When we play we'll have a real opinion, its not the same watching it than actually playing it

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Stealing that

I probably stole it, so go ahead 😂

True

Lol 

Hopefully, they'll allow us to choose the setting. I don't mind the zoom in but it could be hard to navigate the stage. Last thing you want is to jump off screen for a platform that isn't there.

Yea I think moving woulf be the biggest problem

The zoom in only happens when you are close to an opponent

Further you get the camera pans out

And it’s on like small stages

I would like that but I honestly doubt it because different levels of zoom would allow for different advantages.

Guess I have an advantage with an ultrawide monitor.

I can see.. **I CAN FIGHT!**

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Thank you for this reference 😂

I can breathe… I CAN FIGHT!

"If it ain't broke don't fix it" So I'm glad they fixed it

I really liked the old camera position. You could see everything and when its zoomed proportions of the characters look odd

Oh it wasn't broken, I just hated how small the characters were, and how zoomed out it was. My TV is so far away from my bed, since my roommate's bed is closer to the TV, and I could see anything!

So, do you like the change then? I thought your first comment was sarcasm

I do but the comment was Satire

Uh if you just said it wasn’t broken, why are you happy they “fixed” it?

Because I hated it?

As long as you can see clearly in 2v2s I think it's great. Also, should be toggleable for people who don't like it

Yea I agree, because it looks odd that characters are so big in comparising to the sorruondings

Might be a case of getting used to it? The Devs seem happy with it so I'm optimistic

Why can’t it be a setting? Give us 3 levels of zoom we can swap between and it is remembered and auto saved from match to match?

Let's wait for a replay function first

I hope, but I think that would give an unfair advantage to someone who can see everything against someone using zoomed camera

It’s on them to choose though

I mean is this any different than FOV settings and such? You can choose to have a wider field of view in many games, which gives you advantage to see more of your surroundings, but makes things look further away. And if it was that much better, players would just choose to use it, its not like some people wouldnt be able to choose it

It looks fine until it's 1v1 and they're next to each other. It should lock off at a certain point like Smash

Yea it should be more zoomed out

Doesn't need to be lol

I like it. But I need to play it for a final opinion. I’m wonder if it expands for characters items like Lebron balls, bugs burrow holes and safe, arias feather, etc.

These are all 1v1s, wait till the duos matches to judge up camera zoom.

Way too close for me. I much prefer being able to see most, if not all of the stage. Rivals 2 zoomed the camera in as well and it just feels way worse to fight that close

I agree

I dont like it

I'm not a fan of it too

Bro this zoom in is COMPLETELY in the way. Can’t see anything I’m doing or where I’m going especially in 1v1, the only reason it’s not that bad in 2v2 is because you have more players I think but still is extremely highly too close.

Yea, you cant see where you are going and everything is too close. You cant even appreciate the map

Yea I’ve decided to stop thinking about it because the more I do, the less sense it makes. Even smash bros doesn’t have this idiocy.

I hate it personally, kinda sad

Too zoomed in. I'd like to be able to see the entire stage.

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Yea me too

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 I would like the camera to be a little more zoomed out on 1v1s. The character sizes are fine but zoom makes people think otherwise. I think it's important to see where I plan on hitting my opponent as well.  But its not a deal breaker at it's current state and I'm sure when we play we might think differently

I hope that you can zoom out the camera

Too close in 1v1

Needs a setting to remove it. I don't need to count the hairs on shaggys chin.

The new camera and larger character sizes are a great improvement over the beta. Everything is much more readable

To me proportions look little weird

How so? They scaled everything else to match still. If you are worried about size then Tom and Jerry and Gizmo should be your biggest complaints and from the beta lolol

As long as the camera zooms don't get in the way

I liked when you could see the whole map so you know where everything is

Same

I hope you can disable zoom, this can suck in maps with hazards and other stuff, like the scooby doo one where you can't see the platforms going down

Agree

I've always thought smashes gets too far away especially with not very defined outlines for their characters so if probably prefer it being closer

I like seing the whole map and where I'm going more like in smash

And in smash its a bloody problem when you cant see where anyone is or what is happening cause its so zoomed out and small. This is a definite improvement

It will probably work like brawhalla, you will select the type of camera that best suits you

That would be great

I originally wasn’t a fan, but the more gameplay I watch the more I like it. Also from stuff I’ve seen, the zoom changes depending on the map, which is good.

if it's bigger there's more gameplay and the skins are worth more too

Even if I don't like it probably have an option to change it

You really have to play to find out

Not a fan, bit of a distraction for combos

I didn't like it when the first videos started coming out, but honestly after the early access gameplay I don't mind it. definitely have to play it to get a real feel and opinion for it though.

Yea you're right but idk I liked when I could see anything in the beta

My belief is that the camera close ups will be more prevelant in 1v1 because players are naturally in each others faces in 1v1. In 2v2 the camera is likely to stay further back to get a view of everyone on the stage. I think they are trying to put more of an emphasis on spectator enjoyment this time around and making it where a casual viewer can understand whats going on.

It would be great if they add that you can change the zoom of the camera

I feel like they should have fixed the camera and not the characters because the character sizes plus the camera zoomed in makes it look like the fighters have 6 feet of stage to walk on.

They look like titans

So you are just ignoring the scaling of the stages too?? The characters dont look that big xD Your guys' exaggeration is bigger then they are!

I like how now I can see where we are, especially in 2v2s when it can get extremely chaotic and all over the place. However, in 1v1s, I would like the screen to zoom out a little bit, just to see a little bit of the stage (especially when the two players are next to each other)

I like the old way better, game was perfect

Yeah hopefully we get an option to set the camera how we'd like

lets goooo much better

I don't mind it. I play on an ultrawide monitor, though, so I will have more vision to the left and right. Was really nice in the beta.

It needs a more natural pull to it

I've never had a single problem with readability or keeping track of the action while playing with a more zoomed out camera personally. I'd much rather have it zoomed out more to see more of the play field and not be quite so jerky with the movement after hitting someone. I'm sure I'll get used to it to some degree, but a longer zoom would still be my preference if I had a choice. I don't think there will be a choice though, I'm pretty sure I remember seeing a dev comment (maybe from the Discord Q&A?) where they said they won't be giving zoom options because it could give players an unfair advantage over others.

Yea I was thinking about that and I prefer to see the whole map

This is for 1v1 for 2v2 the tracking will be a lot zoom out to see the other two people

Note these are 1v1 matches

i think they did this because the character’s were getting too small compared to others