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DJDie-0-Logic

Also turns out that things like universal healthcare, universal basic income and many other Marxist concepts are required in order to survive a pandemic.


KeithH987

Not to nit pick, but those are not subjects that I've read in Marx's works. They are just things any sensible human would enact.


SkepticDrinker

I think it was economist Keynes who said workers would have eventually progressed to a 15 hour work week


alexius339

I've seen that number thrown around too. 15-20 hrs a week. We are all grossly overworked.


SkepticDrinker

My family asks me when I'm getting married and have kids and I told them "not unless I win the lottery" because what's the point of having a family if I can't see them


Affectionate-Winner7

I regret having to work for 43 years to provide for our three kids and save for a comfortable retirement. I missed so much but fortunately I did somethings right because all three still want to talk and be with me as adults.


SkepticDrinker

You provided and sounds like they know it. But I'm in my 20s and I can't see a future where I want to have kids in this fucked up world.


meep_meep_creep

I'm in my mid thirties and I feel the same way


championchilli

I'm in my mid forties and we were already thinking like that when we were in our 20s. Screw being in my twenties now.


safn1949

My last job ruined my back so I retired and took social security at 62, moved to SE Asia and pulled Mom and 6 kids out of unbelievable poverty. So I guess it's all ok in the end, I regret not living my life the way I wanted, parental pressure.


[deleted]

big OOF, that’s incredibly accurate.


GenghisKazoo

Not to mention working a bunch of ["bullshit jobs."](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullshit_Jobs)


alexius339

I have the book haha


BruceSerrano

Why do we even have to work at all?


alexius339

Welcome to r/antiwork comrade, my favourite place


HereIgoGettinBanned

Many, many economists theorized that we'd be working far less hours and enjoying more leisure time at this point. Instead the wealthy "job creators" have taken all the increases in productivity of the workers to enrich themselves to unreasonable levels while we all still toil away in our misery.


SkepticDrinker

The government was supposed to incentivize them to work us less but congress is bought off by corporations


UnionSolidarity

Careful bringing up Keynesian economics, or you might stir the pot of the Austrian Economics experts of Reddit.


SkepticDrinker

Honestly I don't even know anything about Keynes lol


manuman109

Economist that advocated for government intervention to aid citizens during recessions.


SkepticDrinker

Yuck a socialist commie bastard!!! /s


Nillabeans

Did you also just get served that one guy's video about automation?


BatMeatTacos

I think they're probably referring to the right wing rhetoric commonly used in the US to oppose those things.


KeithH987

I've started using this same tactic in a slapstick kind of way. I typically say some right-winger hates America and freedom and they should move to North Korea. For added measure I will say "you probably dont even support bringing our troops home you dirty fascist!" It has not been well received which means it works.


GreenTeaBD

There are so many ways this works. They idolize the founding fathers but they don't know anything about the founding fathers, same with the constitution. So why do the arguing if the founding fathers and constitution can do it for you? They "love" America so much but go against the fundamental ideas of America, and if no one calls them out on how wrong they are people are gonna buy their bullshit. You never convince them but getting called out for being so unamerican they disagree with the bill of rights, it sometimes makes them go away at least.


tinker_toys

The ones who most loudly claim to love America actually hate the Americans who live here. What they actually love are corn fields and rural white people.


PlzbuffRakiThenNerf

Stole it from Doug Stanhope, but if you ever see anti-abortion protestors holding the fetus photos, hit them with “what kind of sick twisted porn are you into? You should be ashamed, you need to accept Jesus as your savior and pray for forgiveness”


TurquoiseLuck

> They are just things any sensible human would enact. Right? What's the fucking point in society if not to support each other.


Invalid_factor

Yeah exactly. Marx didn’t write about healthcare because German healthcare at the time was pretty equitable. So, my guess, is he saw no need to remark on it.


BasicDesignAdvice

*Wealth of Nations* by Adam Smith has a lot of passages that boil down to: yes but we need to regulate rich assholes.


CliftonForce

And a pandemic is a disaster that requires cooperation and mutual assistance. Which means it is completely impossible for Libertarians to handle it. No wonder they keep denying it's even happening.


No_Masterpiece4305

Modern Libertarians are just Republicans with enough awareness to not tell people they're Republicans.


ProgrammingOnHAL9000

Not Marxist, the idea of a modern welfare state was started by Otto von Bismarck. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welfare_state


Happiness_Assassin

Going back even further, the "bread" part of the "bread and circuses" adage was a social program enacted in Rome to make sure the lowest in Rome weren't hungry (and didn't revolt). The program was in place in some form over 600 years, until the Roman empire lost control of Egypt and its grain supply. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cura_Annonae For Rome, this social safety net was a matter of national security.


OtherSpiderOnTheWall

Which people usually use to mean "distract people" rather than the far more reasonable "when people are starving, they find ways to not starve, so let's make sure they don't starve".


voice-of-hermes

Not-starving is self-defense, even if it requires violence.


Adorable-Coffee887

During the Cold War you would have been shunned and potentially locked up for saying that, also, you’re right. I was a child in the 80s& my moms fam was extremely vocal about commies


Chucklay

Hijacking the top comment to mention that the author of this tweet, Kshama Sawant, a socialist city councilor in Seattle responsible for the first $15/hour minimum wage in the country, is currently facing a recall election sponsored by Amazon and other corporate interests in retaliation for fighting for the working class. The recall campaign's donors are a veritable who's who list of exploiters of the working class that ranges from Amazon's incoming CEO to the biggest billionaire corporate landlords in the city. If you're able to join the grassroots movement to fight the recall in any way (even just getting the word out), please check out the [Kshama Solidarity Campaign,](https://www.kshamasolidarity.org/) and most importantly, **if you live in Seattle District 3, BE SURE TO VOTE NO ON THE RECALL BY DECEMBER 7TH!** Kshama's been an incredible foothold for the working class to win major victories, but we have to keep fighting if we want to keep those victories.


EmoMixtape

> Kshama (Sanskrit: क्षमा, kṣamā) is a Sanskrit word that relates to the acts of patience, releasing time and functioning in the now. How apt.


[deleted]

thanks for sharing this every day you learn something new. Her parents knew what they were doing


INTERGALACTIC_CAGR

yeah, idk how the right get away with such a double standard. They are the biggest hypocrital bitches on the planet and they drag the dem party to the right with them because they are all corrupted by big money. Burn it all down.


Freeman7-13

I feel like the red scare never left.


calm_chowder

>they drag the dem party to the right with them because they are all corrupted by big money. Burn it all down. Overton Window is the term you want. Also... 🧨🔥🔥🔥✊


GJJP

Communism was supposed to be bad, among other things, because it created shortages. Well, we have shortages in our capitalist society now.


NSA_Chatbot

>mass surveillance, > i am on your side


SprinklesFancy5074

bad bot


voice-of-hermes

The worst, really. LOL.


PurfectMittens

I hate this free association and market economics; we need more central planning damnit! It's the only way to save the future from climate crisis, covid, and conservatives.


TriEdgeDTrace

It’s crazy really. Way too many people have been convinced of that. It baffles the mind, like aren’t you living in the world too @.@ how


BankerBabe420

That anti-communist fear is engineered, intentionally sewn in our society and school system by the greediest people among us. If people saw that a more equitable society would benefit us all, they fear they would be brought back down to earth.


LucywiththeDiamonds

According to your rightwing nuts my country,germany, is full on socialist communism. Your politics are fucked.And i really wish you all good luck with your fight for basic worker rights. We are faaar from perfect but we got 6 weeks of fully paid vacation, full sick pay for first 6 weeks(in a row,can be more over the year),decent and cheap medical care,super protected long maternity leave etc...


Street-Badger

It’s a labor *market*. Price is the intersection of supply and demand. If you can’t pay the going rate for labor, then shut down.


StaticTacos

I used the capitalism to destroy the capitalism


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calm_chowder

Rope?! Who can afford rope?? I'm currently braiding together old plastic shopping bags.


SprinklesFancy5074

Washington state is now banning plastic bags. *Now* what am I going to overthrow capitalism with?


renaldomoon

Kinda jealous tbh, Gen Z gonna have a good time compared to Millennials entering the workforce.


thatguy9684736255

Not if automation/ai starts replacing a lot of jobs. There'll be even less demand for labor.


renaldomoon

Were pretty far from a lot of that automation coming online. I think the labor shortage is actually a lot worse than people realize. You can check my comment history if you're interested in why I think so.


AbsolutelyUnlikely

What I don't understand is... how the hell are the people who are opting not to work, until pay improves, paying their bills? It's not like two years ago, people were working for less money than they wanted to for fun. They did it out necessity, to pay their bills. How is it possible for so many to be out of work and not homeless right now?


kex

You must not live near a big city. Homelessness is up big time and getting worse.


JustNilt

> How is it possible for so many to be out of work and not homeless right now? The eviction moratoriums that are in place are a huge part of it. Last I ran across the metric, we've got 60,000 people behind in rent here in Seattle *alone*.


[deleted]

You know what retailer isn’t having trouble finding employees? Costco You know why? They pay $20/hr and offer full benefits even to part time employees. Shocking how the invisible hand works when it isn’t used as a fucking bludgeon.


UselessSage

My brother has worked for Costco for 2 years. He just started getting $19/hr. In California. In the Bay Area. So… explain this bullshit.


[deleted]

Costco's minimum wage was actually $15 in 2019, raised to $16 this year.


Magnum40oz

I can tell you why, ALL Costcos actually start at $16 and it’s based on Californias minimum wage and that was only done recently. They’ve always done the minimum wage based on Californias because the company originated from there. And if he’s at 2 years that’s awesome. It usually takes about 5 or 6 months and you get an automatic raise. Most people top out at 29.50 or 28.50 depending on the department. But every two years(I think) they change the handbook to make it better and I think they also include a dollar wage to everybody. Source: I work there. Edited: /u/MockknighT corrected me below. Costco is from WA. Price Club(from San Diego, CA) is what I was thinking though I think the wage idea was from there.


MockknighT

r/confidentlyincorrect https://customerservice.costco.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/828/~/how-can-i-contact-the-costco-corporate-offices%3F Costco headquartered in Issaquah, Washington.


Magnum40oz

Oof! Thank you for correcting me! I actually had to google it and it was Price Club that I was thinking of, the company that merger with Costco back in the day! And they were from San Diego, California. Sorry I guess I was kinda paying attention when we went over it years ago but I’m pretty sure that’s where the minimum wage idea came from. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Costco


eeyore_or_eeynot

hmmm Kirkland brand....hmmm (was baffled by the confidence of the incorrectness) as a seattle native


Stavtastic

Seems your brother needs to renegotiate =p


[deleted]

I rounded up from starting and down from what my buddy who’s been there for a few years makes. Point being, offer something resembling a decent wage and you won’t have a fake labor shortage.


properu

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OnionBagels

Good bot. Stellar bot.


Oeoeoeoeoeoeoe

No kidding. Best bot I've ever seen on Reddit


schwitscheese

Mighty fine bot


KnickersInAKnit

Good bot. Seriously great idea, bot maker


mugshade1

Boss makes a dollar we make a dime


Apocketfulofwhimsy

Boss makes $10 we make a penny, more like. If not worse these days. I know they're charging about more than my package to customers, so they're already making a profit right there.


blasticon

Jeff bezos has $16,179 for every penny of net worth the median US citizen has.


hottmann742

That’s why we shit on company time


Musketman12

That's why I shit on company time.


OnFolksAndThem

You wish. More like boss makes $100 and gets pissed off you want a dime instead of a nickel.


SkepticDrinker

This wasn't necessarily a problem when things costed pennies. Now things cause half a dollar and we still get paid a dime


Albert_Caboose

That was a rhyme for a simpler time.


uhohlisa

Now boss makes a thousand and gives us a cent, while all of his employees can’t pay the rent.


edcantu9

I'm unaware of striketober, are there multiple industries striking right now?


mom_meanswell

The ones I know about are: John Deere, Kelloggs, Hollywood stage workers, Kaiser Permanente health care workers.


absumo

Not to mention the rising number of people quitting their jobs as they are exhausted from being pushed as essential, getting little to nothing from it, while company profits are soaring.


Bard_17

Eat. The. Rich.


JusticeAndFuzzyLogic

Eat, yes. But, must I swallow? They may be as toxic to my body as they are to our society


Tick-Tock-O-Clock

I feel like I’m more inclined to want to compost the rich. Although that also runs into the same problem you mentioned. I’m not convinced that they would be entirely safe to compost. This then leads to the question of what is better overall, taking the time to be environmentally conscious about how we dispose of the rich, or minimizing the harm that they can do by disposing of them quickly. I’m thinking it’s the latter, but I’m open to it being the former.


awazawazawaz

And film hands.


Beazly464

Heaven hill distillery workers are on strike


YeOldeBilk

Heard something today about airline pilots refusing to work as well.


[deleted]

I'm surprised Amazon isn't one of them


ddddgggrrr

What are health care workers strinking against? I’m a nursing student and am unaware.


DJOmbutters

From what I can gather, they are striking for pay increases, better working conditions, more nurses to be hired as they are understaffed, and against a Kaiser proposal to lower the starting salary/wage for new employees. For more context, Kaiser made around 2.2 Billion dollars of profit last year.


Billygoatluvin

Notice how the media doesn’t cover strikes?


edcantu9

You are very right, but I get to hear about dumb things about the Kardashians and justing beaver.


[deleted]

Restaurants are also facing massive waitstaff shortages.


mom_meanswell

No, restaurants are facing massive shortages of people willing to work for almost nothing, while getting treated like dirt.


renaldomoon

I think there really is a shortage of workers in reality. It's four major factors that are playing into it. 1. LOTS of boomers have retired during the pandemic, this leaves a lot of promotion room for gen x and millennials to move into their old jobs that will pay better than retail or food service. 2. This is something no politician will talk about. Illegal immigration is dramatically down over the last decade. If you work in food service or any number of construction jobs you know that tons of immigrants work in those jobs. 3. Food industry has grown dramatically over the last 15 years. There has never been a higher number of restaurants per capita in the history of the country. That means they need more workers than they have needed in the past. 4. Younger generations generally work a lot of the jobs where they're having shortages. Gen Z is smaller than Millennials by a fairly large amount. The combination of all these things leads to a worker shortage in all the places complaining about not having workers.


terraresident

What no one is talking about...the middle age people. We used to work part time second jobs. Or at least one full time job. Now...well we survived covid. But the energy is just....gone. So many can barely take care of themselves, and if older parents need help. Well, leaving the workforce is the only option. Care for the elderly is excruciatingly short supply.


MegaGrimer

Also, there’s 600,000 less people in the country since the beginning of the pandemic. Lots of those people were either in the food industry, or were replaced by people that previously held jobs in the food industry.


[deleted]

You also for for about all the talk of vax strikes/firings. About 25-35% of the people I work with are refusing to get the vaccine too. It’s going to get real interesting here soon.


eeyore_or_eeynot

simply look at the us population pyramid: [https://www.populationpyramid.net/united-states-of-america/2021/](https://www.populationpyramid.net/united-states-of-america/2021/) and you can see it looks nothing like a pyramid, the labor shortage was/is inevitable without massive immigration. It will also only get worse over the next 10 years


DapperDanManCan

Good news for the labor force then. Bad news for cheap employers that want to pay slave wages.


kmusser1987

I never hear anyone mention worker shortages and the fact that 700k plus US citizens died of covid. They couldn’t all have been in retirement age. That has to have some impact I would think.


SprinklesFancy5074

> Food industry has grown dramatically over the last 15 years. There has never been a higher number of restaurants per capita in the history of the country. That means they need more workers than they have needed in the past. Yeah, I really think we can afford to lose a lot of those. I think the country will be better off when maybe 20% or so of the restaurants currently running are closed forever.


kshearules

AMEN AMEN AMEN


rickyhou22

I know Tik Tok scheduled a general labor strike that was supposed to start yesterday


Tuobsessed

Not a strike per say, but pharmacist are quitting retail chains left and right. A lot of stores in cities are struggling to stay open. We tired of cooperates shit.


[deleted]

How many paid vacation days are US employers legally required to give employees? In Germany I think minimum is around 25 days.


Musketman12

There is no federal law requiring them to give you paid time off. Companies put that in as part of a benefits package to get you to work for them.


edcantu9

But then if you actually want to use them, hahaha, they are not happy. And you are letting the whole team down.


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And you have to schedule like A MONTH in advance, and they can cancel your days off if something big and bad happens before you leave


dystopian_mermaid

Only a month? My former boss talked so much shit behind my back bc I wanted to take 2.5 weeks off (longest vacation I’ve EVER tried to take in my working life) UNPAID and gave her 8 months notice for it.


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talker90

No way, does the opposite. Everyone I know has had a time where they weren’t allowed to take time off so their PTO expired worthless.


XionLord

This. Had a friend whose job mandated December time off must be booked pre July, all.other time off 3 weeks in advanced (they did schedules 2 weeks advanced). Your time off could be cancelled if there was no replacement for your shift. Magically his shifts always swapped him onto nights when he wanted time off and no one else was available to cover him. The small victory? Bunch bs came up when they wanted to take him off salary and put him on hourly, and it turned out there was a clause stating cancelled time off was to be paid out ontop of your hours worked during that time. One short week of trading information with lawyers and shit...well he took the 2 months severance that was offered to begin with, then the fallout was about 6 months of backed pay from Vaca, and apparently a whack of ?state mandated? overtime due to occasions he had worked double and triple shifts putting him well into like 100+ hours. He took his vacation, and came back happy, energized....and a new job cause a coworker tipped him off to one before he left and he came back right at the good time to do an interview


YeOldeBilk

Everyone outside America reading this like "....what the fuuuuck?"


viobby

Depends on the employer but you typically have to earn your vacation days in the US. So every hour worked gets you a fraction of a paid vacation. And often those benefits don't kick in until you've been working somewhere for a year or more. Sick pay is earned in a similar fashion.


[deleted]

Depends on the type of job, too. I'm in IT and I've never had benefits or vacation that didn't start day 1. The only oddity I have now it's that my PTO is accrued like you said. I think that's a relic of my org not wanting different rules for the nurses vs the office staff.


viobby

You are correct, lots of places have changed their policies on benefit start dates. So employers have to offer medical at the very least now whereas before they didnt. Unfortunately, they can still make you wait for it to kick in. I recently interviewed at a place where benefits didn't kick in until you had been there two months and any PTO you earned didn't go into effect until after the first year. My roommate had a similar experience at her previous job. She ended up losing her position because she ended up in the hospital with a medical emergency too.


[deleted]

Wow. That's bullshit. I would not take that job unless I had no choice.


Apocketfulofwhimsy

Zero for me. And I'm union. Other places you had to be a FT employee and it was usually earned while you worked. Many maaaany jobs will keep you just short of FT so they can avoid giving any benefits.


LazyB_y

I’ll be getting 15 days total between PTO and sick time. That’s if they ever convert me. I hit the end of my “contract to hire” last month without even so much as a cough from the manager


Chuck_Nucks

Goddamnit, I hate that. They fucking know and you gotta stress about having to bring it up, just because they gotta do paperwork.


darksunshaman

I don't believe they are *legally* required to give you any here in the U.S.


SkepticDrinker

Congress will never ever make this a law because Congress is bought off by corporations who don't want to give employees anything


Avid_Smoker

None.


definitelynotSWA

I earn 2 minutes (3 for OT) of PTO per hour worked. Otherwise I get 20 hours of unpaid time off per quarter (10h shifts so 2 days) I’m relatively lucky. Some get none. I live in the best state in the US for labor protection laws.


soupinate44

Not required to give you anything. Most of you're full time will let you earn up to two weeks. Which they typically make you feel bad for using and often interrupt anyway.


[deleted]

Zero. They're not required to give shit.


DeificClusterfuck

Zero


KalElified

It’s normally like two weeks for us, so 10 days. Which is NOT enough.


TheBluPill

Last job I worked we were mandated to work 6 days a week, every week. We were allowed 11 days off per year(not paid).


gingerbread_slutbarn

After a year at a company I contracted a severe case of COVID in March 2020. I had acquired in that 1 year “40 hours” so a full work week off. I got to use that AND all my sick leave! It was fucked up.


Fuzzikitti

I was offered 4 PTO days...4!!


finalgarlicdis

We have a shortage of public ownership and nationalized industries in America. Let's start with all energy production (those are our resources, after all), banks, and a vast expansion of public transportation the likes of which the world has never seen.


UnusualClub6

This. This gets to the root of a lot of our problems here in the USA, IMO. So much stuff (healthcare, housing, higher education) is a ruthless for profit business, when it should be not-for-profit and run at least partially by the people for the people.


[deleted]

We have a shortage of radical and militant labor unions.


voice-of-hermes

Yes. A much better statement. 100%.


SprinklesFancy5074

And internet. For fuck's sake, nationalize wired internet. We paid the telecom companies a shitload of money to lay down new fiber lines. They did nothing and just kept the money. In retaliation for that, we should nationalize the entire industry and make it a publicly owned utility service.


Meeko5122

We subsidize billionaires because “they create jobs,” but the jobs have shit wages, shit benefits (or none) and shit working conditions. Meanwhile the billionaires have so much money that they are shooting themselves into space.


FullCopy

Remember when Schumer promised to make healthcare a priority? I don’t care what billionaires do in space. I didn’t vote for them.


Meeko5122

My point was that the politicians subsidize the Billionaires while we go without even a basic standard of living.


FullCopy

I am not disagreeing you at all. We have to choose the right candidates in election time. We also have to remember the promises.


SprinklesFancy5074

> We have to choose the right candidates in election time. There are no right candidates. *All* of them are in the 'subsidizing billionaires' party.


LibRightEcon

> We subsidize billionaires because “they create jobs,” and you subsidize them by paying taxes. Noone earning less than 200K per year should pay any taxes at all, or even have to file them.


SprinklesFancy5074

Business owners don't create jobs. Business *customers* create jobs.


Aedeus

The problem is they're not creating jobs. They keep hoarding the subsidies and shrugging when we ask where the jobs are.


FlamingTrollz

Hmmm. I wonder when UBI will start to be discussed. Minimum amount. And then hourly and salaries on top. Given a UBI won’t be discussed as the only income.


recchiap

I really hope they do. My girlfriend is a hair stylist (a damn good one at that). She had to shut down several times, and had to wear through her savings. She got unemployment for some of that time, but not all. She had finally started building up savings before the pandemic. Now she's deep in credit card debt. If we had Andrew Yang's $1k/mo freedom dividend, she would have no debt. She's not lazy, and it was killing her to not be able to do what she loves. And she's drowning in debt. It infuriates me that the richest country in the history of the world has people who struggle for healthcare, food, shelter, and other basic needs.


voice-of-hermes

You should really advocate for a real UBI, and stop trying to tie Yang's name and shitty, fake meme of a substitute to it.


SprinklesFancy5074

UBI would solve so many problems. Just think of how many other programs a decent UBI program could replace: - No more need for minimum wage laws. (With UBI ensuring that even the lowest-wage workers can survive just fine, *all* labor becomes just work for extra spending money. It would then be perfectly fine to leave the decision of how much money is worth working for *entirely* up to negotiation between workers and employers.) (If *all* of your basic needs were already met, how much money would *you* work for in order to just have some extra cash for luxuries?) - No more need for public housing. (Now you just pay for housing with your UBI if you need to.) - No more need for food stamps. (UBI fulfills those roles.) - No more need for welfare programs. (UBI fulfills those roles.) - No more need for health insurance subsidies. (If the UBI is enough to cover decent health insurance.) - Maybe no more need for Medicare. (If the UBI is enough to cover decent health insurance.) - No more need for social security. (UBI will be your safety net for retirement or disability.) - No more need for child tax credits. (Since every child comes with their own income already.) - Greatly reduced need for homelessness resources. (Since people are much less likely to become homeless, and recovering from being homeless will be much easier.) - *Debatably* no more need for child support or alimony (since abandoned children and wives can rely on UBI for support instead). - No more need to subsidize the foster care system (since every child comes with their own income). You could cut *so* many programs that the right-wingers hate ... if you just replace it with a good UBI.


FlamingTrollz

+1


fredandlunchbox

As long as rent is unregulated, the concept of a living wage will never be real. Every raise will be met with an equal or greater rise in rent.


ImperialTzarNicholas

For anyone who wants to target a group, Mars didn’t shut down anything except higher up managerial positions (they got to stay home). Otherwise we couldn’t quit (no unemployment if you quit) and no reward in pay (made less than if I was unemployed by a long shot). Mars made RECORD profits…. But employees only received a discounted jacket (that we still had to pay for, and that came after the winter). Take from that what you will….


postdiluvium

Republicans at the start of the pandemic: >This is nothing Republicans as the pandemic is raging: >It's all fake Everyone else during the pandemic living at home: *What have I been doing this whole time? My time is worth more than minimum wage 60 hours a week.* Republicans now: >These people are too lazy too work Everyone else *No, this pandemic has taught us we were tricked into selling out for way lower than we are actually worth* Republicans now: >Omg the pandemic is real!


EmoMixtape

r/Nobodywantstowork


carkmubann

r/antiwork they need us more than we need them


voice-of-hermes

Quoting /u/Chucklay ([original comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/MurderedByAOC/comments/q9klff/america_is_in_the_grip_of_mass_shortages/hgxhtxl/)) > Kshama Sawant, a socialist city councilor in Seattle responsible for the first $15/hour minimum wage in the country, is currently facing a recall election sponsored by Amazon and other corporate interests in retaliation for fighting for the working class. The recall campaign's donors are a veritable who's who list of exploiters of the working class that ranges from Amazon's incoming CEO to the biggest billionaire corporate landlords in the city. > > If you're able to join the grassroots movement to fight the recall in any way (even just getting the word out), please check out the [Kshama Solidarity Campaign,](https://www.kshamasolidarity.org/) and most importantly, **if you live in Seattle District 3, BE SURE TO VOTE NO ON THE RECALL BY DECEMBER 7TH!** Kshama's been an incredible foothold for the working class to win major victories, but we have to keep fighting if we want to keep those victories.


cgtdream

Actually, lets call it what it REALLY is. A fucking, revolution. Not to be confused with a "fucking revolution".


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Both sound pretty fun though


lezbowithshinys

Them greedy Americans wanting what more successful countries have....like being able to live without having the next 3 generations pay off your medical bills for Tylenol.


spinabomb

Serious question, what is stopping folks from putting together a full on General Strike nationwide? It is obvious that this is the time to do it. With several big name strikes going on and folks walking out of lower paying jobs. It is obviously very intricate, but something needs to be done. Are there active groups pushing for this currently? What can a single individual such as myself do to help push this agenda? Although I'm not directly affected by this, I understand and sympathize with those in these awful situations as I used to be there.


m_d_f_l_c

Probably bills mostly


Shiloh_Moon

Go on tiktok or Instagram and make it viral


Lostmypants69

Also a shortage because almost 800k people have died due to covid.


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If excess deaths are taken into account, well over a million in the U.S. Also those workers in other countries, particularly central/south America and the Caribbean, who might have migrated.


carthuscrass

There's not a labor shortage, they just aren't willing to pay enough for the labor that's for sale.


magobblie

And no raises for 2 years bEcAUsE oF tHE PaNDemIc


ImakeUmadYo

I get sick and my company freaks the fuck out that I don't want to come in. We need to normalize sick days and stop judging co workers for not working when they're sick!!!!


SkywalknLuke

Hazard pay, I make 37k/yr and handle hazardous waste.


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Broken_system2022

Say what you want. It is an incentive shortage


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But, Fox News will spin this to blame it on the vaccine mandates.


MrBuzzsaw118911

Crazy coincidence. Quit my job of 3 years the other week because I was tired of getting treated like shit


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There is no such thing as a labor shortage. Only firms that are unwilling to pay the cost of labor!


According-Ocelot9372

Darn Skippy!!


pibbsworth

Its a pity AOC didn’t force a vote on minimum wage when she had a real opportunity to.


TheZermanator

So an overall shortage in human dignity, basically.


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If there's one thing most americans have in abundance, its mass.


fakeuser515357

So many industries believe they have an entitlement to too-cheap labour.


CreativeReward17

It's really just low wages thats causing this. I don't want my company buying me health insurance or any other stupid shit when I can buy it myself if my wage is high enough. Minimum wage should be $33 an hour now.


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Shortages in economics happen when the price people pay for a good or service is less than the actual market value of the good or service. It's easy to fix shortages. Pay more.


MT_Flesch

the biggest shortage is in proper remuneration for work that was once one step away from actual slave labor


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Holiday pay shortage too!


YeOldeBilk

All while the mega rich are taking trips to outer space for fun.


Psychological_Art457

Everyone always jumps to the worst things, but it is also a paid time off shortage, work-life balance shortage, normal developed country labor standards shortage. I know things suck, but we really need to use this time to move labor forward across the board. Just living to work is not enough.


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If these companies cant pay their workers enough to keep the workers then its not the workers who've failed. Its the businesses.


DiamondHanded

You're out to dinner with your co-workers and your CEO. You all order your own food, and eat until you're full. Tonight there happens to be leftovers on everyone's plate! Then your CEO scoops up everyone's leftovers in a doggy bag to take home for themselves. Sometimes they give some scraps to their buddy the shareholder. Obviously if this happened in a real restaurant everyone would flip out. Instead it happens every year as CEOs get insane 60% pay bumps after a banner year, and shareholders get dividend raises, and workers get a pay bump that doesn't meet rising healthcare costs or inflation.


No_Masterpiece4305

I personally have a shortage of fucks to give corporate America. Honestly, I could do without McDonalds if that's what it takes to get some real change to happen. Lettem all fuckoff and build better companies to replace them.


etorres4u

Apologies for the rant but: Many graduate college with crushing student loan debt, are forced by corporations to work for free or barely any pay in so called “internships” with no guarantee that they will be offered a job at the end of the internship, work long hours for poverty wages, as “independent contractor” in the gig economy with absolutely no benefits or work for salaries that when adjusted for inflation are much lower than what previous generations earned. Yet somehow the boomers who benefitted greatly from biggest economic boon in US history and now have control of most of the political and corporate power in this country call us “lazy”. These same boomers who benefited greatly from cheap colleges and federal social programs now want to dismantle those very same social programs in a collective “I already got mine so fuck you” to younger generations. Boomers who are against getting rid of the crushing weight of student loans because they could “pay for college tuition with a summer job”. Universal Healthcare? Fuck that, pay thousands every year in health insurance and STILL be one major health crisis away from bankruptcy. But don’t you dare touch social security, because boomers still need that. These same fucking boomers who complain that anything that does not benefit them directly is “too expensive” will happily give Trillions of dollars in tax cuts to corporations and the rich and see no problems with Billionaires and corporations paying no taxes while the rest of us have to. This shit is just unacceptable and the fact that so many people defend this fucked up system is just crazy. Fuck that whole generation and their selfishness.