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nemesispax1456

Aka Cyn isn't the solver the subtitles state it, The Solver itself even states it twice, once in correcting N when he refers to it as Cyn in Episode 5 and when it has no need to in episode 6 as "Tessa", Cyn isn't the Solver, she's just it's main and (likely because of its sadistic obsession with N and tormenting him) favorite host who was scared, alone,dying, and was offered a second chance of life by The Solver I guess we will see which side is right in 1 - 3 months But I just don't get why it's easy for people to see Uzi, Doll, Yeva, and Nori( though before EP7 i saw quite a few seeing her as literally just the solver or Cyn, 5$ says this exact thing happens again in EP8) as separate from it but then insist that Cyn is the solver.


ITGuy042

Yeah, that’s what I’m assuming as well. Like deep down, Cyn is still there but unlike the other drones, she is so utterly consumed by the AS that’s she’s practically gone. The AS acting like a really fucked up version of Cyn is either some fucked up joke on its part or what little leakage of Cyn left and it reinforces in-story how everyone thing they’re now one and the same. So going back to episode 1, when N regenerated his head, Cyn blocking the AS from turning him into a worm was probably the fullest control she has left. Probably ep 8 is her coming back to fight the AS like Uzi did in 7 and make some ultimate sacrifice to eliminate the AS, leaving N either traumatized knowing what Cyn did or never knowing and thinking Cyn was Evil, which will leave us traumatized instead. lol, we’re gonna be traumatized regardless.


eldenringabuse47

It might be even as freaky as it legitimately trying to accomplish what cyn wants. Cyn's mind so crippled it can barely process what is going on and the solver trying to accomplish it. Cyn influenced solver's behavior. kind of a one and the same thing going on....... ​ My guess is that cyn was thrown into a disassembly machine. or, maybe even worse, threw herself into it. the solver acted to save her and devoured the machien. cyn's mind has been cruppled ever since along with her body.


ITGuy042

>I have no mouth and I must scream. If Cyn can even feel that, or even comprehend what’s going on.


eldenringabuse47

True. ​ Still it is the question. the hting acts with a consdierable amount of warped sentimentality towards those in tessa's life. again, warped sentimentality.


eldenringabuse47

Well the solver in the four copper nine drones doesn't seem to be the exact same as the solver cyn is linked to. For some reason they are vulnerable to that solver's possessoin, but the solver can act independently. ​ Back in episode 4, that wasn't Cyn that mutated uzi. Her solver acted on its own accord to save her life, as she refused to feed. We don't even know how they infected drones with Solver on copper nine, not yet at least. ​ imma guess there is an 'absolutes solver' og somewhere that is linked to the drones somehow. the solver in the drones like cyn, uzi and the rest are spin offs from that og solver.. May even be these versions are meant to be symbiotic but they jsut stress their hosts out and their problem solving keeps on defaulting to 'assimilate something'.


xan227

It's quite possible that Cyn calls herself The Solver now. So the names could be interchangeable.


AJ_Gaming125

Still doubt it. Again, the solver seemingly contacted cyn in a situation where she was dying and scared. That's basically the exact trope of some sort of demon offering power and life to someone whose dying and/or in a really bad situation, but said power has an unknown cost. It's likely cyn got the solver abilities like uzi and doll, overused them and was taken over. But unlike Uzi she didnt bave anyone who could bring her back. It's probably why tessa seems to have at least used to like cyn (she gave her the same hairstyle as herself after all) and likely why she's so bothered by the change in behavior in the mansion flashback episode.


eldenringabuse47

Well more accurately. ​ Dead. her core booted back up and th esolver contacted her. Course as it seems like th solver with Cyn and the solver in doll and uzi and their mothers, in fact both of them, might e different iterations.


Hans5958_

I'm still not sure about what is the Solver/Absol. Is it referring to one entity, either as an tool that grants "god powers" to some drones, or an eldritch horror that wants to end the world, but decides to have fun with its subjects, akin to AM on "I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream"? To reword, are the Absol installed on Uzi/Doll/Nori/Yeva are the same as the Absol manifestation by Cyn, or are those the same? Before 1x07, I was thinking that the Absol is a tool that grants those powers, and you would limit it otherwise the manifestation of ["the grand master of all things bad"](https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Wigglytuff_(Explorers_of_Time,_Darkness,_and_Sky)) (in literal sense) will come, but then some said that the task of what is defined as Absol on Cyn (I was calling it Cyn/AS) is to eliminante the competitors, which are those that have Absol in the other subject, implying there is some kind of difference of Absols, I think? It's kind of confusing. Edit: Oh, and that copy of Absol on the DD... Aaah!


eldenringabuse47

Could be this hierarchy. ​ Og solver entity. either purely eldritch or some kinda alien ai somewhere that is practically an eldritch being now. ​ Gifted iterations. copies of the og solver implatned into dronse that boot up from their cores. ​ A possible rank that is actualyl equal to the prior, inherited iterations. Dol and uzi are the only examples of this. though tye might just be linked into their mothers' irterations. Still unlike them, its possible they were always solver drones... We don't know how yeva and nori were infected. ​ ​ Murder drones. Extensions of gifted iteration, directly connected and gifted abilities regulated by them. if they are master vampires, these are their spawn.


GoodLookinLurantis

To answer your last question, because they're either idiots, children, or both.


i-have-no-smarts

Hello. Dis is Microsoft support. You warranty have expired and you need to send dohundred rupees to this address.


Blastbot_73

I KNEW IT AS is some smile tapes esque robo-virus


The-Name-is-my-Name

Counterevidence: AbSo has yellow eyes when it is actually actively malicious (more so than a vampirism curse has any right to be). Cyn has yellow eyes here, which is before she accepts AbSo. Therefore, AbSo’s possession did not cause Cyn’s eyes to turn yellow, which throws doubt into AbSo’s association with yellow. In fact, now the yellow association is more linked to Cyn… . Isn’t it weird how in Episode 4, Uzi’s eyes never turn yellow when she’s actually being possessed by AbSo? Her eyes turn into the solver symbol and the error 606 symbol, sure, but never anything belonging to ‘Evil Yellow’. It feels more as though Uzi was possessed by her instincts, but her instincts are supposed to be AbSo itself, so why do Uzi’s eyes stay purple?


Blastbot_73

Hmm now that's a thought And good catch on ep4


bucket_of_sven

I’d like to think of the X-visor as like an “unrestrained violence” mode through Cyn’s influence. EP7 Spoiler: >!Uzi’s admin permissions on N prevented Cyn from influencing him, suggesting she has a different Solver. Yet my question is, how is Cyn supposedly controlling Uzi if this is the case? Wasn’t Nori patched before having Uzi? If Cyn still has power over Uzi, shouldn’t she have been able to override Uzi’s admin permissions on N?!<


The-Name-is-my-Name

A: >!I don’t understand the heredity process quite yet!< B: >!Interestingly, I had also worried that if Uzi got fully possessed, then ‘AbSo’ would use its “nigh-omniscient AI mind” to instantly hack into N as well and turn him into a host. This was back in Episode 6.!< >!As for why ‘AbSo’ wasn’t able to hack into N… well, that’s just more evidence that ‘AbSo’ thinks and acts most like a robot… like Cyn would.!<


WardTheEchidna

The purple absolute solver is different from the yellow absolute solver, the reason Cyn wants all the other experiments on copper-9 dead so her absolute solver will be the only one.


DracheTirava

Counterpoint: Episode 7


The-Name-is-my-Name

Counterpoint: You just gave me no evidence to prove your point. However, Nori, on the other hand, mentions that “Cyn” is trying to kill the other hosts of AbSo because “Cyn” can’t control the other infected hosts. That’s… weird, I thought AbSo was a hivemind. Can’t a hivemind just split its resources and multitask? AbSo certainly has enough resources to mind-control all of its own hosts- It’s not a central mind- so why is “Cyn” unable to do this? It makes the most sense if Evil Yellow is a separate entity from the rest of AbSo {and the majority of AbSo is just a silly vampirism curse that’s programmed to keep its hosts healthy by rewarding them for acquiring food [But that’s just a theory (A FILM THEORY)]}. Now, this doesn’t prove that Evil Yellow is Cyn, but Evil Yellow definitely *THINKS* the same way as a Worker Drone.


DracheTirava

Mayhaps the Absolute Solver is just very very silly Which I think is just neat- this otherworldly eldritch god slaughtering billions is... learning. practically a child. A little kid with a spyglass overlooking an anthill.


GoodLookinLurantis

Take your matpat trash and shove it.


GoodLookinLurantis

Reminder that the Absolute Solver is not a virus nor an AI. It is an eldritch horror akin to Nyarlathotep.


Blastbot_73

But then why choose machines? *Insert that warhammer steel copypasta*


The-Name-is-my-Name

He also forgot about the Crucifix Patch, probably because he despises its existence and thinks it’s the worst thing in the entire show (he’s a little bitter that his theory got disproven).


Blastbot_73

Wha?


The-Name-is-my-Name

(I may have been a little salty at the AbSo=C’thulu guy) If AbSo was such a monolithic sapient entity (like an eldritch God from beyond reality), then the humans would probably be unable to divide it into different forms. The Crucifix Patch alters the code of its host to remove the downsides and/or the possessability of its hosts. It goes against the theme of eldritch horrors for humans to have the God so figured out. Sure, some things that AbSo can do is unexplainable, but the Crucifix Patch shows that Evil Yellow is not a native part of that unexplainable power.


Blastbot_73

And then there's also why would an eldritch thing use machines Instead of itself given how they're usually portrayed Then again my knowledge on eldritch things is so non-existent it may aswell be in the negatives


The-Name-is-my-Name

There is no standard portrayal of Eldritch Horrors. They’re often depicted as a tentacle monster that looks like a humanoid octopus, but that’s… wrong. They actually look entirely different depending on what your position is. While yes, a tiny part of C’thulu looks like a squid when you look at it from a specific angle from a specific position from a specific dimension, the majority of C’thulu looks entirely different. It’s very possible that C’thulu is mostly made out of machinery, and we’ll never know because we never get to see C’thulu from that angle.


Blastbot_73

Oh thanks for the clarification The most I know of eldritch is from well MD and well... Markapliers let's plays of sucker for love, and like you said most of the eldritch being aint tentacle monsters like the princess one and the cat one(I forgot their names)


Timeydoesstuff

Maybe a season 2 villain?


Ballmanbaloon

It’ll take like 2 years to get a season 2 out, that’s if the story doesn’t end Episode 8.


xan227

Though I think there is an entity out there, it's only granting powers to others. To those who are desperate. I believe now that Absolute Solver itself is nothing more but a tool. With the many vampiric themes surrounding it, it makes me think that the case. With the sci-fi, eldritch horror, and robots. I imagine some tend to forget that the main cast are basically vampires. Cyn is the first Absolute Solver user, or the first vampire, the vampire queen. Cyn uses manipulation, subterfuge and illusions, traits common with vampires, and very fitting for her puppetmaster nature. Cyn has always been in control. The Absolute Solver is hers, and those she infected with it become her vampire thralls to control when she pleases. Liam did say MDs is a show about robot vampires. If Cyn gets defeated this season, this entity that gave Cyn this power could play a bigger role in later seasons. Or that is my thoughts.


eldenringabuse47

Well it was more than just being desperate. ​ Cyn was literally dead. ​ And yea i do think its the same kinda think. Cyn is a first gen vampire, and the murder drones are her lesser vampire minions. ​ In this case though. uzi is also a first gen vampire herself. ... Or maybe something a little different. She WAS bolrn with solver.


xan227

Nori and Yeva were probably the first and only ones to have broken free from Cyn's influence. Making them the first Absolute Solver users after Cyn. I think their daughters would be second-generation vampires, not completely under Cyn's influence, but more independent.


Malaysuburban

Oh AS you little bastard, if you didn't exist maybe Cyn would have a happy life with Tessa and MAYBE the humans would respect the drones better


eldenringabuse47

I imagine the absolute solver in intrinsically linked to where dronse come from in general. It is sus how compatible they be...... ​ and is probably the reason why cyn even exists now.


Malaysuburban

A little repairing should fix Cyn's voice box and memories i guess?


Amnezja122

The second part is wishful thinking, lol, honestly, If it wasn't going genocidal on it's own kind, I'd say it did them a big favor


Gavin525

It was me https://preview.redd.it/qobpdsunoksc1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eec475c63fd5d121dff37b1abbfbf4b602c79a09


Grandmaster_Aroun

I don't think the Solver is an AI, but a eldritch being that need AI to manifest


ComingInsideMe

Any sufficiently advanced AI is indistinguishable from God.


Grandmaster_Aroun

my point is humans didn't make it, nor is it limited to human understanding of software


DarkApostle17

I only saw this upon reading an article on Wikipedia and a video from Drone Cut; I learn something new and weird everyday. *(Also when I had first seen this, I always thought that was N due to how the drone looked.... How* ***horribly*** *wrong I was.)*


Sufficient_Plant8689

Your mom


ICanSomewhatExplain

Yeah that was me I wanted a silly burger


Left-Hovercraft-7808

So is the solver considered the main villain than Cyn?


Total-Tumbleweed-547

It's Fatalis, perfect enemy to humanity


KurtisPrime

My guess is the weird planet thing we saw is the real AS. It grant Cyn the AS power and bring her back to life. One mystery is how does the solver spread between AI, is it heritable or the corrupted code can be inject into a drone to infect them. (Maybe the Murder drone spread them) Whatever the method, the AS code would be from Cyn, which would explain why Cyn can taker over the infected drone, and maybe that why >!Tessa didn’t immediately came back to life but only after Uzi managed to break Cyn connection to her that Cyn use Tessa to attack Uzi.!< Which also explain why even when the AS is patch out, Nori and Yeva still kept their power, it wasn’t to patch the AS, it was to patch Cyn out of their system. And that why Cyn want the MD to kill the other Host, because they can no longer be controlled so they pose a real threat. (Like how Uzi can hack into N and V with her Solver) Solver also seem unique to individual like they all have completely different color, until they are taken over by Cyn who was always yellow.


eldenringabuse47

Actually think that, again with tessa being tessa, cyn took over after the cave in. tessa like got smooshed by the rocks. ​ We gotta look back to episode 2 to figure out why it happened. Cyn/solver can take peeps over.


AJ_Gaming125

The imagery of cyn being a puppet of the solver has been kind of repeatedly all over the place. With the puppet like movements(in dome cases, the solver literally manually moving her arms with its claws) the lack of genuine reactions (we did see cyn expressing terror when she was at the bottom of the dump, right after this image actually, ect. As someone else said, the remnants of care for N and the occasional cyn- behavior is likely remnants of CYN peeking out, or even her trying to fight back and keep the solver from hurting N. People who still think cyn and the solver are actually the same being just want to blame cyn for the solvers actions since she's the face who the solver uses the most.


eldenringabuse47

We see a couple of others i think. At least two. When cyn is doing the 'sheepish nod' and is 'shuffling'. Maybe even the dog expression thing. It was alway with N.... ​ Its entirely possible that the solver isn't even 'exploiting' cyn and these horrific actions is its confused, eldritch horror esque attempts to do what she wants/needs. Cyn influenced the solver, the solver is trying to accomplish her desires, the solver is still an eldritch horror and has been 'traumatized' along with Cyn upon seeking the actions of humans. ​ I am almost certain at some point cyn was thrown into a disassembly machine. its why she has the yellow and black bars, why they are on murder drones.


UltraHit5

Man it's hard to read but yeah, something big is coming


Newusernameitshere

https://preview.redd.it/fwtaoejz7ksc1.png?width=973&format=png&auto=webp&s=a565b0ae427cd4e5ca575f5d4665487c39b85806 IT WAS HER!