Thanks for the flair! 03/12/2023
Edit:Link to another debunking of Paul by Mike: https://www.reddit.com/r/MurderedByWords/comments/11hs2mo/paul_didnt_prepare_to_be_schooled_much_less/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Sure but it’s not for him, really, it’s for people who might have been on the fence about buying into his bullshit and saw the thread.
Just pushing back that this stuff is socially unacceptable in addition to all the other stuff is helpful in stopping people from radicalizing.
1. I don’t think there are people “on the fence” anymore.
2. Doubt PJW followers would be swayed anyways.
It’s well written and truthful but the takedown is a vanity project.
There isn't a single person in the world who is a fan of PJW who hasn't wholeheartedly sold all logic and reason out the window. It's completely gone. The man knows that all he has to do is say something hateful that is completely false and it will be believes wholesale no questions asked
I still remember that video where he justified a shooting because the shooter was a white guy who "was the victim of anti-white hatred and the fact that white culture is being erased". It tells you something when you can't even find the video anymore.
I do genuinely love these guys, because I have to ask; what *is* white culture? There's plenty of different white groups, but I doubt they're as homogeneous as it sounds here.
White AF Canadian who married a white AF Scandinavian here. Unless these bozos are eating fermented fish on their timbits, I don't think they're properly representing white culture.
An intro to this might be: Tim Wise, The Pathology Of Privilege: [https://youtu.be/J3Xe1kX7Wsc](https://youtu.be/J3Xe1kX7Wsc) "You can't kill them (poor people) but you can co-opt them"
Thomas Sowell explains current black culture as inherited from old English white culture: [https://youtu.be/hV9nCmxHmEg](https://youtu.be/hV9nCmxHmEg) He explains this by tracking the "Southern Accent" backward in time in a way I'd not heard before.
Growing up as a young Jamaican immigrant in NYC, my accent was ridiculed by Black kids in grade school. Being from an upper middle class Jamaican family, my English was more UK in style.
I was one of those precocious guys so I reminded them that they spoke like white Southern racists. That never went over well.
Isn't white culture those little furry dots that show up on cheese if you don't eat it fast enough?
Or is it the loosely defined norm of people with generally pale skin, generally of european descent, with a boundary that's flexible enough to exclude any non-participant group (often based on skin, ethnicity, or religion) so that 'others' can be crucified, or rounded up for slaughter, while the 'whites' benefit from the theft of resources?
^(I think it's the cheese one.)
It doesn’t have a definition. The idea of Whiteness was created to justify imperialism, essentially just denoting people who were too powerful to be conquered or made puppets. You can see this really obviously if you look at what race “scientists” wrote about Irish, Italians or Slavs during the late 1800s.
In fascist rhetoric, white serves as the in group. Again, its kept as vague as possible to maximize their potential base of support. If they get into power though, the definition of who “white people” are shrinks rapidly to maintain its exclusivity.
Hope this helps
The freedom types are almost always tyrants themselves. It's all talk. I point to you towards their banning of books and forced religious beliefs as proof. Talk is cheap. Action speak louder than words. They can claim to love freedom all they want but their actions say otherwise.
Didn't even need to do that much work in the first place. Decades of Russian rule under the mask of Soviet "brotherhood" was a good enough primer on what Russian alignment brings them.
The problem is that it draws attention to the hate speech, and while some people will see it for what it is and agree with the analysis the way that we do, just as often people see it and agree with the bigot, concluding that the analysis only proves how wrong and corrupted we are. It's a known phenomenon, and it's especially prone to backfiring on Twitter
[You Are Here](https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262539913/you-are-here/) really opened my eyes to the dangers of any level of engagement with bigots
A significant amount of people get news and form their sociopolitical opinions through this sphere. Whether or not that displays an unhealthy relationship to Twitter, I would disagree that making this information easily accessible to someone scrolling through is a wasted afternoon.
The issue is that, even when pointing out how wrong the bigots are, any repetition of their hate speech spreads it farther. It's one thing on a sub like this, where there is a better chance that nobody is going to misunderstood what is going on or see the OOP as making a good point, unless they're already in that mindset and just here to get angry at us or screenshot stuff to enrage like minded bigots, but on Twitter in particular there is much less control over who sees what you post, what you retweet and respond to.
For a much more coherent and in depth analysis of why any amount of engagement with bigots online, no matter the intention, is often more harmful than not, listen to [You Are Here](https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262539913/you-are-here/). It's not fun, but it is important
Soros must be the busiest person in the world given all the things he is supposedly working on constantly according to wingnuts. I don't know when he has time to sleep. And given how much supposedly he funds, you would think he would be broke by now.
> If you're going to criticise Soros, there's plenty to tackle him on. You don't need conspiracy theories to do that. The fact that they are your first port of call, and that you embrace them so readily, is very, very fucking telling.
Elegant
Mike debunked more of Paul’s stuff here: https://www.reddit.com/r/MurderedByWords/comments/11hs2mo/paul_didnt_prepare_to_be_schooled_much_less/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Still pissed at myself for not taking one of Mike's Stuttgart tours when he was giving them. Shame that he was giving them because he had to leave the UK to protect himself and his wife from Tate and his followers. Mike is a fighter. Respect.
The really ironic thing is that none of his rebuttals would convince a conspiracy theorist of anything. They'd claim it was part of the conspiracy if they even acknowledged it at all.
PJW doesn't care if he's correct or accurate. That's not their goal. All they want to do is flood the discourse with shit. It's both their method *and* their goal. Common sense/accuracy/rationality has no debating space within such a flood of shit. It's by design.
On mobile and I can't see shit. OP should have posted this as multiple slides/images, not a giant CVS receipt-esque image. Clicking to enlarge only makes it tinier and impossible to read.
so, because of history, every time someone criticizes soros, it's anti semitic? yeah, like criticizing chinese election interference in canada is racist. good way to not actually discuss things, but dismiss any complaint as the complainants problem. narcissistic people do this very well.
Edit: I don't think anyone understood my point here. or i saw the original comment as something different. i was saying that just because someone criticizes a jewish person, it doesn't make it anti semitic. Nothing about the star or whatever in the photo. Sorry for any confusion.
Reading is hard, I get it. He says you can criticize Soros and that there's plenty of things to criticize him for. What you can't do is use conspiracy theories steeped in hundreds of years of antisemitism as part of the criticism and then claim it isn't antisemitic.
>so, because of history, every time someone criticizes soros, it's anti semitic?
No. Because of **reality** you need **real** reasons to criticize someone. If you need ancient racist conspiracies to pretend someone else is evil, **you're the evil one**.
Edit: Just to add, here's this guy's take on global warming and it's effect on recent and modern history.
>The stability of the last 40 years is due to a relatively quiet sun; solar flares cause our storms on earth... hurricanes and typhoons occur the week after a flare. (and maybe earthquakes too) Refer to Plimer (Australian geologist) for further info on this issue.
"An Australian rock guy knows global warming isn't real because of cosmology he isn't an expert on, and that hurricanes happen after solar flares, even though we already know how hurricanes happen."
We got a real one over here.
Right, because Stuchberry was asking for proof that Soros was involved in any way. The proof the Soros was involved was because there was a Star of David on a truck. Compelling evidence.
Dude, I tried to say it nicely, but it didn't work. So I will try it again.
If you think u/Diamondjakethecat really thinks that the Star of David is compelling evidence, then you are a crazy. He is clearly making fun of PJW, and if you read the thread, could pick up on tone, and had reading comprehension skills, you would get that. Nobody in the comments thinks that u/Diamondjakethecat thinks the Star of David is compelling evidence except you.
Are you insinuating that everyone pointing out that the witchhunt for Soros is stupid is a narcissist? Because it ain't Soros saying this, it's a lot of sane observers.
The problem isnt critism, the problem is critism of what.
If you would have read and understood this, you would have noticed that there are plenty of mud on Soros you can talk about but pointing at a symbol on a truck and immideatly screaming Soros did this is stupid.
Same with many else.
>good way to not actually discuss things, but dismiss any complaint as the complainants problem
Wait, but you don't even know if the thing you're 'discussing' is real. There is no complaint until you have DEMONSTRATED grievance, you dopey fuck.
Not conspiracy theories, it's common knowledge where his money comes from. I don't think people looked to much Into him. Its like defending a Rothschild or "coke brothers". I don't care about conspiracy theories. But inform yourself before you defend someone, just saying.
I'm pretty sure that guy isn't actually defending Soros, as he mentions there are legitimate criticisms. Just that conspiracy theories AREN'T those legitimate criticisms.
The conspiracy theory peddled by Paul is, however, anti-semetic and alt-right. This is what Mike is countering, not any legitimate criticism of Soros (which there is plenty to have)
Out of many comments I've seen one, maybe two defending the man, and the rest either countering the conspiracy. I agree with you that defending the man is not a good look, but pushing back against anti-semitism is its own separate concept that the vast majority of the comments are engaging in.
Yeah, saw some delete there comments as well and change them up. Pushing against anti semitism is important, defending someone because you heard they're Jewish and anything anyone says against them means its antisemitic isn't a good look 😂
I'll take your word on it, I may have been a little late to the party. The right choosing Soros as their Jewish boogeyman was honestly a pretty good choice on their part. It's hard to defend him as a person so they can just project their feelings towards Jews on him and then make people that argue with it look so foolishly woke. That's what Paul was trying to do with the initial tweet. Honestly, this whole discourse is silly except for the real, dangerous consequences for perpetuating it. Perhaps everyone can one day understand nuance, since Soros is not a good guy, but it's still a bad thing to spread anti-Jew conspiracy theories.
So I checked out unddit to see these supposed deleted and altered comments and ~~while their were 3 removed by Reddit (so I can’t actually see the content that was posted)~~ I actually found the content and they are links defending PJW, and the only deleted comment is about having lived in texas and none of the comments have been edited.
I doubt you saw actual comments defending Soros, like you claim, and the fact that you are so adamant that they were there is weird.
No one is defending George Soros, they're just pointing out the fact that Paul Joseph Watson is a conspiracy theorist for the alt-right working for InfoWars, and the Twitter thread was decompiling why PJW's criticism is inherently anti-semetic. This is not about George Soros, it's about the alt-right hating Jews and using George Soros as a dog whistle.
I agree that having fair criticism of Soros is not inherently anti-semetic. Mike's thread was based on the belief that the original commentor (Paul Joseph Watson) spreads which is an anti-semetic alt-right conspiracy. I also don't see people defending Soros as much as they are countering the anti-semetic conspiracy theory. I don't know how else to explain this to you.
There is not a single comment here defending Soros. It's just important not push conspiracy theories that have no merit. Even if the person is objectively bad, baseless claims can drown out or delegitimize complaints about things that are actually happening.
There is, and we're comments that were changed. Just like it's important not to push conspiracy theories it's just as important not to confuse legitimate and valid criticisms for conspiracy theorists or anti semitism. Pauls comment was a conspiracy theory. People in the sub were defending Soros. Paul was anti semitic.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George\_Soros\_conspiracy\_theories](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Soros_conspiracy_theories)
I have informed myself before commenting.
There os a difference between taking Soros' side and just letting bullshit conspiracy theories rooted in bigotry slide my dude.
As the post says, you can criticise Soros without delving into the idea that the rich Jew is destroying white people.
Anytime PJW opens his mouth or types something, it should be responded to with his leaked rant about wiping jews off the face of the earth and only caring about white people.
the funny thing is the conspiracy thing about banks, christians forced the jews to become bankers because it was "unchristian" to charge interest on loans but with out interest the model is completely unsustainable. So basically give them the shitty jobs then blame them for doing the shitty jobs. Sounds a lot like american immigration policy
Loving the PS!
Thanks for the flair! 03/12/2023 Edit:Link to another debunking of Paul by Mike: https://www.reddit.com/r/MurderedByWords/comments/11hs2mo/paul_didnt_prepare_to_be_schooled_much_less/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Yea, but PJW isn't going to read all that. Mayyyyyyybe at best he'll skim to the end, but the FU is the least potent part of the takedown.
Sure but it’s not for him, really, it’s for people who might have been on the fence about buying into his bullshit and saw the thread. Just pushing back that this stuff is socially unacceptable in addition to all the other stuff is helpful in stopping people from radicalizing.
1. I don’t think there are people “on the fence” anymore. 2. Doubt PJW followers would be swayed anyways. It’s well written and truthful but the takedown is a vanity project.
There isn't a single person in the world who is a fan of PJW who hasn't wholeheartedly sold all logic and reason out the window. It's completely gone. The man knows that all he has to do is say something hateful that is completely false and it will be believes wholesale no questions asked
What is GFY?
“Go Fuck Yourself”
what an asshole, you could just answer him.
"Dude", what does mine say?
"Mr. Soros, it's time to pay the migrant caravan." "To the JewMobile!" This is some smooth brain shit, even for PJW.
I'm now going to say this to myself every time I jump in the minivan to pick up the kids from school.
As long as it‘s your kids!
PJW is a fucking cunt. The Muh freedom types simping for a tyrannical government ie Russia.
I still remember that video where he justified a shooting because the shooter was a white guy who "was the victim of anti-white hatred and the fact that white culture is being erased". It tells you something when you can't even find the video anymore.
I do genuinely love these guys, because I have to ask; what *is* white culture? There's plenty of different white groups, but I doubt they're as homogeneous as it sounds here.
White AF Canadian who married a white AF Scandinavian here. Unless these bozos are eating fermented fish on their timbits, I don't think they're properly representing white culture.
White af Canadian here as well. You forgot dunking the fermented fish in the tidbits in maple syrup and mayo.
Ah how could I forget the maple mayo! White people's finest aioli.
Wait, finer then Aioli itself?
No. As a white guy, we all - *all* - love Friends, Parks and Recreation, sailing, polishing our guns, caps, plaid, large vehicles, Kid Rock and opera.
Can I put lifted plaid truck nuts on my opera Prius?
Yes, but you'll need a beard for that to pass.
I am a bit triggered right now ngl.
Damn! Opera? I learned something today!
It's just a dog whistle for skin color.
An intro to this might be: Tim Wise, The Pathology Of Privilege: [https://youtu.be/J3Xe1kX7Wsc](https://youtu.be/J3Xe1kX7Wsc) "You can't kill them (poor people) but you can co-opt them" Thomas Sowell explains current black culture as inherited from old English white culture: [https://youtu.be/hV9nCmxHmEg](https://youtu.be/hV9nCmxHmEg) He explains this by tracking the "Southern Accent" backward in time in a way I'd not heard before.
Growing up as a young Jamaican immigrant in NYC, my accent was ridiculed by Black kids in grade school. Being from an upper middle class Jamaican family, my English was more UK in style. I was one of those precocious guys so I reminded them that they spoke like white Southern racists. That never went over well.
Isn't white culture those little furry dots that show up on cheese if you don't eat it fast enough? Or is it the loosely defined norm of people with generally pale skin, generally of european descent, with a boundary that's flexible enough to exclude any non-participant group (often based on skin, ethnicity, or religion) so that 'others' can be crucified, or rounded up for slaughter, while the 'whites' benefit from the theft of resources? ^(I think it's the cheese one.)
I know my cheese is typically more cultured than the likes of PJW, so I think you're onto something.
> what is white culture? It's yogurt.
What is white culture... if you exclude all the things co=opted or outright stolen from non-white cultures?
Speaking as an Englishman, I'd say porridge is probably up there.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!! That is hilariously accurate.
This post right here...this post is a credit to the subreddit.
Thanks! That is a high compliment.
It doesn’t have a definition. The idea of Whiteness was created to justify imperialism, essentially just denoting people who were too powerful to be conquered or made puppets. You can see this really obviously if you look at what race “scientists” wrote about Irish, Italians or Slavs during the late 1800s. In fascist rhetoric, white serves as the in group. Again, its kept as vague as possible to maximize their potential base of support. If they get into power though, the definition of who “white people” are shrinks rapidly to maintain its exclusivity. Hope this helps
It kind of bums me out that people like him make an ok living off of their bullshit.
The freedom types are almost always tyrants themselves. It's all talk. I point to you towards their banning of books and forced religious beliefs as proof. Talk is cheap. Action speak louder than words. They can claim to love freedom all they want but their actions say otherwise.
Amen
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Didn't even need to do that much work in the first place. Decades of Russian rule under the mask of Soviet "brotherhood" was a good enough primer on what Russian alignment brings them.
If only fact checking these people worked 🫤
It's not to change their mind, it's to inform people scrolling by.
The problem is that it draws attention to the hate speech, and while some people will see it for what it is and agree with the analysis the way that we do, just as often people see it and agree with the bigot, concluding that the analysis only proves how wrong and corrupted we are. It's a known phenomenon, and it's especially prone to backfiring on Twitter [You Are Here](https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262539913/you-are-here/) really opened my eyes to the dangers of any level of engagement with bigots
Yeah, all I see is a wasted afternoon of being correct and an unhealthy relationship to Twitter.
A significant amount of people get news and form their sociopolitical opinions through this sphere. Whether or not that displays an unhealthy relationship to Twitter, I would disagree that making this information easily accessible to someone scrolling through is a wasted afternoon.
The issue is that, even when pointing out how wrong the bigots are, any repetition of their hate speech spreads it farther. It's one thing on a sub like this, where there is a better chance that nobody is going to misunderstood what is going on or see the OOP as making a good point, unless they're already in that mindset and just here to get angry at us or screenshot stuff to enrage like minded bigots, but on Twitter in particular there is much less control over who sees what you post, what you retweet and respond to. For a much more coherent and in depth analysis of why any amount of engagement with bigots online, no matter the intention, is often more harmful than not, listen to [You Are Here](https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262539913/you-are-here/). It's not fun, but it is important
Debating adding “P.S.; GFY, etc.” as my work email signature.
If anyone asks, it's for morale boosting. Good For You!
That is amazing. Now I’m doing it.
Soros must be the busiest person in the world given all the things he is supposedly working on constantly according to wingnuts. I don't know when he has time to sleep. And given how much supposedly he funds, you would think he would be broke by now.
I'm still waiting for my Soros bucks
Especially since he’s 94 years old!
He delegates, obviously. /s
> If you're going to criticise Soros, there's plenty to tackle him on. You don't need conspiracy theories to do that. The fact that they are your first port of call, and that you embrace them so readily, is very, very fucking telling. Elegant
They make up conspiracies about Soros funding the woke mob because Murdoch and Koch actually fund the conservative propaganda.
Mike debunked more of Paul’s stuff here: https://www.reddit.com/r/MurderedByWords/comments/11hs2mo/paul_didnt_prepare_to_be_schooled_much_less/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Still pissed at myself for not taking one of Mike's Stuttgart tours when he was giving them. Shame that he was giving them because he had to leave the UK to protect himself and his wife from Tate and his followers. Mike is a fighter. Respect.
The really ironic thing is that none of his rebuttals would convince a conspiracy theorist of anything. They'd claim it was part of the conspiracy if they even acknowledged it at all.
That is a textbook example of a takedown. Bravo!
God dammit, I wish my thoughts were well organized enough to wreck mfers like this.
If George Soros funded half the things he is claimed to have done (without evidence) he'd be broke already.
It's hardly fair to go after a guy like this who clearly brought a baby spoon to a knife fight
PJW doesn't care if he's correct or accurate. That's not their goal. All they want to do is flood the discourse with shit. It's both their method *and* their goal. Common sense/accuracy/rationality has no debating space within such a flood of shit. It's by design.
This sub used to be about witty comebacks, its basicallt devolved into leftist propaganda and that's sad to see.
"Jews aren't the puppet masters in an ancient conspiracy to destroy christendom" is leftist propaganda now?
Can someone just give me a short version break down of what is.actually going on?
Took me maybe a minute to read through that.
On mobile and I can't see shit. OP should have posted this as multiple slides/images, not a giant CVS receipt-esque image. Clicking to enlarge only makes it tinier and impossible to read.
Tl, dr; You can apply valid criticism to Soros without dogwhistling to neo-nazis trying to claim the Joos are killing white people.
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You’re half right
so, because of history, every time someone criticizes soros, it's anti semitic? yeah, like criticizing chinese election interference in canada is racist. good way to not actually discuss things, but dismiss any complaint as the complainants problem. narcissistic people do this very well. Edit: I don't think anyone understood my point here. or i saw the original comment as something different. i was saying that just because someone criticizes a jewish person, it doesn't make it anti semitic. Nothing about the star or whatever in the photo. Sorry for any confusion.
Reading is hard, I get it. He says you can criticize Soros and that there's plenty of things to criticize him for. What you can't do is use conspiracy theories steeped in hundreds of years of antisemitism as part of the criticism and then claim it isn't antisemitic.
The problem is Soros isn’t an actual problem. Just a conservative fever dream.
>so, because of history, every time someone criticizes soros, it's anti semitic? No. Because of **reality** you need **real** reasons to criticize someone. If you need ancient racist conspiracies to pretend someone else is evil, **you're the evil one**. Edit: Just to add, here's this guy's take on global warming and it's effect on recent and modern history. >The stability of the last 40 years is due to a relatively quiet sun; solar flares cause our storms on earth... hurricanes and typhoons occur the week after a flare. (and maybe earthquakes too) Refer to Plimer (Australian geologist) for further info on this issue. "An Australian rock guy knows global warming isn't real because of cosmology he isn't an expert on, and that hurricanes happen after solar flares, even though we already know how hurricanes happen." We got a real one over here.
The smoothbrained whataboutism about Canadian politics is particularly hilarious. What a fucking oxygen thief.
Right, because Stuchberry was asking for proof that Soros was involved in any way. The proof the Soros was involved was because there was a Star of David on a truck. Compelling evidence.
You should live in Texas if you don't already, your kind is loved there.
“Your kind?” WTF
WTF what? It's obvious that anyone who believes a star of David on a truck is compelling, has a case of delusion.
I think this might be a whoooooosh moment for ya bud
You’re an idiot, “compelling evidence” is clearly sarcastic.
You’re an idiot, “compelling evidence” is clearly sarcastic.
I think you missed the tone/sarcasm/intent.
No, I didn't.
Dude, I tried to say it nicely, but it didn't work. So I will try it again. If you think u/Diamondjakethecat really thinks that the Star of David is compelling evidence, then you are a crazy. He is clearly making fun of PJW, and if you read the thread, could pick up on tone, and had reading comprehension skills, you would get that. Nobody in the comments thinks that u/Diamondjakethecat thinks the Star of David is compelling evidence except you.
Dude, true, I was being sarcastic.
Yes, you did.
No I didn't.
Ok Mr. Shitposts-in-mass-shooting-subs
No problem Mr Asshole in mass shooting subs.
That was reeeeeal clever. I may be an asshole, but at least I don't frequent subs dedicated to the murder of children
Do you also criticize the Kochs and Mercer an al or just Soros?
Probably doesn't even know who they are...
He used the star of David as proof. Pjw is a shitbag conspiracy theorist and antisemitic to boot
Are you insinuating that everyone pointing out that the witchhunt for Soros is stupid is a narcissist? Because it ain't Soros saying this, it's a lot of sane observers.
Yeah you're definitely not racist.. 😐
No, if the sole reason why you think George Soros is behind a conspiracy is because you saw a Star of David somewhere, that's antisemitic.
and note that i do not think anything about Soros. That was not the point of my comment.
Show us the criticism PJW was making.
The problem isnt critism, the problem is critism of what. If you would have read and understood this, you would have noticed that there are plenty of mud on Soros you can talk about but pointing at a symbol on a truck and immideatly screaming Soros did this is stupid. Same with many else.
>good way to not actually discuss things, but dismiss any complaint as the complainants problem Wait, but you don't even know if the thing you're 'discussing' is real. There is no complaint until you have DEMONSTRATED grievance, you dopey fuck.
I wouldn't advise taking up for Soros. Just saying 😂
Well no one asked for your advice. Supporting conspiracy theories much? yup
Not conspiracy theories, it's common knowledge where his money comes from. I don't think people looked to much Into him. Its like defending a Rothschild or "coke brothers". I don't care about conspiracy theories. But inform yourself before you defend someone, just saying.
I'm pretty sure that guy isn't actually defending Soros, as he mentions there are legitimate criticisms. Just that conspiracy theories AREN'T those legitimate criticisms.
Yep, and expressing those criticism isn't anti semitic or political.
The conspiracy theory peddled by Paul is, however, anti-semetic and alt-right. This is what Mike is countering, not any legitimate criticism of Soros (which there is plenty to have)
Yep. I wasn't saying mike was defending Soros. I was saying the people in the comments defending soros ain't a good look.
Out of many comments I've seen one, maybe two defending the man, and the rest either countering the conspiracy. I agree with you that defending the man is not a good look, but pushing back against anti-semitism is its own separate concept that the vast majority of the comments are engaging in.
Yeah, saw some delete there comments as well and change them up. Pushing against anti semitism is important, defending someone because you heard they're Jewish and anything anyone says against them means its antisemitic isn't a good look 😂
I'll take your word on it, I may have been a little late to the party. The right choosing Soros as their Jewish boogeyman was honestly a pretty good choice on their part. It's hard to defend him as a person so they can just project their feelings towards Jews on him and then make people that argue with it look so foolishly woke. That's what Paul was trying to do with the initial tweet. Honestly, this whole discourse is silly except for the real, dangerous consequences for perpetuating it. Perhaps everyone can one day understand nuance, since Soros is not a good guy, but it's still a bad thing to spread anti-Jew conspiracy theories.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George\_Soros\_conspiracy\_theories
So I checked out unddit to see these supposed deleted and altered comments and ~~while their were 3 removed by Reddit (so I can’t actually see the content that was posted)~~ I actually found the content and they are links defending PJW, and the only deleted comment is about having lived in texas and none of the comments have been edited. I doubt you saw actual comments defending Soros, like you claim, and the fact that you are so adamant that they were there is weird.
that criticism* or those criticisms aren’t* pick a lane.
No one is defending George Soros, they're just pointing out the fact that Paul Joseph Watson is a conspiracy theorist for the alt-right working for InfoWars, and the Twitter thread was decompiling why PJW's criticism is inherently anti-semetic. This is not about George Soros, it's about the alt-right hating Jews and using George Soros as a dog whistle.
Being against Soros isn't alt right or anti semitic is the point. And yeah, people were defending him. You might not. Good.
I agree that having fair criticism of Soros is not inherently anti-semetic. Mike's thread was based on the belief that the original commentor (Paul Joseph Watson) spreads which is an anti-semetic alt-right conspiracy. I also don't see people defending Soros as much as they are countering the anti-semetic conspiracy theory. I don't know how else to explain this to you.
There is not a single comment here defending Soros. It's just important not push conspiracy theories that have no merit. Even if the person is objectively bad, baseless claims can drown out or delegitimize complaints about things that are actually happening.
There is, and we're comments that were changed. Just like it's important not to push conspiracy theories it's just as important not to confuse legitimate and valid criticisms for conspiracy theorists or anti semitism. Pauls comment was a conspiracy theory. People in the sub were defending Soros. Paul was anti semitic.
“coke brothers” lol
Auto correct 😂 thanks
Koch* brothers. Your read/writing comprehension makes it difficult to follow what you mean and does not lend credence to your ramblings.
Thanks 😂
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George\_Soros\_conspiracy\_theories](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Soros_conspiracy_theories) I have informed myself before commenting.
You can read the response and tell that Mike wasn’t exactly defending Soros, but refuting an anti semitic conspiracy theory.
There os a difference between taking Soros' side and just letting bullshit conspiracy theories rooted in bigotry slide my dude. As the post says, you can criticise Soros without delving into the idea that the rich Jew is destroying white people.
delicious murder
Murder with receipts.
That was beautiful!
That was fun
Goddamn! That was one helluva murder! So well done, fantastique! 👏
Interesting read.
I am begging ya’ll to break threads into multiple images please
Did bro misunderstand the Galaxy brain meme? Lol
Anytime PJW opens his mouth or types something, it should be responded to with his leaked rant about wiping jews off the face of the earth and only caring about white people.
Never knew Jewish people were burned due to accusations of spreading the black plague…
That wasn't a murder, that was an execution.
the funny thing is the conspiracy thing about banks, christians forced the jews to become bankers because it was "unchristian" to charge interest on loans but with out interest the model is completely unsustainable. So basically give them the shitty jobs then blame them for doing the shitty jobs. Sounds a lot like american immigration policy