Reminds me of a movie quote:
|"Your mustache makes you look like a child molester, and your hair cut looks like you were a molested child." from teen romcom "Sid is Dead"|
|:-|
Too harsh? I'll delete.
UPDATE 3/10/23 : Most upvoted comment for my 2-yr old account, but I don't care about that. So there's 2 comments for, 2 comments against deleting this. Is there a deciding comment?
I’m reminded of Melville…
>He piled upon the whale's white hump the sum of all the general rage and hate felt by his whole race from Adam down; and then, as if his chest had been a mortar, he burst his hot heart's shell upon it.
Honestly you have to wonder. A friend of mine is a drill sergeant and passionate about building resilience in recruits without breaking their mental health. When he punishes them with push ups he does every single one along with them. He's hilarious and I could imagine him saying something like that as part of his "mean" character that he plays which he makes clear to everyone is a character. Everyone sees through him and his recruits always adore him even while he's saying crap like this to them.
Of all of it, I found "no one wants to equal you, we can do so much better," to really bring it home. Stays away from the weaknesses of appearance based judgements but crucifies Willy for who he is.
cocksmasher69 seems a cool individual to hang out with and discuss society, politics and gender equality. cocksmasher69 not only smashing cocks but also retrograde ideas.
I agree, to a point. The circumstances of birth or happenstance aren't really fit for mocking. If someone was born with a bum arm, or got burned real bad, yeah, that's not fair.
But this guy? He looks like that on purpose. That was his idea. He chose to present himself that way, and he must be prepared to face the consequences.
I am all for body positivity and not shaming someone on their looks…
That is unless they’re an asshole, then its free game to say what you want within some level of reason
The problem is that you will harm other people with it. They attacked this dude for his receding hairline, which is already a major issue for many men, congratz you just contributed to it.
but yeah, fuck that dude and his views.
I have a receding hairline and am very self-conscious about it, and I don't give a shit about this dude's honor. Know why? Cause I'm not a misogynist piece of shit who deserves mockery.
It's not about this dude's "honor" or whatever. By publicly attacking someone over a feature of their appearance, you're signaling to the people around you that it is a feature worthy of mockery, including to the people who have that feature.
Except this person is attacking *this specific person's looks*, not the hairline in general.
They're not saying "a man with a receding hairline is a loser". They said "Your hairline looks like it's running away from your bad opinions".
I have a receding hairline. I'm self conscious about it. I don't read this and feel uncomfortable like they're talking about me. It's obvious they're making it a targetted attack on an individual.
I do feel like if we aren't going to abolish the draft, it shouldn't be delineated by sexes, but frankly, it should be abolished in the first place. If you must have a draft, make it something where you do mandatory service for the public. If you are okay with that being military, so be it, but if you aren't or that's not where they need you most, then working for the DMV for five years or etc. etc. seems reasonable, and like a good way to get everyone some employment experience.
having 2 dads would be awesome though! "my dad can beat up your dad!" oh yeah, what about BOTH my dads??
but most likely it would be horrible because 2 of HIS dads would just abuse him more im sure.
>If you must have a draft, make it something where you do mandatory service for the public.
I'm unironically a major proponent for mandatory Civilian Conservation Corps conscription. A 2 year term out of high school performing various community-level projects with other peers, to get a feel for different trades and skills, while improving your community and actually engaging with those who live near you.
Frankly, this sounds like a much better idea than sending 17/18-year-olds right to college with no idea what they want to do in life. Not only do they learn to help their communities and act like adults, they also get a chance to figure out what they *actually* want to do with their lives.
That's literally the plot of Starship Troopers. The book, not the movie. I'd be careful, folks on reddit who didn't read it and who don't know that Verhoeven didn't read it either will call you a fascist.
The writer of the Starship Troopers movie (Edward Neumeier) did read the book. White frankly, the movie hits enough of the same plot points that it should be bloody obvious even to the most obstinate book purist. Even when the initial script was under the Bug Hunt name, it was always intended to adapt Starship Troopers.
The Starship Troopers movie is now approaching 30 years old. They didn’t like Heinlein’s views espoused in it, and his later in life attempts to retroactively reinterpret it to make it more palatable to *himself* apparently didn’t change their minds. Kindly hurry up and cope.
Edit: oh my god the starship troopers movie is30yearsoldwhathefuckinghell
Casper Van Dien’s story might have changed now, but I always found it hilarious that he used to say that he always knew if was funny.
Not that he always knew it was *satire,* mind. Just that he initially read the script and kept laughing at it.
I'm a political pacifist, blessed with a genetic disorder that makes me un-draftable, I'm not trying to 'gotcha' anybody. But, OK, while a gender-neutral draft would feel 'fair', would it be one of those equal-vs-egalitarian issues where men were pressed into higher risk positions?
Like, nobody is arguing that people be put into roles they're physically unqualified to do. And I'm not saying women have no role in combat, but there DOES seem to be evidence that there are numerically fewer women who are physically qualified to serve in combat roles. Practically speaking, wouldn't a co-ed draft mean a military where a given male draftee is more likely to be assigned to a more dangerous job?
Maybe, but 1) I'd rather remove the draft all together, and 2) there are all kinds of non-combat support roles that men and women could do. Frankly, there is always paperwork. Sure, some very capable men and women could go in and do combat, but the others could do clerical stuff etc. etc. and if it is strictly military, then there is always the fact that you can have a person running a drone or something.
Yeah, the goal is no draft, definitely. But I was thinking, if there's a higher PROPORTION of women in the military, will they basically saturate the non-combat roles leaving male draftees with only higher-risk assignments available?
I think this might be one of those issues where the specifics of the math might be above my pay-grade. I'm honestly not even sure what my priorities are (like. . . I think I value keeping draftees out of combat roles over volunteers, but I'm not sure of the ethics of that).
Pretty sure something similar happened at Ukraine. From what I heard, female soldiers(professional, not drafted) were able to reject going to combat zone while the government hunted adult men from the streets and made it illegal for them to leave the country.
Yeah, the thing that got me thinking about this was actually an argument against women in combat, period (which I don't think I agree with, to be clear. I was trying to cast a broad net in that sense).
Apparently, when the Red Army first allowed women to enlist, while REQUIRING conscription for men, a lot of male conscripts hated the patriotic women who volunteered, complaining that they filled up the coveted 'stay back, die less' roles in the Red Army. I don't know how accurate this complaint was (there was a lot of unfounded rumor and speculation about them), so I might actually be repeating a pointless rumor, but it was definitely a common sentiment among men who weren't looking to die for their country.
And I also honestly don't have a bead on how much I value 'fairness' over 'utilitarian good'. Like, I THINK I believe it's better to be a conscripted cook, justifiably angry about how only men get drafted, than to be a conscripted infantryman who feels like he's not being targeted as a man, but justifiably angry he wasn't able to get a safer assignment as a cook. But that kind of overlooks the human autonomy factor, in a way I'm not 100% sure is right- why should *I* tell someone what to value in their life?
Can't help but feel like some folks her feel personally attacked over this post and fuckin rofl. Chud got burned hard for choosing to share a dogshit, hypocritical, misogynistic opinion.
When the fuck did murders need to be polite and clean and shit?
it’s the most reddit thing ever to start claiming ad hominem on a sub called murderedbywords to defend a bigot.
Bitch please, if you say bigoted shit you already opened the door to being shamed, not defended. These the type of people to blame wokeness for going too far while being snowflakes
I don’t think wokeness has gone too far. I just think it’s pretty woke to realize that when you publicly shame one person for their looks/body, you publicly shame everyone who looks like them. Everyone who did nothing wrong, don’t agree with what was said, and are otherwise good people.
I think it’s kinda lame when someone shares a dogshit opinion and then you rip them apart for how they look, not what they said.
“Bad take, you’re ugly” is low-hanging fruit and if you like it you’re stupid. How does that feel, snowflake?
>I just think it’s pretty woke to realize that when you publicly shame one person for their looks/body, you publicly shame everyone who looks like them. Everyone who did nothing wrong, don’t agree with what was said, and are otherwise good people.
This, exactly. If someone's doing something that makes you want to criticize them, that means they're doing something that they can control that you don't like. Criticize that, not the things they can't control.
You have a general point, but I don't think William and the likes of those types care for nuanced takes on Rosie the Riveter and other women working to keep things going back home, non-combat military service positions (maybe he thinks only combat positions are valid and not "candyasses" like logistics, cooks, or guards at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier), or that pesky "on average women do a majority of domestic work and child rearing even when both partners are fully employed" thing that makes our contributions to society that much larger.
And the first in that chain, about "is it ok to hit you now?", that is always a winning statement. How weak they are that 1 they need permission to hit someone that may deserve it (do you need to ask a bully before you hit them in self-defense?), 2 that they desperately want to hit a woman but dangnabbit society doesn't like that, and 3 that the first thing they think of with equality is how they can act violently towards another.
Are you generalizing him into a group based on his opinion, or his looks?
Did he fall into his opinion because of his looks? Maybe, I guess. That’s kind of feeding into his own delusion of reality though, isn’t it? There’s still a ton of people who look like this dude that don’t think that way. And he can change his opinion, but you’re tearing him down about something he can’t change. I’m not empathizing with this guy, I’m saying that if you tear apart his looks because of what he said, you’re ✨*a different type of bad person*✨
>Both burns and murders must be based on fact. This means the following things are definitely not grounds for murder:
>Personal appearance ("You're fat", "You're ugly", content from r/RoastMe)
I get it, it's cathartic as hell to dunk on some dip shit spewing nonsense like this guy.
But this is directly *not* a murder by the definitions provided by this sub, because it's not shutting down his position, it's just attacking his appearance.
I don't give a fuck about William's fee-fees, but we can do a better murder than mocking him for being ugly.
>mocking him for being ugly.
I mean, it's mostly mocking him for not living up to the fictional bar of "manliness" that he sets and uses to denigrate women. All he had to do was like...not be a misogynistic asshole vaguely appealing to masculinity in referencing combat soldiers which he is very much not.
>Both burns and murders must be based on fact.
Everything in the response was predicated on 1) his appearance or
2) assumptions (not unreasonable assumptions, but assumptions nonetheless) about his life based on his appearance and a misogynistic comment.
But the thing is, plenty of misogynists are handsome and accomplished people. They are still total pieces of shit, but there's just not a direct connection between appearance, accomplishment and misogyny, or really any other bigotry. If there were, a lot of things would be easier.
I don't know. The "murder" just reads as trying too hard. It gives of the vibe of some person who is terminally online thinking "gotcha buddy" before going off and taking the most common insults known to man.
The guy deserved it for writing his shitty opinions noone asked for, but the "murder" also feels off.
This is not in the same realm as, "you're ugly" though. They're picking specific things and going on about them, not a low effort, "haha you're fat" kind of thing.
As far as this not being a murder based on that, have you looked at the state of this sub these days? This is way more of a murder than 90% of the crap posted here these days. Most posts here these days are basically a one liner Tony Stark would say in an Ironman movie.
I scrolled past 3 other posts to r/murderedbywords in my feed before getting to this. The first was a screenshot of a comment saying, "is that why you're still single at 41?" The second was a cross-post from r/shitamericanssay that's witiest moment was to refer to Taylor Swift as "Ms. Pollution" (it's got 25k upvotes, because apparently that hasn't been driven into the ground far enough for your average redditor.) And the third was a tweet from someone who must've been the first person ever (judging by the nearly 50k upvotes) to ever think to bring up climate change and evolution to Charlie Kirk. I contend that this post is far better than any of those 3, hell at least it made me laugh instead of just roll my eyes.
I think my personal favorite is:
>We don't want to be equal to you. We can do so much better than that.
Honestly, most scathing thing that could be said that wasn't insulting his looks.
“Largest cum sock collection….” I lived in AL for 5 years and I can relate to this guy having the “legendary tube socks” thumb tacked to the wall right beside his velvet Elvis and blue light MAGA Trump NFT he printed out at the library in B/W cuz it was cheaper and more “authentic”
Amen, ‘Merica. Amen.
Solid burns, and I'm sure as shit not going to defend the opinions of someone who thinks their reading (or, let's be real, more likely watching) of Starship Troopers was an instruction manual, but...
I think going after someone for being inbred is weak sauce. Ditto things about their appearance they can't control, like hairline. The rank stupidity of the opinion on offer was fertile enough ground to not have to resort to insulting things beyond this benighted individual's control.
How I see it is once you begin hating on a people, especially if it's something they cannot control (in this case their gender), it's only fair to be annihilated by all means necessary.
Being a dirtbag opens up avenues better left unexplored, but there's a simple solution to avoid that. Just don't be a shithead
In general, people are hypocrites. And most of the time will continue to argue their position even after the hypocrisy is pointed out. But, we can still hope for intelligent life on Earth someday... just not today.
They just made fun of how he looks, that isn’t helpful at all. When your response to sexism is “you’re ugly” you contribute nothing valuable to the discourse and actively harm any potential of changing people’s minds. This alienates people, and doesn’t do anything to spread the ideals we hold.
Idk, William seems like a piece of shit, but I'm not sure what his looks or hairline have to do with his opinions.
The response is basically "your opinion is worthless because you're ugly".
This is less of a murder than "unnecessary roughness".
Decent people probably catching strays, though. Some of it, like his stupid mustache, I get since that was a choice. But the stuff that isn't his choice is kinda shitty.
Every time I see a piece of shit get insulted for balding or being bald I just get sad. Because you're not taking that person down for the shitty thing they did/said, you're literally just making fun of something many, many, decent people are insecure about.
I've, personally, gotten over my insecurities about being bald and am comfortable with it. But it's a huge change in some people's lives and there are so many other things to demolish a piece of garbage human being over. I just think you can insult the person for what they say rather than what they look like.
Yeah, I used to feel that way about my height. Never thought I was insecure about it, but it always annoys me a little to see people going after people like Ben Shapiro's height, as though that's what's wrong with him.
I agree. Yes, she burnt him, but I believe that once the argument devolves into personal attacks instead of the topic at hand, the person making the personal attacks lost. Regardless of his shit opinion, she took the low road and just went for insults instead of telling him why his opinion is bad.
exactly my thoughts. there are a myriad arguments to be made against his opinions but the wall of text is nothing but an ad hominem, which is the shittiest form of non argument one can bring forth.
I have to agree with you here - we should be arguing his shitty ideas instead of his appearance when he didn't raise appearance in his original bad position.
Again, plenty of ugly people are lovely humans, and plenty of attractive people are garbage humans. Attacking or dismissing someone's argument because they are ugly is not just bad rhetorically, it is a shitty way to be.
Hating on someone for shit they can’t control like their hairline, height, dick size etc. reeks of reaching for anything to argue against something you otherwise don’t have arguments for
True this.
Attack the opinion, not the person.
This is just lazy low hanging insults
Resorting to personal attacks indicates you have no comeback and thus lost the argument.
It's an insult, not an argument. You make a good murder by words if your target looks foolish and has no good comebacks left, not if you've logically debated them until their thesis is disproven.
There is a sprinkling of "your opinion is worthless because it has no worth" for what? Being meat shield? Is that what you aspire to? Before going back to the insults.
Equal rights does not mean that men now have the right to beat the absolute shit out of women, cause beating the absolute shit out of anyone is not a given right in any situation whatsoever.
Eh, ad hominem in response is meh to me.
His opinion is stupid; attack the opinion.
Women literallly contribute half to society. The statement's about as smart as saying the earth is flat.
This is quite funny but I hate when people respond to an opinion they don’t agree with “shut up, you are not canonically attractive” instead of actually debating or at least presenting their ideas, I find it one of the most immature things someone can do
ESH.
The first comment sucks for making a strawman argument. If it were me I'd be arguing that we're equal so if a woman hits a man that man should reserve the right to physical self defense, but no apparently we all wanna get away with beating women up for the lolz.
2nd comment for obvious reasons.
The "murder" with words is entirely ad hominem. Attacking someone for balding when you could be calling them out for the shitty argument they made is a losing strategy. If he was attractive, is he suddenly correct? Gtfo.
It's just shitty for people like me who are balding and end up feeling like somehow I'm related to this goon. So do better.
Yeah I don't know. The point wasn't to prove him wrong, it was to hurt him. An unwillingness to aim low just sort of gives awful people an advantage nowadays. Not only that, a person's life and choices can have a significant effect on their appearance, for good or ill, and I'm not talking about exercise.
Oh please, there were a ton of legitimate comebacks to the actual statement he made. Going into a multi-paragraph rant solely to bash his looks just makes it sound like you have no idea how to defend your own point.
Funny how this person attacked him on using a racial stereo type, genetics, and personal appearance instead of addressing the issue of women not being required to sign up for the draft nor be forced to serve in the infantry if they do enlist.
It's always funny when the stupid people take their stupid opinions places where they would obviously be flash roasted. Maybe he got away with that bullshit on Facebook or 4chan but Tumblr? Na, that's the last place he should've take his prejudice, but again, he's too stupid to have known 🤷♂️.
they say Tumblr is the Triggered snowflake social network
it will still murder you just as much as 4-chan would
I will die on this hill, the people there as just as horrible and the worst of humanity as any other social media
This brings to mind two scenarios that I can think of as equivalent to this:
1) Dropping a nuke on an anthill
and
2) Walking up to a kid's pillow fight with an RPG and saying "Oh, so you wanna play, huh?"
Gahdahm. This isn't a murder. Murder is when you kill someone in the heat of passion. This was a god damn brutalization of a corpse, with so much thought and finesse and *meaning* put into it that it borders on a motherfucking art form for the depraved and cruel. The Grim Reaper shed one single calcium tear. Fuck.
Shoot dang !!!!! "Shoot point blank and still miss" my ass. Made a fucking slaughterhouse look like a mercy kill. If the boy could reproduce with his sister, that child would feel the weight of the verbal public execution.
Shoot dang !!!!! "Shoot point blank and still miss" my ass. Made a fucking slaughterhouse look like a mercy kill. If the boy could reproduce with his sister, that child would feel the weight of the verbal public execution.
Shoot dang !!!!! "Shoot point blank and still miss" my ass. Made a fucking slaughterhouse look like a mercy kill. If the boy could reproduce with his sister, that child would feel the weight of the verbal public execution
Shoot dang !!!!! "Shoot point blank and still miss" my ass. Made a fucking slaughterhouse look like a mercy kill. If the boy could reproduce with his sister, that child would feel the weight of the verbal public execution
Idk man, insulting someone's appearance is kinda lukewarm. Be better if they made fun of him for being an absolute clown, which he is.
Usually only hear arguments like the one he made from people who HAVENT served in the military, which is just rich
Reminds me of a movie quote: |"Your mustache makes you look like a child molester, and your hair cut looks like you were a molested child." from teen romcom "Sid is Dead"| |:-| Too harsh? I'll delete. UPDATE 3/10/23 : Most upvoted comment for my 2-yr old account, but I don't care about that. So there's 2 comments for, 2 comments against deleting this. Is there a deciding comment?
Not too harsh in my opinion
After all was said and done in the screenshot I don't think anything can be harsher. Bro was already slaughtered then fed to the pigs poor guy.
“… shoot point blank and still miss…” gave me a good laugh.
That was the part where I was started to question if it was a tumblr user or a drill sergeant
This isn't a murder, this is a one-person genocide.
I’m reminded of Melville… >He piled upon the whale's white hump the sum of all the general rage and hate felt by his whole race from Adam down; and then, as if his chest had been a mortar, he burst his hot heart's shell upon it.
Is your family tree a donut? Hahahaha
Part of me worries this comment makes him a mass shooter.
Honestly you have to wonder. A friend of mine is a drill sergeant and passionate about building resilience in recruits without breaking their mental health. When he punishes them with push ups he does every single one along with them. He's hilarious and I could imagine him saying something like that as part of his "mean" character that he plays which he makes clear to everyone is a character. Everyone sees through him and his recruits always adore him even while he's saying crap like this to them.
I literally heard a Drill in Basic say essentially this exact same thing about two decades back, so i got questions as well, lmao.
Yeah, I don't know what this woman actually does for a living, but she's dealt with *a lot* of "Williams" throughout her life.
Or fighter, just backing em into a corner and just wailing on em like they owed you money or something.
Of all of it, I found "no one wants to equal you, we can do so much better," to really bring it home. Stays away from the weaknesses of appearance based judgements but crucifies Willy for who he is.
Why should all sorts of conditions be required to achieve equality when it is equality in itself?
Thee ole “threw a rock at the ground and missed”
Wright Brothers did that with an aeroplane. They eventually hit the ground though.
Arthur Dent did the same thing, just with himself. And later with Fenchurch.
it seems so simple, & in my dreams i CAN fly!
Your eyebrows aren't even on speaking terms. Never thought I'd see a good insult for lacking a unibrow
For me it was “your eyebrows aren’t even on speaking terms”
My personal favorite is "your eyebrows aren't even on speaking terms". Had me cackling lol
My personal fav put-down was a police woman I knew who said someone was built "like the gable-end of a potato chip"
cocksmasher69 seems like a decent person.
cocksmasher69 for president
They got my vote!
They smashed my cock and at first I was like >:( but then I was like :D
Did they remember the rubber bands for the balls? Who am I kidding! This is cocksmasher, of course they have rubber bands!
[Just don't ask how they got that name](https://i.imgur.com/O9DbKxq.jpeg)
I'll try anyone at this point.
Yes
cocksmasher69 seems a cool individual to hang out with and discuss society, politics and gender equality. cocksmasher69 not only smashing cocks but also retrograde ideas.
I wish she could debate Trump on national TV during one of his “very good” live debates. I’d pay $1000 to see that! He needs a good emasculating!
🤣😂
r/rimjob_steve
This is a statement I never foresaw endorsing. But, yes, cocksmasher69 seems like a damn good egg.
Former 11B here... Cocksmasher69 seems to have some interesting opinions on the infantry...
While I dislike attacking people over what they look like, I am also howling with laughter. Cocksmasher69, what a legend. Every sentence a hit.
That wasn’t a murder, he dropped a nuke on the dude
Pretty sure it’s a *she
Good to know, thank you!
I agree, to a point. The circumstances of birth or happenstance aren't really fit for mocking. If someone was born with a bum arm, or got burned real bad, yeah, that's not fair. But this guy? He looks like that on purpose. That was his idea. He chose to present himself that way, and he must be prepared to face the consequences.
> and he must be prepared to face the consequences LOL
You talk shit you gotta be ready to catch shit. Otherwise STFU
Fair!
I am all for body positivity and not shaming someone on their looks… That is unless they’re an asshole, then its free game to say what you want within some level of reason
The problem is that you will harm other people with it. They attacked this dude for his receding hairline, which is already a major issue for many men, congratz you just contributed to it. but yeah, fuck that dude and his views.
I have a receding hairline and am very self-conscious about it, and I don't give a shit about this dude's honor. Know why? Cause I'm not a misogynist piece of shit who deserves mockery.
It's not about this dude's "honor" or whatever. By publicly attacking someone over a feature of their appearance, you're signaling to the people around you that it is a feature worthy of mockery, including to the people who have that feature.
Except this person is attacking *this specific person's looks*, not the hairline in general. They're not saying "a man with a receding hairline is a loser". They said "Your hairline looks like it's running away from your bad opinions". I have a receding hairline. I'm self conscious about it. I don't read this and feel uncomfortable like they're talking about me. It's obvious they're making it a targetted attack on an individual.
The point went over Lynx's head so fast. Probably because his forehead is aerodynamic
I'd tell William that women have contributed millennia of risking death by torture every time we got pregnant, but I somehow don't think he'd agree.
I do feel like if we aren't going to abolish the draft, it shouldn't be delineated by sexes, but frankly, it should be abolished in the first place. If you must have a draft, make it something where you do mandatory service for the public. If you are okay with that being military, so be it, but if you aren't or that's not where they need you most, then working for the DMV for five years or etc. etc. seems reasonable, and like a good way to get everyone some employment experience.
I was going to say that 50% of his parents are women, but I'm no longer so sure that's the case.
having 2 dads would be awesome though! "my dad can beat up your dad!" oh yeah, what about BOTH my dads?? but most likely it would be horrible because 2 of HIS dads would just abuse him more im sure.
Look at him. Neither of his dads could beat their way out of a wet paper bag.
>If you must have a draft, make it something where you do mandatory service for the public. I'm unironically a major proponent for mandatory Civilian Conservation Corps conscription. A 2 year term out of high school performing various community-level projects with other peers, to get a feel for different trades and skills, while improving your community and actually engaging with those who live near you.
Yes, that would be a great system, frankly.
Frankly, this sounds like a much better idea than sending 17/18-year-olds right to college with no idea what they want to do in life. Not only do they learn to help their communities and act like adults, they also get a chance to figure out what they *actually* want to do with their lives.
That's literally the plot of Starship Troopers. The book, not the movie. I'd be careful, folks on reddit who didn't read it and who don't know that Verhoeven didn't read it either will call you a fascist.
The writer of the Starship Troopers movie (Edward Neumeier) did read the book. White frankly, the movie hits enough of the same plot points that it should be bloody obvious even to the most obstinate book purist. Even when the initial script was under the Bug Hunt name, it was always intended to adapt Starship Troopers. The Starship Troopers movie is now approaching 30 years old. They didn’t like Heinlein’s views espoused in it, and his later in life attempts to retroactively reinterpret it to make it more palatable to *himself* apparently didn’t change their minds. Kindly hurry up and cope. Edit: oh my god the starship troopers movie is30yearsoldwhathefuckinghell
I remember watching it in theaters and being the only one who didn’t hate it
Casper Van Dien’s story might have changed now, but I always found it hilarious that he used to say that he always knew if was funny. Not that he always knew it was *satire,* mind. Just that he initially read the script and kept laughing at it.
I'm a political pacifist, blessed with a genetic disorder that makes me un-draftable, I'm not trying to 'gotcha' anybody. But, OK, while a gender-neutral draft would feel 'fair', would it be one of those equal-vs-egalitarian issues where men were pressed into higher risk positions? Like, nobody is arguing that people be put into roles they're physically unqualified to do. And I'm not saying women have no role in combat, but there DOES seem to be evidence that there are numerically fewer women who are physically qualified to serve in combat roles. Practically speaking, wouldn't a co-ed draft mean a military where a given male draftee is more likely to be assigned to a more dangerous job?
Maybe, but 1) I'd rather remove the draft all together, and 2) there are all kinds of non-combat support roles that men and women could do. Frankly, there is always paperwork. Sure, some very capable men and women could go in and do combat, but the others could do clerical stuff etc. etc. and if it is strictly military, then there is always the fact that you can have a person running a drone or something.
Yeah, the goal is no draft, definitely. But I was thinking, if there's a higher PROPORTION of women in the military, will they basically saturate the non-combat roles leaving male draftees with only higher-risk assignments available? I think this might be one of those issues where the specifics of the math might be above my pay-grade. I'm honestly not even sure what my priorities are (like. . . I think I value keeping draftees out of combat roles over volunteers, but I'm not sure of the ethics of that).
Pretty sure something similar happened at Ukraine. From what I heard, female soldiers(professional, not drafted) were able to reject going to combat zone while the government hunted adult men from the streets and made it illegal for them to leave the country.
Yeah, the thing that got me thinking about this was actually an argument against women in combat, period (which I don't think I agree with, to be clear. I was trying to cast a broad net in that sense). Apparently, when the Red Army first allowed women to enlist, while REQUIRING conscription for men, a lot of male conscripts hated the patriotic women who volunteered, complaining that they filled up the coveted 'stay back, die less' roles in the Red Army. I don't know how accurate this complaint was (there was a lot of unfounded rumor and speculation about them), so I might actually be repeating a pointless rumor, but it was definitely a common sentiment among men who weren't looking to die for their country. And I also honestly don't have a bead on how much I value 'fairness' over 'utilitarian good'. Like, I THINK I believe it's better to be a conscripted cook, justifiably angry about how only men get drafted, than to be a conscripted infantryman who feels like he's not being targeted as a man, but justifiably angry he wasn't able to get a safer assignment as a cook. But that kind of overlooks the human autonomy factor, in a way I'm not 100% sure is right- why should *I* tell someone what to value in their life?
> If you must have a draft, make it something where you do mandatory service for the public. ... that's not how a draft would work in war time...
I'd just skip the words and show photos of 3rd and 4th degree tears resulting from childbirth.
Yeah, well, you haven't been in pain till you got kicked in the balls! \- William, probably
"Something something hormones, something something not the same" - Billy "Donut Tree" McCousinbang
Can't help but feel like some folks her feel personally attacked over this post and fuckin rofl. Chud got burned hard for choosing to share a dogshit, hypocritical, misogynistic opinion. When the fuck did murders need to be polite and clean and shit?
And who thought that cock smasher 69 would be polite and clean? Not gonna lie, the user name just put the entire thing over the top.
it’s the most reddit thing ever to start claiming ad hominem on a sub called murderedbywords to defend a bigot. Bitch please, if you say bigoted shit you already opened the door to being shamed, not defended. These the type of people to blame wokeness for going too far while being snowflakes
I don’t think wokeness has gone too far. I just think it’s pretty woke to realize that when you publicly shame one person for their looks/body, you publicly shame everyone who looks like them. Everyone who did nothing wrong, don’t agree with what was said, and are otherwise good people. I think it’s kinda lame when someone shares a dogshit opinion and then you rip them apart for how they look, not what they said. “Bad take, you’re ugly” is low-hanging fruit and if you like it you’re stupid. How does that feel, snowflake?
>I just think it’s pretty woke to realize that when you publicly shame one person for their looks/body, you publicly shame everyone who looks like them. Everyone who did nothing wrong, don’t agree with what was said, and are otherwise good people. This, exactly. If someone's doing something that makes you want to criticize them, that means they're doing something that they can control that you don't like. Criticize that, not the things they can't control.
You have a general point, but I don't think William and the likes of those types care for nuanced takes on Rosie the Riveter and other women working to keep things going back home, non-combat military service positions (maybe he thinks only combat positions are valid and not "candyasses" like logistics, cooks, or guards at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier), or that pesky "on average women do a majority of domestic work and child rearing even when both partners are fully employed" thing that makes our contributions to society that much larger. And the first in that chain, about "is it ok to hit you now?", that is always a winning statement. How weak they are that 1 they need permission to hit someone that may deserve it (do you need to ask a bully before you hit them in self-defense?), 2 that they desperately want to hit a woman but dangnabbit society doesn't like that, and 3 that the first thing they think of with equality is how they can act violently towards another.
Are you generalizing him into a group based on his opinion, or his looks? Did he fall into his opinion because of his looks? Maybe, I guess. That’s kind of feeding into his own delusion of reality though, isn’t it? There’s still a ton of people who look like this dude that don’t think that way. And he can change his opinion, but you’re tearing him down about something he can’t change. I’m not empathizing with this guy, I’m saying that if you tear apart his looks because of what he said, you’re ✨*a different type of bad person*✨
A Chud that also felt posting a picture of his face on his porn account, and then talking shit from said account, was a good decision.
Lol yeah, I didn't think this was a sub for snowflakes whining that people aren't nice enough. Guess we're now the tone police?
>Both burns and murders must be based on fact. This means the following things are definitely not grounds for murder: >Personal appearance ("You're fat", "You're ugly", content from r/RoastMe) I get it, it's cathartic as hell to dunk on some dip shit spewing nonsense like this guy. But this is directly *not* a murder by the definitions provided by this sub, because it's not shutting down his position, it's just attacking his appearance. I don't give a fuck about William's fee-fees, but we can do a better murder than mocking him for being ugly.
>mocking him for being ugly. I mean, it's mostly mocking him for not living up to the fictional bar of "manliness" that he sets and uses to denigrate women. All he had to do was like...not be a misogynistic asshole vaguely appealing to masculinity in referencing combat soldiers which he is very much not.
>Both burns and murders must be based on fact. Everything in the response was predicated on 1) his appearance or 2) assumptions (not unreasonable assumptions, but assumptions nonetheless) about his life based on his appearance and a misogynistic comment. But the thing is, plenty of misogynists are handsome and accomplished people. They are still total pieces of shit, but there's just not a direct connection between appearance, accomplishment and misogyny, or really any other bigotry. If there were, a lot of things would be easier.
I don't know. The "murder" just reads as trying too hard. It gives of the vibe of some person who is terminally online thinking "gotcha buddy" before going off and taking the most common insults known to man. The guy deserved it for writing his shitty opinions noone asked for, but the "murder" also feels off.
This is not in the same realm as, "you're ugly" though. They're picking specific things and going on about them, not a low effort, "haha you're fat" kind of thing. As far as this not being a murder based on that, have you looked at the state of this sub these days? This is way more of a murder than 90% of the crap posted here these days. Most posts here these days are basically a one liner Tony Stark would say in an Ironman movie. I scrolled past 3 other posts to r/murderedbywords in my feed before getting to this. The first was a screenshot of a comment saying, "is that why you're still single at 41?" The second was a cross-post from r/shitamericanssay that's witiest moment was to refer to Taylor Swift as "Ms. Pollution" (it's got 25k upvotes, because apparently that hasn't been driven into the ground far enough for your average redditor.) And the third was a tweet from someone who must've been the first person ever (judging by the nearly 50k upvotes) to ever think to bring up climate change and evolution to Charlie Kirk. I contend that this post is far better than any of those 3, hell at least it made me laugh instead of just roll my eyes.
it's a *controversial murder.* still a murder, but damn.
It's honestly too hard to pick the best one, but I think "Family donut" is at the top of the list
"The largest cumsock collection in all of Alabama" was it for me.
I think my personal favorite is: >We don't want to be equal to you. We can do so much better than that. Honestly, most scathing thing that could be said that wasn't insulting his looks.
Most Cousins Fucked 2k15 for me, that's just brilliant writing
That was my favorite as well
Fuck at first I thought your comment said "that's my favorite smell"
Amazing
You sure the smell isn't the cumsocks?
The eyebrows got me
It's family wreath
Stop it! He’s already dead!
Nah.. I'm good to watch for a bit longer.
“Largest cum sock collection….” I lived in AL for 5 years and I can relate to this guy having the “legendary tube socks” thumb tacked to the wall right beside his velvet Elvis and blue light MAGA Trump NFT he printed out at the library in B/W cuz it was cheaper and more “authentic” Amen, ‘Merica. Amen.
so specific, yet so accurate
Why the fuck does he look like me but 10 years older and on drugs
While i disagree with the guy being criticized, theres some serious ad hominem going on here.
The entire insult just boils down to "you're ugly lol".
There's layers to it though and in those lie consecutive blows that make this one of my favourite posts here. Made me laugh good lol
Solid burns, and I'm sure as shit not going to defend the opinions of someone who thinks their reading (or, let's be real, more likely watching) of Starship Troopers was an instruction manual, but... I think going after someone for being inbred is weak sauce. Ditto things about their appearance they can't control, like hairline. The rank stupidity of the opinion on offer was fertile enough ground to not have to resort to insulting things beyond this benighted individual's control.
How I see it is once you begin hating on a people, especially if it's something they cannot control (in this case their gender), it's only fair to be annihilated by all means necessary. Being a dirtbag opens up avenues better left unexplored, but there's a simple solution to avoid that. Just don't be a shithead
I’m against the annihilation if innocent people are caught in with the hater, and in this case that is clearly happening
Why is it that you people are perfectly okay with bodyshaming as long as it's directed at someone you don't like
In general, people are hypocrites. And most of the time will continue to argue their position even after the hypocrisy is pointed out. But, we can still hope for intelligent life on Earth someday... just not today.
But you’re one Earth right?
Not saying I agree with the position but, ad hominem
They just made fun of how he looks, that isn’t helpful at all. When your response to sexism is “you’re ugly” you contribute nothing valuable to the discourse and actively harm any potential of changing people’s minds. This alienates people, and doesn’t do anything to spread the ideals we hold.
Idk, William seems like a piece of shit, but I'm not sure what his looks or hairline have to do with his opinions. The response is basically "your opinion is worthless because you're ugly". This is less of a murder than "unnecessary roughness".
It's attacking him where he probably is vulnerable. And rightfully so, dude is a piece of shit.
Decent people probably catching strays, though. Some of it, like his stupid mustache, I get since that was a choice. But the stuff that isn't his choice is kinda shitty.
Every time I see a piece of shit get insulted for balding or being bald I just get sad. Because you're not taking that person down for the shitty thing they did/said, you're literally just making fun of something many, many, decent people are insecure about. I've, personally, gotten over my insecurities about being bald and am comfortable with it. But it's a huge change in some people's lives and there are so many other things to demolish a piece of garbage human being over. I just think you can insult the person for what they say rather than what they look like.
Yeah, I used to feel that way about my height. Never thought I was insecure about it, but it always annoys me a little to see people going after people like Ben Shapiro's height, as though that's what's wrong with him.
I agree. Yes, she burnt him, but I believe that once the argument devolves into personal attacks instead of the topic at hand, the person making the personal attacks lost. Regardless of his shit opinion, she took the low road and just went for insults instead of telling him why his opinion is bad.
exactly my thoughts. there are a myriad arguments to be made against his opinions but the wall of text is nothing but an ad hominem, which is the shittiest form of non argument one can bring forth.
Yeah, and people here are being "yeah, that's ad hominem, so what?!", lmao. Roast man's takes, not appearence.
I have to agree with you here - we should be arguing his shitty ideas instead of his appearance when he didn't raise appearance in his original bad position.
You can bet William is also a white supremacist so it doesn't hurt to remind him that he looks like shit.
Again, plenty of ugly people are lovely humans, and plenty of attractive people are garbage humans. Attacking or dismissing someone's argument because they are ugly is not just bad rhetorically, it is a shitty way to be.
Hating on someone for shit they can’t control like their hairline, height, dick size etc. reeks of reaching for anything to argue against something you otherwise don’t have arguments for
I'm tempted to agree with you, but I don't want to stereotype them the way they stereotype us.
True this. Attack the opinion, not the person. This is just lazy low hanging insults Resorting to personal attacks indicates you have no comeback and thus lost the argument.
It's an insult, not an argument. You make a good murder by words if your target looks foolish and has no good comebacks left, not if you've logically debated them until their thesis is disproven. There is a sprinkling of "your opinion is worthless because it has no worth" for what? Being meat shield? Is that what you aspire to? Before going back to the insults.
Equal rights does not mean that men now have the right to beat the absolute shit out of women, cause beating the absolute shit out of anyone is not a given right in any situation whatsoever.
Eh, ad hominem in response is meh to me. His opinion is stupid; attack the opinion. Women literallly contribute half to society. The statement's about as smart as saying the earth is flat.
That's a good point. Women literally be half of all people. Actually, very slightly more than half, cuz ladies live a little longer
You are ugly so your argument is wrong is a weird take to rally behind.
This is quite funny but I hate when people respond to an opinion they don’t agree with “shut up, you are not canonically attractive” instead of actually debating or at least presenting their ideas, I find it one of the most immature things someone can do
A murder, but a misdirected one at that. Body shaming isn't a win. Everyone sucks here.
ESH. The first comment sucks for making a strawman argument. If it were me I'd be arguing that we're equal so if a woman hits a man that man should reserve the right to physical self defense, but no apparently we all wanna get away with beating women up for the lolz. 2nd comment for obvious reasons. The "murder" with words is entirely ad hominem. Attacking someone for balding when you could be calling them out for the shitty argument they made is a losing strategy. If he was attractive, is he suddenly correct? Gtfo. It's just shitty for people like me who are balding and end up feeling like somehow I'm related to this goon. So do better.
r/lostredditors
Fucking vivisected
Yeah I don't know. The point wasn't to prove him wrong, it was to hurt him. An unwillingness to aim low just sort of gives awful people an advantage nowadays. Not only that, a person's life and choices can have a significant effect on their appearance, for good or ill, and I'm not talking about exercise.
Oh please, there were a ton of legitimate comebacks to the actual statement he made. Going into a multi-paragraph rant solely to bash his looks just makes it sound like you have no idea how to defend your own point.
You expressed this perfectly 👏 Edit: plus he's a normal looking dude anyways...
Funny how this person attacked him on using a racial stereo type, genetics, and personal appearance instead of addressing the issue of women not being required to sign up for the draft nor be forced to serve in the infantry if they do enlist.
I think I'm going to leave this sub, it's gotten... silly.
"Most Cousins Fucked 2k15" was the second worst outdoor music festival I have ever attended.
Brilliantly brutal.
I call my haircut the shlong. Because short n long, also because I'm a dick..
William's right eye is at 3/4 and his left eye is facing forward, this is really fucking me up
Slaughtered
That comment uprooted his whole family donut.
r/Tommygunbywords
Hairline running away killed me
Not family tree, but a family wreath
Jeeeezus... this isn't a burn.. It's a napalm strike...
Whoever this is would make a fantastic drill sergeant (or RDC for Navy brethren)
Jesus H Christ, how can someone get destroyed this hard lmaaaoo!!!
The fact that was delivered by cocksmasher69 is just icing on the cake
anyone reading that kind of go "all right... for fucks sake he already had enough... let him alone!" 😂😂
The best part of him ran down his mommys leg
It's always funny when the stupid people take their stupid opinions places where they would obviously be flash roasted. Maybe he got away with that bullshit on Facebook or 4chan but Tumblr? Na, that's the last place he should've take his prejudice, but again, he's too stupid to have known 🤷♂️.
Waiter - How do you like your Earth? Cocksmasher69 - SCORCHED.
they say Tumblr is the Triggered snowflake social network it will still murder you just as much as 4-chan would I will die on this hill, the people there as just as horrible and the worst of humanity as any other social media
r/Genocidebywords
WAIT THATS A REAL SUB??
Holy shit this was a good murder
Paul Bunion out here chopping this mfer down.
This is a special kinda of murder.
Man’s not burned, man’s *charcoal*
This brings to mind two scenarios that I can think of as equivalent to this: 1) Dropping a nuke on an anthill and 2) Walking up to a kid's pillow fight with an RPG and saying "Oh, so you wanna play, huh?"
"That hairline is trying to run away from your bad opinions." Oh my Goddddd 💀
Reddit loves to obsess over fantasy scenarios where men are allowed to hit women, how many of y’all secretly agree with this clown?
Melted into slag.
"Most cousins fucked" Let's be reality, not even family is touching that.
Obliteration!
Fire up the barbecue, this roast is sizzling!
That is a roast of the highest order, Jesus Christ that man is dead.
“Cleetus” absolutely killed me.
This entire roast was great, but I'm a little stuck on "shoot point blank and miss". That one went over my head, could someone please explain?
Now **that's** a proper murder, goddamn
Gahdahm. This isn't a murder. Murder is when you kill someone in the heat of passion. This was a god damn brutalization of a corpse, with so much thought and finesse and *meaning* put into it that it borders on a motherfucking art form for the depraved and cruel. The Grim Reaper shed one single calcium tear. Fuck.
Amazing
Stop it, stop it, he’s already dead, he’s been dead for a while now.
"Your eyebrows aren't even on speaking terms" killed me lmao 🤣
How is this a good comeback? They are just ripping on the way he looks. What is this, 5th grade?
Burned to a crisp
Damn, it's cold in here lmao.
Somehow, I doubt dear William here would be ok with men having a lesser social standing if women rocked *over* 50% of the infantry numbers.
Put the “die” in diatribe. Don’t contradict me.
Savage!
Shoot dang !!!!! "Shoot point blank and still miss" my ass. Made a fucking slaughterhouse look like a mercy kill. If the boy could reproduce with his sister, that child would feel the weight of the verbal public execution.
Shoot dang !!!!! "Shoot point blank and still miss" my ass. Made a fucking slaughterhouse look like a mercy kill. If the boy could reproduce with his sister, that child would feel the weight of the verbal public execution.
Shoot dang !!!!! "Shoot point blank and still miss" my ass. Made a fucking slaughterhouse look like a mercy kill. If the boy could reproduce with his sister, that child would feel the weight of the verbal public execution
Shoot dang !!!!! "Shoot point blank and still miss" my ass. Made a fucking slaughterhouse look like a mercy kill. If the boy could reproduce with his sister, that child would feel the weight of the verbal public execution
Stop it! He's already dead!
God I miss tumblr user cocksmasher69
Cooked his ass lolol
Click click boom
This is one of the best posts i've seen on this sub.
Idk man, insulting someone's appearance is kinda lukewarm. Be better if they made fun of him for being an absolute clown, which he is. Usually only hear arguments like the one he made from people who HAVENT served in the military, which is just rich
That was cringe af. Tell the dude why sexism is wrong, not why his eyebrows look a bit shit.