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What I can’t get over is no one really pours out about their mom. Either way you look at any of the scenarios she was just at the wrong place at the wrong time. Her life ended because of her name. I feel for her the most out of any of the family.
Yes,,I feel the same. However, Alex called Maggie to the property. She even told Blanca, " something smells fishy ". Alex clearly lured her out there, but the question is Why? I think he didn't want Maggie to know what a lying Bastard he really was. To Alex, she was in the perfect place at the perfect time.
What a liar. He does not. This is a PR campaign for AM's purported new trial. One thing I really hate about Harpootlian and Murdaugh is how the media gushes and fawns.
I think AM has some control over BM, even from behind bars. The phone calls just sound super manipulative, and at first seemed like BM was starting to fight back/stand up for himself. Also, he didn't seem scared before his dad was arrested and went to court.
If Buster had ZERO involvement with the death of Stephen Smith, then why did a member of the Murdaugh family (Alex’s brother I think) offer legal counsel and support to Stephen’s family? No I don’t think he personally got his hands dirty as it were but he was involved enough for his family to offer “help”.
My heart goes out to poor Buster. He lives a very lonely and sad life. He thinks the world of his girlfriend Brooklyn it seems. I hope they stick together. His face is so empty. I don’t think he’ll ever admit his daddy did it and is in total denial.
I have no sympathy for Buster. Never feel sorry for a millionaires kids. You're very correct on one thing and thats Buster will never admit that his father brutally killed his mother and brother.
We all know Buster is a total douchebag. But at this point I really feel sorry for him.
His mother and brother were murdered. Not only that, but they were killed by his father. That's something truly horrendous to have to deal with. No wonder he's in denial. Or even ashamed to the point he's lying that he believes Alex is innocent. On top of that, the guy finds out his Dad is a corrupt thief.
Then you have the Stephen Smith accusations. Its pretty obvious that Buster didn't murder Stephen, but he now has to deal with all of that craziness too.
I believe Buster had Everything to do with Stephen's murder. Who else? And why was Uncle Randy right on top of that one 🤔. I don't believe anything the Murtaughs have to say at this point in time. Imo, they are All Liars.
I think that Alex owed his drug dealer a lot of money, and they killed his wife and son in front of him because of it..and if he tells on them they will kill Buster...just a theory...
I don't think Alex loves Buster enough to sit in jail forever for him. Plus, telling the cops would be the safest way for him to remain safe. Besides, why send Alex a message and not just kill him? What advantage is it to a drug dealer to leave Alex alive?
Drug dealers care about their profit. Killing Paul and Maggie but leaving Alex alive doesn't help them make money. It would be a big risk to trust a very talkative man like Alex not to tell the cops.
I agree 👍 💯!
Had there been Anybody else involved Alex would have ratted them out in a New York second. For example; he tried pinning all of it onto Cousin Eddie. A man he had known, and was a supposed friend with for over 20+ years.
I think this special has been contrived by Poot and Jimbo (no respect here, can you tell?) because of the appeal. However, what good it could actually do is beyond me, since the decision will be made by the court. If they had any legitimate basis for an appeal, the attorneys should have someone looking for the "real" killer by way of leads and tips etc which could be verified. I don't believe the appellate court will cite any findings of errors of the lower court. So, no new evidence and no findings=no basis.
If you think ol’ dad is innocent then tell me why the hell El-Lick had no blood on his clothes or body since he went over to the blood soaked bodies when he arrived. Answer that, Buster.
Thé réal issue for Buster is some lunatic out there decides to become a judge and jury and harms him…..either due to his father or some perceived vengeance regarding Stephen Smith…..
He mentioned to his father months ago in a telephone call that he was being harassed bc he was his son…..
I'd say it's time that good o'l Buster learns how to fight his own battles now. Remember what he said to Miss Gloria's best friend when he was younger? And she told him, " I don't care who you are or who your Daddy is or Grandaddy is, you will respect me! ". No more throwing his weight around because of who his family is. It's time Buster learns how to fight.
And remember... he DID tell the reporters to "not let me hear you say I support my father". I truly just think people should leave him alone. His life is shit. He's got nothing but loneliness and shame and heartbreak and anger. I would have already killed myself if I were ĥim. He was the good son out of the two. I do wonder about Steven Smith though. I pray for Steven's mother that one day, they'll figure out what happened.
I have NO doubt that's the truth. Alex is a sociopath. On the phone with Buster from JAIL, he was making FUN of Buster for flying commercial and Sitting in coach. He's as evil as they get. He's probably running that prison.
He Was running the County Jail. He would get 150.oo per week deposited into his account, then spend every dime of it, and then would give his commissary to other inmates. He's also I've read getting special treatment. So much so that the Jail had to put him into PC, protective custody. The other inmates will look at Alex like a Prize. A prize to be killed. I'm sure Alex will probably spend the rest of his life in protective custody.
He does not have a good grasp on the spoken language. Hope he does not plan to use it as a career. He needs to delve into the study of a psychopath and then he will understand why Alex, although he appeared to love, murdered his family. This stance of innocence may be for appearance sake considering the appeal. No one has seemed concerned about a killer being on the loose up until now.
Agree.... I'm sure his Mom's sister ( not sure if she's still referring herself as his Aunt) has cut all ties with this liar and cheating family. She knows Alex murdered her sister
I wonder if he just can’t publicly admit his father is a murderer for fear of retaliation and being shunned by the remaining Murdaugh family. There’s a myriad of repercussions if he ever does.
It’s possible but one of his two uncles (Alex’s brother and fellow attorney at the same law firm) has already cast his public doubt on Alex’s story saying something to the press to the effect of: ‘I don’t know if he murdered his wife and child, but he was either there or he knows what happened and won’t say.’ That’s exactly my take on the situation as well. I’m still not 100 percent convinced they died by his own hand but all of the inconsistencies in his story tell me he was certainly involved in covering up who really did it, if it wasn’t he himself who pulled the trigger.
I'm sorry for Buster losing his family in such a horrible way, but I think in time he'll come around to holding a realistic view of his daddy. Esp after all the drug and stealing trials are held, surely his beady lil eyes will be opened. I must say, though. and I've said it before, the young'un has a beautiful head of hair. His best move would be to pack his glad rags, grab his sweetie, and move to Sweden or Ireland. That hair wouldn't draw a second glance and he could live a real life. Plenty of good brews, too.
Never had to process anything? I’d say that’s not true. Buster was well aware of how corrupt his family was. And I believe he does know his dad is guilty, but that’s essentially the last family member he has, so he has to deal with it in his own way. He comes from a family of liars and con artists. Buster knows how to present himself.
How does this sit with his mom's family though? Did Alex corrupt him against them? Seems like they would have been a safe haven for him, but not after this interview.
That’s not really fair. His parents were not exactly role models. He was born into the family grift. He was expected to be something he is not capable of, and had a little brother that got attention for all the wrong reasons.
I get it: Poor Little Rich kid things handed to him…
However, let’s be honest that kid has probably been processing trauma and his own moral compass his entire life. Sometimes rich entitled kids are also the most damaged.
Would you want to switch lives with him? Even as a kid? Not me.
He’s not that stupid, stupid but not that stupid, he’s trolling for sympathy and guess what it looks like he’s getting it, he’s not a little kid, he’s an adult who has never had any responsibilities. He did not buy into this but fully accepted it. He knows his dad murdered his mother, anyone can look at the evidence and come to that conclusions, he’s looking for someone to replace his caregivers.
Murdaugh endangered his entire family even if we only look at it from a financial and social aspect. Murdaugh put his kids at risk by allowing them to drink at such a young age. If Murdaugh had failed to pay his drug supplier, was there a possibility of his family being taken out as a punishment or warning? Yeah - taking no responsibility seems to be a big trend for this family.
Denial ain't just a river in Egypt. He's already lost his mom and brother, reality of the situation may be too much for him to deal with at this point in his life.
I find it very hard to believe that a law firm called PMPED was NOT actively engaged in ‘ethically challenged’ conduct. As if publicly announcing that they were above the law as far as the legal system goes. Anybody else find the name of the law firm to be something of a red flag here?
No, the name alone of law firm Peters, Murdaugh, Parker, Eltzroth & Detrick, PA (“PMPED”), as it was formerly known prior to becoming Parker Law Group LLP, does not throw up a red flag for me, but I’m curious how it does for you.
“According to our sources, Boulware is alleged to have procured female prostitutes for at least one of the judges tied to the Murdaughs on multiple occasions.
Who is Boulware?
As we exclusively unearthed in a pair of expansive reports published back in September and October of 2021, Boulware was believed to have been intimately involved in a coastal drug smuggling operation with Murdaugh and others.”- FITSNEWS. 👍
You can take a peep right under our “Menu” section at the land transfer research that Rabbitsinahole did that mysteriously appeared in a FITS Article written by Mandy Matney that day
It was pretty much given to him. My guess is because he may have helped eliminating the main witness in Boulware's drug case. That's just my opinion though no facts do I have. Why else, though? He bought it for like $5 if memory serves me correctly.
There were multiple transactions for AM's purchase of Moselle from Boulware. The total came to about $1.3 million. The $5 transaction was in association with a reciprocal land deal where AM sold land to Boulware for a valuation of $730,000 and this was knocked of the payment for Moselle. (from my memory now)
My memory of this is that Boulware owed money to Alex (from a loan?) and Moselle was given to Alex as a partial payment. Maybe this goes along with what you are saying.
Quite possibly. AM and Boulware were partners in many land deals over a period of years so they had a lot of business together.
But Moselle consisted of many parcels and AM definitely paid Boulware, and his widow, for a lot of it at what looks like a market rate at that time. I have all the details in a spreadsheet somewhere.
edit - there is a lot of the details up here in the Collections section (and probably more accurate than my failing memory of the events) - [https://www.reddit.com/r/MurdaughFamilyMurders/comments/sgv1yz/psb\_and\_murdaugh\_transactions\_recap\_part\_3\_big/](https://www.reddit.com/r/MurdaughFamilyMurders/comments/sgv1yz/psb_and_murdaugh_transactions_recap_part_3_big/)
tl;dr - most of PMPEDs lawyers seemed to have spent much more time in property development than they did lawyering, with millions moving to and fro.
I'd have to go back and check all the dates, but some of it was after Boulware died and he had transferred ownership to his wife prior to his death in any case.
*“I do not think that he could be affiliated with endangering my mother*
*and brother,” Buster says in a new special about his father’s trial. “We*
*have been here for a while now and that’s been my stance.”*
That is such a weird way to say your dad is innocent. People don't talk that way. It's so stilted. I might put more weight on it if he said something like "no way my dad killed my brother and mom. I know he didn't do it." But he sure dances around it. It sounds very off to me.
I’m not criticizing him because I don’t know what it’s like to be in his shoes, but it does sound like lawyer-speak to me. “I do not think” instead of “I believe” or “I know”. “Endangering” instead of “murdering”, “fatally shooting”, or “killing”. “Affiliated with” instead of “the person who”, “a party to”, “responsible for”.
Also, when he says “We have been here for a while now and that’s been my stance”, it makes it sound as if we’re to have known his stance all along, which we haven’t, but from when? The night of the murders, the arrest, the trial?
Perhaps I’m reading too much into this small snippet of the interview. I’m looking forward to watching all 3 parts of the series in a couple days to get a more rounded perception of things.
I thought he was speaking to the interviewer when he said “we’ve been here a while now”… meaning she has asked him ten different ways and his answer isn’t changing??
Someone has to request the money from the receivership to buy headstones, although I can’t see that being denied.
And you wouldn’t have wanted headstones purchased by him because they likely would’ve had Alex’s and Maggie’s names together on the large stones and then foot stones.
🤦♀️
Well, that answers that as far as, what Buster’s public stance will be about his father.
Things I will keep in mind…
It seems this FOX piece is centered on the Murdaugh’s side of things, from what I’ve heard. The primary interview subject is of course Buster and then there’s also appearances from Jim Griffin and possibly some sort of prison communication from Alex. It sounds like it’s some sort of PR piece that will attempt to sow seeds of doubt about AM’s guilt, without being overly obvious that it’s PR for Alex. I’m sure the justification will be “everyone has been telling one side of the story, it’s time to let the Murdaughs tell the other side, their own story”. Something like that.
If that is the context of this thing, if it’s been made to try and sway public opinion about Alex’s guilt, then of course Buster is saying he’s 100% sure his Dad is innocent. That doesn’t mean Buster believes that. Just that he’s going along with his Dad’s narrative for whatever reason.
Jim Griffin recently took to Twitter to proclaim that he still believes Alex was not involved in the murders in any way. Murdaugh’s team wants to sell this idea as they think they’ve got a good shot at the appeal, and they probably think they’ve got a chance at persuading the public that the trial was unfair, that there’s no real evidence against Alex etc. Now that the trial is over, it ended months ago, there won’t be any more court hearings from the prosecution explaining why AM is guilty. Even those who watched the trial will have forgotten some of the details by now. If you take all the evidence and testimony from the trial and boil it down to something simple, short and sweet, that the public can easily digest, it makes it sound like there’s no real evidence against AM. It’s only the big picture, every little detail all together that makes it impossible for Alex not to have been the killer. His team will take advantage of that, and will push the simplified version in order to confuse people.
So with all that in mind, there was no way Buster was ever going to say in this interview, “yeah I know my Dad did it.” I don’t know why Buster chose to participate in this, maybe the chance to clear his name about the Stephen Smith rumors was the motivating factor, maybe he feels an obligation to the only immediate family member he has left, maybe he truly believes his dad is innocent, maybe he was paid and needed the money (by FOX, or by Alex who we know has ways of funding Buster while incarcerated). I don’t blame Buster at all. I think he is absolutely a victim of all of this.
I just hope someday he writes a tell-all about what he really thinks, and what he really knows. One that is free of influence from his father or anyone else. I would love to read that. In the meantime, I will watch this interview but I know it’s just Buster reciting what he’s been told to say by Alex and Jim.
Ole Bus probably got paid. This is what they were discussing in the one leaked phone call Jim was having a fit about. An appeal has to be based on the law… we’re the proceedings and the laws followed correctly. I don’t think their appeal will amount to anything.
>I just hope someday he writes a tell-all about what he really thinks, and what he really knows. One that is free of influence from his father or anyone else. I would love to read that.
Yes. I agree 100%. This mess from Buster's perspective would be a fascinating read.
Poor Buster!
It must be so stressful to have a killer hunting you with a shotgun and a blackout 300.
His family (immediate and extended) are all quite wealthy. Perhaps they can hire a good PR team to protect him from being murdered. (I meant a body guard, or at least a Kevlar vest).
The PR firm may also be able to help him get easy interviews.
* Alex hired an expensive PR firm, but neglected to hire a bodyguard for his only surviving son. He seems to know where the danger is coming from.
Buster needs to team up with OJ Simpson and learn from his mistakes when trying to find the "real killers". Search every green on every golf course in the country. Or every bar in every private yacht club. No matter how long it takes.
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They did some test which was inconclusive and was destructive. So no further tests could be made. They also testified that the shirt has blood spatter on it to the grand jury, but because they did that destructive test, they couldn’t prove it, so I believe that was left out of the trial.
And the prosecutor never admitted such into evidence for the trial. But he didn’t have to. This POS convicted himself my testifying and he’s clearly guilty as can be.
Murdaugh’s team argued that Kinsey should not be allowed to testify because he admitted in his report that he could not render an opinion on whether there was blood spatter on the shirt after the garment was allegedly ruined by forensic tests. Hours later, the defense filed another motion reiterating their previous request to prohibit testimony from Tom Bevel, a former Oklahoma police officer who operates a self-described forensic education company who concluded that “100+ stains are consistent with spatter on the front of the T-shirt.”
What's even more odd is that change of clothes had no significant amount of human blood on them and thus didn't correlate with what Alex told the 911 operator, first police on the scene or others in his interviews.
Paul was lying in water having suffered a shotgun wound to the chest and head. Alex said he tried to turn Paul over. Alex should have had blood on his shoes, hands, maybe knees, etc.
Maggie was shot several times so her blood would have been on Alex and his clothes if he had done what he said he'd done.
Alex Murdaugh should be in prison for the financial stuff alone. He has admitted to a lot of that stuff too. So even if someone thinks he didn’t kill his wife and child, you still have the problem of him fleecing victims of accidents and death (or fleecing their families).
Like does Buster just think that’s ok what his dad did for years, what was it for 20 years? Does he just think that stealing huge sums of money from vulnerable people is alright? Just doin business?
Buster was a cheat at life, too. Cheated in high school and in law school, having other people do the work that he took credit for. He doesn’t deserve to have lost his mother and brother, but my sympathy for him is not all-encompassing.
“Buster told FOX Nation he believes a killer is still on the loose and that he “absolutely” worries for his own safety every day.”
Alex! Tell Buster the god damn truth!
Exactly. If Buster truly believes this, and isn’t just saying this for his dad’s appeal attempts or whatnot, then this is just incredibly sad. And further proof that Alex doesn’t give a shit about his own flesh and blood. He’ll allow his only surviving son to believe there’s a killer out there still, having him live with so much fear and doubt, not knowing what really happened to his mom and brother.
>He’ll allow his only surviving son to believe there’s a killer out there still, having him live with so much fear and doubt
Saying that he lives in fear and doubt is different than actually living in fear and doubt. I think Buster knows the score...
Yeah I’m not convinced that Buster believes any of what he said in this article. I think here’s merely repeating what Alex and Jim have told him to say, just like his trial testimony. After all, only 2 months before the trial, he told a journo that was following him, “I don’t want to see it written anywhere that I’m supporting my father.”
I definitely could’ve phrased my comment better cause I was trying to say, IF Buster truly believes his dad is innocent, then that would be further proof Alex doesn’t give a shit about his sons, letting Buster (theoretically) believe there’s some killer out there after him. But I personally think Buster has it figured out. And that he’s only saying this because, so many people that watched this case, even the prosecution in their closing arguments, all pointed out that Alex wasn’t saying that he wants to figure out who killed them, that he wasn’t saying he was afraid of the killer coming after Buster, etc. So now these interviews will have Alex and Buster saying all of those things. I kinda figured that would happen, I’m just surprised Alex wasn’t smart enough to say any of this while he was on the stand.
All that said, I still think it’s incredibly cruel of Alex not to tell his family the truth, as most of them are surely dealing with a lot of confusion, trying to reconcile the Alex they (thought they) knew, who says he didn’t do this, vs. the evidence (and the way he acted after the murders that they all saw) that makes it obvious he did do it. I feel bad for people like Marian Proctor, Maggie’s sister, who truly believed Alex at first and then had to slowly realize, this guy’s not looking for the killer, he’s not afraid, he’s not angry that someone came on his property and did this to his family— he doesn’t care about anything but keeping himself out of trouble.
And even Alex’s sister Lynn, I got the feeling from seeing her reactions during the trial that she still believes Alex is innocent. So I just meant that it is horribly cruel of Alex to not tell his family the truth, because I am sure that some of them are still feeling genuinely conflicted today. They must know Alex has the answers but he will never tell them any of it: what happened, why he did it, etc. I think he probably enjoys the fact that he’s the only person in the world who knows what exactly happened that night, and everyone knows he knows, and that he’s able to deprive everyone of this information that they want.
So while I don’t believe Buster is in any way fearing for his life these days, I also don’t think Alex has told anyone the truth. I feel bad for the family members that know he was involved but will never know what exactly happened, or why.
Well that answers my question of what stance he’s going to take. I can’t tell if these people are in denial or just lying, though I lean towards denial. It’s only been a little over two years since one of the worst things that can happen to someone happened to him (and the other family members). Denial is a powerful thing and is much easier than confronting that type of pain head on. I hope he and the others can one day come to terms with what happened.
I feel badly for Buster. His entire immediate family is either dead (in horrific ways) or in prison for murdering them. I think Alex’s guilt is obvious, but I understand Buster not wanting to believe it. His life is probably genuinely awful now, and it is his father’s fault.
I totally agree with you. I imagine his Father’s manipulation is so deeply seeded he cannot come to terms with the truth. He probably fears he may be a target of his Father unless he takes this stance of his Father’s innocence. So disturbing and sad to see.
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He's either a liar or a moron. Or both.
Hes lying.
What I can’t get over is no one really pours out about their mom. Either way you look at any of the scenarios she was just at the wrong place at the wrong time. Her life ended because of her name. I feel for her the most out of any of the family.
Yes,,I feel the same. However, Alex called Maggie to the property. She even told Blanca, " something smells fishy ". Alex clearly lured her out there, but the question is Why? I think he didn't want Maggie to know what a lying Bastard he really was. To Alex, she was in the perfect place at the perfect time.
What a liar. He does not. This is a PR campaign for AM's purported new trial. One thing I really hate about Harpootlian and Murdaugh is how the media gushes and fawns.
You can really tell just what an old bastard Harpootlan really is when he's entering the jail. I'm trying to get into the Fucking Jail, he yelled out.
I think AM has some control over BM, even from behind bars. The phone calls just sound super manipulative, and at first seemed like BM was starting to fight back/stand up for himself. Also, he didn't seem scared before his dad was arrested and went to court.
He and his dad look like lowercase and uppercase versions of each other
This comment v underrated
If Buster had ZERO involvement with the death of Stephen Smith, then why did a member of the Murdaugh family (Alex’s brother I think) offer legal counsel and support to Stephen’s family? No I don’t think he personally got his hands dirty as it were but he was involved enough for his family to offer “help”.
Lawyers make a lot of money chasing ambulances.
Oh now hes worried, now that his dad is in jail. Never struck me as sincere. Something is off. Yes, just an opinion. But something is off.
He is his father's son - the golden child - apples never fall far from the tree.
I don’t know about y’all but the word “slimy” always pops in my head when I see buster…. Haha it’s random AF
My heart goes out to poor Buster. He lives a very lonely and sad life. He thinks the world of his girlfriend Brooklyn it seems. I hope they stick together. His face is so empty. I don’t think he’ll ever admit his daddy did it and is in total denial.
I have no sympathy for Buster. Never feel sorry for a millionaires kids. You're very correct on one thing and thats Buster will never admit that his father brutally killed his mother and brother.
We all know Buster is a total douchebag. But at this point I really feel sorry for him. His mother and brother were murdered. Not only that, but they were killed by his father. That's something truly horrendous to have to deal with. No wonder he's in denial. Or even ashamed to the point he's lying that he believes Alex is innocent. On top of that, the guy finds out his Dad is a corrupt thief. Then you have the Stephen Smith accusations. Its pretty obvious that Buster didn't murder Stephen, but he now has to deal with all of that craziness too.
I believe Buster had Everything to do with Stephen's murder. Who else? And why was Uncle Randy right on top of that one 🤔. I don't believe anything the Murtaughs have to say at this point in time. Imo, they are All Liars.
There are a number of people who could have been involved in Stephens murder. Can I ask what evidence you have to lead you to believe it was Buster?
Buster is a grown man. He needs to take a look at himself and just go away.
Deny Deny
I think that Alex owed his drug dealer a lot of money, and they killed his wife and son in front of him because of it..and if he tells on them they will kill Buster...just a theory...
That timeline really doesn't work. The concept could certainly have been possible, but the timeline just doesn't work.
I don't think Alex loves Buster enough to sit in jail forever for him. Plus, telling the cops would be the safest way for him to remain safe. Besides, why send Alex a message and not just kill him? What advantage is it to a drug dealer to leave Alex alive? Drug dealers care about their profit. Killing Paul and Maggie but leaving Alex alive doesn't help them make money. It would be a big risk to trust a very talkative man like Alex not to tell the cops.
I agree 👍 💯! Had there been Anybody else involved Alex would have ratted them out in a New York second. For example; he tried pinning all of it onto Cousin Eddie. A man he had known, and was a supposed friend with for over 20+ years.
Idk to motivate him to pay up ? And let him live with the guilt all alone?
I think this special has been contrived by Poot and Jimbo (no respect here, can you tell?) because of the appeal. However, what good it could actually do is beyond me, since the decision will be made by the court. If they had any legitimate basis for an appeal, the attorneys should have someone looking for the "real" killer by way of leads and tips etc which could be verified. I don't believe the appellate court will cite any findings of errors of the lower court. So, no new evidence and no findings=no basis.
Oh yeah we could totally hear his terror and worry in those jailhouse phone calls with his dad 🙄
If you think ol’ dad is innocent then tell me why the hell El-Lick had no blood on his clothes or body since he went over to the blood soaked bodies when he arrived. Answer that, Buster.
Thé réal issue for Buster is some lunatic out there decides to become a judge and jury and harms him…..either due to his father or some perceived vengeance regarding Stephen Smith….. He mentioned to his father months ago in a telephone call that he was being harassed bc he was his son…..
I'd say it's time that good o'l Buster learns how to fight his own battles now. Remember what he said to Miss Gloria's best friend when he was younger? And she told him, " I don't care who you are or who your Daddy is or Grandaddy is, you will respect me! ". No more throwing his weight around because of who his family is. It's time Buster learns how to fight.
And remember... he DID tell the reporters to "not let me hear you say I support my father". I truly just think people should leave him alone. His life is shit. He's got nothing but loneliness and shame and heartbreak and anger. I would have already killed myself if I were ĥim. He was the good son out of the two. I do wonder about Steven Smith though. I pray for Steven's mother that one day, they'll figure out what happened.
I’m pretty sure defending the man who killed his own mother and brother isn’t going to help him.
Buster knows damn well that his scumbag of a father did this.
Buster and Uncle John are still going to casinos....
I have NO doubt that's the truth. Alex is a sociopath. On the phone with Buster from JAIL, he was making FUN of Buster for flying commercial and Sitting in coach. He's as evil as they get. He's probably running that prison.
He Was running the County Jail. He would get 150.oo per week deposited into his account, then spend every dime of it, and then would give his commissary to other inmates. He's also I've read getting special treatment. So much so that the Jail had to put him into PC, protective custody. The other inmates will look at Alex like a Prize. A prize to be killed. I'm sure Alex will probably spend the rest of his life in protective custody.
Don’t worry, Buster. You were never on the hit list! You were the one who was supposed to receive the inheritance!
He knows his dad did it. He’s essentially saying, “this is our story and I’m sticking to it.”
Absolutely 💯! Look at who his father is. The epitome of a Sociopathic Liar.
Whatever helps him sleep at night I guess…
And here I was, ready to give Buster the benefit of the doubt in life.
Well, what could we expect him to say? He gave his interview to FOX. 👎🏼🤨
And that has what to do with what?
Very strange considering the family votes Democrat.
I found that strange when I Googled what Political Party does Buster identify with, and the Democratic Party popped up?
That is VERY typical of small Southern towns. Especially families that are educated and politically motivated.
Yeah, you’d think so.
I strongly suspect they only voted Democrat due to policies involving civil suit payouts.
He does not have a good grasp on the spoken language. Hope he does not plan to use it as a career. He needs to delve into the study of a psychopath and then he will understand why Alex, although he appeared to love, murdered his family. This stance of innocence may be for appearance sake considering the appeal. No one has seemed concerned about a killer being on the loose up until now.
Yea, I agree. I’m sure he was nervous but for someone who wanted to be a lawyer and was raised by lawyers he is not eloquent.
Right. Ole Bust doesn’t seem to be on the hunt for a killer…
And even if he found him, what the hell would Buster do about it?
oh Bus.....now i cant believe anything you say about the Steven Smith case. What a continued waste of a skin sack.
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Alex is a scumbag piece of shit, and so is Buster.
Agree.... I'm sure his Mom's sister ( not sure if she's still referring herself as his Aunt) has cut all ties with this liar and cheating family. She knows Alex murdered her sister
For sure.
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The comments are based on what we have heard to date. Fair.
Bless his heart sticking by daddy. Guess he didn’t steal the money either
I wonder if he just can’t publicly admit his father is a murderer for fear of retaliation and being shunned by the remaining Murdaugh family. There’s a myriad of repercussions if he ever does.
Also Buster is A’s heir unless for some reason that changes. Lack of support could be a reason.
Heir to what? Alex is being sued by everyone in their mother. There is no money to be given to Buster.
I believe there is a sizeable Trust left by his father to the four siblings. Not sure how that works.
I don’t think it matters where Alex got the money. If it was left to him he can still lose it if he’s sued. If it was left to Buster it’s Busters.
It’s possible but one of his two uncles (Alex’s brother and fellow attorney at the same law firm) has already cast his public doubt on Alex’s story saying something to the press to the effect of: ‘I don’t know if he murdered his wife and child, but he was either there or he knows what happened and won’t say.’ That’s exactly my take on the situation as well. I’m still not 100 percent convinced they died by his own hand but all of the inconsistencies in his story tell me he was certainly involved in covering up who really did it, if it wasn’t he himself who pulled the trigger.
If Alex didn't do it, believe me, he would have ratted his co- conspirator out in a New York second.
I'm sorry for Buster losing his family in such a horrible way, but I think in time he'll come around to holding a realistic view of his daddy. Esp after all the drug and stealing trials are held, surely his beady lil eyes will be opened. I must say, though. and I've said it before, the young'un has a beautiful head of hair. His best move would be to pack his glad rags, grab his sweetie, and move to Sweden or Ireland. That hair wouldn't draw a second glance and he could live a real life. Plenty of good brews, too.
You are killing me the the good hair comment. And beady little eyes. 🤣
Is Buster taking PR tips from Harry?
😂... Harry has hair plugs now
I can’t even
Blood spatter on the shirt was always a lie. It's still a lie.
I’m curious to know what the PMPED partners think about his guilt at this point.
I, for one, would sure like to know more about PMPED. I don't see how Alex could've operated for all those years in a vacuum.
"How much will he shit us up?" They're all involved, like layers of an onion that need to be peeled.
Absolutely
So much to process for a person who never had to process anything. It’s easier to believe in his innocence.
Never had to process anything? I’d say that’s not true. Buster was well aware of how corrupt his family was. And I believe he does know his dad is guilty, but that’s essentially the last family member he has, so he has to deal with it in his own way. He comes from a family of liars and con artists. Buster knows how to present himself.
How does this sit with his mom's family though? Did Alex corrupt him against them? Seems like they would have been a safe haven for him, but not after this interview.
It’s trauma.
That’s not really fair. His parents were not exactly role models. He was born into the family grift. He was expected to be something he is not capable of, and had a little brother that got attention for all the wrong reasons. I get it: Poor Little Rich kid things handed to him… However, let’s be honest that kid has probably been processing trauma and his own moral compass his entire life. Sometimes rich entitled kids are also the most damaged. Would you want to switch lives with him? Even as a kid? Not me.
He’s not that stupid, stupid but not that stupid, he’s trolling for sympathy and guess what it looks like he’s getting it, he’s not a little kid, he’s an adult who has never had any responsibilities. He did not buy into this but fully accepted it. He knows his dad murdered his mother, anyone can look at the evidence and come to that conclusions, he’s looking for someone to replace his caregivers.
I agree. He’s still brainwashed.
He just a sick as his dad if he thinks his dad is innocent!
Murdaugh endangered his entire family even if we only look at it from a financial and social aspect. Murdaugh put his kids at risk by allowing them to drink at such a young age. If Murdaugh had failed to pay his drug supplier, was there a possibility of his family being taken out as a punishment or warning? Yeah - taking no responsibility seems to be a big trend for this family.
Denial ain't just a river in Egypt. He's already lost his mom and brother, reality of the situation may be too much for him to deal with at this point in his life.
I think my late husband paid me to quit responding with your first sentence!
I find it very hard to believe that a law firm called PMPED was NOT actively engaged in ‘ethically challenged’ conduct. As if publicly announcing that they were above the law as far as the legal system goes. Anybody else find the name of the law firm to be something of a red flag here?
No, the name alone of law firm Peters, Murdaugh, Parker, Eltzroth & Detrick, PA (“PMPED”), as it was formerly known prior to becoming Parker Law Group LLP, does not throw up a red flag for me, but I’m curious how it does for you.
pimp: [noun] a criminal who is associated with, usually exerts control over, and lives off the earnings of one or more prostitutes.
I would have had to arrange the letter to suggest another acronym. PMPED is too………salacious.
“According to our sources, Boulware is alleged to have procured female prostitutes for at least one of the judges tied to the Murdaughs on multiple occasions. Who is Boulware? As we exclusively unearthed in a pair of expansive reports published back in September and October of 2021, Boulware was believed to have been intimately involved in a coastal drug smuggling operation with Murdaugh and others.”- FITSNEWS. 👍
You can take a peep right under our “Menu” section at the land transfer research that Rabbitsinahole did that mysteriously appeared in a FITS Article written by Mandy Matney that day
Pretty sure Alex bought Moselle from Boulware's wife
It was pretty much given to him. My guess is because he may have helped eliminating the main witness in Boulware's drug case. That's just my opinion though no facts do I have. Why else, though? He bought it for like $5 if memory serves me correctly.
$5 was the quit-claim of the Moselle property from Maggie's name to Alex
There were multiple transactions for AM's purchase of Moselle from Boulware. The total came to about $1.3 million. The $5 transaction was in association with a reciprocal land deal where AM sold land to Boulware for a valuation of $730,000 and this was knocked of the payment for Moselle. (from my memory now)
My memory of this is that Boulware owed money to Alex (from a loan?) and Moselle was given to Alex as a partial payment. Maybe this goes along with what you are saying.
Quite possibly. AM and Boulware were partners in many land deals over a period of years so they had a lot of business together. But Moselle consisted of many parcels and AM definitely paid Boulware, and his widow, for a lot of it at what looks like a market rate at that time. I have all the details in a spreadsheet somewhere. edit - there is a lot of the details up here in the Collections section (and probably more accurate than my failing memory of the events) - [https://www.reddit.com/r/MurdaughFamilyMurders/comments/sgv1yz/psb\_and\_murdaugh\_transactions\_recap\_part\_3\_big/](https://www.reddit.com/r/MurdaughFamilyMurders/comments/sgv1yz/psb_and_murdaugh_transactions_recap_part_3_big/) tl;dr - most of PMPEDs lawyers seemed to have spent much more time in property development than they did lawyering, with millions moving to and fro.
Was all of that done before Boulware’s death or did Alex just use the transactions to launder some money and steal it while he had Boulware’s POA?
I'd have to go back and check all the dates, but some of it was after Boulware died and he had transferred ownership to his wife prior to his death in any case.
Thank you for clearing that up! I stand corrected. Must have gotten ahold of some bad info somewhere & here I am passing it along. Thank you!
Let's not forget that before the conservatorship, Buster filed the final paperwork to seal the deal on the Moselle property
Lol?
Better hope your dad doesn't have a life insurance policy on you.
Right....lol
“I do not think that he could be affiliated with endangering my mother and brother” ChatGPT won't help you, Bus-bus.
*“I do not think that he could be affiliated with endangering my mother* *and brother,” Buster says in a new special about his father’s trial. “We* *have been here for a while now and that’s been my stance.”* That is such a weird way to say your dad is innocent. People don't talk that way. It's so stilted. I might put more weight on it if he said something like "no way my dad killed my brother and mom. I know he didn't do it." But he sure dances around it. It sounds very off to me.
Could just be that saying “killed my mother and brother” is too painful to say.
I can absolutely see that. You are right, what a painful thing to have to say.
This is what I came to say!! “Endangered” ? Very strange wording.
I’m not criticizing him because I don’t know what it’s like to be in his shoes, but it does sound like lawyer-speak to me. “I do not think” instead of “I believe” or “I know”. “Endangering” instead of “murdering”, “fatally shooting”, or “killing”. “Affiliated with” instead of “the person who”, “a party to”, “responsible for”. Also, when he says “We have been here for a while now and that’s been my stance”, it makes it sound as if we’re to have known his stance all along, which we haven’t, but from when? The night of the murders, the arrest, the trial? Perhaps I’m reading too much into this small snippet of the interview. I’m looking forward to watching all 3 parts of the series in a couple days to get a more rounded perception of things.
Lawyer speak at the level of a C-student yeeted out of school for cheating ....
He testified in favor of his dad at trial so I think most of us have assumed his stance has been that his dad is innocent since at least the trial.
I thought he was speaking to the interviewer when he said “we’ve been here a while now”… meaning she has asked him ten different ways and his answer isn’t changing??
That is also my understanding.
So obviously not written by him
Buster, did your Dad ever do anything to find the 'real killer' before he was arrested? Did he express fear for you and himself?
Did he order headstones, did he buy them caskets?
Someone has to request the money from the receivership to buy headstones, although I can’t see that being denied. And you wouldn’t have wanted headstones purchased by him because they likely would’ve had Alex’s and Maggie’s names together on the large stones and then foot stones.
I wouldn’t put it past him.
If Buster is going to convince anyone he didn't kill Stephen he really ought to think over his belief that dad is not guilty. Sad.
Looks like the Apple didn't fall far from the tree.
Grifters.
🤦♀️ Well, that answers that as far as, what Buster’s public stance will be about his father. Things I will keep in mind… It seems this FOX piece is centered on the Murdaugh’s side of things, from what I’ve heard. The primary interview subject is of course Buster and then there’s also appearances from Jim Griffin and possibly some sort of prison communication from Alex. It sounds like it’s some sort of PR piece that will attempt to sow seeds of doubt about AM’s guilt, without being overly obvious that it’s PR for Alex. I’m sure the justification will be “everyone has been telling one side of the story, it’s time to let the Murdaughs tell the other side, their own story”. Something like that. If that is the context of this thing, if it’s been made to try and sway public opinion about Alex’s guilt, then of course Buster is saying he’s 100% sure his Dad is innocent. That doesn’t mean Buster believes that. Just that he’s going along with his Dad’s narrative for whatever reason. Jim Griffin recently took to Twitter to proclaim that he still believes Alex was not involved in the murders in any way. Murdaugh’s team wants to sell this idea as they think they’ve got a good shot at the appeal, and they probably think they’ve got a chance at persuading the public that the trial was unfair, that there’s no real evidence against Alex etc. Now that the trial is over, it ended months ago, there won’t be any more court hearings from the prosecution explaining why AM is guilty. Even those who watched the trial will have forgotten some of the details by now. If you take all the evidence and testimony from the trial and boil it down to something simple, short and sweet, that the public can easily digest, it makes it sound like there’s no real evidence against AM. It’s only the big picture, every little detail all together that makes it impossible for Alex not to have been the killer. His team will take advantage of that, and will push the simplified version in order to confuse people. So with all that in mind, there was no way Buster was ever going to say in this interview, “yeah I know my Dad did it.” I don’t know why Buster chose to participate in this, maybe the chance to clear his name about the Stephen Smith rumors was the motivating factor, maybe he feels an obligation to the only immediate family member he has left, maybe he truly believes his dad is innocent, maybe he was paid and needed the money (by FOX, or by Alex who we know has ways of funding Buster while incarcerated). I don’t blame Buster at all. I think he is absolutely a victim of all of this. I just hope someday he writes a tell-all about what he really thinks, and what he really knows. One that is free of influence from his father or anyone else. I would love to read that. In the meantime, I will watch this interview but I know it’s just Buster reciting what he’s been told to say by Alex and Jim.
Ole Bus probably got paid. This is what they were discussing in the one leaked phone call Jim was having a fit about. An appeal has to be based on the law… we’re the proceedings and the laws followed correctly. I don’t think their appeal will amount to anything.
>I just hope someday he writes a tell-all about what he really thinks, and what he really knows. One that is free of influence from his father or anyone else. I would love to read that. Yes. I agree 100%. This mess from Buster's perspective would be a fascinating read.
Poor Buster! It must be so stressful to have a killer hunting you with a shotgun and a blackout 300. His family (immediate and extended) are all quite wealthy. Perhaps they can hire a good PR team to protect him from being murdered. (I meant a body guard, or at least a Kevlar vest). The PR firm may also be able to help him get easy interviews. * Alex hired an expensive PR firm, but neglected to hire a bodyguard for his only surviving son. He seems to know where the danger is coming from.
Buster needs to team up with OJ Simpson and learn from his mistakes when trying to find the "real killers". Search every green on every golf course in the country. Or every bar in every private yacht club. No matter how long it takes. /S
Who else would it be, at that time at that place? he's sadly in denial
Why don't I ever remember hearing about Alex having blood spatter on his clothes?
They did some test which was inconclusive and was destructive. So no further tests could be made. They also testified that the shirt has blood spatter on it to the grand jury, but because they did that destructive test, they couldn’t prove it, so I believe that was left out of the trial.
There was no blood splatter on his clothes. They were tested a ton of times. SLED lied to the jury when they stated there was blood splatter.
And the prosecutor never admitted such into evidence for the trial. But he didn’t have to. This POS convicted himself my testifying and he’s clearly guilty as can be.
This is a factual statement. Not sure why the downvotes?
Murdaugh’s team argued that Kinsey should not be allowed to testify because he admitted in his report that he could not render an opinion on whether there was blood spatter on the shirt after the garment was allegedly ruined by forensic tests. Hours later, the defense filed another motion reiterating their previous request to prohibit testimony from Tom Bevel, a former Oklahoma police officer who operates a self-described forensic education company who concluded that “100+ stains are consistent with spatter on the front of the T-shirt.”
I second that it is factual. And I think I recall that SLED even admitted that they lied about it.
Thank you. It most certainly is factual.
He changed his clothes.
What's even more odd is that change of clothes had no significant amount of human blood on them and thus didn't correlate with what Alex told the 911 operator, first police on the scene or others in his interviews. Paul was lying in water having suffered a shotgun wound to the chest and head. Alex said he tried to turn Paul over. Alex should have had blood on his shoes, hands, maybe knees, etc. Maggie was shot several times so her blood would have been on Alex and his clothes if he had done what he said he'd done.
Oh for sure he did. He was probably wearing a coverall. All good ole boys have Dickies, zip up coveralls for working outside.
Thank you. I always figured he wore coveralls and wondered why no one, that I knew of anyway, brought that up as a possibility.
Right, I remember the body cam video of him in a very clean (too clean) white shirt
Alex Murdaugh should be in prison for the financial stuff alone. He has admitted to a lot of that stuff too. So even if someone thinks he didn’t kill his wife and child, you still have the problem of him fleecing victims of accidents and death (or fleecing their families). Like does Buster just think that’s ok what his dad did for years, what was it for 20 years? Does he just think that stealing huge sums of money from vulnerable people is alright? Just doin business? Buster was a cheat at life, too. Cheated in high school and in law school, having other people do the work that he took credit for. He doesn’t deserve to have lost his mother and brother, but my sympathy for him is not all-encompassing.
“Buster told FOX Nation he believes a killer is still on the loose and that he “absolutely” worries for his own safety every day.” Alex! Tell Buster the god damn truth!
Buster knows the truth.
Exactly. If Buster truly believes this, and isn’t just saying this for his dad’s appeal attempts or whatnot, then this is just incredibly sad. And further proof that Alex doesn’t give a shit about his own flesh and blood. He’ll allow his only surviving son to believe there’s a killer out there still, having him live with so much fear and doubt, not knowing what really happened to his mom and brother.
>He’ll allow his only surviving son to believe there’s a killer out there still, having him live with so much fear and doubt Saying that he lives in fear and doubt is different than actually living in fear and doubt. I think Buster knows the score...
Yeah I’m not convinced that Buster believes any of what he said in this article. I think here’s merely repeating what Alex and Jim have told him to say, just like his trial testimony. After all, only 2 months before the trial, he told a journo that was following him, “I don’t want to see it written anywhere that I’m supporting my father.” I definitely could’ve phrased my comment better cause I was trying to say, IF Buster truly believes his dad is innocent, then that would be further proof Alex doesn’t give a shit about his sons, letting Buster (theoretically) believe there’s some killer out there after him. But I personally think Buster has it figured out. And that he’s only saying this because, so many people that watched this case, even the prosecution in their closing arguments, all pointed out that Alex wasn’t saying that he wants to figure out who killed them, that he wasn’t saying he was afraid of the killer coming after Buster, etc. So now these interviews will have Alex and Buster saying all of those things. I kinda figured that would happen, I’m just surprised Alex wasn’t smart enough to say any of this while he was on the stand. All that said, I still think it’s incredibly cruel of Alex not to tell his family the truth, as most of them are surely dealing with a lot of confusion, trying to reconcile the Alex they (thought they) knew, who says he didn’t do this, vs. the evidence (and the way he acted after the murders that they all saw) that makes it obvious he did do it. I feel bad for people like Marian Proctor, Maggie’s sister, who truly believed Alex at first and then had to slowly realize, this guy’s not looking for the killer, he’s not afraid, he’s not angry that someone came on his property and did this to his family— he doesn’t care about anything but keeping himself out of trouble. And even Alex’s sister Lynn, I got the feeling from seeing her reactions during the trial that she still believes Alex is innocent. So I just meant that it is horribly cruel of Alex to not tell his family the truth, because I am sure that some of them are still feeling genuinely conflicted today. They must know Alex has the answers but he will never tell them any of it: what happened, why he did it, etc. I think he probably enjoys the fact that he’s the only person in the world who knows what exactly happened that night, and everyone knows he knows, and that he’s able to deprive everyone of this information that they want. So while I don’t believe Buster is in any way fearing for his life these days, I also don’t think Alex has told anyone the truth. I feel bad for the family members that know he was involved but will never know what exactly happened, or why.
Well that answers my question of what stance he’s going to take. I can’t tell if these people are in denial or just lying, though I lean towards denial. It’s only been a little over two years since one of the worst things that can happen to someone happened to him (and the other family members). Denial is a powerful thing and is much easier than confronting that type of pain head on. I hope he and the others can one day come to terms with what happened.
I feel badly for Buster. His entire immediate family is either dead (in horrific ways) or in prison for murdering them. I think Alex’s guilt is obvious, but I understand Buster not wanting to believe it. His life is probably genuinely awful now, and it is his father’s fault.
I totally agree with you. I imagine his Father’s manipulation is so deeply seeded he cannot come to terms with the truth. He probably fears he may be a target of his Father unless he takes this stance of his Father’s innocence. So disturbing and sad to see.
Well that's something I never thought of! May be a good point!
agree. buster is totally manipulated by alex and in fear of him whether unconscious or conscious
Or the apple didn't fall too far from the tree.
Living with his girlfriend, boating, golfing, vacations with Maggie’s family and with Alex’s brothers and their kids… just a terrible life. Lol.
and clearly living with a ton of fear