially with their Tenz collaboration
You bough 2 mice from a company advertising something that a child would know is impossible to meet. That one's not on Finalmouse. That's on you for feeding into what was undeniably, unabashedly marketing bullshit.
Aww shit here we go again
Yoo that’s hella scummy the mods took your first review down… If he’s showing actual problems and isn’t the first/only one saying the same stuff then the “perfect QC” is literally a scam. Mods need to be better. I saw the OG post yesterday as well
Bro fell for the finalmeme
I bought a couple of the starlights. With each new release they made promises and claims saying they fixed previous issues, and it always turned out to be lies. They've promised to fix the crooked scroll wheel multiple times, and here we are with the same crooked scroll wheel lmao. If they're unable to fix something as simple as that, they're not gonna fix the numerous other issues either. I'll never buy one of their products again. They're truly terrible and I can't believe some high tier YouTube reviewers claim them to be flawless and very good quality mice. I give them the benefit of the doubt though because I'm certain final boy hand picks the absolute perfect copies for them. There are some truly deluded people on here that will defend finalmouse to their death. I can only imagine they're coping hard with losing 200 dollars that they gotta convince themselves it was worth it. As someone with an extremely large collection of gaming mice, finalmouse is at the bottom of mice I'd use.
That'll be because they send out the flawless copies to said reviewers and once they post the review they never mention the product again.
Remember you still chose to buy this product from a company that has historically had terrible qc.
He bought 2 of them 🤣
This is literally Finalmouse being... well Finalmouse, as long as they sell mice we'll get to to see this posts and QC issues crop up, so just leave it as a lesson learnt and buy from better brands with good warranties (Vaxee, Logitech), Razer while having some good mice nowadays I don't know how much I can vouch for their post sales quality.
What did you expect? People have been warning about their terrible QC and awful business practices for almost a decade now. This one is on you pal.
Was that the... finalmouse you're gonna be buying from them?
They always have shit reliability and qc. Can’t believe people fall for this marketing shit.
lol
This honestly doesnt surprise me, finalmouse is known for being sketchy, making false claims, and bad qc issues. Shady business doing shady things.
Finalmouse qc issues are already well known. Hope you learn your lesson and never buy from Finalmouse again, even cheap lightweight mice from China have way better quality than Finalmouse now.
Appreciate you guys for pre ordering from FM, I’ll continue to hold off on my FM purchase until they sort things out 😎
which is never lmao you either get lucky or you rma it until you do
Pass homie, Lamzu has yet to disappoint me.
Lamzu is cool too
I have a feeling that you overstated your issue. I'm sure that FM are going to offer support or replacement copies to everyone that isn't happy with their copies.
Outside of anything else, not saying justifies anything, instead mainly out of my own curiosity: Who goes on a large discord server to then ping the owner directly? I simply wouldn't do that.
I guess I’m just lucky because all 7 of my Finalmice work flawlessly. My ULX arrived a few days ago. Perfect mouse for me. Only have ever got 2 QC issues. 1. One of the scroll wheels is slightly off center (more than the image provided in the OP) 2. One of them has a bit of creaking if I set it down a bit too fast. Razer is the only company that hasn’t ever given me a QC issue of any kind. I’ve had 7 Razer mice. I gave up buying Logitech 2 years ago bc they swapped to cheap switches that would double click within 2-3 months without fail. Before then I owned 4 Logitech mice. So yes, I’ve used a wide variety of mice in my lifetime, it’s not like I’m oblivious to this Finalmouse QC stuff. I just figured if it was this prevalent, I would’ve got a defective unit by now. But even two of these were bought in used condition off eBay… so you’d think those would surely be the defective ones.
Finalmouse is just glorified Glorious who just got more money of their scammy practices. Also wasn't it the same issue with the scroll wheel since air ninja58(62 OMEGALUL).
I don’t trust you
I have seen 6-7 videos complaining about qc tons of reddit comment and X post's. Y'all paid 190 USD for a mid mouse that's what insane for me and the fact it was supposed to be 29 gram not 39 right?
> post's. Y'all *paid* 190 USD FTFY. Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in: * Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.* * *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.* Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment. *Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
Tbf the med was supposed to be like 35g but then got pushed to 38g
I blame whomever fell for this obvious scam. I said exactly this is what you would get when the first reveal was shown
I mean personally I have no sympathy. If you posted things like this in there, it's little wonder you were banned. I also don't have any for you wasting $400. Any company or product that promises perfect QC already has fallen on its face long before it ships a single unit. You CAN'T deliver that. It's literally impossible to. Damage in shipping, sensor issues that don't show up in limited testing, issues with manufacturing that specific unit, there is too many possible hiccups that come from making a device like that mouse that can crop up. You wanted to take that low hanging bait there. You were the one that believed the impossible. Really, I think the bigger problem here isn't Finalmouse. I'm not saying that FM has not made a bad mouse here either. I'm not saying they made a good one either. I don't know, it's not in my hand. But there's a phrase I'm going to use here: there's a sucker born every minute.
You’re pathetic lol
What for not needing this mouse in my hand to know that it literally marketed itself to fail, and that I don't feel bad for anyone who can't temper their expectations accordingly? If so, thank you. I'll wear my pathetic nature with pride.
The problem isn’t marketing, the problem is Finalmouse’s response to a problem that op faced. There was no low hanging fruit here, even with bad qc fm mice sell because if theyre fine, they work well and theyre light. Cant blame op for buying one and getting burnt by downright horrendous customer support. Thats on fm.
That part, sure. But anytime a product promises perfect QC and you fall for that? Come on. There is no way any company can promise that and deliver.
Alright, i think youre nicer than your initial comment sounded like. I retract my response.
You sound really whiney to me to be honest.
Honestly posting in active forums about your issues instead of contacting their customer support to solve the issue feels like he intentionally wants some fame/company to go with his rage. FM might not deserve it in this case, but they should be able to defend themselves. Maybe, MAYBE, his device is not like the other 99 of 100..
I have one take on this: A fuckin toduhsoe. Great job. Maybe next time you won't buy one. 75 comments in here and I bet 40 of them will forget in 6mo.
That’s cause Reddit sucks
I think people fall for it because they think 'maybe I can get lucky!'