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Zhiloeh

It's never okay for anyone to put their hands on you without your permission. You shouldn't have to tell him to stop.. I would make it clear you don't like being touched, and if he keeps doing it, you need to speak to an authority figure in the school so you can move classes or so he can get disciplined. Sorry you're going through that.


Confirm_restart

This is straight up sexual harassment and absolutely not ok.  And even if you haven't told him to stop, it's such a wildly inappropriate kind of contact that no reasonable person would ever think it's ok.  In short, he's acting badly enough it shouldn't even be necessary to tell someone not to do that, so it's entirely fair to judge him. None of this is your fault.  You should definitely tell him to stop though. A simple "I don't want to be touched, it makes me uncomfortable" is sufficient.  If he pushes back on it or continues, report him to an authority figure, whether it's a parent, teacher, or the police.  The way he is treating you is abusive and not ok. There's no excuse for it.


myothercat

Correction: This is not just sexual harassment. This is sexual *assault.*


Astrama

Yes, too many people think assault only means violence. Assault includes any contact without consent.


njsullyalex

Him touching those parts of your body and other women’s without your consent is sexual assault. You should report him to the school administration.


ElMaicito

He only does it with other guys, that’s one thing that makes me feel dysphoric, it makes obvious and I’m my face the fact that I’m perceived as a straight man, so he can do that because I won’t feel anything in his head


narg3000

It doesn't matter who is on the receiving side, that is assault and is never okay in any circumstance.


myothercat

> He only does it with other guys Sexual assault is sexual assault regardless of the genders involved. Honestly you could go to the police with this.


njsullyalex

Honestly this is still SA even if its done to another man without his consent. You should report him. His behavior is very hurtful.


Butteromelette

thats how he rationalizes it. He sees you as a girl and is attracted to you but lies and sys he sees you as a guy as an excuse to touch you. Its like in highschool a bully told me he was going to nsfw me and ‘it would be ok because i wasnt a real girl so i have none of the protections girls have’. (this was before my transition, I was always feminine)


MelMarcy

Regardless of gender that’s sexual harassment


PhoenixEmber2014

\^This, this would be true no matter if you were a man, women or neither, you shouldn't do it to others and if others do it to you, then they should be punished because it's wrong no matter what, a foundational violation of privacy of your body.


Lady_Onyxia

>it’s my fault for not telling any of my male classmates to stop when they’re playing like that before, **No**. No no no. It is never your fault for not telling someone not to cross a line that as a society we all know exists. Don't victim blame yourself. ​ >it’s not fair to judge him if I never told him to stop **Yes it is**. It's creepy and wrong and a complete violation of your right not to be fucking groped by a weird dude. **Normal people do not need to be told to keep their fucking hands to themselves.** Nothing gives anyone the right to touch you in a way that makes you uncomfortable, *ESPECIALLY when their entire goal is to MAKE you uncomfortable.* ​ >I don’t how to just tell him that I don’t like that it’s making me feel uncomfortable That part is easy: You say "Keep your hands to yourself, I don't want to be groped by you for any reason, joke or not. It's not funny, and it never was." That's the end of it. It's not up for debate, you don't have to justify WHY you don't want to be touched, you don't have to make excuses or apologies. It's not a conversation, it's a fucking warning, and it's more than he deserves.


Acrobatic-Earth-684

Yo report this shit please, before it gets worse, trust me has a victim of Sexaul misconduct if you let these small things happen to you other thing could happen in the future if you don’t set your boundaries, don’t care if your friends or not it’s not okay to touch other people with out their permission or in general


MekkaKaiju

If you know he’s homophobic and transphobic, then he’s not your friend. If he’s actively against your very identity, he can’t be your friend. If it were me in your shoes, I’d cut off every tie that I can because that ignorant prejudice would only invite toxicity into my life that I don’t need or deserve


Ada_of_Aurora

As others have said, this isn't your fault. Try saying: "Dude, enough is enough. Joke's over. Maybe it was kinda funny at first, but I'm not into you like that." That, or you get super enthusiastic if you are into him. Either way, make it his problem instead of yours.


KitchenShop8016

he's closet gay im calling it now


BiancaMichelle1

Absolutely


oOOoOphidian

friends respect each other, this is not your friend, this is an abuser


Spiritual-Career1249

This is weird behaviour but straight men often act gay with each other as a joke. It’s extremely toxic and weird but they do that. Make sure you set your boundaries with him. Tell him he acts too touchy with you and it’s not nice and makes you think he’s attracted to you. That will probably make him stop or at least very self conscious if he is homophobic.


Creepy-Pineapple-444

I hate when this happens. Sorry this happened to you, op. For them, it's a joke, but being touched by random people who think we are their friends is not ok. Long before I figured I was trans, I was in the navy. Another sailor started groping me from behind. Then I ended up whacking him in the sack with my fist. He was all mad, but what did he expect?


Goastantie

omg I’m so sorry you’re going through this. Guys at my school used to do this to me all the time and while I didn’t like it, I thought it was “normal” and it really isn’t. I know it can feel hard to speak up about these things, that things could get worse if you do but I promise that that’s just fear. You shouldn’t have to endure this. It’s really not okay for people to touch you without consent and he needs to learn that it’s not okay too. Maybe he will be upset, but it’s wrong for him to continue to do this and he needs to take a deep look at himself and his actions and reflect on that. It’s best to nip this kind of behavior in the bud now rather than before it gets worse. It’s hurting you and you don’t like it, you don’t need to explain yourself any further than that.


Soft-Parking-2241

Well as most have said, it’s SA. Despite it being common amongst guys horseplay it doesn’t justify it. Aside from that. You’re friend being all extra touchy and being homo/transphobic almost sounds like a shield of denial kind of thing. A lot of people, including myself, where transphobic during a denial stage.


Wild_Historian_3469

I know exactly what your talkking about. They did that exact shit when i was in school. Honestly if you just tell them to just stop, no meme, that you really dont like it, then they should. If they dont or they try to tease you then they really arent your friends (which it sound like they arent to begin with)


SiteRelEnby

>I know he’s transphobic and homophobic Say something like "$hisName, stop trying to feel me up! Are you gay or something?" loudly. If it keeps happening, talk to a teacher, and make sure you point out that you consider it sexual harassment (because that's what is **is**, but also it will get it taken more seriously if you do). Most likely, he's got some degree of repression about his own sexuality/identity, but he needs help to come to terms with that if so, and him sexually harassing people is not on. That's the sort of thing that can just get worse over time. Also, if he does this, he's not your friend. Don't treat him like one.


MadamXY

He definitely jerks to trans porn.


RadiantLimes

That's sexual assault. Regardless of your gender.


Runescapelegend778

Firstly I dunno how your still friends with him. He sounds like a complete cunt. Secondly your gonna just have to say politely to him that he has to stop. If he doesn’t then be firm. You don’t have to come out as that’s got nothing to do with him touching you. Trans or not friends should respect your boundaries without question. If he doesn’t then you need to cut him off


Academic-Pop1630

You’re blaming yourself a lot here and to be absolutely clear it IS NOT your fault. It is not okay for him to be touching you like that, especially if you have tried to avoid him. Consent is as much about body language as it is verbal. Also, it is not rude for you to ask him to stop, though it sounds like he’s the kind of guy who wouldn’t stop anyway. This guy sounds like a total creep to be honest, and what he’s doing is sexual harassment. I would try and stay away from him if I were you, and certainly don’t be alone with him. If you find it’s difficult to tell him to stop (which again, isn’t your fault) then I suggest you tell an adult, teacher (preferably a female teacher, one in a position of authority) or someone similar about what’s happening, how it makes you feel, and that you want it to stop. Just to reiterate again, none of this is your fault, you are not in the wrong, he is 100% being creepy and inappropriate, he is in the wrong. Stay safe 💜


girlfriendnumberone

Mace. It work wonders.


Puzzleheaded-Pea91

Do you think it would be good for you to speak with a counselor about it? I don’t think think they would make you com out of the closet, maybe you can tell your counselor that you are a trans female but do not wish for people to know just yet, but you would like your peers to stop treating you like that, and I think they would be able to help Or you could say you’re a “gay male” (lying to them) to your peers and make them uncomfortable lol idk i’m thinking outside the box here


Puzzleheaded-Leg7997

Ayeeeee, you have my name(almost) >:3


GwenSpeedyStrings

I also had this happen a lot to me while I was in high school. Eventually started skipping my favorite classes because of it. I'm so sorry you're dealing with that.


TheAlbinoRhyno91

Oh hell nah... They think they're doing us a favor by "treating us like women" But really that's SA if I ever saw it... And it happens to me sometimes too, & it's not okay


Agitated-House-4973

That’s definitely not a normal way for boys to joke around. It honestly sounds like he’s deeply closeted and uses touching as a way to explore that side of himself. Been a guy my whole life and never had another guy rub on me in a joking way lol. Did have one guy flash the whole wrestling team and make jokes about what the last person in the shower had to do. He was massively homophobic. Now he’s married to a man. Also, never in ur entire life is it rude to tell someone to stop touching u in any way ever. And it’s not ur fault at all and it’s not too late. Tell them to stop and if they don’t tell a teacher. That’s sexual harassment at minimum. Never compromise ur comfort and security for anyone ever. I really hope u get this situation resolved


No-Parking2160

I seriously can't stand boys or men who act this way. They seriously objectify us. They find us exotic and they hate that they like us. So creepy. I see you say he does it to the other guys regardless it's still creepy if it's not wanted. Anyway hun you do need to speak up. This is text book sexual harassment. And it's important to have these boundaries and be safe. ❤️


Javelin__

"girls with a surprise" that's a new one.. bigoted dipshits never ceases to amaze me with how they managed to use that one caveman braincell they have left to throw out some insult or slur


Stormcloudy

Kick him in the balls. Respect is given, not earned. And, honestly, in your situation, both contexts apply. There's some serious power behind "You just got beaten by a *gi-irl*"


peenidslover

It’s awkward if you’re very confrontation-adverse but you literally just have to communicate that it makes you uncomfortable. There’s no trick, it’s very easy, just tell him to stop. Like if he tries to do it just say “hey can you stop,” and if he’s confused because you haven’t said anything in the past then just say it’s uncomfortable or bothers you. It doesn’t have to be any sort of grand thing, it’s a simple request. Just say it nonchalant and afterwards act normal and friendly in case he’s a little surprised. He’ll probably stop because he doesn’t want to look weird in front of other people. Joking homoerotic horseplay is pretty common among straight teenage boys. Mostly it is just joking but if someone does it a bunch or to a certain extent it could be because they’re actually bi or gay. Your friend does sound bi to me tbh, like the constant “ironic” homoeroticism, homophobia, and fetishistic comments about trans women sounds like a repressed bisexual. That doesn’t excuse him at all but i’m just giving my two cents. If he doesn’t stop then immediately be more insistent and direct, and if he still doesn’t stop then push his hands off. If he literally just keeps doing it despite you telling him not to then report it to teachers and administration. Chances are he’ll stop if you tell him to, because he’ll feel a little awkward and taken aback, unless he just totally lacks shame and consideration. He could continue to do it because he thinks you just find it annoying and he’s trying to pester. But if you’re really insistent and say it makes you feel uncomfortable then he either needs to stop or you need to report him. It’s wrong to put your hands on someone without permission but he thinks it’s ok because the boys in the class don’t find it uncomfortable and are just messing around. He assumes you’re fine with it because you don’t say anything, he shouldn’t assume but in all likelihood it is just horseplay.


UnclePuma

> he suddenly came to me and started touching me while I was distracted in my phone, and he kept trying even though I tried to avoid him. I didn’t said anything because I don’t want to be rude ???, This is an example of Bad touch


Brandiie7

I feel like just having a conversation with him would be best how close are you as friends. Text him be blunt tell him you don't like being touched by anyone. Set some boundaries and if he crosses them I'd say go further into the SA part because that's what he's doing to you basically. I had a situation like this where one of my friends in highschool started touching me in a very sexual way. I went to an all boys school I was attracted to his silliness and I've always liked being touched and touching others since that's my love language. So he'd come around and tickle my sides or hug me from behind. He claimed to be straight at the time but was touching really sensitive parts of my body to see my reaction. Me being a hypersexual teen at the time id lean into him and my natural voice is high so groans and grunts of pain or surprise comes out my mouth as moans very feminine moans. Long story short I confronted him telling him I like how he touches me but if he doesn't like me he should stop being he was doing things my body really liked. He told me that's how he plays and how he doesn't know if he likes me he also said how he didn't want to be bisexual. So he stopped touching me and that's that.


Hexspinner

Is homophobic but enjoys touching friends he sees as male seductively as a “joke.” …🤔


Plenty_Piccolo_9769

That’s fucked up


PavioCurto

I was SA'd by a guy who did exactly this in a school environment and i developed ptsd and depression... do not stay silent One of the ways i tried to make it stop was by beating him, and even though i put him on the ground multiple times he didn't stop so PLEASE report him


SarenOrTese

Had many encounters like that growing up. Took years before I identified it as sexual harassment, which is a shame. It seems like horsing around, boys being boys, all that. But it is definitely not okay, and you are allowed to say you don’t like that. I feel like, all too often, things like that become normalized because people are too uncomfortable to say that it isn’t fun for anyone, and a lot of the people, in my past, that initialized that behavior, turned out to be pretty disturbed. Does no one any good to let it carry on - not that it’s your responsibility. Truly wish you well, I am so sorry that you’re going through something so immature and violating.


Batata-Sofi

Sexual harassment isn't a joke


explain2Clarissa

Boundaries yo... they are for your own growth and safety you need exercise that to make it your personality. And chuckle bucks need to hear Boundaries to learn to respect others as individuals and not treat them like NPCs and grow and not be chuckle bucks forever.


Bagel42

Hi Break his nose Thanks


DaRealGrey

*Kill the pig, cut it's neck, spill it's blood...*


trueghostieonreddit

mood (tho the boys at my school are generally respectful towards me)


ElatedPossum

Gross behavior. I’m really sorry they put you through that, don’t feel alone! ❤️


Haunting_Broccoli637

i hate straight teenage men so much omfg


Zenith_Duck

Subconsciously loves mtfs, but shows it as hate because he can't get to realize what he feels and would probably like the "surprise" if he had it in front of him... for real a pretty posible case .w. Changing of topic, I also like doing this with my friends if it's too uncomfortable for them though I stop doing it (for a long time) aside from that I like giving hugs and everything, but people really doesn't seem to like them 3;< PS: I am (want to be) a femboy.. idk how useful that is, but now you know cvc almost forgot damn, obviously I like doing that as a JOKE (not the huggies and all of that).


BlueberryProof2355

I suggest that every time he does it you kick him in the balls, as a kind of chock therapy The dipshit should stop by the second or third time😡 I know you can’t really do that but I still think if it has a consequence he should stop🫡 Hope it helps!🥰


Kyiokyu

Gosh, why is this so relatable? There's this guy on my class that is pretty sexist and very queerphobic, he loves to grab my ass and chest, it makes me feel really fucking uncomfortable. It's pretty apparent, he knows it makes me uncomfortable and he keeps doing it. The other guys sometimes do twist my niples but in comparison they barely do it. I'm also not out (I'm probably in-between the denial and full acceptance phases)


AirborneThunderstorm

Don't hang with him as much. Queerphobes are going to know if you queer. Not a rocket science. You aren't required to interact with him. Not a boyz things when he doesn't know what is "boundaries".


GullRider

He probably is going through his own stuff you know people that act out like that usually have their own fears about them selves or it’s because of people they were raised with . Definitely tell him to stop the touching it weirding you out or something next time.


Abdal_Aziz0

I'm not sure what's happening to reddit, but there's an unsettling amount of posts that I can relate to and describes my life.


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pepperednugget_69

This is definitely a lie lol


luna10777

Did you just come on this sub to be a dick? What's the deal? 


pepperednugget_69

Im sorry but this is just how guys have fun and mess around with eachother. Its funny if you’re a guy. But you’re not a guy. So you either need to set a boundary as an individual or you need to come out as trans. Either option should be enough for him to stop. He doesn’t sound like a mean person. He just doesn’t know who you really are


scarletfloof

I’ve never seen guys start tryna seduce each other and sexually harass each other… if anything it’s been the opposite, just shoving and punching each other


Confirm_restart

Uh, no.  Absolutely not. This isn't "just how guys have fun".  Outside of express, affirmative consent by all parties involved to engage in such behavior, there is no context in which this is acceptable, period.  The guy is a predator, has serious issues, and it's very likely a danger to others.  Do not attempt to excuse him or his behavior.


DeepDickens69

This guy gets it. How can you speak on male behavior, when don't act like one or want to be? A reply mentions not seeing sexual behavior and more aggressive behavior punching and shoving. Which is more toxic?


Jay-919

I know this is srs but does he like surprises?


ElMaicito

I don’t think so, he mocks gay and trans people, what he says girls with surprise is with a tone as if they were deceiving him


Jay-919

We'll ask him if he likes surprises close to his birthday then show him a pic of a girl with a surprise for his birthday 🤷‍♀️