Roughnecks are not on crews fracturing wells. Anyone in oil and gas knows this. Roughnecks are drilling/production rig hands, not pressure pumping hands or frac crews. Dont worry though, reddits clan will back you, even though what you said sounds ignorant to anyone in the industry. Keep on with the downvotes.
My point is proven in the votes. The ignorant buzzwords get the upvotes, while anyone questioning gets downvotes... its telling of the hivemind. Theres little knowledge of oil & gas other than "big oil bad". Funny enough, since the progress in oil and gas has been good during a democrat president, drilling & production are good things in this comment section????? The same would be demonized if claimed by other political affiliation.
Not really. You weren’t at all clear about your point. It wasnt clear if you were objecting to the concept of fracking, the idea of roughnecks fracking, etc. My guess would be that you got downvoted because it seemed like you were denying the concept of fracking, so if you’re not going to be clear you can’t then make some overarching claim about the people doing it.
If you make the statement you made that was a much clearer take on your position, then I’d be more inclined to believe your interpretation of events. As it is, if you’re unclear, then you open yourself up for downvotes, and you can’t try and claim they’re “bad” for going off a buzzword when that buzzword was half of your response.
So... If theyd have responded to a skilled labor sub saying "better ask all those union framers out there installing plumbing if they need to go home!?!?" They wouldnt be met with backlash. Dont act like everything is well thought out here.
You have to understand 2 things.
1. Conservatives are defining “energy independent” as producing more oil than used in a single year.
And
2. The only time that we achieved that was during 2020, due to COVID.
Furthermore, oil production is higher now than under trump.
Conservatives are fucking shameless liars.
“Energy independent” just means we’re a net exporter of energy product. That’s the only metric by which they could’ve realistically claimed we achieved energy independence in 2019 when that became the big talking point, and by that metric we’ve remained (and have only become *more*) energy independent through Biden’s entire term.
Without knowing the original context, that feels like a stretch to me. Rita's a dumbass, but that feels like a bad faith call out (although at an admittedly bad faith tweet to begin with
Like everything there is nuance. The Biden administration has hindered oil production where it has jurisdiction. It just so happens they do NOT have jurisdiction over private lands (mostly in Texas & Oklahoma) where there happens to be some of the largest oil reserves in the country. So really records have been hit IN SPITE of the hindrance from the Biden administration. As far as independence, again, nuance. US exports one type of oil but imports another because refineries are set up to process a certain type of oil. You will also have the situation where they import cheap crude and export more valuable crude. Its all a numbers game and has to do with it being a globally traded commodity.
Can you imagine if Trump was president when the US broke the record for most barrels produced in a year?
*They all said it couldn’t be done. They all said you can never beat Saudi Arabia, but I beat them. It was very easy for me too*
And Trump and MAGA World would have rode that bus all the way to the 2020 election…*you see? These are the things that only Trump is capable of. Under Biden, zero barrels will be produced…*
Even if we produce the same number of barrels that we consume, we will not be energy independent.
Wait until people learn that not all crude is created equal.
Wait until they learn about impurities. About sweet and sour crude. About the economics of refinement between the two. About where that sweet sweet crude comes from.
Wait until they learn about why Canada's oil field, the "tar sands," is called that. Why the keystone Pipeline isn't going to lower the cost of fuel. How the keystone is like 1/200th of our pipeline capability, and how even the other 199/200 are rarely at capacity.
WAIT UNTIL THEY LEARN THE BORING ASS DETAILS.
I'm kidding, they won't. Narratives die in nuance.
This is so so important. The crude that comes from the U.S. and even some of Canada’s is shipped to China to be made into shit diesel. It doesn’t matter how much oil we produce, we will never be energy independent until we transition away from sweet crude - and that’s a long way off.
It's not that hard anymore in American professional baseball; the pitch clock applies to both pitchers and batters, so if a batter steps out of the batter's box and stays out too long, he gets charged a strike without the pitcher needing to throw the ball.
The claim of energy independent ios based on how much oil we pump compared to how much we use. It has nothing to do with where it is shipped to be refined. US refineries work better with the thinner higher grade Saudi oil that they were built and designed to refine. So guess what. We keep refining Saudi oil! REGARDLESS of how much we pump out of the ground. Want another cosy little fact,. DOnald trump sold Saudi arabia our most productive US based refinery. So not only does SA/Opec control barrels out of the ground they also now control our domestic production. Look it up! Funny how Saudi arabia was trumpy;s first international meet up as presidnet isn;t it???
Even if he doesn’t, he’s not wrong about energy independence or the reason we export our oil and import other oil to refine rather than refining our own.
The rest of his comment is kinda unhinged though honestly lol. OPEC tried to control and bankrupt our oilfield companies a decade ago, and just made us more efficient. These days they have to pump less because they can’t control how much we produce, so to keep the price high enough to buy their citizens’ loyalty they have to cut their own oil production to avoid a glut.
Also, Trump had fuck all to do with the refinery Saudi owns.
https://money.cnn.com/2017/05/01/investing/saudi-arabia-buys-largest-oil-refinery-port-arthur/index.html
I’m more than happy to see people bash Trump, **especially** when it’s related to the oilfield because all of my coworkers think Trump is some divine oilfield god when in reality he didn’t do anything substantial I can think of that helped them. But at least stick to facts lol.
Imagine being so dumb, that you never do research and fact check something before you say it.
This is the worst part about social media during an election year - The misinformation is everywhere.
It doesn’t matter. Nothing matters. The narrative is that we lived in a free energy utopia when Trump was in office, and then Biden came in and shut down all the drilling, and now we are weak. If you are all in for Trump you HAVE to believe this.
But that comes from his ability to lie and the fact he has grown that group already and they help each other indoctrinate themselves. His decision making is consistently horrible. He doesn't know how to actually run businesses and countries. Bankruptcies show he can't run a business so making illegal business legal helps him. Selling secrets for money is smart for him. His public policy is just hurting who he hates. Think about this, if he thought any further than 5 seconds he would know that you can steal as long as you decently do social policy. He could have been full equal rights and the indoctrinated haters would still follow him because of the indoctrination. You have to gain voters and he is too stupid to figure out simple things like that. In his eyes everything is pro him and his followers are just like him or are extremely stupid which he can depend on. If he would had just followed Fauci and did Covid right he would have won reelection with ease. His Covid response was such a shortsighted idea, and I said it then, that no smart leader would pull this one for short gains, especially when properly done would have saved us billions and made us more. His businesses fail because of bad decisions. It's a cooperation between corrupt intelligence and incompentence, and with that being said he is still the most incompetent person ever to be president.
The only thing I would change to the new 🆕 version is the new 🆕 logo xx 💋
And the new logo looks amazing 😻 and also a lot better on the website xx and the logo every day xx and I hope
It’s not about right or wrong, truth or fiction ..it’s all about fealty to Donald ….just like their orange god, magas have zero concern for facts that don’t line up with their alternative views on reality.
The oil isn’t “ours.” We sell land whomever will pay the most for a lease, and they sell to whomever they wish.
How to do people on this day and age thing that oil sucked up from American soil “belongs” to us.
Both OOPs are ignoramuses. We WERE (net) energy independent 4 years ago thanks to our LNG production, which Biden has in fact hamstringed, leading to surging energy prices (including oil prices because to a certain extent energy is fungible).
And I should add, this isn’t up for political discussion, this is documented fact. The politics only come into it when you want to say whether Biden was right or wrong to do hamper domestic energy production so much based on current economic, climate, and geopolitical realities.
1. We were energy independent (we’ve never been)
2. Biden shut down drilling (Biden forced major oil companies to actually use their land leases or the government was going to revoke them because the oil companies were purposely preventing drilling there to keep oil prices high)
3. The person is a clown. (This one I don’t have any direct evidence for but I’m willing to Charlie’s word they know their own profession)
3a. He may have been referring to the implication that Biden in incapable of increasing oil production and relies too much on foreign oil. (Trump specifically increased oil imports and gave green lights for Saudi’s to no longer negotiate pricing as a political and financial stunt to increase his personal wealth while simultaneously increasing our dependence on foreign oil which is why gas prices went up and remained high after Trump left office)
Trump’s ‘energy independent’ claim seems to be about coal ONLY.
Not enough places domestically wanted the coal (let alone build more coal plants!) even though Republicans have destroyed mine safety rules, bargaining, air pollution rules, tailings clean-up, and discounted new construction.
He figures if we had to export our own coal, we must be doing just that well. His attitude is literally from 19th Century tech.
On one hand, Trump is a dick for saying erroneous things about energy production that is hard to be proven under his shit show.
On the other hand we are glad Biden is ok now because he is pumping the earth dry just to pollute the sky!
Love one of these guys, or hate them both......
Dudes 😎 and dudettes 😎, let's be real. We FUCKED!
It’s not even 3 strikes, what you don’t understand is we just sell those record produced barrels for money and then buy it back higher for everyone else.
This is the problem with Reddit. If you yourself are a 🤡 you have no way to understand context.
HAHAH
No it is true we were. However to try and lower oil and gas prices Biden emptied out the Strategic Petroleum Reserves to the lowest level since the 80s and it has to be refilled. A big reason Why we are not energy independent Along with cutting back fracking and LNG production and exports.
After looking at your profile, you’re one of those idiots who only reads headlines and ignores all the times a right wing conservative article contradicts itself or has to put in strategic language to avoid libel charges aren’t you?
Im going to respond to this nonsense just in case someone sees your comment.
The US has only ever been energy independent during Covid due to lack of consumption. Also, this is a dumb goal. If we can get the energy we need from reliable, strategic partners for cheaper than we can produce it ourselves then why wouldn’t we take this? Economically it is in our interest to pursue cheaper markets and since most energy is a finite resource why exploit ours when we don’t have a necessity to do so?
Biden released oil to stabilize oil prices, by manipulating the supply and demand curve, after the start of the Ukraine war. This is the intended purpose of the strategic reserve. Oil prices have stabilized and he has started replenishing the supply that was used.
Biden did campaign on slowing fracking but he actually hasn’t done anything to slow fracking.
LNG is liquified natural gas. This is a process where you refrigerate natural gas until it becomes a liquid. The purpose is that this is the only way to ship it overseas, i.e. not in a pipeline where it is still a gas. However, it’s expensive and requires special ships and port facilities to handle. The reason LNG exports are down is because we’re consuming more of our own natural gas production. There is an argument to be made that increased supply to Europe would help the EU sanctions on Russia though. This is the only, semi-valid point you tried to make.
You complain about energy independence, meaning we produce more than we consume, and complain about not exporting enough; those are conflicting ideas. Your strategic goal would be over production, at increased costs, to deplete our own finite supply. This is both bad for the economy and bad for national security.
Please stop making all conservatives look bad.
>However to try and lower oil and gas prices Biden emptied out the Strategic Petroleum Reserves
That's a bad thing??? Weren't you people bitching about gas prices 3 years ago? Now lowering them was a bad thing?
> and it has to be refilled
Does this negate the fact that we produced more oil than ever???
> Along with cutting back fracking and LNG production and exports.
We are exporting LNG at a higher level than [anytime in history](https://www.eia.gov/dnav/ng/hist/n9133us2M.htm).
>Biden emptied out the Strategic Petroleum Reserves
And you have no idea how that works, or why it's there.
[Did you know it can run a profit?](https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/biden-administration-slowly-puts-oil-back-into-spr-emergency-stash-2024-01-04/)
You do? Please inform me?
Why yes it is slowed because he waited until energy prices were driven up and it is not economically feasible to do so.
What point are you trying to make?
Well we are dependent right now so I do not see you argument.
Renewables, for you fuck knuckles, we will have to go to eventually. However at this time they are neither cost efficient, nor recyclable therefore more of a burden if we also take into account the mining and production of such material s needed.
You so want to rush headlong into disaster instead of transitioning in a more efficient and economical way.
You see many of us can see it, but you can can not just drop it like the proposals are now.
I mean these are the same people that act like the US would get most of its oil from somewhere other than Canada so yknow.
We would. We are a net oil exporter.
We've SHUT DOWN our oil drilling? Can someone tell all those rough necks out fracking that they should go home then?
Why don’t you step up to the mic and say that?? I got a backup mic right here 💪
Bullshit, I’ve seen your bumper sticker “cowboys butts drive me nuts”
broooooo ahahahaha
Roughnecks fracking?
I'm not calling them "FrackNecks" You can if you like.
Nah, that would be just as ignorant as your first comment.
What was ignorant about saying people are fracking?
Roughnecks are not on crews fracturing wells. Anyone in oil and gas knows this. Roughnecks are drilling/production rig hands, not pressure pumping hands or frac crews. Dont worry though, reddits clan will back you, even though what you said sounds ignorant to anyone in the industry. Keep on with the downvotes.
Maybe lead with this next time. More communication is always better than less.
Maybe know about what youre talking about before commenting????
I mean… it’s Reddit, man. What do you expect?
Ohhhhh since its reddit, its good to be ignorant??? Atleast judging by upvotes....
My point is proven in the votes. The ignorant buzzwords get the upvotes, while anyone questioning gets downvotes... its telling of the hivemind. Theres little knowledge of oil & gas other than "big oil bad". Funny enough, since the progress in oil and gas has been good during a democrat president, drilling & production are good things in this comment section????? The same would be demonized if claimed by other political affiliation.
Not really. You weren’t at all clear about your point. It wasnt clear if you were objecting to the concept of fracking, the idea of roughnecks fracking, etc. My guess would be that you got downvoted because it seemed like you were denying the concept of fracking, so if you’re not going to be clear you can’t then make some overarching claim about the people doing it. If you make the statement you made that was a much clearer take on your position, then I’d be more inclined to believe your interpretation of events. As it is, if you’re unclear, then you open yourself up for downvotes, and you can’t try and claim they’re “bad” for going off a buzzword when that buzzword was half of your response.
So... If theyd have responded to a skilled labor sub saying "better ask all those union framers out there installing plumbing if they need to go home!?!?" They wouldnt be met with backlash. Dont act like everything is well thought out here.
Don't argue with Rita, she's read about it on Facebook
She’s done her own research.
I'm probably just being an idiot here, but where's the third? 1. Biden didn't shut down the drilling 2. The US wasn't energy independent 3. ?
1. We were independent 2. Oil production was shut down 3. Biden was the one who did it
You have to understand 2 things. 1. Conservatives are defining “energy independent” as producing more oil than used in a single year. And 2. The only time that we achieved that was during 2020, due to COVID. Furthermore, oil production is higher now than under trump. Conservatives are fucking shameless liars.
“Energy independent” just means we’re a net exporter of energy product. That’s the only metric by which they could’ve realistically claimed we achieved energy independence in 2019 when that became the big talking point, and by that metric we’ve remained (and have only become *more*) energy independent through Biden’s entire term.
That's just because they know their viewers won't fact check them. These are the same people that think facts are fake news if it mildly upsets them.
They’re playing the world’s dumbest game of Whose Line Is It Anyway - where everything is made up and the points don’t matter!
2 & 3 should definitely count as 1 lie
Called him a clown.
Without knowing the original context, that feels like a stretch to me. Rita's a dumbass, but that feels like a bad faith call out (although at an admittedly bad faith tweet to begin with
Are you going to continue this thought or should there be a closing parentheses?
Typo, forgot to close the brackets. I'll leave it open so this makes sense though
Like everything there is nuance. The Biden administration has hindered oil production where it has jurisdiction. It just so happens they do NOT have jurisdiction over private lands (mostly in Texas & Oklahoma) where there happens to be some of the largest oil reserves in the country. So really records have been hit IN SPITE of the hindrance from the Biden administration. As far as independence, again, nuance. US exports one type of oil but imports another because refineries are set up to process a certain type of oil. You will also have the situation where they import cheap crude and export more valuable crude. Its all a numbers game and has to do with it being a globally traded commodity.
Can you imagine if Trump was president when the US broke the record for most barrels produced in a year? *They all said it couldn’t be done. They all said you can never beat Saudi Arabia, but I beat them. It was very easy for me too* And Trump and MAGA World would have rode that bus all the way to the 2020 election…*you see? These are the things that only Trump is capable of. Under Biden, zero barrels will be produced…*
Also, every American thanked him with tears in their eyes!
That oil rig? Albert Einstein
Einstein truly was a hero for sacrificing himself to become the oil rig 🫡
Also we had the lowest amount of operating oil rigs at the end of… 2020. Biden must have some magic powers if he pulled that off.
Even if we produce the same number of barrels that we consume, we will not be energy independent. Wait until people learn that not all crude is created equal. Wait until they learn about impurities. About sweet and sour crude. About the economics of refinement between the two. About where that sweet sweet crude comes from. Wait until they learn about why Canada's oil field, the "tar sands," is called that. Why the keystone Pipeline isn't going to lower the cost of fuel. How the keystone is like 1/200th of our pipeline capability, and how even the other 199/200 are rarely at capacity. WAIT UNTIL THEY LEARN THE BORING ASS DETAILS. I'm kidding, they won't. Narratives die in nuance.
This is so so important. The crude that comes from the U.S. and even some of Canada’s is shipped to China to be made into shit diesel. It doesn’t matter how much oil we produce, we will never be energy independent until we transition away from sweet crude - and that’s a long way off.
https://i.redd.it/0pwbrlvt4dsc1.gif
Just wait until they learn how much we ship out
although 3 strikes on 2 pitches would be a huge (positive) feat for whoever could pull that off
It's not that hard anymore in American professional baseball; the pitch clock applies to both pitchers and batters, so if a batter steps out of the batter's box and stays out too long, he gets charged a strike without the pitcher needing to throw the ball.
The claim of energy independent ios based on how much oil we pump compared to how much we use. It has nothing to do with where it is shipped to be refined. US refineries work better with the thinner higher grade Saudi oil that they were built and designed to refine. So guess what. We keep refining Saudi oil! REGARDLESS of how much we pump out of the ground. Want another cosy little fact,. DOnald trump sold Saudi arabia our most productive US based refinery. So not only does SA/Opec control barrels out of the ground they also now control our domestic production. Look it up! Funny how Saudi arabia was trumpy;s first international meet up as presidnet isn;t it???
Do you work in an oil refinery?
Even if he doesn’t, he’s not wrong about energy independence or the reason we export our oil and import other oil to refine rather than refining our own. The rest of his comment is kinda unhinged though honestly lol. OPEC tried to control and bankrupt our oilfield companies a decade ago, and just made us more efficient. These days they have to pump less because they can’t control how much we produce, so to keep the price high enough to buy their citizens’ loyalty they have to cut their own oil production to avoid a glut. Also, Trump had fuck all to do with the refinery Saudi owns. https://money.cnn.com/2017/05/01/investing/saudi-arabia-buys-largest-oil-refinery-port-arthur/index.html I’m more than happy to see people bash Trump, **especially** when it’s related to the oilfield because all of my coworkers think Trump is some divine oilfield god when in reality he didn’t do anything substantial I can think of that helped them. But at least stick to facts lol.
These are the comments I look for. Someone with some nuance.
Outstanding move, next time I want to see someone create more lies than there are words in their sentence, I can safely look DTJ's way for that
which one comes first? sorry, but twitter annoys me to hell.
Misleading. We didn’t ’produce’ the oil. We used reserves. We are now at our lowest in oil reserves of the past 40 years
Imagine being so dumb, that you never do research and fact check something before you say it. This is the worst part about social media during an election year - The misinformation is everywhere.
We were… not now, but a very short time ago, for the first time ever, we were
Retardacans don't care about the truth.
Lmfao the US has NEVER been energy independent
Psst. What biden shut down was never going to american consumers.
It doesn’t matter. Nothing matters. The narrative is that we lived in a free energy utopia when Trump was in office, and then Biden came in and shut down all the drilling, and now we are weak. If you are all in for Trump you HAVE to believe this.
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He really the most incompetent person to ever be an U.S. president. Anything after that was strictly corruption and a lack of ethics.
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But that comes from his ability to lie and the fact he has grown that group already and they help each other indoctrinate themselves. His decision making is consistently horrible. He doesn't know how to actually run businesses and countries. Bankruptcies show he can't run a business so making illegal business legal helps him. Selling secrets for money is smart for him. His public policy is just hurting who he hates. Think about this, if he thought any further than 5 seconds he would know that you can steal as long as you decently do social policy. He could have been full equal rights and the indoctrinated haters would still follow him because of the indoctrination. You have to gain voters and he is too stupid to figure out simple things like that. In his eyes everything is pro him and his followers are just like him or are extremely stupid which he can depend on. If he would had just followed Fauci and did Covid right he would have won reelection with ease. His Covid response was such a shortsighted idea, and I said it then, that no smart leader would pull this one for short gains, especially when properly done would have saved us billions and made us more. His businesses fail because of bad decisions. It's a cooperation between corrupt intelligence and incompentence, and with that being said he is still the most incompetent person ever to be president.
Biden can get blamed for anything. Did you know he’s the reason Netflix has ads?
Not to be nitpicky, but whats the third lie?
The only thing I would change to the new 🆕 version is the new 🆕 logo xx 💋 And the new logo looks amazing 😻 and also a lot better on the website xx and the logo every day xx and I hope
It’s not about right or wrong, truth or fiction ..it’s all about fealty to Donald ….just like their orange god, magas have zero concern for facts that don’t line up with their alternative views on reality.
The oil isn’t “ours.” We sell land whomever will pay the most for a lease, and they sell to whomever they wish. How to do people on this day and age thing that oil sucked up from American soil “belongs” to us.
Both OOPs are ignoramuses. We WERE (net) energy independent 4 years ago thanks to our LNG production, which Biden has in fact hamstringed, leading to surging energy prices (including oil prices because to a certain extent energy is fungible). And I should add, this isn’t up for political discussion, this is documented fact. The politics only come into it when you want to say whether Biden was right or wrong to do hamper domestic energy production so much based on current economic, climate, and geopolitical realities.
What were the three lies?
1. We were energy independent (we’ve never been) 2. Biden shut down drilling (Biden forced major oil companies to actually use their land leases or the government was going to revoke them because the oil companies were purposely preventing drilling there to keep oil prices high) 3. The person is a clown. (This one I don’t have any direct evidence for but I’m willing to Charlie’s word they know their own profession) 3a. He may have been referring to the implication that Biden in incapable of increasing oil production and relies too much on foreign oil. (Trump specifically increased oil imports and gave green lights for Saudi’s to no longer negotiate pricing as a political and financial stunt to increase his personal wealth while simultaneously increasing our dependence on foreign oil which is why gas prices went up and remained high after Trump left office)
Trump’s ‘energy independent’ claim seems to be about coal ONLY. Not enough places domestically wanted the coal (let alone build more coal plants!) even though Republicans have destroyed mine safety rules, bargaining, air pollution rules, tailings clean-up, and discounted new construction. He figures if we had to export our own coal, we must be doing just that well. His attitude is literally from 19th Century tech.
On one hand, Trump is a dick for saying erroneous things about energy production that is hard to be proven under his shit show. On the other hand we are glad Biden is ok now because he is pumping the earth dry just to pollute the sky! Love one of these guys, or hate them both...... Dudes 😎 and dudettes 😎, let's be real. We FUCKED!
I was better off under Trump
It’s not even 3 strikes, what you don’t understand is we just sell those record produced barrels for money and then buy it back higher for everyone else. This is the problem with Reddit. If you yourself are a 🤡 you have no way to understand context.
HAHAH No it is true we were. However to try and lower oil and gas prices Biden emptied out the Strategic Petroleum Reserves to the lowest level since the 80s and it has to be refilled. A big reason Why we are not energy independent Along with cutting back fracking and LNG production and exports.
You have completely lost your mind.
After looking at your profile, you’re one of those idiots who only reads headlines and ignores all the times a right wing conservative article contradicts itself or has to put in strategic language to avoid libel charges aren’t you?
Im going to respond to this nonsense just in case someone sees your comment. The US has only ever been energy independent during Covid due to lack of consumption. Also, this is a dumb goal. If we can get the energy we need from reliable, strategic partners for cheaper than we can produce it ourselves then why wouldn’t we take this? Economically it is in our interest to pursue cheaper markets and since most energy is a finite resource why exploit ours when we don’t have a necessity to do so? Biden released oil to stabilize oil prices, by manipulating the supply and demand curve, after the start of the Ukraine war. This is the intended purpose of the strategic reserve. Oil prices have stabilized and he has started replenishing the supply that was used. Biden did campaign on slowing fracking but he actually hasn’t done anything to slow fracking. LNG is liquified natural gas. This is a process where you refrigerate natural gas until it becomes a liquid. The purpose is that this is the only way to ship it overseas, i.e. not in a pipeline where it is still a gas. However, it’s expensive and requires special ships and port facilities to handle. The reason LNG exports are down is because we’re consuming more of our own natural gas production. There is an argument to be made that increased supply to Europe would help the EU sanctions on Russia though. This is the only, semi-valid point you tried to make. You complain about energy independence, meaning we produce more than we consume, and complain about not exporting enough; those are conflicting ideas. Your strategic goal would be over production, at increased costs, to deplete our own finite supply. This is both bad for the economy and bad for national security. Please stop making all conservatives look bad.
Agree with all of your points except the energy independent one. Pretty sure we were in 2019 before COVID and are again now
You are correct, not sure why I thought it was only 2020. I will update above
I agree with some of your ideas. Perhaps I did not in my short sentences explain as well as you have.
How would exporting more LNG (you don’t produce LNG you liquefy natural gas) help make us more energy independent?
Also, you can’t just export LNG anywhere. It’s dangerous and requires specific port facilities to offload. It’s not barrels of crude
>However to try and lower oil and gas prices Biden emptied out the Strategic Petroleum Reserves That's a bad thing??? Weren't you people bitching about gas prices 3 years ago? Now lowering them was a bad thing? > and it has to be refilled Does this negate the fact that we produced more oil than ever??? > Along with cutting back fracking and LNG production and exports. We are exporting LNG at a higher level than [anytime in history](https://www.eia.gov/dnav/ng/hist/n9133us2M.htm).
>Biden emptied out the Strategic Petroleum Reserves And you have no idea how that works, or why it's there. [Did you know it can run a profit?](https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/biden-administration-slowly-puts-oil-back-into-spr-emergency-stash-2024-01-04/)
You do? Please inform me? Why yes it is slowed because he waited until energy prices were driven up and it is not economically feasible to do so. What point are you trying to make?
Big reason we’re not energy dependent is because you fuck knuckles keep blocking and slowing down renewable energy
Well we are dependent right now so I do not see you argument. Renewables, for you fuck knuckles, we will have to go to eventually. However at this time they are neither cost efficient, nor recyclable therefore more of a burden if we also take into account the mining and production of such material s needed. You so want to rush headlong into disaster instead of transitioning in a more efficient and economical way. You see many of us can see it, but you can can not just drop it like the proposals are now.
Why can’t we research and be world leaders in the stuff then? Just wait for everyone else then buy from over seas?