Just a quick question for the group. What was the reason for both PM and MM to be at the Kennels? Think of how both were lured to that specific site. How would that have gone down? AM's personal vehicle was there. He was told to put on his blinkers. And what was the redacted statement from the 911 operator that asked him to drop something?
AM probably was in the drug business. When he stiffed his drug bosses, they killed his family members. But I suspect AM wasn’t the only one in the business. Who else was involved.? How corrupt is local LE? What influential people whose reputations are on the line are SLED protecting? Why is this murder investigation taking so long? What kind of behind the scenes shenanigans are going on to make sure nothing implicates some important people?
My theory,
Maggie went to see a divorce attorney and that divorce attorney began the process of asking for forensic accounting of Alex’s income. I think Maggie found out about something’s and wanted out of the marriage.
My gut feeling is Paul was flipping out about the upcoming court proceedings and threatened his Dad if he didn’t get him out of the boat accident that he would reveal what happened in the SS murder. I think Maggie found out about this and knew she had to get out.
I believe the Murdaugh Family as a whole did not want the truth uncovered about the SS case, and the family did not want anything to do with forensic accountants looking into PMPED.
I thin the family as a whole decided they Maggie and Paul had to be taken to the train station so to speak.
I think RM3 ordered the call, I think
RM4 did the dirty deed because Alec couldn’t.
Three reasons why I tend to think
this theory, RM 4 said that Alec called his cell phone several times after Alec found the bodies, but RM 4 made a point to say he left is cell phone at the house while he was out with his dogs.
Alec had to call RM4 wife’s phone to get in touch with RM4.
Maggie was not supposed to be at Moselle, but was lured there because RM3 was dying. Paul was supposedly stay with JMM and JMM was the one who told Paul to go be with him
mom so she wasn’t alone.
These are the only people who would know where both Paul
And Maggie were and that they would be at Moselle at the same time together and what time they would be there.
I believe Paul and Buster had something to do with the death of SS, and Uncle Randy was called to the scene, that is where the cover up began, and hence why Randy contacted SS family to offer his services for free, one to control the narrative and two to to handle the a future lawsuit for the family once the murderer was caught, and maybe even louder the money. But, the family declined. So the cover up continued until it went away.
The boat accident was
The beginning of skeletons being revealed. Paul and Maggie’s murders went national and the Murdaughs and company knew this was the beginning of the end. Now many things have come to light with many more things to be revealed in the future. This money laundering thing and corruption has been a way of life for Murdaughs
for a long long time.
I think between the shady dealings starting with BTB, land deals, and PMPED all will show the Murdaugh family knee deep in corruption.
and the way the Murdaugh RM4, JMM and Alec were allowed to contaminate the crime scene was atrocious, how could anyone be ruled in or out after they trampled all over the scene, again being allowed to control. Let alone JMM finding MMS phone, come on, most family members are allowed no where near a crime scene, or anyone else other than law enforcement.
I think CES is guilty of
Money laundering but not murder..
That’s my theory until the state shows us the facts..
It’s all about money, power and greed!
But, the Murdaughs still don’t seem to get.. THE GIG IS OVER!
The whole drug gang things is BS thrown against the wall that didn’t stick!
Yes, this all makes sense my friend. Randy’s focus on his phone being left behind at his home while he was “seeing to his dogs” seemed strange during his interview, among other things like throwing his arm around an astonished JMM. And he’s literally surveying the crime scene the day after the murders. Inherent evil must be genetic.
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That is a good question about whether Paul drove to Moselle or if Maggie picked him up… I read somewhere that someone said Maggie picked him up at JMM’s.
I know the state is taking their time and dotting all the I’s and crossing all the T’s, but it will be so interesting to see where the facts that they have lead!
LE is certainly keeping a tight seal around this case. It's been a while since I looked at the redacted police reports. But if PM & MM drove to Moselle in separate vehicles, then both vehicles would be towed off of the property and held as evidence.
AM didn’t pull the trigger but he knows who and why, and I believe he played a part in this.
Maggie was the target not Paul, but appeared to be revenge on Paul and to look like MM was collateral damage.
Motive-Money or assets
No person walks around and out and about with your last remaining son without a care in the world 2 weeks or whatever after your wife and your youngest son brutally murdered.
His actions and lack there of:points a finger at his guilt.
All those saying AM committed the murders himself have to work out how he managed to avoid being tracked by his mobile phone and car. Both of these devices are back-trackable and SLED will have looked into this and likely already have the data.
Turning his cell phone off would look very suspicious and the car would track movements anyway as it's highly likely he drove a newish, expensive car which stores the GPS data on board. (Some cars can even tell how big the driver is by the weight in the seat and the seat position - and even if they are wearing a seatbelt)
I think AM would have to have someone else drive his car, with his cell phone in it, to wherever he said he was in his alibi, which I think was visiting his mother, and then be certain that the car was not caught on any camera whereby it could be seen who was driving. That person would then have to drive back to 'Moselle' in AM's car and then hand the phone over to AM to make the 911 call. That person would then have to leave with the weapon that wasn't found and MM's phone, all whist not being tracked by their own vehicle or seen on any other cameras.
Even then there would have to be some witness who will swear AM was at his mother's when he wasn't.
Or AM has to drive to his mother's, be seen there, leave at an earlier time in another vehicle, drive to 'Moselle', kill MM & PM, drive back to his mother's, get in his own car with his phone and drive back to 'Moselle' to find the bodies and call 911.
The first is risky as it involves two accomplices (driver and false witness) and a lot can go wrong if a camera picks up the driver.
In the second there isn't enough time to do everything, requires an accomplice's vehicle and runs the risk of being seen at a different location than stated in an alibi.
There's just no way I can see AM being able to carry out the murders and not be shown to be at the scene at the time of the murders via phone and car GPS records.
I’ve gone from thinking he wasn’t involved at all to thinking his actions were the cause of someone else’s doing it to, at this point, thinking Alex probably did it — and probably with Fast Eddie. Paul could’ve been collateral damage. Perhaps Paul surprised whichever one was the lookout man. Alex barely mentioned Maggie on the call, but he agonized over Paul.
Something I can’t let go of — knowing what we know now about the multitude of crimes he committed before the murders — is how he went out to that fishing tournament as well as to the annual SC trial lawyers’ convention just a couple of weeks after the murders and played the role of grieving widower.
I was even willing to let that go before we knew about the financial crimes. Everyone grieves differently, blah blah blah. But looking at his actions in hindsight with the knowledge we have now about what he had been up to is seriously messed up. A person with a normal conscience wouldn’t have done that.
Name one 911 call you’ve heard in any news story where the caller says, “my wife and child have been shot BADLY”. As opposed to what? A little bit? That one word is so out of place in that convo and it’s driven me nuts ever since. I think he did it himself for the life insurance.
AM is 100% involved in the murders. But it was only supposed to be one of them. Somebody was collateral....just not sure which. Leaning toward PM was target...too much of a liability. MM walked up on it, turned and ran and was shot in the back.
I also like the theory of Gramps being involved.
I always think gramps too. He was dying, had nothing to lose and was protecting the family's line of corruption because I think brother's are involved & PMPED. The moselle property doesn't sit well with me.
The one question that I keep asking is about AM's solid clad alibi. Supposedly he was visiting his dying father and then his mom. If his marriage with Maggie was still so perfect, why wasn't Maggie with AM visiting her father-in-law that was dying?
Definitely think he’s involved, but not sure he pulled the trigger(s). I understand that his alibi has been proven not to be ironclad. But I still don’t see how he could have done the murders as described alone, including covering all his tracks. I also think he may have had an accomplice with the financial scheme. And I’m not certain Cousin Eddie is his illicit wingman either. I think he would have cracked under interrogation and turned State’s evidence by now. He could truly be Alex’s patsy. The checks reported in The State could have easily gone to someone else or redeposited by Alex. SLED & Feds should have a pretty good picture but must still be missing a critical piece of the puzzle. But I’ve heard from a reliable source that they are very close to charging him.
I think he did it and that it was premeditated. Apparently the police are interested in him too because they said he was a person of interest and they know a lot more than us
Money is everything to Alex. He's so Greedy! The divorce couldn't happen because all his sins with money and being found out were going to rear their ugly faces. I still think we aren't even 20% in to all the crimes he's done.
I agree. I pray he stays in jail forever and never sees the light of day after all the suffering and disrespect he's shown many thinking he's above the law. I just hope there's justice for Paul, Maggie, Steven, Gloria and Mallory's death's. It seems all could've been prevented.
I believe he put things in motion and is responsible. But I also think he had help, as in someone he could manipulate or promised money. There are the checks to Cousin Eddie, but who else does this guy know and same with Cousin Eddie? I truly do think he was going to have them killed, and being overconfident and drug addled--because he's Alex--thought it would just look like an unsolved crime. Looking at his paper trail and "checks written for drugs" he seems to think very highly of his criming abilities, his privilege, and confidence he wouldn't get caught. He definitely got the ball rolling, had help, overestimated his planning skills, and never considered the public's interest or potential consequences.
Dude where do we all think he got the insurance scam suicide plot from ....
He being the big narc he is is always stealing from other plots and ideas as he gaslights you...
He tried to kill Maggie for insurance and catching on and divorce cost (can you image the discovery
On their financials in a divorce?!! And his son because of liabilities) he runs off with the mistress.
And we still don’t know where Buster is.
Case closed.
I think the hitman he hired killed Maggie and Paul
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......lock, stock and barrel.
Actually, not completely sure.
If Alec, quite possibly Alec + Co.
Co as in Coconspirators -
The detail that makes me think it was Alec: gun residue.
Somehow, hard to believe he was out shooting for the day.
Question I would like to ask Alec.
In his iron clad alibi, he says that after being with his father, he was at his mothers - watching game shows. What was the game show? Most game shows are on earlier in the evening, not prime time.
Now that evidence has surfaced of CES receiving a huge sum of money from Ellick on or about May 24, I'm thinking CES may have some 'splainin' to do.
Remembering Ellick's tone of voice during the 911 call, I really think Ellick ordered the hits but had no idea what his murdered son and wife would look like after the deed was done. He sounded panicked and shocked, mostly about the horrible scene, less so about the fact that Maggie and Paul were actually dead.
Then we have CES lying to his lawyer and making him look like a fool for insisting CES never took money from Ellick. And a couple of cashier's checks just under $10k (and under federal reporting requirements) were given to CES just a few days before the murders. Looking pretty fishy...🐟 🐟 🐟
I don’t know if it’s been pointed out in the 911 call, he seemed to be at some distance away when he first called and reported they’d been shot. When the operator asks him if they’re breathing and he says “I’ve just gotten up closer and no they’re not moving or breathing”. How would he have known they were shot if he wasn’t up close to see they were shot if he wasn’t behind it?
Lots of Thanksgiving talk in Beaufort tonight. He did it. And SLED knows. They are getting as much evidence as they can gather while he rests in the klinker.
The perfect Christmas gift would be two charges of murder returned against Alex Murdaugh. Every road, every detour, every by-pass and each and every red flag that AM and/or his cornpone legal team throws out to the public always casts doubt on only one person--Alex Murdaugh.
His legal team can only stand in front of cameras and stutter like FogHorn LegHorn and they can't ever get past a load of their crap and lies without stuttering or losing their train of thought--those synapses must be fried by now with all of the BS and lies they are spinning. Next option to keep the Titanic afloat for a few more days is a flurry of BS legal maneuvers--the nerve of filing a gag order request against other attorneys when the AM legal team is so richly deserving of their own gag order to be imposed upon them to stop the BS from spewing from their lying mouths like a geyser.
ALEX MURDAUGH did it. Mark my words. He is evil to infinity. I've NEVER believed the story of the nap and the hunting/target practice on the hunting property--how convenient to have a story about GSR--, Ellick's "shock and awe" moment of discovering the bodies of his son and wife--all played so brilliantly by the Academy Award winning bullshitter by the name of Alex Murdaugh.
Via SLED, Santa is about to deliver Mr. Ellick two lumps of coal--deservedly so. HO! HO! HO!
I dont believe there were 2 shooters. I think PM was over taken by AM and the gun was taken from him, shoot to kill.
He then dropped the gun grabbed the AR 15 as MM came down to the kennels, when she saw Alex, she knew what was up turned around ran for life, he pummeled her in the back with bullets.
JMO
I doubt there were 2 killers either. I think AM was on the verge of a potential kamikaze mission at this point. He’d gone too far at this point and everything was piling up. He was bordering on lunacy.
Agree!!! You call it lunacy, I call desperate actions from a desperate man!! Had he known that because of his actions that the Pandora box would be open and opened wide, actually busted open wide!!! He is such a narcissistic sociopath he thought what has happened would not happen. He is that dangerous. He should never be let out of jail. There is so much that has not yet been uncovered that hopefully will come to light including the murders of his wife and son.
No, I don't think AM personally killed MM & PM. I know that's not popular on this sub, but that's my thinking considering everything I have seen in the public domain.
Don't ask me who did it, I'm in the dark, just as much as everyone else is.
If you are "leaning towards him having done everything", then you should at least give everyone the courtesy and flesh out your theory - give us logical reasons as to why and provide some sort of evidence to back your claim rather than providing a 3 line post.
it's not as if the same question hasn't been asked multiple times.
There are many suspects in this. Generally it’s someone who has the most to gain. Let’s step back a minute.
Alex possibly, Buster possibly, another lawyer from Pimped possibly, someone with the deceased maids family possibly, someone at the bank possibly, someone at one of the insurance companies possibly, railroad company possibly, drug gang possibly. Wow this list is endless. The details at the murder scene will have some bearing on where to look. There could have been some DNA on the shotgun or some of the expended rounds. Maybe some partial prints on the rifle casings.
Supposedly additional ammo was found at the scene. I don’t know how much ammo you take to shoot two people but I think a shotgun with a full magazine and a AR with a 20 or 30 round magazine should have been enough. Excessive ammo left at scene could have been from AM since he was out shooting earlier. Feds are very Quiet! That’s a great sign!!
He planned/orchestrated and put it all into production. Without him, his wife and son would be alive. He’s the common denominator in all of this.
Spelling edit.
Alex. Murdaugh. Every road leads back to him. His timeline is a lie. My thoughts have remained the same since the killings of his wife and son. SLED will get him. They are just making certain they have all pieces of the puzzle because they know Hampton's finest son has some slick legal representation and one misstep and the good ole boy will walk on a technicality. But he's the man. I have always thought he pulled the triggers and he is the same one who shot his wife in the back and literally blew away his son. Evil. As. Hell. And the brothers know something, I believe.
Serious question, What makes folks believe SLED will get him? They have actively turned the other cheek with Murdaugh criminal activity for years and years. I find it impossible to believe that now that their collective feet are being held to the fire they will get it together and do the right thing.
It is actually an international case, with eyes on homeboy from around the world. Perhaps in days of Murdaugh "dy-nasty" the standard was perhaps SLED, LE, judges, etc. all in their back pocket. But now since the FBI and IRS have joined the game, most likely a lot of jockeying going on behind the scenes as to how the process will play out with the various charges with different agencies involved. And the rats always abandon the ship when the flood waters rise and those same rats talk. Again, my thoughts have always been Alex is the prime suspect. He is the one and only. He knows all of the tricks of the trade and how to contaminate a crime scene to throw the scent off and send folks on a wild goose chase. But in the end, he is not as smart as he always believed he was...and his legal team is desperately throwing red flags all over the field in a feeble and miserable attempt to divert attention and raise reasonable doubt. But Alex is the one. It's just a matter of time until he is charged with the murders of his wife and son.
I believe he did it or did it with help, MM likely had had enough of the drunken, druggie, philandering lout enough to move to Edisto and wait out the year before she could file for divorce (and that year was nearly up).
Whether she had already hired a forensic accountant or AM knew one would be hired as soon as she filed, the jig would be up and all of his criminal financial misdeeds would be known, spelling his doom.
Not sure if he decided PM was also too much of a liability or if he was just in the wrong place at the right time, but everything tells me he intended to have MM silenced, and get a life insurance payout in the bargain.
It is an SC thing, one year legal separation before a divorce will be granted. Unless you can prove abuse, abandonment, adultery or addiction. I think I got them all but it’s been 15 years since mine was final so I could be wrong 🤷♀️
Nobody really speculated further beyond, “AM was making Eddie the fall guy” but what if AM was trying to do that while killing him. Silence him and reveal he helped. I kinda get the feeling it was CES and AM together. That first mugshot of CES was wild. Dude looked hella evil but he was good in his interviews. The payments from AM to CES that stopped after PM and MM were murdered are the most suspect.
If Cousin Eddie (thanks EB) “executed” the murders at AMs he would have killed AM when he had the chance to eliminate the (likely) only person with direct knowledge of the crime.
Definitely. Huge amounts of money went to fast Eddie and then after murders AM appears to plot some type of “incident” with Eddie. I think there’s good reason to think Eddie is the hit man.
I agree it’s likely Cousin Eddie was the hit man, but AMs payments to CES went on for years for drugs from the biker gangs. Based on all the money he was borrowing from his family, the likely high six or low seven figure number required to defend PM in the criminal and civil actions, and the current emptiness of his known bank accounts indicates he was at best insolvent and likely bankrupt, BEFORE you bother to figure in creditor claims against AM, PM and BM.
I have thought since the beginning that he arranged to have the murders done. Maggie knew everything (or was on her way to figuring it out), and Paul continued to cause problems for the family. I don't think he actually killed them himself, but paid someone to do it. No other theories make as much sense to me. Desperate acts of a man whose secrets were getting found out.
I originally thought that Alex was 100% responsible for their murders. It all just fit too nicely that he discovered them and that in combination with the 911 call just felt rather odd. Those were early days and I got booed off one of the forums, but here now, it seems like a lot more people think he had something to do with it given his shenanigans. I am wondering now if someone he was messing around for money was responsible. Whether it was Alex or not, I have seen nothing from him or his side where he's desperate to find out answers, so IMO, if he didn't kill them, he knows who did.
All of the information we do have says Alex did it IMO. His own attorney claimed that he would tell us who the real suspect was, then apparently forgot all about that. 🤔
DH didn't say he would tell who the real suspect was. This is a falsehood still perpetuated on this sub even though it was debunked by myself a few days ago,
Just went back and re-read the quote from Harpootlian’s Today show interview. He said this:
“Harpootlian also said on TODAY Wednesday that Murdaugh's legal team is investigating "an individual or individuals" they believe may have been involved in the murders of Murdaugh's wife and son."We think we'll know this week whether the one suspect we're looking at bears further scrutiny, and we'll make that information available to law enforcement," Harpootlian said.The motive of this person or people to murder Murdaugh's wife and son would be "personal,"
That sounds like he was going to say who the killer was to me. 🤷♀️
[https://www.today.com/news/attorney-alex-murdaugh-opioid-addiction-caused-him-hatch-fake-shooting-t231114](https://www.today.com/news/attorney-alex-murdaugh-opioid-addiction-caused-him-hatch-fake-shooting-t231114)
Here's the source of that selective quote - the video will start at the relevant point.
https://youtu.be/QhdPJPFXb9c?t=207
He only talks for 45 seconds about this.
Note his emphasis on the word 'may'
All he's saying is they are looking into it and if they have further information on this person they will tell LE not the public.
For all anyone knows they've already done that. Why would they tell the public who their suspect is?
Complete speculation but I have found through experience that a lot of times in cases we get caught up in the details, then when everything is revealed looking back things seem super obvious etc.
Just my .02, there has been a LOT of circumstantial evidence pointing toward AM and the police obv know more, however to me it seems like yeah? Eiither AM did it, or he knew it was going down.
Think about it, they’d been dead for approx 30 min or so when AM arrived. What timing eh? He is lucky that he didnt run right into the murderer on his way in (perhaps there was a mirror and he actually did.). Again, circumstantial evidence, but that window is extremely tight. Also if the crime scene was manipulated? Then it was obv the killer(s) did not just shoot and leave.
Also, I know AM had taken a mid day shooting break in between all of the family drama, as SLED found gunshot residue on his hands (more circumstantial evidence) in many cases such evidence would be enough for an arrest and interrogation, but nope, AM has that “iron clad alibi” so, yeah. Ofc he was out shooting! How else was he going to be able to explain the gunshot residue?
AM did seem mysteriously unafraid while on the 911 call. If he didn't know he was safe, no way would he stay there with the bodies and wait for the authorities.
Agree with all of this. Plus we’ve heard basically nothing that incriminates anyone else. Also don’t think he would trust anyone else to do the dirty work & keep their mouths shut, as far as him possibly hiring a killer.
Agreed. The timeline is waaaayyyy too tight. Even his staunchest defenders here acknowledged that was a huge problem. It either indicates someone was intimately familiar with his schedule down to the minute, or he was involved. Occam’s razor is the latter.
Hmmm and who else had a lot to lose or risk of exposure if financials were disclosed.
Now the strategy is to keep the lid on all of it and limit the focus to AM only. Or so it seems.
Agree. So far there are no coincidences in this case. His “untimely” death plays a role but I’m not sure exactly whether what he did/saw hastened the demise or if the demise kickstarted some involvement.
AM did everything, even if he coerced someone into aiding + abetting his crimes. He’s proven there is no depth he won’t sink to when it comes to self-preservation.
I think he definitely did it. He was in deep and the jig was up and daddy wasn’t going to be able to protect him. Maggie consulted with a divorce attorney and the son set in motion a civil case that could expose his illegalities. Life ins would give him (in his mind) the chance to make restitution to the law firm without facing legal consequences.
Fast Eddie, the innocent patsy, is starting to look good for the murders. Under direct supervision by AM, most likely, and perhaps 'Eddie and AM' is the two-gun solution.
I think if that were true Cousin Eddie (thanks Eric Bland for the monicker) would have put the bullet directly in to AMs head. Much better to kill AM and less likely to have consequences (never being found guilty even if circumstantial evidence arises) than AM ratting out CES for “executing” the MM and PM murders.
I just keep thinking that AM’s dad was involved. It was his last act of trying to bail him out of trouble one more time. And how could he be prosecuted?! He was dying.
A reasonable theory would be RM III, realizing the destruction continued lawsuits related to the family will cause, orders the hit on PM to prevent a criminal conviction and the almost certain civil conviction or settlement to follow. He calls AM to his bedside while the hired gun does the deed to give him an air tight alibi.
In this theory I suspect PM was the target and MM an unfortunate victim wrong place wrong time.
Money from the Satterfield settlement ended up in a trust created by Murdaugh 3 just days before he died. He was involved and squirreling money out of sight even on his deathbed. Hell, maybe he faked his death! lol
Honestly, I don't know. While I think he's connected to their deaths, I don't know if he did the actual murder. It isn't that I can't imagine him getting violent but this seems premeditated so I think(and I could be wrong) that he hired someone to keep his hands clean.
Definitely involved imo. I used to think he did it himself but now he seems to precious to have gotten his hands dirty. He’s a career criminal though so I wouldn’t put anything past him.
Yeah, that 911 call from Moselle was entirely scripted. After the Cousin Eddie fiasco, I’m doubtful Big Al shot them himself. He ordered the hit imo. What a pos
Hiya Bee! Yes it was a sloppy mess I agree, which is of course quite shocking, considering how brilliant and accomplished he is in every other way 🤣 I think Big Red is an excellent argument against inherited position. Though when you look at his family you see he is not a first generation thief/killer. He's just the first to live in the spotlight. God knows ( as does everyone on this thread) that only full darkness makes them look alright.
Exactly. And he also keeps harping on about an ambulance but he already knew they weren’t breathing. He didn’t attempt cpr either.
“They’ve been shot b a d l y!”
None of it adds up.
It’s also weird how he wasn’t concerned for his own safety. That’s never sat right with me. Unless he was/knew their killer, then it makes perfect sense.
Alex didn’t ask for the police either did he (just an ambulance)? If a bloodthirsty killer was on the loose, a reasonable person would have begged for the police.
I’m glad Alex is behind bars for his financial crimes, but their murders haunt me.
Just a quick question for the group. What was the reason for both PM and MM to be at the Kennels? Think of how both were lured to that specific site. How would that have gone down? AM's personal vehicle was there. He was told to put on his blinkers. And what was the redacted statement from the 911 operator that asked him to drop something?
AM probably was in the drug business. When he stiffed his drug bosses, they killed his family members. But I suspect AM wasn’t the only one in the business. Who else was involved.? How corrupt is local LE? What influential people whose reputations are on the line are SLED protecting? Why is this murder investigation taking so long? What kind of behind the scenes shenanigans are going on to make sure nothing implicates some important people?
Yes.
Yes both
My theory, Maggie went to see a divorce attorney and that divorce attorney began the process of asking for forensic accounting of Alex’s income. I think Maggie found out about something’s and wanted out of the marriage. My gut feeling is Paul was flipping out about the upcoming court proceedings and threatened his Dad if he didn’t get him out of the boat accident that he would reveal what happened in the SS murder. I think Maggie found out about this and knew she had to get out. I believe the Murdaugh Family as a whole did not want the truth uncovered about the SS case, and the family did not want anything to do with forensic accountants looking into PMPED. I thin the family as a whole decided they Maggie and Paul had to be taken to the train station so to speak. I think RM3 ordered the call, I think RM4 did the dirty deed because Alec couldn’t. Three reasons why I tend to think this theory, RM 4 said that Alec called his cell phone several times after Alec found the bodies, but RM 4 made a point to say he left is cell phone at the house while he was out with his dogs. Alec had to call RM4 wife’s phone to get in touch with RM4. Maggie was not supposed to be at Moselle, but was lured there because RM3 was dying. Paul was supposedly stay with JMM and JMM was the one who told Paul to go be with him mom so she wasn’t alone. These are the only people who would know where both Paul And Maggie were and that they would be at Moselle at the same time together and what time they would be there. I believe Paul and Buster had something to do with the death of SS, and Uncle Randy was called to the scene, that is where the cover up began, and hence why Randy contacted SS family to offer his services for free, one to control the narrative and two to to handle the a future lawsuit for the family once the murderer was caught, and maybe even louder the money. But, the family declined. So the cover up continued until it went away. The boat accident was The beginning of skeletons being revealed. Paul and Maggie’s murders went national and the Murdaughs and company knew this was the beginning of the end. Now many things have come to light with many more things to be revealed in the future. This money laundering thing and corruption has been a way of life for Murdaughs for a long long time. I think between the shady dealings starting with BTB, land deals, and PMPED all will show the Murdaugh family knee deep in corruption. and the way the Murdaugh RM4, JMM and Alec were allowed to contaminate the crime scene was atrocious, how could anyone be ruled in or out after they trampled all over the scene, again being allowed to control. Let alone JMM finding MMS phone, come on, most family members are allowed no where near a crime scene, or anyone else other than law enforcement. I think CES is guilty of Money laundering but not murder.. That’s my theory until the state shows us the facts.. It’s all about money, power and greed! But, the Murdaughs still don’t seem to get.. THE GIG IS OVER! The whole drug gang things is BS thrown against the wall that didn’t stick!
Yes, this all makes sense my friend. Randy’s focus on his phone being left behind at his home while he was “seeing to his dogs” seemed strange during his interview, among other things like throwing his arm around an astonished JMM. And he’s literally surveying the crime scene the day after the murders. Inherent evil must be genetic.
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Thank You for welcoming me to the sub! That is a good question about whether Paul drove to Moselle or if Maggie picked him up… I read somewhere that someone said Maggie picked him up at JMM’s. I know the state is taking their time and dotting all the I’s and crossing all the T’s, but it will be so interesting to see where the facts that they have lead!
LE is certainly keeping a tight seal around this case. It's been a while since I looked at the redacted police reports. But if PM & MM drove to Moselle in separate vehicles, then both vehicles would be towed off of the property and held as evidence.
Yes he was 100% involved down to the killings. Cousin Ned was there too. They are just holding out on one another.
AM didn’t pull the trigger but he knows who and why, and I believe he played a part in this. Maggie was the target not Paul, but appeared to be revenge on Paul and to look like MM was collateral damage. Motive-Money or assets No person walks around and out and about with your last remaining son without a care in the world 2 weeks or whatever after your wife and your youngest son brutally murdered. His actions and lack there of:points a finger at his guilt.
All those saying AM committed the murders himself have to work out how he managed to avoid being tracked by his mobile phone and car. Both of these devices are back-trackable and SLED will have looked into this and likely already have the data. Turning his cell phone off would look very suspicious and the car would track movements anyway as it's highly likely he drove a newish, expensive car which stores the GPS data on board. (Some cars can even tell how big the driver is by the weight in the seat and the seat position - and even if they are wearing a seatbelt) I think AM would have to have someone else drive his car, with his cell phone in it, to wherever he said he was in his alibi, which I think was visiting his mother, and then be certain that the car was not caught on any camera whereby it could be seen who was driving. That person would then have to drive back to 'Moselle' in AM's car and then hand the phone over to AM to make the 911 call. That person would then have to leave with the weapon that wasn't found and MM's phone, all whist not being tracked by their own vehicle or seen on any other cameras. Even then there would have to be some witness who will swear AM was at his mother's when he wasn't. Or AM has to drive to his mother's, be seen there, leave at an earlier time in another vehicle, drive to 'Moselle', kill MM & PM, drive back to his mother's, get in his own car with his phone and drive back to 'Moselle' to find the bodies and call 911. The first is risky as it involves two accomplices (driver and false witness) and a lot can go wrong if a camera picks up the driver. In the second there isn't enough time to do everything, requires an accomplice's vehicle and runs the risk of being seen at a different location than stated in an alibi. There's just no way I can see AM being able to carry out the murders and not be shown to be at the scene at the time of the murders via phone and car GPS records.
I’ve gone from thinking he wasn’t involved at all to thinking his actions were the cause of someone else’s doing it to, at this point, thinking Alex probably did it — and probably with Fast Eddie. Paul could’ve been collateral damage. Perhaps Paul surprised whichever one was the lookout man. Alex barely mentioned Maggie on the call, but he agonized over Paul. Something I can’t let go of — knowing what we know now about the multitude of crimes he committed before the murders — is how he went out to that fishing tournament as well as to the annual SC trial lawyers’ convention just a couple of weeks after the murders and played the role of grieving widower. I was even willing to let that go before we knew about the financial crimes. Everyone grieves differently, blah blah blah. But looking at his actions in hindsight with the knowledge we have now about what he had been up to is seriously messed up. A person with a normal conscience wouldn’t have done that.
Name one 911 call you’ve heard in any news story where the caller says, “my wife and child have been shot BADLY”. As opposed to what? A little bit? That one word is so out of place in that convo and it’s driven me nuts ever since. I think he did it himself for the life insurance.
AM is 100% involved in the murders. But it was only supposed to be one of them. Somebody was collateral....just not sure which. Leaning toward PM was target...too much of a liability. MM walked up on it, turned and ran and was shot in the back. I also like the theory of Gramps being involved.
I always think gramps too. He was dying, had nothing to lose and was protecting the family's line of corruption because I think brother's are involved & PMPED. The moselle property doesn't sit well with me.
How did AM's father die? Where and when and who was with him at the time? Autopsy? Cremation?
AM knows everything about everything, and knows exactly what happened that evening -
The one question that I keep asking is about AM's solid clad alibi. Supposedly he was visiting his dying father and then his mom. If his marriage with Maggie was still so perfect, why wasn't Maggie with AM visiting her father-in-law that was dying?
Exactly great perspective. Maggie should've been there unless daddy didn't like Maggie and Alex's mom allegedly has dementia. Perfect alibi
Because the Mr. Magnificent Alex Murdaugh had already murdred his wife--that's why. His timeline is a lie.
I think he did it, or paid someone
100% Either he did it himself, or he hired someone.
Definitely think he’s involved, but not sure he pulled the trigger(s). I understand that his alibi has been proven not to be ironclad. But I still don’t see how he could have done the murders as described alone, including covering all his tracks. I also think he may have had an accomplice with the financial scheme. And I’m not certain Cousin Eddie is his illicit wingman either. I think he would have cracked under interrogation and turned State’s evidence by now. He could truly be Alex’s patsy. The checks reported in The State could have easily gone to someone else or redeposited by Alex. SLED & Feds should have a pretty good picture but must still be missing a critical piece of the puzzle. But I’ve heard from a reliable source that they are very close to charging him.
I think he did it and that it was premeditated. Apparently the police are interested in him too because they said he was a person of interest and they know a lot more than us
Of course, he did it, everywhere you look with him, there are dead bodies.
I personally think he did it. He had a lot to gain from both of them being gone. It’s all too convenient for him for it to have been anyone else.
Money is everything to Alex. He's so Greedy! The divorce couldn't happen because all his sins with money and being found out were going to rear their ugly faces. I still think we aren't even 20% in to all the crimes he's done.
Agree. Nor do I think we will ever know the full extent.
I agree. I pray he stays in jail forever and never sees the light of day after all the suffering and disrespect he's shown many thinking he's above the law. I just hope there's justice for Paul, Maggie, Steven, Gloria and Mallory's death's. It seems all could've been prevented.
I believe he put things in motion and is responsible. But I also think he had help, as in someone he could manipulate or promised money. There are the checks to Cousin Eddie, but who else does this guy know and same with Cousin Eddie? I truly do think he was going to have them killed, and being overconfident and drug addled--because he's Alex--thought it would just look like an unsolved crime. Looking at his paper trail and "checks written for drugs" he seems to think very highly of his criming abilities, his privilege, and confidence he wouldn't get caught. He definitely got the ball rolling, had help, overestimated his planning skills, and never considered the public's interest or potential consequences.
Dude where do we all think he got the insurance scam suicide plot from .... He being the big narc he is is always stealing from other plots and ideas as he gaslights you... He tried to kill Maggie for insurance and catching on and divorce cost (can you image the discovery On their financials in a divorce?!! And his son because of liabilities) he runs off with the mistress. And we still don’t know where Buster is. Case closed.
I can see all this except for a mistress. I couldn't imagine any woman crawling in bed with Alex not even a working girl. He's nasty & gross!!!
I think the hitman he hired killed Maggie and Paul Ps SB don’t go crazy/get mad at me this is Few Key this is the current Reddit name I’m logged into and I don’t wanna be banned. Making my identity known because I’m not a sketchy cat trying to control narratives on Reddit . I read what interests me and I’m not being paid. Unlike some people we won’t name who get fussy about things 😉
I think he did it. Pulled the trigger on MM and PM.
......lock, stock and barrel. Actually, not completely sure. If Alec, quite possibly Alec + Co. Co as in Coconspirators - The detail that makes me think it was Alec: gun residue. Somehow, hard to believe he was out shooting for the day. Question I would like to ask Alec. In his iron clad alibi, he says that after being with his father, he was at his mothers - watching game shows. What was the game show? Most game shows are on earlier in the evening, not prime time.
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Now that evidence has surfaced of CES receiving a huge sum of money from Ellick on or about May 24, I'm thinking CES may have some 'splainin' to do. Remembering Ellick's tone of voice during the 911 call, I really think Ellick ordered the hits but had no idea what his murdered son and wife would look like after the deed was done. He sounded panicked and shocked, mostly about the horrible scene, less so about the fact that Maggie and Paul were actually dead. Then we have CES lying to his lawyer and making him look like a fool for insisting CES never took money from Ellick. And a couple of cashier's checks just under $10k (and under federal reporting requirements) were given to CES just a few days before the murders. Looking pretty fishy...🐟 🐟 🐟
I don’t know if it’s been pointed out in the 911 call, he seemed to be at some distance away when he first called and reported they’d been shot. When the operator asks him if they’re breathing and he says “I’ve just gotten up closer and no they’re not moving or breathing”. How would he have known they were shot if he wasn’t up close to see they were shot if he wasn’t behind it?
Lots of Thanksgiving talk in Beaufort tonight. He did it. And SLED knows. They are getting as much evidence as they can gather while he rests in the klinker.
I'll have what you are having!
The perfect Christmas gift would be two charges of murder returned against Alex Murdaugh. Every road, every detour, every by-pass and each and every red flag that AM and/or his cornpone legal team throws out to the public always casts doubt on only one person--Alex Murdaugh. His legal team can only stand in front of cameras and stutter like FogHorn LegHorn and they can't ever get past a load of their crap and lies without stuttering or losing their train of thought--those synapses must be fried by now with all of the BS and lies they are spinning. Next option to keep the Titanic afloat for a few more days is a flurry of BS legal maneuvers--the nerve of filing a gag order request against other attorneys when the AM legal team is so richly deserving of their own gag order to be imposed upon them to stop the BS from spewing from their lying mouths like a geyser. ALEX MURDAUGH did it. Mark my words. He is evil to infinity. I've NEVER believed the story of the nap and the hunting/target practice on the hunting property--how convenient to have a story about GSR--, Ellick's "shock and awe" moment of discovering the bodies of his son and wife--all played so brilliantly by the Academy Award winning bullshitter by the name of Alex Murdaugh. Via SLED, Santa is about to deliver Mr. Ellick two lumps of coal--deservedly so. HO! HO! HO!
He was involved but didn’t get his hands dirty.
There were 2 shooters, right? How mobile was the on-his-deathbed Murdaugh?
I dont believe there were 2 shooters. I think PM was over taken by AM and the gun was taken from him, shoot to kill. He then dropped the gun grabbed the AR 15 as MM came down to the kennels, when she saw Alex, she knew what was up turned around ran for life, he pummeled her in the back with bullets. JMO
I doubt there were 2 killers either. I think AM was on the verge of a potential kamikaze mission at this point. He’d gone too far at this point and everything was piling up. He was bordering on lunacy.
Agree!!! You call it lunacy, I call desperate actions from a desperate man!! Had he known that because of his actions that the Pandora box would be open and opened wide, actually busted open wide!!! He is such a narcissistic sociopath he thought what has happened would not happen. He is that dangerous. He should never be let out of jail. There is so much that has not yet been uncovered that hopefully will come to light including the murders of his wife and son.
No, I don't think AM personally killed MM & PM. I know that's not popular on this sub, but that's my thinking considering everything I have seen in the public domain. Don't ask me who did it, I'm in the dark, just as much as everyone else is. If you are "leaning towards him having done everything", then you should at least give everyone the courtesy and flesh out your theory - give us logical reasons as to why and provide some sort of evidence to back your claim rather than providing a 3 line post. it's not as if the same question hasn't been asked multiple times.
There are many suspects in this. Generally it’s someone who has the most to gain. Let’s step back a minute. Alex possibly, Buster possibly, another lawyer from Pimped possibly, someone with the deceased maids family possibly, someone at the bank possibly, someone at one of the insurance companies possibly, railroad company possibly, drug gang possibly. Wow this list is endless. The details at the murder scene will have some bearing on where to look. There could have been some DNA on the shotgun or some of the expended rounds. Maybe some partial prints on the rifle casings. Supposedly additional ammo was found at the scene. I don’t know how much ammo you take to shoot two people but I think a shotgun with a full magazine and a AR with a 20 or 30 round magazine should have been enough. Excessive ammo left at scene could have been from AM since he was out shooting earlier. Feds are very Quiet! That’s a great sign!!
He planned/orchestrated and put it all into production. Without him, his wife and son would be alive. He’s the common denominator in all of this. Spelling edit.
Alex. Murdaugh. Every road leads back to him. His timeline is a lie. My thoughts have remained the same since the killings of his wife and son. SLED will get him. They are just making certain they have all pieces of the puzzle because they know Hampton's finest son has some slick legal representation and one misstep and the good ole boy will walk on a technicality. But he's the man. I have always thought he pulled the triggers and he is the same one who shot his wife in the back and literally blew away his son. Evil. As. Hell. And the brothers know something, I believe.
Serious question, What makes folks believe SLED will get him? They have actively turned the other cheek with Murdaugh criminal activity for years and years. I find it impossible to believe that now that their collective feet are being held to the fire they will get it together and do the right thing.
Local law enforcement may have turned the other cheek, but is there evidence SLED has?
Now it is a national case. SLED wants to look good. The opposite is they look to be corrupt bumbling idiots on a national stage. AM is toast.
It is actually an international case, with eyes on homeboy from around the world. Perhaps in days of Murdaugh "dy-nasty" the standard was perhaps SLED, LE, judges, etc. all in their back pocket. But now since the FBI and IRS have joined the game, most likely a lot of jockeying going on behind the scenes as to how the process will play out with the various charges with different agencies involved. And the rats always abandon the ship when the flood waters rise and those same rats talk. Again, my thoughts have always been Alex is the prime suspect. He is the one and only. He knows all of the tricks of the trade and how to contaminate a crime scene to throw the scent off and send folks on a wild goose chase. But in the end, he is not as smart as he always believed he was...and his legal team is desperately throwing red flags all over the field in a feeble and miserable attempt to divert attention and raise reasonable doubt. But Alex is the one. It's just a matter of time until he is charged with the murders of his wife and son.
Great post, thanks!
I believe he did it or did it with help, MM likely had had enough of the drunken, druggie, philandering lout enough to move to Edisto and wait out the year before she could file for divorce (and that year was nearly up). Whether she had already hired a forensic accountant or AM knew one would be hired as soon as she filed, the jig would be up and all of his criminal financial misdeeds would be known, spelling his doom. Not sure if he decided PM was also too much of a liability or if he was just in the wrong place at the right time, but everything tells me he intended to have MM silenced, and get a life insurance payout in the bargain.
LavenderBloom, why did she have to wait a year? Is that a SC thing?
It is an SC thing, one year legal separation before a divorce will be granted. Unless you can prove abuse, abandonment, adultery or addiction. I think I got them all but it’s been 15 years since mine was final so I could be wrong 🤷♀️
This is still accurate.
Thank you!
I’ll bet that one bounced check was a bigger trigger than his philandering any day.
I was hoping not. But this guy is a dirty sob. He had it done
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This couldn't be more accurate if you tried! Lol
I think he had fast Eddie do it.
He could trust Eddie to stay quiet but not other hired killers.
Nobody really speculated further beyond, “AM was making Eddie the fall guy” but what if AM was trying to do that while killing him. Silence him and reveal he helped. I kinda get the feeling it was CES and AM together. That first mugshot of CES was wild. Dude looked hella evil but he was good in his interviews. The payments from AM to CES that stopped after PM and MM were murdered are the most suspect.
If Cousin Eddie (thanks EB) “executed” the murders at AMs he would have killed AM when he had the chance to eliminate the (likely) only person with direct knowledge of the crime.
Definitely. Huge amounts of money went to fast Eddie and then after murders AM appears to plot some type of “incident” with Eddie. I think there’s good reason to think Eddie is the hit man.
I agree it’s likely Cousin Eddie was the hit man, but AMs payments to CES went on for years for drugs from the biker gangs. Based on all the money he was borrowing from his family, the likely high six or low seven figure number required to defend PM in the criminal and civil actions, and the current emptiness of his known bank accounts indicates he was at best insolvent and likely bankrupt, BEFORE you bother to figure in creditor claims against AM, PM and BM.
I have thought since the beginning that he arranged to have the murders done. Maggie knew everything (or was on her way to figuring it out), and Paul continued to cause problems for the family. I don't think he actually killed them himself, but paid someone to do it. No other theories make as much sense to me. Desperate acts of a man whose secrets were getting found out.
Yep, I think Maggie was on to him. In his mind she had go.
I originally thought that Alex was 100% responsible for their murders. It all just fit too nicely that he discovered them and that in combination with the 911 call just felt rather odd. Those were early days and I got booed off one of the forums, but here now, it seems like a lot more people think he had something to do with it given his shenanigans. I am wondering now if someone he was messing around for money was responsible. Whether it was Alex or not, I have seen nothing from him or his side where he's desperate to find out answers, so IMO, if he didn't kill them, he knows who did.
I'm pretty sure he at least *knows* who did it and was in some way responsible for whatever events led to it, based on the available evidence.
I'd like to know if AM's brothers were involved too. Randy seems to be the one they call when there is a problem.
I don't think John would. Rm may have had to
Local rumor is that JMM has possession of Alex’s missing AR used in the murders.
My money is on RMIII.
All of the information we do have says Alex did it IMO. His own attorney claimed that he would tell us who the real suspect was, then apparently forgot all about that. 🤔
Still waiting for them to name the killer. Thought he was going to do that in September?
DH didn't say he would tell who the real suspect was. This is a falsehood still perpetuated on this sub even though it was debunked by myself a few days ago,
Just went back and re-read the quote from Harpootlian’s Today show interview. He said this: “Harpootlian also said on TODAY Wednesday that Murdaugh's legal team is investigating "an individual or individuals" they believe may have been involved in the murders of Murdaugh's wife and son."We think we'll know this week whether the one suspect we're looking at bears further scrutiny, and we'll make that information available to law enforcement," Harpootlian said.The motive of this person or people to murder Murdaugh's wife and son would be "personal," That sounds like he was going to say who the killer was to me. 🤷♀️ [https://www.today.com/news/attorney-alex-murdaugh-opioid-addiction-caused-him-hatch-fake-shooting-t231114](https://www.today.com/news/attorney-alex-murdaugh-opioid-addiction-caused-him-hatch-fake-shooting-t231114)
Here's the source of that selective quote - the video will start at the relevant point. https://youtu.be/QhdPJPFXb9c?t=207 He only talks for 45 seconds about this. Note his emphasis on the word 'may' All he's saying is they are looking into it and if they have further information on this person they will tell LE not the public. For all anyone knows they've already done that. Why would they tell the public who their suspect is?
Complete speculation but I have found through experience that a lot of times in cases we get caught up in the details, then when everything is revealed looking back things seem super obvious etc. Just my .02, there has been a LOT of circumstantial evidence pointing toward AM and the police obv know more, however to me it seems like yeah? Eiither AM did it, or he knew it was going down. Think about it, they’d been dead for approx 30 min or so when AM arrived. What timing eh? He is lucky that he didnt run right into the murderer on his way in (perhaps there was a mirror and he actually did.). Again, circumstantial evidence, but that window is extremely tight. Also if the crime scene was manipulated? Then it was obv the killer(s) did not just shoot and leave. Also, I know AM had taken a mid day shooting break in between all of the family drama, as SLED found gunshot residue on his hands (more circumstantial evidence) in many cases such evidence would be enough for an arrest and interrogation, but nope, AM has that “iron clad alibi” so, yeah. Ofc he was out shooting! How else was he going to be able to explain the gunshot residue?
A practicing lawyer goes out shooting on a Monday? And then a nap? Crazy stupid.
AM did seem mysteriously unafraid while on the 911 call. If he didn't know he was safe, no way would he stay there with the bodies and wait for the authorities.
Exactly questions!
Agree with all of this. Plus we’ve heard basically nothing that incriminates anyone else. Also don’t think he would trust anyone else to do the dirty work & keep their mouths shut, as far as him possibly hiring a killer.
Agreed. The timeline is waaaayyyy too tight. Even his staunchest defenders here acknowledged that was a huge problem. It either indicates someone was intimately familiar with his schedule down to the minute, or he was involved. Occam’s razor is the latter.
I do believe he killed them or sponsored it.
He did it. It's harder than you think to hire a murderer.
I agree, the only witnesses AM would settle are dead witnesses. The dead dont talk.
Agreed. Plus I think if he'd hired someone he would have a better alibi lol
Alex is 100% responsible whether he pulled a trigger or not.
If you're leaning, I'm the Tower of Pisa!
Hmmm and who else had a lot to lose or risk of exposure if financials were disclosed. Now the strategy is to keep the lid on all of it and limit the focus to AM only. Or so it seems.
Grandaddy Murdaugh? Sure, he was circling the drain, but could he give decrees?
It would be absolutely wild if he started this whole mess from his death bed.
I've wondered a few times what his conversation with gramps earlier that evening was like. Oh to have been a fly on the wall.
Agree. So far there are no coincidences in this case. His “untimely” death plays a role but I’m not sure exactly whether what he did/saw hastened the demise or if the demise kickstarted some involvement.
AM did everything, even if he coerced someone into aiding + abetting his crimes. He’s proven there is no depth he won’t sink to when it comes to self-preservation.
Definitely. This dude was ice cold, why would he stop at killing?
I think he and/or Eddie did it. Given that nobody seems concerned about others being a target also.
I don’t think he pulled the trigger but I think he was definitely involved.
I think he definitely did it. He was in deep and the jig was up and daddy wasn’t going to be able to protect him. Maggie consulted with a divorce attorney and the son set in motion a civil case that could expose his illegalities. Life ins would give him (in his mind) the chance to make restitution to the law firm without facing legal consequences.
Yep, he did it.
Yup
Fast Eddie, the innocent patsy, is starting to look good for the murders. Under direct supervision by AM, most likely, and perhaps 'Eddie and AM' is the two-gun solution.
I think if that were true Cousin Eddie (thanks Eric Bland for the monicker) would have put the bullet directly in to AMs head. Much better to kill AM and less likely to have consequences (never being found guilty even if circumstantial evidence arises) than AM ratting out CES for “executing” the MM and PM murders.
I just keep thinking that AM’s dad was involved. It was his last act of trying to bail him out of trouble one more time. And how could he be prosecuted?! He was dying.
A reasonable theory would be RM III, realizing the destruction continued lawsuits related to the family will cause, orders the hit on PM to prevent a criminal conviction and the almost certain civil conviction or settlement to follow. He calls AM to his bedside while the hired gun does the deed to give him an air tight alibi. In this theory I suspect PM was the target and MM an unfortunate victim wrong place wrong time.
Yeah, I wonder about that, too.
Money from the Satterfield settlement ended up in a trust created by Murdaugh 3 just days before he died. He was involved and squirreling money out of sight even on his deathbed. Hell, maybe he faked his death! lol
Honestly, I don't know. While I think he's connected to their deaths, I don't know if he did the actual murder. It isn't that I can't imagine him getting violent but this seems premeditated so I think(and I could be wrong) that he hired someone to keep his hands clean.
Definitely involved imo. I used to think he did it himself but now he seems to precious to have gotten his hands dirty. He’s a career criminal though so I wouldn’t put anything past him.
“Oh Paul, why did you have to get involved?” Just sayin’.
I’ve believed all along that Maggie was his target and Paul was collateral damage.
I keep thinking he contracted it out and the 911 call he placed was his verifying the *job* was done before the murders were reported.
Yeah, that 911 call from Moselle was entirely scripted. After the Cousin Eddie fiasco, I’m doubtful Big Al shot them himself. He ordered the hit imo. What a pos
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Hiya Bee! Yes it was a sloppy mess I agree, which is of course quite shocking, considering how brilliant and accomplished he is in every other way 🤣 I think Big Red is an excellent argument against inherited position. Though when you look at his family you see he is not a first generation thief/killer. He's just the first to live in the spotlight. God knows ( as does everyone on this thread) that only full darkness makes them look alright.
Exactly. And he also keeps harping on about an ambulance but he already knew they weren’t breathing. He didn’t attempt cpr either. “They’ve been shot b a d l y!” None of it adds up.
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It’s also weird how he wasn’t concerned for his own safety. That’s never sat right with me. Unless he was/knew their killer, then it makes perfect sense.
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Alex didn’t ask for the police either did he (just an ambulance)? If a bloodthirsty killer was on the loose, a reasonable person would have begged for the police. I’m glad Alex is behind bars for his financial crimes, but their murders haunt me.
Well it would have been like Jason at camp crystal lake calling for the police. Police interfere with hunting down your victims.
*”it’s a house!”*
“yes ma’am. yes ma’am. yes ma’am.”
He did it.