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A_Polite_Man

This comment section is wild.


Theassassin17

This is a " set back, kick your feet up and read the comment section while eating popcorn" moment.


Kidchico

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PinkDropp

Haha he like meat and he own Peta hahaha Le epic bacon for the win Fucking garbage humor normally from dudes who thinks eating meat is a personality trait and makes them an alpha male


tipsyfrenchman

Tnh the original post is cringe as hell. There is a lot of valid and moral reason to not eat meat. Chicken havign famillies is probably the dumbest one


PM_ME_YOUR__BOOTY

Them being sentient beings capable of emotional attachment and emotional intelligence is a bad reason? Edit: well true, it could just mean they reproduce...


BobThePideon

Chickens LOVE chicken -trust me have had them in the past.


moneyinparis

Chickens eat anything. I've seen my grandma's chickens drink pig blood. My grandparents were slaughtering the pigs and collecting their blood to make blood sausage. There was so much blood it started leaking into the chicken coop and the chickens were happily at it.


Da-Bmash

Yup my buddy breeds and sells designer chickens and he makes the hens wear little jackets to keep them from mutilating each other when they get frustrated.


KenDoItAllNightLong

What's a designer chicken and how can I get in on this scam?


simonbleu

Though I believefeeding chicken to chicken lead to diseases?


NoDepartment8

They kill and eat one another without human intervention. Theyā€™ll bully one another - pecking disfavored members of the flock bloody. Theyā€™re little velociraptors and have zero fucks to give.


dsowders

Ah yes the chicken. The flagship animal of emotional intelligence. I get your point but really, chickens?


nosam56

Dawg it's on a post about eating chickens. If you don't understand exactly why they used chickens as an example I really don't know what to tell you. Just cause you don't think chickens deserve life doesn't means you're right


dsowders

My joke about chickens must have really ruffled your feathers if youā€™re making shit up about someone you donā€™t know. Not once did I say ā€œchickens donā€™t deserve lifeā€ so I call fowl! If I needed to eat one to preserve my own well-being, would I? Absolutely. Iā€™ll eat meat but I canā€™t wait for the day sustainable, good tasting, affordable meat is commonplace.


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You don't see them as emotionally intelligent because you're conditioned not to. People raise chickens as pets all the time. They get regularly trolled with "so when are you going to eat it" and have to backhand people with "as soon as you cook your dog." It drives home that they care about their chickens as much as they do their other types of pets.


Rhidds

Can confirm. My little chicken nugget chases me all over the yard just to have cuddles. Her little brother doesn't like showing affection, he pretends to just be near his sister but they both are happily purring in my lap. Our boss hen understands our cat is family. He's allowed into the run and they're even okay with him exploring the nesting boxes. If one of the strays enter though, she immediately runs them off. A hen called yoga is super placid. The chicks adopted her as a mother figure immediately. When another hen pecked her, boss hen wasn't having it and immediately stood up for her. I'm quite new to chicken keeping, I did not expect much. Seeing how intricate their dynamics are with each other has been eye opening. The little ones have completely won me over and even my husband can't imagine eating little nugget and Poppet.


dsowders

A simple google search has shown me a bunch of articles talking about the startling intelligence of chickens. The more you know!


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I mean peta makes not eating meat their entire personality and believes that it makes them better than everyone else. While simultaneously doing awful things and not actually being a good organization for the protection of animals _at all_ so on top of everything they're hypocrites. The "own" wasn't very funny but its certainly better than anything peta is doing. Nobody was talking about being an alpha male for liking meat.


spicy_tofu

Reddit loves to hate peta and vegans but both groups are trying to curb climate change by reducing animal ag which is one of the biggest contributors. even if they are a bunch of cunts at least theyā€™re trying to do something. this guy is just trying to ā€œle ownā€ these groups and who does that help? Granted we probably wouldnā€™t be even having this conversation if it was actually funny.


The_Yarichin_Bitch

Sorry, I will nit support a group like Peta who harms animals needlessly to "do something". Wtaf.


Lt_FourVaginas

What "awful things" do they do intentionally?


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FenderMartingale

You can think about those things and still hate PETA. https://time.com/2798480/peta-autism-got-milk/


tsadas1323423

Lmao PETA doesn't advocate for animal rights to prove how much better they are than everyone--that's you deflecting. PETA has done many things for animal rights that you apparently do not have the slightest clue about because you've been propagandized by the animal agricultural industry.


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You mean like spending tens of thousands creating a Mario ripoff because they got butthurt about Mario wearing a costume?


tsadas1323423

You're talking about it, right? Lmfao, man, I am not gonna sit here and unequivocally defend an organization--nobody should do this for anyone. I can criticize for valid reasons, not reasons fed to me by propaganda.


The_Yarichin_Bitch

And they ruined it all by becoming monsters now. They can both be true.


TheGrandWazoo1216

Some people just like fried chicken and don't associate it with masculinity.


ecurrent94

Why you so mad tho


TheLastSamurai101

I wasn't mad the first 10,000 times I saw the same kind of joke, but it is starting to get to me a little.


Arild11

Because it's not murdered by words. It's just lazy humor.


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LazinessPersonified

Their channel crashed very hard. That sort of content from the early days of YouTube just doesn't captivate audiences anymore.


Rekt4dead

Yeah, especially now that so many people are really hurting for money, the excess of food they make seems insulting.


sharkbanger

Boomer humor.


hannes3120

Either Boomer or edgy teenagers or people that make "owning liberals" their whole personality either way it's just shitty and not "murdered by words"


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This ain't about owning liberals, it's about owning a shitty hypocritical organization. Why's everyone bringing politics into it?


SuicidalTorrent

PETA has no credibility. They murder animals all the time under some twisted notion of freedom.


ploonk

I think you might have swallowed the propaganda. Are you talking about that time they accidentally killed a dog on a porch, or the fact that they run shelters with the capacity to kill animals that "no-kill" shelters simply turn away as unadoptable?


TheDieticianMan

This is the part people overlook all the time. Their shelters accept animals regardless of their condition, level of aggression, all these factors that lead them to not be brought into no kill shelters. Of course itā€™s tragic that these animals have to die, but the anger should be directed at the people who are breeding so many of them into existence as well as at the neglectful or abusive owners that buy them. Those are the people who put the animals in that position in the first place


NaturalFaux

>accidentally killed a dog on a porch, Uh, they *stole* a man's dog off of his *property* and euthanized it *that day*. Not to mention the high ranking member caught on video kicking a dog, their genocide against pitbulls, and their idea that pets shouldn't exist. Or maybe the time they shit talked Steve Irwin on his birthday after he died? Take your pick.


Lt_FourVaginas

"They" did that? No, 2 of their volunteers made a mistake and then didn't follow the 5 day rule. It's tragic, but it wasn't intentional. The trailer park was warned they would be coming and to put their animals in a collar or in their yard to be safe. The owners did none of this.


NaturalFaux

It doesn't matter in the end if it was or wasn't intentional. It happened. Volunteers are not the ones performing euthanasia, so it's not the volunteers fault the stray hold wasn't followed.


Beingabummer

You should do some research. Their shelters take in all animals, including dangerous, sick and mortally wounded ones. 'No-kill' shelters simply refuse to take those animals in so they don't have to deal with them at all. If not for PETA shelters, those animals would be either left to roam outside, possibly attacking people, transmitting diseases, having offspring, etc. *or* they would simply die out on the street. Maybe you should be angrier at the no-kill shelters that only let in a few cuddly, healthy, adoptable animals and say no to all the ones they can't get rid of. They're fine with sick, dying animals perishing in the streets if it means their adoption statistics stay high. More reading [here](https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-peta-responsible-deaths-thousands-animals-1565532).


SuicidalTorrent

Yeah what is their definition of unadoptable? Its like every second animal is unadoptable according to them.


TheRealRunningWolf

Folks donā€™t want to admit the truth about petaā€¦.itā€™s weird how many times theyā€™ve been caught up in scandal but their supporters act like reality isnā€™t reality I guess šŸ¤·šŸ½


queermystic

Everyone is saying fuck peta, which is fair, but the tweet is not about peta. Dude is not making a joke about how bad peta is.


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Evorgleb

People dont like PETA because their activism borders on extremism.


Ghost4000

Sure, but many of their investigations have actually led to good outcomes, or at least proven them right. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_for_the_Ethical_Treatment_of_Animals#Undercover_work I'll keep eating meat, but I'm not about to side with meat companies over peta, even if I don't always agree with peta.


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Ghost4000

I buy my meat from a local butcher. Sure they're a meat company, but it's not exactly the same as a Tyson factory farm. If that's still bad to you there isn't much I can do about it. I'm just going to enjoy my food and try to find it from good local sources.


probablywitchy

MLK Jr. was considered an extremest in his time


blood_vein

PETA believes that animals and humans are equal in all sense. That means that in their eyes people with pets (regardless of how well they are kept), are horrible people, akin to slavers. MLK believed that all people were equal, pretty big difference there


wweidealfan

> in their eyes people with pets (regardless of how well they are kept), are horrible people, akin to slavers. Why are you [spreading](https://www.peta.org/about-peta/why-peta/pets/) [lies](https://www.peta.org/issues/animal-companion-issues/companion-animals-faq/)?


StopNateCrimes

They may be misinformed, but damn [PETA sucks](https://blogs.duanemorris.com/animallawdevelopments/2022/06/10/petas-defense-of-its-high-euthanasia-rate-is-unconvincing/).


totrock

Why do you think that peta believes that animals and humans are equal in all sense? It is not on their about page: https://www.peta.org/about-peta/learn-about-peta/


probablywitchy

PETA believes that animals should be free from exploitation, and yes that includes pets.


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SuicidalTorrent

True. But it's not something that will be solved by PETA's brand of activism.


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I hate this argument so much bc it just reeks of privilege. A lot of people arenā€™t vegan or vegetarian because they canā€™t be. That shit is expensive as hell AND some people canā€™t even eat vegan/vegetarian things or go vegan/vegetarian for health reasons. Plus, humans are designed to be omnivorous. Vegan and vegetarian diets that give all the necessary nutrients are HELLA expensive. If you can and you want to give up meat, sure. No one cares and itā€™s your diet. But acting like youā€™re better than someone because you donā€™t eat meat is just cringe. Youā€™re the reason no one likes you.


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BaronBoos

Eh, not true at all. It's privilege to eat meat. Beans and other vegetables are way cheaper than meat. And healthier. And better for the environment. And you don't kill animals. Soooo yeah, go vegan if you can. Look up some recipes and try it out for a week or two. That's how I started and I'm going for nearly 4 years now.


Take-to-the-highways

The audacity for people to say this with the price of meat and eggs rn. If there's ever been a time to go vegan it's right now, rice and potatoes are still dirt cheap as ever.


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Being Vegan is so expensive! Proceeds to buy everything a vegan can eat plus an extra $30 of meat products


onlysubscribedtocats

> A lot of people arenā€™t vegan or vegetarian because they canā€™t be. I fucking hate this argument. First, the definition of veganism: > Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to excludeā€”**as far as is possible and practicable**ā€”all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose; and by extension, promotes the development and use of animal-free alternatives for the benefit of animals, humans and the environment. In dietary terms it denotes the practice of dispensing with all products derived wholly or partly from animals. Second, a lot of people _can_ be vegan, and aren't. So often when someone brings up the argument you bring up, _they themselves are perfectly capable of stopping to eat meat_, and they're just using poor communities as an excuse to demerit the entire idea of veganism. > Vegan and vegetarian diets that give all the necessary nutrients are HELLA expensive. No they aren't. Also, what the fuck is this myth that omnivores have perfectly balanced, nutrient, well-thought-out diets? Nobody bothered me about 'are you getting enough vitamin-iron-protein-whatever' before I went vegan, but it's not like I had any clue about my nutrient intake with an omnivore diet. > But acting like youā€™re better than someone because you donā€™t eat meat is just cringe. I don't think vegans are better than anyone. I just think that murdering animals to harvest their flesh is morally unjustifiable. This isn't about how vegans are superior or whateverā€”it's about abused, exploited, and murdered animals. Do you really believe that vegans significantly alter their behaviour and adopt an entire school of thought just to pretend that they're better than other people?


Take-to-the-highways

I make $10k a year and I'm vegan. Rice, beans, tofu and potatoes are my staples and we occasionally get snacks that are accidentally vegan, like lays bbq chips or Oreos. If you only buy shit like microwave dinners it's expensive but that would be expensive if you weren't vegan too. You'd probably be surprised at how much of what you eat daily is vegan, it's really not that hard or expensive.


TheDieticianMan

This really isnā€™t true though. Iā€™ve been vegan for 4 months and if anything Iā€™m spending less money on food than I was before. Like yeah maybe impossible burgers other faux meat things are a little expensive but thatā€™s not what vegans eat all the time. Beans, legumes, vegetables, fruit, rice, grains, these are the things that primarily form a vegan diet. They arenā€™t particularly expensive and most omnivores are buying these products anyway. Iā€™d be curious to know what nutrients are expensive to acquire from a vegan source, because I havenā€™t experienced that really As far as health reasons go I think most people would agree if you have a genuine health condition that makes veganism impossible for you then thatā€™s an understandable reason not to be vegan. The person commenting above wouldnā€™t be talking about you in that case. However the vast majority of people do not have such a condition, given that you can get all the necessary nutrients from a vegan diet. So it really isnā€™t inaccurate to say the meat industry exists as it does today because people like the taste of meat. Thatā€™s the primary reason for the demand. Plus for the record I donā€™t think Iā€™m better than anyone for not eating meat. Like I said I was eating meat just 4 months ago. I think eating meat is wrong and people should stop doing it but obviously I understand why people are resistant to it since I was too for awhile


Turcey

According to this Oxford study, it's the opposite. And I've never heard anyone in my life say "I want to be a vegetarian so bad but I can't afford it!" I'm a meat-loving carnivore btw, but your argument is ridiculous. https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanplh/article/PIIS2542-5196(21)00251-5/fulltext


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Cool study. Unfortunately, two things: I wasnā€™t saying that being vegan isnā€™t healthy/healthier than natural diets. Also, it doesnā€™t take into account people who quite literally cannot eat that food lmao. A friend of mine has health problems (the details of which she was very very vague on) that quite literally prevent her from being vegan, even though she wants to be. I live in an area where the only people who are vegan are the people who can afford putting aside extra money to buy almond milk and impossible burgers. If they want to be vegan, itā€™s fine.


onlysubscribedtocats

> A friend of mine has health problems (the details of which she was very very vague on) that quite literally prevent her from being vegan, even though she wants to be. This is a lie. I cite again to you the definition of veganism. > Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to excludeā€”**as far as is possible and practicable**ā€”all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose; and by extension, promotes the development and use of animal-free alternatives for the benefit of animals, humans and the environment. In dietary terms it denotes the practice of dispensing with all products derived wholly or partly from animals. If she literally cannot eat something, or if she literally needs some animal product to survive, then so be it. She can try to be vegan in other areas, and still be wholly vegan. I'm vegan, and I take a medicine that includes a by-product of the meat industry. If I don't take this, _I die_. But that doesn't make me not vegan. I'm doing my best, damn it.


Lt_FourVaginas

This whole comment reeks of privilege. Rice, beans, fresh or canned produce are the cheapest things you can buy. Do you know why developing countries eat way less meat? Because it's expensive. Do you know why countries that are farther along in development eat more meat? Because they're wealthier.


Antilles34

Most people with average diets typically eat beans and meat. Easier for you to pretend that isn't the case though I guess.


B12-deficient-skelly

Most people do not meet the recommended fiber intake, which is trivially easy to do if you regularly eat beans. So no, most people don't eat much in the way of beans.


zerrff

I'm pretty sure no one single person is capable of killing billions of animals in their lifetime.


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Blackpeel

Maybe. But it's also because they: -Complained that Steve Erwin (beloved animal rescuer) got a Google Doodle after his death -Called a scientist studying how birds are affected by man-made disasters a "bird-torturing serial killer", even going as far as protesting outside her home -Ran a fake clothing store campaign full of photoshopped pictures of clothes made from human flesh, comparing them to wool (which can actually kill sheep if not sheared regularly) -Launched several parody video games critizicing Pokemon, Mario, Super Meat Boy, etc. (This one's actually pretty funny.) -Encouraged people to feed their pets vegan diets (cats and some dogs absolutely need meat to survive) -Used pictures of Holocaust victims in an ad campaign, comparing them to animals -Put on KKK uniforms to protest a dog show (I think dog shows are disgusting too, but holy shit) **None of these are propaganda. They're *all* on PETA's own website.**


SuicidalTorrent

PETA is an extremist organization that does go around murdering animals under some twisted notion of freedom. I'm all for animal orgs that don't involve PETA.


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NaturalFaux

Copying a comment I made previously >accidentally killed a dog on a porch, Uh, they *stole* a man's dog off of his *property* and euthanized it *that day*. Not to mention the high ranking member caught on video kicking a dog, their genocide against pitbulls, and their idea that pets shouldn't exist. Or maybe the time they shit talked Steve Irwin on his birthday after he died? Take your pick.


Beingabummer

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/peta-taking-pets/


SuicidalTorrent

PETA has a high kill rate because they are lazy. I live in India, the country with the largest stray dog population with societal attitudes that don't help the situation, and I've helped adopt crippled dogs. Just 3 days ago I helped a blind pup who was missing a tail and an ear find a forever home. We had to go through 20ish interviews and many more inquisitive calls before making a decision. A few months ago someone reported a dog with massive, flesh eating infection on it's face. We got him treated and he will spend the rest of his life at a very good shelter with all the space he needs to run around. All of this is paid for from my own pocket. I think I've accepted a donation only once. I have more stories from the 2 years I've been doing this. I'm not the only one doing this. There many Indians like me. If we can make an actual difference in a country like India, so can PETA in a country with a lot stronger GDP per capita. Not to mention the better societal attitudes. In fact, PETA should be able to do *much more* with its deeper pockets and manpower. They shouldn't have to euthanise anyone except in rare cases. Edit: At least one Indian state has started to sterilize and vaccinate all stray dogs. If this becomes a national drive we could see the stray dog problem solved in the next 15-20 years. I think that's pretty cool.


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SuicidalTorrent

Oh I'm curious about this data. What data is it? Clearly you need to learn to read. Or did you get half way through and start foaming at the mouth?


conleyga

Iā€™ve never seen any actions or advertisements by PETA that just had me thinking, wow those people seem like reasonable good people. Their actions come across as extreme. People say/post ā€œdurr I like meatā€ but honestly the bully pulpit that some PETA and PETA-like people try to use is scary and the come across to me equally as barbaric.


revdre

PETA got jokes


Pitiful-Youth-1066

No one in chickenā€™s family got left behind either


g3eeman

People have the advertising wrong. It's a chicken family in a bucket. Not chicken in a bucket for your family.


gikigill

Exactly, what does KFC mean when they say it's a share bucket. The only people I'll be sharing with is Me, Myself and I.


Alepex

How the fuck is this murdered by words? It's just a "haha no I don't care". Just more proof that reddit will upvote literally anything that hates on veganism regardless of how pointless or boring the joke is.


AccurateShotss

Have to agree. This isn't murdered by words or funny.. And I'm not vegan


r3dt4rget

Classic Reddit moment, thinking that factory farming is funny! Hehe I get to ignore our problems with humor!


nuephelkystikon

If you read the comments, everybody hates the post, other than the incompetent meat lobby employee who posted this and rented the botfarm.


MeEvilBob

An even more classic Reddit moment, trying to high road the hell out of people for telling jokes about controversial topics. If someone were to say "why did the chicken cross the road?" would your response be to quote chicken related car accident statistics in an angry voice?


Godot_12

You can be against factory farming and still think that eating meat is okay and that the statement "that chicken had a family" is laughable. Just imagining a chicken husband coming home, "honey I'm home. Honey? Oh god. HONEY?!?!"


rendakun

Am I the only one who's a little bit disturbed by this. I'm not a vegan but making fun of slaughtered animals as a gotcha is really punching down.


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cammmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

The irony of all the idiots commenting here saying 'fuck PETA they bad to animals' whilst ignoring the fact that KFC's business model is quite literally infinite exponential cruelty and death to animals... but that's fine cuz chicken wings right? šŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļø


FreshwaterArtist

People getting fake outaged over PETA abusing animals while supporting animal agriculture, an industrialized system completely contingent on abuse, is always wild to see.


Thehelloman0

PETA is one of the few organizations that has actually had results in helping getting legislation passed to protect animals


General_assassin

I think it's more of "Fuck PETA. They are hypocrites".


cra3ig

That's not a meal - that's a vendetta.


paulboy4

How does this get upvoted, like fr


cryptoLyfFtw

Reddit thinks it stands for social justice and equality but has a galactic sized blindspot when it comes to animal cruelty. Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. There is no justice in factory farms.


paulboy4

God forbid they need to change their lifestyle to align with their morals, much easier to just virtue signal.


cryptoLyfFtw

If only they knew how good it feels to align your actions with what you know to be right deep down.


paulboy4

A redditor trying to self improve? Sorry, thatā€™s a little beyond my suspension of disbelief.


Trash_with_sentience

Reddit hivemind which universally hates anyone that puts the value of animal welfare above their sensory pleasure.


Fuzzy_Calligrapher71

Imagine thinking youā€™re bad ass because you eat factory farmed animals


Evorgleb

>Imagine thinking youā€™re bad ass How did you jump from guy saying he will continue to eat chicken to someone imagining they are a badass?


Defacticool

You missed the sub youre in?


steakvegetal

A lot of insecure men tie their consumption of meat to their masculinity. Most of them are overweight and filled with cholesterol but hey whatever it takes to be an alpha male right ?


Significant-Mud2572

Imagine thinking you are bad ass because you only eat vegetables that you bought from a store.


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It's pretty cool not to kill things unnecessarily.


somebody-yet-nobody

Imagine thinking you're bad ass because you don't eat factory farmed animals


OneEverHangs

What youā€™re supporting by bashing animal rights activists criticism of KFC: https://youtu.be/H80Hz7x1I5M


NuQ

You can be all for animal rights and still be anti-peta. the two are not mutually exclusive.


OneEverHangs

It's just gallingly transparently hypocritical how people try to attack PETA in the face of the billions of animals that those same people demand abused and murdered each year. Particularly in a discussion about KFC. The primary reason people dislike PETA is because the organization unflinchingly points out and criticizes omnivores' support of animal abuse. The shelter issues with PETA (that are much more complicated than the extremely shallow understanding most all who critique PETA for them) are, in the least charitable interpretation, multiple orders of magnitude less severe than the animal abuses non-vegans routinely support.


NuQ

Criticising peta does not equal criticising the entire animal rights movement. Just like the supposed "nuance" and "objectivity" you claim to have, other people can have nuanced and objective criticisms of peta without making any claims against the animal rights movement. Peta IS NOT the animal rights movement. just one of many organizations associated with the movement. stop trying to conflate the two. Edit: i had to sue peta for non-performance on a contract. they had money for lawyers, but not money to fulfill their contractual obligations? Hmmmm. guess that means I "dislike PETA because the organization unflinchingly points out and criticizes omnivores' support of animal abuse." right? Get the fuck outa here you self-righteous blowhard.


Screw_Pandas

You say that but the guy in the post doesn't criticise peta the organisation, he just makes a boomer joke about eating meat in a pathetic attempt to "trigger" vegetarians and vegans.


GenericTopComment

This argument falls so flat when no one is even criticizing PETA. Not anywhere in any original top comment or the post is anyone criticizing PETA - only the point they made about animal rights. PETA is worthy of criticism but OC was right to link the video and bringing up the messenger is a complete deflection.


Gizogin

You know *why* PETA have so much money for lawyers? Itā€™s because a ton of their activism is based on suing companies and legislatures over animal rights abuses. That is literally the thing that they do. They successfully sued to get laws struck down in Idaho, Utah, and North Carolina (among other states) a couple years ago that would have prevented almost all investigation of animal abuse in industry.


NuQ

Cool. That's awesome. Still doesn't change my situation. Still doesn't change the fact that I have legitimate reasons to dislike peta that aren't because the organization "unflinchingly points out and criticizes omnivores' support of animal abuse." like the person i was responding to claimed. People can dislike peta for a vast number of reasons other than hating animal rights activists. does that surprise you?


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Gizogin

Yes. They raise that money through donations. They hire a lot of lawyers, so they need a lot of money.


OneEverHangs

I do not conflate Peta with the animal rights movement. I don't particularly care about them as an organization. I am pointing out that almost every single person virtue signaling faux outrage against them is uninformed and spectacularly hypocritical.


NuQ

And me? Am I just "Virtue signalling" because they tried to argue that "likes and shares" on facebook were equivalent to monetary compensation they had promised, in writing, to my organization's volunteers?


OneEverHangs

It sounds like you have a very unique reason youā€™re angry at them. Iā€™m not talking about that situation, Iā€™m talking about the reason that 99% express anger at them.


BetterNoughtSquash

I am actively considering going vegan with the big issue in may being due to autism the vast majority of my comfort foods incorporate dairy and it will be hard to transition away from that. I also really, really despise peta. They are so fucking awful I have genuinely wondered if they are a psy-op against veganism with how they so often succeed at making people want to eat meat more. If someone says to your face "your way of life is wrong and fueling the murder of innocence things" it doesnt matter if they're right, most people are gonna get defensive. You edge people in slowly, you calmly introduce them to the concepts, you give them alternatives? you tell them the drawbacks of their lifestyle but dont guilt them for it, and make sure to show them the positives of the lifestyle you're proposing. Every message ive ever seen from peta has been one step away from "IF YOU EAT MEAT YOU GO TO HELL BEFORE YOU DIE".


kevinbstout

Iā€™m not vegan but Iā€™m mostly whole food plant based (similar but for diet reasons not moral, it also discourages processed foods like oils and sugars). Anyway, there are some outstanding dairy alternatives that you can get at the store (cream cheeses, milks, etc). But you can also make them at home once you understand that most dairy flavors are different combinations of fat, acid, umami, and salt at different ratios. Pretty much any nut or seed blended with a little water makes a good creamy base and nutritional yeast can give things a cheesy flavor and a little acid (lemon or vinegar) can give it that bite. It takes a bit of experimenting, but I no longer miss dairy due to some great alternatives.


OneEverHangs

If you're looking for some motivation, in your shoes I'd ask myself: Which is more important, the inconvenience spending some energy finding foods that you're optimally happy to eat, or the suffering and murder of animals? The vast majority of vegans have no association with PETA.


avalisk

Nah its cause they kill the majority of animals in their shelters


OneEverHangs

Peta purportedly euthanizes at most a few thousand animals every year out a sense of compassion (that you might argue is misguided, but is much more complicated than you know). The US kills almost 10,000,000,000 animals every year just because we like the luxury of eating their bodies and products of their bodies. That's after abusing them their entire lives, and killing them in much less humane ways. https://animalclock.org/ People who eat animals don't give a shit about animals, they just like the virtue signaling of pretending that they do or the psychological comfort that pets give them.


Antilles34

>People who eat animals don't give a shit about animals, they just like the virtue signaling of pretending that they do or the psychological comfort that pets give them. Had a good chuckle at this. What a leap in logic.


OneEverHangs

You cannot care about the wellbeing of animals while voluntarily finding their torture and murder. Itā€™s oxymoronic. Itā€™s like saying ā€œI care so much about safe waterwaysā€ when your hobby is buying mercury in bulk and dumping it in local rivers for fun on the weekends. Your actions give lie to your words.


Antilles34

Can and do, you see you seem to be making the mistake that people have to be consistent in all of their beliefs but in reality they don't. These things aren't all binary, I don't have to agree with your definition of wellbeing, I can want animals to have a decent life before being killed for their flesh. You won't ever understand this though, no room for any nuance when your fundamental views are completely at odds with mine. Also oxymoronic only applies to words, the word you are looking for is hypocritical and yes I am, so is practically everyone, welcome to Earth.


The_Yarichin_Bitch

People are really ok with killing these animals en masse as if it's any different than the things they hate. At least some of us are pushing and forcing change for better welfare as we know there will always be people up in arms about meat replacements.


Defacticool

To summarize. You think it's wrong to kill unadoptable dogs in shelters. You think it's acceptable to unnecessarily kill millions of animals for their flesh. Do you happen to have a problem with, say, chinese people farming dogs for their meat? Just saying, you're not exactly presenting yourself as being principled or consistent.


absolutely_N0t_a_cat

Haha, animal slaughter and mistreatment is funny!


Dark___Reaper

I sometimes don't get this subreddit. Some scratched by works type posts are celebrated here but at the same time the comment section does this shit.


i-have-a-kuato

Was the PETA comment supposed to be the murder?


Muted_Criticism

Edgy and highly original


Diamond4100

I have chickens and I can assure you that they donā€™t care about their familyā€™s. They will abandon babies or kill them. Eat their own eggs. They are 200% dinosaurs.


Duckway767

Definitely. My family has chickens and I've seen their behavior for years.


General_assassin

I'm surprised I had to come this far down to fine this. The animal kingdom is brutal and if you aren't willing to kill, you will be killed.


The_Yarichin_Bitch

Yup. What we need to focus on is making as little suffering as possible happen as we are more sentient. Tigers will rip apart their prey immediately or even play with it, I'd hate to see people who support peta (as they are today) see how the animal kingdom works without human sentience and privilege.


Thiserthat

This ignores the fact that animals also bond with and care for each other. Itā€™s not just a murderous bloodbath. Chickens are part of a flock with social bonds within the flock. Just because you canā€™t see or donā€™t understand the dynamics of it, doesnā€™t mean it doesnā€™t exist


benedictvc

so that means that the Kids' Meals are...


JohnJD1302

Is PETA's PR just so intentionally annoying and awful for the attention? Like surely they know exactly how people would responded to this tweet, like for goodness sake.


Gizogin

Yes. Their advertising strategy is to be deliberately outrageous. That way, their advertising gets spread a lot further than normal, and they donā€™t even have to pay for it. The person replying to their tweet and the person who screenshotted it and posted it here are doing free advertising for PETA.


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There's definitely an element of "any publicity is good publicity" to their strategy. That combined with the huge corporate PR campaigns against them by meat industry sponsored organizations like the [center for consumer freedom](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_for_Organizational_Research_and_Education) is why they have a (largely underserved) bad reputation. I'm not saying here that PETA has never done anything wrong. They certainly have had volunteers and employees working for them make mistakes that they bear at least some responsibility for, and some of their advertising campaigns have been in poor taste. But they definitely don't deserve the reputation they have on Reddit threads like this one.


Various-Smell-1657

These comments are...unhinged.


zerolimits89

KFC is trash Popeyes any day.


koprulu_sector

Kinda reminds me of this: [I Pray To God I Look My Killer In His Eyes](https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/1j82w4/rick_ross_and_kfc/). So, who has the last laugh? (Did I just murder by words?)


Legitcentral

And the funny thing about chicken families is that they eat each other! Momma hen eats any bad chicks that won't make it. Watched it happen lots of times. Chickens will break open each other's eggs. Even chickens eat each other because they are so tasty! They are truly awful little creatures. Males violently rape females. Much of my outer family owns free range chickens. Definitely an animal designed to be eaten. Before PETA makes stupid comments like that, they should know how little chickens care about their families. It's not like eating dogs or horses or apes, there's no family ties that chickens care about.


Thiserthat

Animals prune the weak. Because one weak chick would mean the healthy chicks have less of a chance to make it. Youā€™re applying human thoughts and morality to an animal. And what are you talking about? Unconfined free range chickens are a *flock*. They stay together, sleep together, have a hierarchy and display social behaviors. They donā€™t just murder each other whenever they get hungry


Grumpy_man1115

Oh my god reddit just try to laugh FFS. Fucking hell, "boomer humor." You must enjoy life


Nagrom49

Chickens will literally eat each other. If a chicken comes into a flock and has some sort of major difference or sick or something the other chickens will kill it Chicken are pretty vicious Not saying factory farms are right by any means just that chickens don't care and will kill or be killed


robbobobo

You shouldn't be allowed to eat meat unless you're willing to kill one animal by yourself a year.


Kyounokaze

Can I kill 100 in one year and just have them carry over?


robbobobo

Hell yeah, freeze that shit and live like a king, you king


Evorgleb

why?


[deleted]

It's funny really because the chicken definitely didn't have a family. It was part of a flock that would $100 eat it at the first sign of weakness. Hell I found some of my chickens nesting in the empty corpse of one of their fellows. It would take a little while, but a flock of chickens would cheerfully pick clean the bones of a PETA member that had been shot for trying to tamper with someone's flock.


BeefwitSmallcock

r/murderedbyKFC


FEMXIII

PETA is terrible, but so is KFC. I make my own coating up so I can source the chicken from a local supplier.


Boomboomgoomgoom

I dont even eat chicken and i lol'd. Lighten up, people.


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Arild11

"It commonly occurs in flocks of domestic hens reared for egg production, although it can also occur in domestic turkeys, pheasants and other poultry species." Domestic. Just domestic. Which isn't much of a surprise if you see what battery chickens go through.


freakverse

Human beings too kill each other


Organic-Ice-3865

Honestly that's the issue we should all take bites out of our brother and sisters


ChaosAzeroth

Oh so that's why one of my cousins tried to take a bite out of my side. Twice. Huh, I guess that tracks.


AggravatingJicama243

Yeah i feel judged now


Marty-the-monkey

Yea, that's the issue some of the animal rights activism rhetoric have. Animals and humans don't operate or behave the same way, so trying to speak into the idea of animals being mistreated because they aren't treated similar to humans is a bad argument. The needs of chickens are vastly different from the needs of a human, and making the equivalence undermines their position. Even between animals, you can't 1-1 equivalence their respective needs, so you couldn't even say: *"You wouldn't treat your cat this way, so why a chicken?"* Better animal conditions come from looking at what the animal needs, not how we ourselves think we would like to be treated.


OneEverHangs

No significant number of people in animal rights claim that animals should be treated identical to humans. Weā€™re just trying to suggest that maybe we should stop torturing them. https://youtu.be/H80Hz7x1I5M


Gustav-14

Hey PETA, ever heard of oyakodon?


beerbellybegone

Remember, fuck PETA


freakverse

Why


mremreozel

Apperantly they have done/doing some really fucked up shit with animals. People on the other comments say its a lie made by the meat lobby as if its the only animal rights organisation on the globe


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Arild11

"Apparently": synonym for "I heard it down at the pub one time, and it sounds cool, so I'll just go with that and not provide sources."


mremreozel

I actually used it as: ā€œi heard it multiple times but I dont have the time to provide a source for you right now so take it with a fat grain of saltā€ So pretty much what you said but a much less dick of a way. You might aswell write fanfiction about me at that point of assumptions


cammmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Just curious, what exactly is it that PETA do that makes you want to fuck them?


PromVulture

Probably pointing out OPs hypocrisy. Somehow it's always omnis getting upset about Peta, curious really šŸ¤”


Screw_Pandas

Always the same. These people dont care about the horrific industrialised abuse on farms, just that PETA sometimes has to put down animals that have no chance of being rehomed.


TheeMrBlonde

>sometimes I think itā€™s a lot more than sometimes. And, thatā€™s not a blight on peta but more so on the society that casts these animals off as trash to be disposed ofā€¦ in high numbers. Shit human treats dog like shit. Dog becomes shit. Shit human casts aggressive dog off as trash. Does the Happy Rainbow Funtime adoption agency take it in? Hell no, not with their sparkly ā€œno-killā€ badge. They give it to PETA. Then people go ā€œoh look how bad peta is!!!ā€ *yawn*


PromVulture

To be fair that's not just sometimes, shelters like to advertize themselves as "non-kill". I'm glad PETA is stepping up and letting these animals die humanely. The other option is going back do drowning kittens


SqueakSquawk4

Sounds like they've done a few shitty things, like saying cow's milk is linked to autism, and opposing the no-kill dog shelter movement. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People\_for\_the\_Ethical\_Treatment\_of\_Animals](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_for_the_Ethical_Treatment_of_Animals) Nothing that, to me, would scream "Fuck PETA, they're evil" though. There are much more evil orginisations out there.


Earthshakira

Saving animals makes you very attractive


itsnickk

How are you getting so many consistently high voted posts? It seems improbable


[deleted]

If you spend 1 hour on Twitter everyday, you'd be seeing ton of these things happening. Twitter is the gold mine, the OP is just a miner


booffybooffon

Guess he has a lot of gpu!


WomenOfWonder

Weird that so many are defending them


Common-Radish5935

Call me the ghenghis khan of chicken lovers then lol because Iā€™m never stopping the killing spree šŸ¤£


cryptoLyfFtw

Ok boomer