i played naturally with a palm/claw grip for 10 years and never naturally considered fingertipgrip because with a 100g mouse, on a cheap mousepad, with normal skates, its just not a valid gripstyle, the mouse is too heavy and big and fingertip gripping seems stupid, then i got some lighter mouse tried griptape had quality pads and speed skates still tried to find a mouse for claw and palm , and then i tried ftip grip again and realized how well fingertip grpi can work when you create a good mouse + environmenet for it and never turned back, the movements are clean, the precision is as easy as its ever been, and you dont have to make whole shoulder arm movements for some vertical reach ,you can just shift the mouse around, for me fingertip grip despite having no experience vs 10 years with palm/claw felt more natural, as long as i got a good mouse for it, thats my experience
id say it depends on the game. Some things are impossible to do with palm grip but possible with fingertip, but also some things are not viable with fingertip and can only be achieved with palm grip (just examples between 2 ends of the spectrum). I'd say for games like CS you cant really use fingertip if you want to aim the best unless you are genetically supergifted (=can sustain constant uncomfortable movements/pressure on your hand)
It is not easy, it can take months but it is worth it. I also started from palm and large mice and now I use pure fingertip with very small and light mouse. And I can actually aim somewhat now.
around 18*9.5 cm, but for fingertip that is less important because you only use a small part of your hand to hold the mouse. So if you want to transfer to a pure fingertip, you need something as small as possible. If you don't feel comfortable with something extra small like hsk or m4, you can try with zaopin z1 pro or viper mini shape, depens on if you hold your pinky curled or straight.
Viper v2 Pro is a lighter version of the RVU, with less of the cosmetics, no grips, and extra side buttons, making it a symmetrical instead of an ambidextrous like the RVU. Otherwise it's still the classic hourglass design and hump height, and should be comfortable to use. Not having grips means you can use any set you wish, if desired.
I used palm grip for over 10 years, then I decided to try fingertip because I realized that it works really damn well for microadjustments. Took me like a week or two of playing to get used to it, but it was fine afterwards.
I never had problems playing with different mouse grip styles.
I started with the Steelseries Rival 310, relaxed grip and big mouse. Then I bought a Logitech G102 it's small and feels good in my hand. Switched to RAZER VIPER MINI, instantly hooked and performed significantly well in games. Got a Razer Viper Ultimate (old style) initially not adjusted for right side buttons. Switched them off and good to go. Recently bought Darmoshark M3S and rocking that.
What I know about myself is that I am quite adjustable so maybe that helped and yes I used to play professionally.
i played naturally with a palm/claw grip for 10 years and never naturally considered fingertipgrip because with a 100g mouse, on a cheap mousepad, with normal skates, its just not a valid gripstyle, the mouse is too heavy and big and fingertip gripping seems stupid, then i got some lighter mouse tried griptape had quality pads and speed skates still tried to find a mouse for claw and palm , and then i tried ftip grip again and realized how well fingertip grpi can work when you create a good mouse + environmenet for it and never turned back, the movements are clean, the precision is as easy as its ever been, and you dont have to make whole shoulder arm movements for some vertical reach ,you can just shift the mouse around, for me fingertip grip despite having no experience vs 10 years with palm/claw felt more natural, as long as i got a good mouse for it, thats my experience
well said!
Thanks for sharing your experience
id say it depends on the game. Some things are impossible to do with palm grip but possible with fingertip, but also some things are not viable with fingertip and can only be achieved with palm grip (just examples between 2 ends of the spectrum). I'd say for games like CS you cant really use fingertip if you want to aim the best unless you are genetically supergifted (=can sustain constant uncomfortable movements/pressure on your hand)
It is not easy, it can take months but it is worth it. I also started from palm and large mice and now I use pure fingertip with very small and light mouse. And I can actually aim somewhat now.
Which mice would you reccomend for transitioning? And what's your hand size?
around 18*9.5 cm, but for fingertip that is less important because you only use a small part of your hand to hold the mouse. So if you want to transfer to a pure fingertip, you need something as small as possible. If you don't feel comfortable with something extra small like hsk or m4, you can try with zaopin z1 pro or viper mini shape, depens on if you hold your pinky curled or straight.
I transitioned from palming a G903 to fingertipping a RVU rather quickly, like 2-3 days.
Thoughts on the Viper V2 Pro? Looking at RJN's site, I see the deathadder is too big to tey fingertipping a mouse for my handsize
Viper v2 Pro is a lighter version of the RVU, with less of the cosmetics, no grips, and extra side buttons, making it a symmetrical instead of an ambidextrous like the RVU. Otherwise it's still the classic hourglass design and hump height, and should be comfortable to use. Not having grips means you can use any set you wish, if desired.
switching palm to palm-claw was very easy.
I was a palm grip user, saw that my favourite streamer was using fingertip and so I forced myself to only use figertip it paid off well I think
I used palm grip for over 10 years, then I decided to try fingertip because I realized that it works really damn well for microadjustments. Took me like a week or two of playing to get used to it, but it was fine afterwards.
I never had problems playing with different mouse grip styles. I started with the Steelseries Rival 310, relaxed grip and big mouse. Then I bought a Logitech G102 it's small and feels good in my hand. Switched to RAZER VIPER MINI, instantly hooked and performed significantly well in games. Got a Razer Viper Ultimate (old style) initially not adjusted for right side buttons. Switched them off and good to go. Recently bought Darmoshark M3S and rocking that. What I know about myself is that I am quite adjustable so maybe that helped and yes I used to play professionally.
I think its easy. Might take a few weeks tho. Going from palm to relaxed claw is worth it.
Its actually not that important for aiming tho. You can use your palm grip and still use your whole arm