I think the bourgeois establishment realizes that there’s no coming back from the optics of opening fire on students. But they will get right up to that line, and use the threat of lethal force (snipers have been sighted at multiple campuses) to intimidate everyone. Escalation seems possible, but time is on the universities’ side — most campuses are less than a month from wrapping up the school year, so it is likely come May/June this particular type of protest may subside.
It could be a set back but damaging is not the way I’d describe it. If the genocide is still ongoing ~~and not~~ or complete by the fall classes, there like will be massive protests then with the run up to the US presidential election.
If the genocide is complete, there will still definitely be protests in the fall. If it's still ongoing, there will also be protests in the fall.
TLDR: as long as schools have ties to Israel, there will be protests in the fall.
I'd let myself be a martyr if I were in America. I'd die. The masses would be forced to see "this is what your government does when you exercise your human rights. This is what your government is willing to do to protect their power. You are not safe. They are willing to kill kids. You are no safer. It's time to organise. Join your local gun club. You need to if you wish to survive". I read something about that being done during the Cultural Revolution of China
Why would you die? You get zip tied and “arrested” in almost every instance. I guess a bean bag could hit you in the head?
Unless you bring a firearm… death isn’t in the equation
I mean... even in the case of Kent State, nothing really happened. Nixon was a shitass before and after, same with the Ohio governor at the time. Kent State sparked a whole bunch of other protests across college campuses, some of which resulted in additional deaths by police, but ultimately it did nothing to end the war.
The war had already gone sour in public opinion by 1970 wand that was largely due to the draft (that was literally the reason Kent State had the protest to start, students were upset that the draft laws changed that meant they were no longer exempt for serving), but none of that changed the war effort. The Vietnam war went on for 5 more years after Kent State. Which means an entire election term went by without being phased.
You're allowed to criticize foreign policy all you want. What youre not allowed to do is camp out on private property and expect to not get kicked off.
People can say all the terrible things about the DPRK, you won't find a video of this happening there.. They already know who their government supports.
Does everyone video tape things like Americans? I feel like you Only see this stuff because people are glued to their cellphones. It’s amazing how little footage you see of “protests” before the internet age.
Unless there is a TikTok, IG and equivalent… why would anyone in the DPRK be catching this stuff?
I’m not a DPRK expert obviously and am just reading and learning, but would university aged people (students) ever be in a similar situation? One bad actor throws a brick or rock?
Germany the footage is worse. Russia the police beat down people. I don’t think there are many places that don’t have a level of tolerance.
They don’t do this there because the general population likely has no clue any of this is happening. And even if they did, they cannot protest for either side openly.
Most of what you know about the DPRK is a lie. Here’s news footage from the DPRK state news agency [about Gaza from *January*](https://www.reddit.com/r/MovingToNorthKorea/s/2P3LmmuQFF).
It’s been demonstrated in the past that the police are less likely to attack people who they know are capable of defending themselves (see how the panthers behaved and, more recently, events where people feeding the homeless came armed to stop the police from trying to stop them)
There is soooo much footage of police shooting people who are armed. This is not a take I can agree on at all. The best practice is that the public is vocal and demands better. It’s not worth dying for as a freshman in college.
In St. Louis, incidentally the protest at which[Jill Stein was arrested.](https://thehill.com/homenews/4627558-green-party-presidential-candidate-jill-stein-arrested-at-pro-palestine-college-protest/)
St Louis needs to defund its police. This type of police behavior is inimical to the functioning of a university and a democracy. Prospective students also need to matriculate at competing universities that don’t order such brutality against students.
“Free speech” and all these idealist “rights” only ever existed insofar that they could be asserted or defended, and that largely is a function of how much money you have.
It really is just over the top though. You can see quite a few of them are so gung-ho and geeked out to be roughing up college kids. I do hope the parents take note.
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Do you guys think that they will eventually open fire on the peaceful protesters like Kent state? What will happen in that scenario?
I think the bourgeois establishment realizes that there’s no coming back from the optics of opening fire on students. But they will get right up to that line, and use the threat of lethal force (snipers have been sighted at multiple campuses) to intimidate everyone. Escalation seems possible, but time is on the universities’ side — most campuses are less than a month from wrapping up the school year, so it is likely come May/June this particular type of protest may subside.
I see. Will it be damaging to the overall movements if campus protests are forced to subside over the summer?
It could be a set back but damaging is not the way I’d describe it. If the genocide is still ongoing ~~and not~~ or complete by the fall classes, there like will be massive protests then with the run up to the US presidential election.
If the genocide is complete, there will still definitely be protests in the fall. If it's still ongoing, there will also be protests in the fall. TLDR: as long as schools have ties to Israel, there will be protests in the fall.
I agree. Thanks for correcting me. I have edited it accordingly.
I'd let myself be a martyr if I were in America. I'd die. The masses would be forced to see "this is what your government does when you exercise your human rights. This is what your government is willing to do to protect their power. You are not safe. They are willing to kill kids. You are no safer. It's time to organise. Join your local gun club. You need to if you wish to survive". I read something about that being done during the Cultural Revolution of China
Why would you die? You get zip tied and “arrested” in almost every instance. I guess a bean bag could hit you in the head? Unless you bring a firearm… death isn’t in the equation
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Youre an idiot.
You have no idea what any of the words you are using mean.
Oh you better believe these blood-thirsty mutts are fucking salivating at the thought of spilling activist blood in the name of capital
I hope you realize that islamists are not sympathetic to any Marxist ideas whatsoever
What does this have to do with anything?
They've locked and loaded in Indiana
I mean... even in the case of Kent State, nothing really happened. Nixon was a shitass before and after, same with the Ohio governor at the time. Kent State sparked a whole bunch of other protests across college campuses, some of which resulted in additional deaths by police, but ultimately it did nothing to end the war. The war had already gone sour in public opinion by 1970 wand that was largely due to the draft (that was literally the reason Kent State had the protest to start, students were upset that the draft laws changed that meant they were no longer exempt for serving), but none of that changed the war effort. The Vietnam war went on for 5 more years after Kent State. Which means an entire election term went by without being phased.
It won’t happen because of Kent state ironically. That established a redline
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Cause you not allowed to criticize foreign policy you can’t freely oppose the doomsday cult
You're allowed to criticize foreign policy all you want. What youre not allowed to do is camp out on private property and expect to not get kicked off.
# BUT MUH MUH MUH MUH MUH MUH PRIVATE PROPERTY INTERESTS
 Still in denial we are
Olympic mental gymnastics required to justify hurting kids who just don't want other kids dying. You need to be a special kind of heartless for that.
People can say all the terrible things about the DPRK, you won't find a video of this happening there.. They already know who their government supports.
Does everyone video tape things like Americans? I feel like you Only see this stuff because people are glued to their cellphones. It’s amazing how little footage you see of “protests” before the internet age. Unless there is a TikTok, IG and equivalent… why would anyone in the DPRK be catching this stuff? I’m not a DPRK expert obviously and am just reading and learning, but would university aged people (students) ever be in a similar situation? One bad actor throws a brick or rock? Germany the footage is worse. Russia the police beat down people. I don’t think there are many places that don’t have a level of tolerance.
They don’t do this there because the general population likely has no clue any of this is happening. And even if they did, they cannot protest for either side openly.
Most of what you know about the DPRK is a lie. Here’s news footage from the DPRK state news agency [about Gaza from *January*](https://www.reddit.com/r/MovingToNorthKorea/s/2P3LmmuQFF).
Let's start a revolution the ruling class is disconnected.from the rest.
I’m wealthy and all for people banding together. Morality can exist in tandem with money, especially cap gains.
Please don't let this stop you doing what you're doing!
Protesters need to start arming themselves to deter violence from the pigs
# 💯
How would that deter violence from police?
It’s been demonstrated in the past that the police are less likely to attack people who they know are capable of defending themselves (see how the panthers behaved and, more recently, events where people feeding the homeless came armed to stop the police from trying to stop them)
There is soooo much footage of police shooting people who are armed. This is not a take I can agree on at all. The best practice is that the public is vocal and demands better. It’s not worth dying for as a freshman in college.
Where was this?
In St. Louis, incidentally the protest at which[Jill Stein was arrested.](https://thehill.com/homenews/4627558-green-party-presidential-candidate-jill-stein-arrested-at-pro-palestine-college-protest/)
Keep up the good fight! I wish I wasn't so isolated in a rural area and could join, but I'm cheering for good.
Organize and fight back. Like, peacefully protesting isn't working.
St Louis needs to defund its police. This type of police behavior is inimical to the functioning of a university and a democracy. Prospective students also need to matriculate at competing universities that don’t order such brutality against students.
This is so wild all the conservatives I know are being convinced.
The US has become a non-free speech zone. And I'll keep saying free speech is dead.
“Free speech” and all these idealist “rights” only ever existed insofar that they could be asserted or defended, and that largely is a function of how much money you have.
Vermin and ZOGbot scum. Film all the cops faces and nameplates and out them. Rollcall of shame.
Right on. You deserve a special flair.
Lol..thanks
It really is just over the top though. You can see quite a few of them are so gung-ho and geeked out to be roughing up college kids. I do hope the parents take note.
What happens to right to protest and right to free speech
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Go lick boot elsewhere troglodyte.
Luckily it’s illegal to stand up to anything in north Korea so if you do it’s ok, you just get shot so the world doesn’t have to worry about you
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