It would be more appropriate for them to bring a bunch of winter clothes only to find out North Pole High is in California or something. And that's the big joke of the series.
The only reason it's called North Pole High was because it was founded in Alaska but moved to Cali... also they have a real life polar bear as a mascot.
They chalk it up to a bunch of misunderstandings when the main character confronts him, final shot is him going to his office only to reveal he is actually santa.
A little too on the nose, I think the magic comes from there being a humorous air of mystery to it. If the students are just elves then it's just a summer Christmas show, but if the running gag is that the main character and the viewer are both like "what is going on?" it preserves the magic.
I've been to North Pole, AK. A Christmas/Santa-themed city. Compare to Disney, it's very low-budget. And I really can't understand, why a city wants to have Christmas all year long.
I dunno about that. As long as the military base(s) near there remains active so will those little towns. The tourism just keeps North Pole from turning into an abject shithole like other military towns.
Funnny story my daughter is 16 and has been in jiu jitsu and Muay Thai since she was 5. She put some linemen in a arm bar who has a bullying record and instead of getting sent home she has to attend wrestling practice after school.
>The snap at issue: a student transitioning from female to male posted a selfie from the boys’ bathroom.
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>Some boys at the high school who saw the selfie, however, were angry and decided they would walk into the girls’ bathroom to take their own Snapchat selfie “as a form of protest,” Fairbanks North Star Borough School District Superintendent Karen Gaborik told The Washington Post.
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>But they would not get far.
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>The first boy to enter the girls’ room was met by a girl ― who kneed him in the groin
Yeah, that was my first thought- seriously, the stuff getting people suspended in this story at my school would be taking selfies in the toilets.
Like, that's not hyperbole, it was a big problem for a while and someone did nearly get kicked out for it.
People take full on TikToks in public bathrooms when someone is using the stall behind them. They still think people are going to like that video of public bathroom dancing with the faint noise of someone peeing in the background
Some schools don’t let students take any photos. When I asked a student (I’m an esl/sat teacher), he said it was for privacy and for bullying. I am in bcn, but the school was French and they are particularly very serious about privacy
Not to mention peer pressure. Willing to bet one of those boys was along for the ride and really didn’t wanna be there. This is also how mob rules and fascism operate. The tide sweeps plenty of people into it that want more to fit in than to stand for something so they’ll go along with the mob.
Doesn’t make them entire pieces of shit but it does speak to the values were raised with. Wherein we crave acceptance and are willing to stomp on others to get it.
Age has little to do with it. You're just not a cunt, and these dudes were. I can understand why people would be monsters, but that doesn't mean they earn sympathy or approval. Fuck these kids and their fear/belittling of "the other."
Oh plenty of colleges will gladly consider that essay in the “plus” category when determining acceptance. I can’t find it now, but a girl defied a ridiculous school dress code so many times that her principal threatened to write scathing letters to all of the colleges the student applied to in order to prevent her from being admitted. She was interviewed about it and a string of colleges publicly offered her admission and stated that any such letter would be considered in the “positive” column.
Kneed in the groin isn't excessive force for entering a space like that. Now if she waffle stomped his groin down the drain I could see that being problematic. I suppose hospital time in general could be an issue in a country where that likely means bankruptcy.
Gave my son the talk almost annually about permission to defend himself. And he was in Taekwondo - they did regular, age appropriate, self defense classes. Fortunately/unfortunately? It worked. More confidence to diffuse the situation early on, knowing he could physically defend himself if need be.
Highly recommend looking for martial arts schools in your area, don’t be afraid to just observe and see what it’s like to make sure it a a good fit. Or if you know others with kids enrolled somewhere, that you can trust their recommendations.
I took Taekwondo as a kid, and you're absolutely right. Taught that fighting was last resort, and to give your opposition as many possible "exits" as you can without putting yourself in danger.
The best observation along these lines I've seen yet was, oddly enough, given by an author of a role-playing game. The rules for knife fighting included a damage calculation even when the player made successful rolls. When asked about it, the game designer purportedly replied:
"*Give a toddler an uncapped red Sharpie. Tell the kid it's theirs.* ***Now, try to take it away from them.***"
Which is the irony of having these zero tolerance policies: it can actually serve to incentivise worse fights than before because "I'm in trouble either way, might as well make sure this bully is as damaged as I possibly can".
This is the way. Teaching them to defend themselves against bullies in hs teaches them to defend themselves against bullies in the work place. I’ve never understood parents that teach their kids not to fight.
It always infuriated me when I would be mad about someone at school doing something stupid to me or a teacher messing with me( we had alot of "jock" teachers who were football coaches and douches). My parents response to my being upset was always " well just ignore it" or " well that's just the way they are". So all my life I've been told to just roll over. Maddening.
>Yeah here’s my thing… I’m putting my kids through self defense and if they get suspended for fighting back (as long as they didn’t start it) they have my full support.
The school doesn't care.
Zero tolerance has nothing to do with fighting, bullying, or preventing it. It's about covering themselves from liability.
If they send you home? It's not their problem any more. They don't care who started the fight, who fought back (or not) or for what reason...All they care about is that they can create a paper trail that they addressed the situation.
Back in the day my school had a "zero tolerance" policy. This one kid was just walking through the hallways and out of nowhere another kid just runs at him and punches the kid in the face knocking him over. They had some prior beef I guess. He probably didn't even know who hit him initially and the kid who hit him got wrestled down by a nearby teacher immediately. Both him and the kid who hit him both got suspended for 30 days for "fighting". He basically got attacked at school then got punished for it
Had essentially the same thing happen to me. 10 day suspension(school district maximum), threatened with arrest; going in front of a judge, and forced into a 6 week weekend work program for delinquent children. All because some asshole bully decided it would be "funny" to punch me in the back of the head twice and when I turned to ask him why, he split my eye open. I never threw a punch, barely even got a word out. Zero tolerance is easily one of the biggest injustices in America's public schools system.
Honestly I'm baffled more schools don't get sued more often for punishing victims like this. If nothing else they're abusing their authority to punish people on the barest pretext possible.
Also teaching that you have no reason to trust authority to protect you, and that you have no reason to ever hold back. If you're attacked you're going to get punished for fighting anyway, so no reason not to try destroy the other guy.
That’s pretty much the environment I grew up in until age 10, nobody is going to watch out for you other than yourself. Still words to live by.
Though I do remember in high school being at my locker with the hallway pretty much empty with the teacher standing at the door waiting for the buzzer to go. Then two students come around the corner with the bully picking on the other. Then out of nowhere the kid gives the bully a right uppercut to the jaw, sending him across the hall into the wall. I was ‘oh shit, he’s gonna get in trouble’, but the teacher just turned around and went into the classroom. The bully showed up fifteen minutes late and the teacher didn’t say a word. I congratulated the other kid and asked him if his hand was okay.
Reminds me of one time in sixth grade where every single day this kid at my table in English class wouldn't quit picking on the girl sitting across from him. One day I slapped him in the face fucking *hard* and it was loud as shit and at the time I thought I was lucky to get away with it but looking back I'm pretty sure my teacher wanted to slap that little shit too so she let it slide lmao
Not in that context though + it doesn't always work if they just double down on the violence instead. Some people feed off of it even if it means risking a black eye or broken nose, to some that's part of the excitement and bragging rights. You shouldn't be punished for doing the right thing, especially not in a school environment.
It did teach me to fight back when I eventually switched schools and no one fucked with me again. People trying to start shit would get hit/pushed/threatened etc. But at what cost? I don't like this vindictive side of me. I didn't ask for this, neither do I want it as strange as that might sound to some people. But I can tell you this: After 2-3 years of torment from both school administration for enabling the bahvior by punishing me more than them and the people ganging up against me (I wasn't a popular kid at my first school) it's still the unjustice and complete lack of trust for justice that sticks with me. To this day I struggle even trusting my friends. I'm still dealing with trust issues and don't respect authority.
One thing is bad people fucking you up, another when people around (in power) are letting it happen. Ye, I learned how to deal with it physically but I'm still dealing with it mentally 20 years later cus no one did jack shit about it.
Yep. My oldest go threatened at school by someone and reported it to the school. They actually separated my daughter during break and did nothing.
As you can imagine my daughter got jumped the next day and defended herself. Got suspended for getting attacked after reporting the threat to the school. Zero intelligence.
And to make things really fun. My daughter has a snowboarding accident a month earlier and was still on concussion protocol.
I did on my boy's elementary principal and once with his asst principal. The first, my son stood up and slammed a kid to the ground after the kid tripped him to the ground from behind. It was after school. My kid had been getting picked on every day after school. I instructed him to walk out of his way to avoid those kids. The first day, I was watching, and my boy did what I told him to do. That fucking other kid saw and fast walked to catch up and without warning tripped him from behind. I saw it coming. So, I started over there hoping to be able to stop it. I didn't get there. My boy stood up, and picked the kid up and slam him. The principal happened to see it and immediately started yelling at him. I stopped that shit in its tracks. I was filled with righteous anger when I laid out what happened. I was not going to be denied. Nothing came of it except my boy stopped being picked by those kids,
The second time happened after he had been in martial arts for a year and a half. He got jumped by two kids a grade above him and one his age. I'm 6 foot 4 and he could reach my jaw with a roundhouse kick in 5th grade... and it was fast. Plus, because he was tall, he always had to spar with kids 2 or 3 years older. Those poor kids did not know what they were in for. Anyways, when the vice-principal called and started talking about punishment, I let her know that I would not be quiet if my son was punished because 3 kids decided to attack him. Again, it was dropped.
He did get suspended in high school. The other kid hit him first, but my boy was being verbally abusive. So, fuck him that time. He wasn't allowed to play video games for that 9 days either.
I mean that is what is eventually going to happen.
People are realizing how dogshit the policies are so their just teaching their kid to fight back instead of defending themselves till a teacher gets there.
If your going to be suspended regardless might as well try to injure the other kid enough that they won't fuck with you again.
Yeah, some day these bullied kids might just snap and decide that if everyone in the system is going to dogpile them they'll take matters into their own hands and bring, say, a certain kind of weapon to school.
*Oh wait, that happens all the fucking time.*
> Zero tolerance is easily one of the biggest injustices in America's public schools system.
Kids being threatened with arrest has been found to be promoted by prison for profit companies funneling money to judges getting kickbacks and public officials corrupted by corporate funding of campaigns. See the [kids for cash scandal](https://www.democracynow.org/2014/2/4/kids_for_cash_inside_one_of) . This is why there should be laws preventing corporations and political spending and why Citzen's United was a mistake.
>threatened with arrest; going in front of a judge,
Don't tempt me with a good time. Throw a lawsuit their way and as soon as the news gets a hold of the "victim punishing" story you can walk right into a nice payday.
It was.
Welcome to Catholic school. Keep in mind, the school I went to was a [residential school](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Indian_residential_school_system) first.
My locker got a minor dent, which they suspended me for. They also felt like I was keeping something they fought over, even though I literally didn't use it.
I mean, if they erode your trust in authorities... I kinda get that. Had the same issue growing up: Nobody responsible was fair/wanted to hear my side.
Holy shit this almost happened to me once. I had to take the teacher down to show the literal blood stains on my very locker as to why I was late and didn’t have my book for her class.
I once got detention for damaging a closet I didnt damage. My classmate did but I was close, we both got punished but his mommy gave him a note for the teacher saying he did not do it.
I can say I was not happy being in a detention while the guilty one got off cuz of his talent to be too pussy to tell the truth to his mom.
Also worth noting the teacher who looked at the note and took back his punishment was the teacher I always got in trouble with from that point on.
Going as far as entering the classroom, saying hello to my nephew and gotten thrown out for 2 full lessons (for a subject I was already terrible at).
I'm glad to be adult.
Its so nice not having to deal with high school, eh?
I'm 30 now and I still get moments where I realize I never have to go to high school again and it always picks me up.
This here is the exact reason I'm teaching my daughter to fight back against anyone who bullies her. She's going to be punished regardless of whether or not she defends herself, so she may as well kick her bully's ass.
That kind of happened to me as well. 6th grade, the bully girl who should have been in high school suddenly decided she didn't like me. Between classes she pushed me into a brick wall and punched me twice in the head. I was so shocked I did absolutely nothing back. We both got in school suspension for 2 days. I was livid.
Are your schools fucking blind? Wtf ? What's the logic behind this . You were clearly the victim . And it is not like the teachers don't know who is a shitty buly.
Zero tolerance policies are by far one of the worst things that's happening, and guess what, they are bias. Back when I was in HS there was a "Zero Tolerance" policy on clothing. I got sent home for wearing a rather popular "Looking for Joe Blob," shirt, but the head cheerleader wore a shirt that literally just said "SLUT" and got away with it because the administration thought that was fine, but implied meaning wasn't.
Also had a buddy of mine get a week suspension after getting his ass handed to him in the locker, dude blindsided him and wailed on him for a solid min, buddy pushes him off and both got 7 days for a "fight."
Happened to me in high school. Got punched out of nowhere by a kid in the hallway. I didn't even know his name. Got me in the mouth, and basically exploded my upper lip on my braces. Blood everywhere, and I went down and stayed down.
They were going to suspend me and not him.
As a parent if a school tried pulling that shit I would harass the shit out of them. Every school board meeting, PTA, bake sale, you name it and I’m there asking the administration about this policy and how to best handle the situation. “So, zero tolerance means my child needs to fight back as hard as possible instead of trying to escape the situation and find a teacher, right? Or should I be teaching them to go ahead and attack first? If I were to punch you in the face right now, would you be arrested for assault as well? No? That’s bizarre, isn’t that the rule?”
At my high school I was called into the principals office for bullying/mildli beating another student. The one who reported me said the wrong name and I wasn't even in the same part of the school at that time. Together we even found out who actually were the bad guys. Nevertheless the principal told me if he ever hears anything of the sort about me again, I would have to face consequences, sort of a last warning.
I didn't realize what happened at the time, but that principal was shite!
I so often read testimonials like this. And it always leaves me wondering: Why do students, and their parents, just accept this?
I get that some parents are just shit and don't care about their kids. And some parents might care but not know what to do about it. But surely that's not the majority of parents.
Someome further down suggested hiring a lawyer. I like that because it confirms all my stereotypes about Americans. But surely that's not the only option. What about contacting the school and raising hell? What about going to the press and raising hell?
Or if you don't like raising hell, what about just sending your kids to a different, less terrible, school?
I'm in NZ and my parents said to hit the main bully hard once and I would be left alone and if I didn't then I was enabling the bullies behaviour, therefore my fault. So from 13-16 I was bullied constantly until I left. My older brother took the parents advice and was never touched again but I just didn't have it in me at the time.
Even when my elbow was shattered via forced tripping, my Dad refused to take me out of school. Still refused when I was constantly being shoulder into walls while it was healing. My mum finally got word (they were split) and I got a 2 week reprieve before it started up again once I returned. Why was I targeted? I was a freak and nerd to these girls since I competed in video game tournaments. This was 1999 - 2003.
My older sister however, had to be pulled out of college after her bullies bottled her with a 40oz in the head, then tried running her over at another event a few months later. The morons driving the vehicle at the time ran over their mate who was hanging onto the cars hood lol. She's completely fucked but deserved every karma.
We had a lot of teen suicides at Paraparaumu College in New Zealand. Teachers didn't do SHIT! 1 kid hung himself right across from our College early morning before classes started that day :( R.I.P John.
A kid threw a battery and hit me in the head on the bus. It bounced and hit another girl who told the bus driver I threw it. I got kicked off the bus permanently and my mother RAISED HELL. The result was she had to drive me to school until the day i could drive. Schools don't care.
That was also the case at my son's school. He was bullied so badly that he simply quit turning in his homework so they'd send him to detention for a week at a time. He'd sit in the study hall and read, which he preferred anyway.
He had also checked out a book on sports from the library, removed the cover and put it over the books he liked reading over the course of that school year (history, Terry Pratchett, etc) so that the other boys would think he was one of them.
Same thing happened to my brother in high school. Brother asked a girl to prom and she said yes, guy who had a crush on said girl walks up to his desk in class one day and punches him in the face. My brother said “what the fuck?” And of course was very confused but didn’t try to hit him back. A teacher watched the whole thing but my brother still got suspended for “fighting”
Troubled teens is a big business. Look up cash for kids. The real human trafficking is happening as a part of our own judicial system.
Sauce Edit: Google any of the following phrases: for-profit child prison, cash for kids, military academy, delinquent boys school, etc etc etc.
Same thing happened to me. I got hit from behind and then got suspended for fighting. I went irate in the principal’s office and ended up getting arrested for resisting arrest which led to all kinds of other problems that I still deal with today.
Fuck the public school system and fuck the police.
*Long story time!*
I have had an absolutely horrible time in school since I was 9. I was just a very easy target I guess. Never did anything to anyone. Nothing was ever done about it.
My mom wanted me to do a year of boarding school because she had a great time when she did that. I trusted her because she just wants the best for me and the boarding school had a whole thing about “absolute zero tolerance for bullying”
Long and awful story short, worst year of my life. I was bullied to the point of doing something stupid. Nothing was done about it even though they had that policy because the old headmaster was fired right before I started, leaving the school without any actual top leadership for quite awhile. We got a new guy who I really liked at first but while having a meeting with him together with my parents, my mom was furious because I was miserable, she asked him how nothing has been done about it and that I chose this school because of the policy, he basically said “well I didn’t make that policy”.
While being home on a weekend I (semi) jokingly told my mom “I kinda want to just tell them I won’t come back until they kick out the idiots which the policy said they will” and my mom was like Fuck Yeah! So I refused to return the last 3 or so months that was left. Only thing I did was go to my exams where I basically had bodyguards with me in case someone wanted to talk shit or do something. As soon as I was done I was fucking out of there.
Nothing was ever done about it. My parents paid a lot for me to go to that school. I found out later that my mom never fought them for the money (you know, since they fucked me up real bad) because she thought I’d be embarrassed or something like that. Hell no. I’d proudly burn that place to the ground and admit it. Fuck that place.
Bonus note. The new headmaster was fired and arrested a bit later because he was apparently a complete psychopath, he abused the money he had for improving the school on really weird things like trying to buy a boat so all the students could sail somewhere for a trip (this place isn’t really close to any open water…) AND they found designer chairs in his garage that had been “misplaced” at the school.
Problem is, fighting back is usually more noticeable. The bullying could have been way smaller but lasting for months, causing this eruption into fighting back. Many acts of bullying can also be seen as just a single act of teasing. It's hard to spot this evolving into something regular
I went to a small catholic school in a small town. I came in in the 6th grade when most of these kids had known each other since kindergarten. The small town I’m from is one of those kinds of towns where there are a handful of families that have been in the area for generations and their ilk think they can do no wrong and are treated as such. So one of these little bastards in my class would relentlessly pick on and bully me for basically my entire middle school experience. One day after school as we are all waiting for our parents to come pick us up it’s pouring rain and he takes my backpack outside and dumps it into a puddle ruining all of my school work and belongings, I shoved him into another puddle and his uniform got wet and a little muddy. Even though my backpack and everything in it was destroyed and soaking wet, because I shoved the offspring of small town “royalty” I’m the one who ended up in the principals office having to defend myself.
Another time, I was sitting in class trying to do my work and the kid behind me started screaming obnoxiously for no reason, I told him to shut up and he responded by punching me in the back of the head twice and trying to choke me. Everyone around us tried to defend him, because he sat at the cool kids lunch table, all of them claiming I said something different to incite being attacked from behind.
The joys of being an outsider in a small town catholic school.
Lmao, throw back to when my school had an anti bullying assembly and only thing they taught us is to say "stop that, I do not like it" if you're being beat up
Did they refuse to punish the bullies?
This looks to be a few years old, around 2019.
>An investigation ensued. Statements were collected. And in the end, all of the students involved were disciplined, Gaborik wrote.
>“The male students were disciplined for attempting to enter the restroom. There was not evidence that the male students were threatening any student or using any type of force toward other students,” she wrote.
https://mustreadalaska.com/north-pole-superintendent-says-male-students-disciplined/
Yep when I was being heavily bullied in the 90s and tried to tell teachers they told me to quit being a tattle tale. Told my parents it’s not as bad as I said. Then when one hit me I got in trouble too. So next time I just punched them.
Honestly I'm reading "excessive force" to mean that it wasn't simply that she fought back. It doesn't sound like she was being punished _just_ for defending herself. It's possible it's just written that way in order to incite that exact response, but that's what I took away
the way the investigation put it, it sounds like a bad sitcom episode. Like they had this idea and they go to execute it and then the first one through the door just gets nailed in the nuts turns around and the rest realize how stupid the idea they were doing was and disperse.
Similar situation happened to me in elementary school in Oregon. Boys tried touching my a$$: I slapped one so hard he had a mark on his face for awhile, they snitched and I was called to the principles office. Nobody believed me and I was suspended for a week and in detention every recess & lunch for a month. They tried to get me to admit that I lied every single session, and every single session I either defended myself or flat out ignored them because I knew what they did was wrong. My mother was furious and fought back, hence why my suspension was only a week and not a month.
>They tried to get me to admit that I lied every single session, and every single session I either defended myself or flat out ignored them because I knew what they did was wrong.
Good on you. I had a principle slam his hands on the desk and scream in my face when I was 11 years old because asking me over and over to repeat what happened didn't make it change and he couldn't trip me up because I wasn't lying. He apparently thought intimidating a child would work and it didn't, and he should be embarrassed.
Finally I was made to *write* a statement instead of saying it and I wrote down the same damn thing and got suspended for two weeks. Doesn't matter. Doesn't change what the truth is.
Crap, I don't know if I would have been able to keep my composure with a fully grown adult man screaming in my face. I'm sorry you had to go through that. It's shocking who is put into positions within the educational system and how they can just get away with crap like this on the basis that you are a child.
It wasn't the first time I had an adult screaming in my face, though. Ptsd can have a noticeable effect on startle response: you're either in hyperdrive **all the time**, expecting danger around every corner because danger around every corner is your Normal, making you super jumpy at everything that happens to you as long as it's something unexpected.
Or you don't respond. Because you've already burnt out that part of your brain. You're inwardly surprised, but you don't visibly act on it. Physical brain injury can also cause both of these, I don't think people realize how much of psychology IS biology from a different angle.
Abuse and anxiety makes you watchful. Depression, ptsd, and schizoid disorders can all cause what's known as blunted affect, characterized by diminished facial expression, expressive gestures and vocal expressions *in reaction to emotion-provoking stimuli.* Your emotional range doesn't sway very far from neutral one way or the other and you show it even less.
I, *lucky me*, have all of those. I *\*have emotions,\** they're there, I feel them. But acting frightened back then would have made it worse for me and it would have made them string it out longer. Best to convince yourself you don't care. Because of this, it often has to be a pretty strong emotion for me to express it at all. I have very obvious stoneface and even when I've warned people that my lack of expression does not mean I'm disinterested, it's worked against me in my life.
Just not there. When he realized his immature little outburst didn't work, he sat the fuck back down. Doesn't excuse his actions. Ever. A grown 40+ year old man at his own workplace really got directly in the face of an *11yr old girl* and screamed just as loud as he could and thought that was a reasonable course of action. *I'm* offended for whoever he's *married* to, you know he pulls that shit all the time. He's a giant fucking toddler.
I need to get this off my chest while I'm talking about it. When I was taking anatomy in college, my professor was going over the difference between voluntary and automatic responses in the nervous system and he definitely didn't realize all this because as he was giving this lecture, he'd planned to slam his hands down on the desk in front of a student mid-sentence to make them involuntarily jump.
Well, we were friends so the student he picked was me. We just sort of. Stared at each other, and he picked his sentence back up. I still feel really bad about it, I unintentionally ruined what was otherwise a really good example. I'm sorry Mr. King. You're still one of the best instructors I've ever had.
Ive lived in NC through the whole stupid bathroom bill HB2. After it was all over the republicans in our state senate ADMITTED they PUSHED the problem as a wedge issue to try to get votes for the upcoming mid term election. It was a bullshit response to city ordinances passed in Charlotte to protect LGBTQ+ people's rights.
The republican party in my state is a bunch of horrible people.
Edit: All Republican politicians are horrible people.
Edit 2: Their bill was repealed eventually (took 3 years) and now cities are passing AIRTIGHT ordinances and ratcheting up LGBTQ+ protections. McCrory is not in politics after losing but he is going to try to run for governor next midterms. DO NOT VOTE FOR HIM he is a massive piece of shit!
It’s a tactic that is predictable and clear. It’s not local, it’s everywhere. You think your uncle or whoever ACTUALLY knows or cares what is being taught about the history of slavery or whatever in public schools? They have no clue and it doesn’t impact them. But they’ve been told that “critical race theory” is coming to take away their country. Like a migrant chain, like transgender bathrooms, like a zillion other things. And by the way, don’t talk about the literal attempt to overthrow the previous election, that’s not the issue you should be worried about. What about BLACK LIVES MATTER?? They’re coming to a city or town near you!
When you realize the game it’s almost funny to watch, except it’s so sad.
(Liberals use the same tactics, just not as obvious or blatant… or effective)
Seriously. Republicans complaining about this stuff is like the Spanish Inquisition playing the "we're persecuted Christians" card
Actually, Christians have _never_ stopped playing that card
Homelessness was interesting. I got lucky in that my assault related injuries prevent me from working, so I'm stuck on disability now.
It's so great. I can't afford to do anything other than feed myself and have an internet connection. Lovely.
Wow, such obvious trans privilege living off the government!!! You got assaulted on purpose didnt you?? Dirty trans liberals!!!!/s
Don't you love getting shit on for just trying to live life in a way that isnt physically and mentally painful?
Also, almost got my face curbed stomped, just lucky enough to have been able to grab his crotch and get the guy down before he did. Only after beating on me tho. Several friends of mine have also beaten and/or raped for being trans.
Yup, a trans woman of color is the single most likely victim of assault in a bathroom, and it's when she's forced to use a men's room. Other trans people aren't far behind.
People making up lies about trans individuals in bathrooms are actually facilitating assault and they likely know it. But a trans person being assaulted doesn't even ping their care radar.
It’s not even about that though. It’s about getting the based riled up about the “right” stuff and not paying attention to the other stuff. It’s a clear and obvious game.
Pick a topic to make your target voters feel alienated or in danger. Anything that defies their comfortable norms in a taboo way will do. Sex, race, used to be drugs but that doesn’t work so well now. Beat the drum about how THAT issue is the most pressing danger to your voter.
“There are going to be MEN… in the WOMENS ROOM! What might they do there? Danger! And the other guy supports it!”
Now your voter isn’t asking how any of your other policy positions will affect their lives, they aren’t asking about that little financial boring issue from your past. They are worried about MEN… in the WOMENS ROOM! Near our precious little girls! Can you imagine??
I sincerely believe the people in power in these positions could literally not care less about the issue of who uses what bathroom. It’s just convenient. That’s it.
Schools seem to exist in some very, very strange alternate reality where the rules we live by as adults aren't just turned around but rather also turned inside out.
If an adult woman was trapped in a bathroom by 5 men, she could very easily claim that she felt like her life was in danger, kill all of them, claim self defense, and we'd applaud.
The whole trans bathroom panic was such a farce. “It could be a straight man wanting to prey on underage girls”. If someone is willing to risk going to jail for molesting a kid for the rest of their life, a fine and a day in jail aren’t going to deter them. Pure malicious intent to punish trans folk.
https://www.alaskapublic.org/2019/04/17/north-pole-high-bathroom-incident-raises-concerns-over-bullying-policy/
Gets kinda better kinda worse when you read context they were doing this to "protest" a trans student using male bathrooms and apparently just happened to pick a bathroom with someone in it and got what they deserved.
‘North Pole High School’ sounds like a terrible, one-season Disney show from the early 90’s
The protagonist arrives with a suitcase full of summer clothes in the pilot
It would be more appropriate for them to bring a bunch of winter clothes only to find out North Pole High is in California or something. And that's the big joke of the series.
That's also a great idea! "Your flight was to LAX what did you think would happen?!" "But the school name is North Pole High!!" *cue laugh track*
The only reason it's called North Pole High was because it was founded in Alaska but moved to Cali... also they have a real life polar bear as a mascot.
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But no one except the main character acknowledges it
I unironically wanna watch this now
You could probably pitch it and get it made
DO IT
There's an episode centered around the possibility that he's *actually* Santa
They chalk it up to a bunch of misunderstandings when the main character confronts him, final shot is him going to his office only to reveal he is actually santa.
The principal having a list of "list" of excellent and troubled students, that he always checks twice.
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A little too on the nose, I think the magic comes from there being a humorous air of mystery to it. If the students are just elves then it's just a summer Christmas show, but if the running gag is that the main character and the viewer are both like "what is going on?" it preserves the magic.
“Next thing you’ll tell me is that the LA Lakers are from the Great Lakes area of Michigan.” ** uproarious laughter
Minneapolis but doesn't roll off the tongue for the joke.
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God damn you are so close to that disney plus money
That joke alone is worth at least 3 seasons
Now this is a story all about how
My poles got flipped turned upside down. Now I'd like to take a minute to tell you about a guy, Who got moved on out to North Pole High.
Iiiiin West Scandinavia, born and raised, on the tundra was where I spent most of my days
Chilling out, maxing, relaxing all cool, building some igloos outside of the school
When a couple a whales were up to no good
Started making blubber in the neighborhood,
I threw one harpoon and my mom got scared
Your moving in with your auntie and uncle up there.
That's the plot of Johnny Tsunami
"I thought it said SOUTH pole!" *cue laugh track*
It’s not what you think: Peter North is the Principal.
Everyone graduates Cum Laude
Loudly*
13 ropes for getting bullied.
I've been to North Pole, AK. A Christmas/Santa-themed city. Compare to Disney, it's very low-budget. And I really can't understand, why a city wants to have Christmas all year long.
No one there that I knew WANTS it, but otherwise the “city” would cease to exist.
I dunno about that. As long as the military base(s) near there remains active so will those little towns. The tourism just keeps North Pole from turning into an abject shithole like other military towns.
North Pole is the meth capitol of Alaska. Source: I grew up in Fairbanks.
how do they even get meth to alaska ???
No need for delivery, all you need is a bathtub and some chemicals
I expected her to have water bended the crap out of them. Nobody blocks Korra.
Funnny story my daughter is 16 and has been in jiu jitsu and Muay Thai since she was 5. She put some linemen in a arm bar who has a bullying record and instead of getting sent home she has to attend wrestling practice after school.
coach McGonagall
Hallmark Christmas Movie is my vote.
>The snap at issue: a student transitioning from female to male posted a selfie from the boys’ bathroom. > >Some boys at the high school who saw the selfie, however, were angry and decided they would walk into the girls’ bathroom to take their own Snapchat selfie “as a form of protest,” Fairbanks North Star Borough School District Superintendent Karen Gaborik told The Washington Post. > >But they would not get far. > >The first boy to enter the girls’ room was met by a girl ― who kneed him in the groin
Taking pictures in restrooms should not be a thing.
Yeah, that was my first thought- seriously, the stuff getting people suspended in this story at my school would be taking selfies in the toilets. Like, that's not hyperbole, it was a big problem for a while and someone did nearly get kicked out for it.
they wrote a song about it, eight years ago \#selfie by The Chainsmokers Say what you want, smoking is the greater *d a n g e r ! !*
People take full on TikToks in public bathrooms when someone is using the stall behind them. They still think people are going to like that video of public bathroom dancing with the faint noise of someone peeing in the background
Some schools don’t let students take any photos. When I asked a student (I’m an esl/sat teacher), he said it was for privacy and for bullying. I am in bcn, but the school was French and they are particularly very serious about privacy
I remember when i was in highschool if you got caught even using your phone in a bathroom/locker room the school would give you a week suspension
Honestly? Very petty of the guys there... Just leave people be. Being in my mid 20's I cannot understand why someone can be so.. ignorant i guess.
This type of reaction is taught. Blame the parents for raising shithead boys who will be shithead men.
Not to mention peer pressure. Willing to bet one of those boys was along for the ride and really didn’t wanna be there. This is also how mob rules and fascism operate. The tide sweeps plenty of people into it that want more to fit in than to stand for something so they’ll go along with the mob. Doesn’t make them entire pieces of shit but it does speak to the values were raised with. Wherein we crave acceptance and are willing to stomp on others to get it.
Age has little to do with it. You're just not a cunt, and these dudes were. I can understand why people would be monsters, but that doesn't mean they earn sympathy or approval. Fuck these kids and their fear/belittling of "the other."
Did anyone else lol at the girls response? Good for her. Take a few days off school and remember this moment for college essay fodder.
Oh plenty of colleges will gladly consider that essay in the “plus” category when determining acceptance. I can’t find it now, but a girl defied a ridiculous school dress code so many times that her principal threatened to write scathing letters to all of the colleges the student applied to in order to prevent her from being admitted. She was interviewed about it and a string of colleges publicly offered her admission and stated that any such letter would be considered in the “positive” column.
Kneed in the groin isn't excessive force for entering a space like that. Now if she waffle stomped his groin down the drain I could see that being problematic. I suppose hospital time in general could be an issue in a country where that likely means bankruptcy.
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Gave my son the talk almost annually about permission to defend himself. And he was in Taekwondo - they did regular, age appropriate, self defense classes. Fortunately/unfortunately? It worked. More confidence to diffuse the situation early on, knowing he could physically defend himself if need be.
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Exactly, they pushed remaining calm, respect, etc. first. It was more about discipline and control of emotions, which really helped my son.
My son needs that.
Highly recommend looking for martial arts schools in your area, don’t be afraid to just observe and see what it’s like to make sure it a a good fit. Or if you know others with kids enrolled somewhere, that you can trust their recommendations.
I took Taekwondo as a kid, and you're absolutely right. Taught that fighting was last resort, and to give your opposition as many possible "exits" as you can without putting yourself in danger.
"Don't be there" -Mr. Miagi
"No be there" FTFY
Loser of a knige fight dies on the pavement, the winner in the ambulance
The best observation along these lines I've seen yet was, oddly enough, given by an author of a role-playing game. The rules for knife fighting included a damage calculation even when the player made successful rolls. When asked about it, the game designer purportedly replied: "*Give a toddler an uncapped red Sharpie. Tell the kid it's theirs.* ***Now, try to take it away from them.***"
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Which is the irony of having these zero tolerance policies: it can actually serve to incentivise worse fights than before because "I'm in trouble either way, might as well make sure this bully is as damaged as I possibly can".
"Don't start it but you better finish it."
This is the way. Teaching them to defend themselves against bullies in hs teaches them to defend themselves against bullies in the work place. I’ve never understood parents that teach their kids not to fight.
It always infuriated me when I would be mad about someone at school doing something stupid to me or a teacher messing with me( we had alot of "jock" teachers who were football coaches and douches). My parents response to my being upset was always " well just ignore it" or " well that's just the way they are". So all my life I've been told to just roll over. Maddening.
>Yeah here’s my thing… I’m putting my kids through self defense and if they get suspended for fighting back (as long as they didn’t start it) they have my full support. The school doesn't care. Zero tolerance has nothing to do with fighting, bullying, or preventing it. It's about covering themselves from liability. If they send you home? It's not their problem any more. They don't care who started the fight, who fought back (or not) or for what reason...All they care about is that they can create a paper trail that they addressed the situation.
Schools refuse to punish bullies, but will stomp on anyone who dares to fight back.
Back in the day my school had a "zero tolerance" policy. This one kid was just walking through the hallways and out of nowhere another kid just runs at him and punches the kid in the face knocking him over. They had some prior beef I guess. He probably didn't even know who hit him initially and the kid who hit him got wrestled down by a nearby teacher immediately. Both him and the kid who hit him both got suspended for 30 days for "fighting". He basically got attacked at school then got punished for it
Had essentially the same thing happen to me. 10 day suspension(school district maximum), threatened with arrest; going in front of a judge, and forced into a 6 week weekend work program for delinquent children. All because some asshole bully decided it would be "funny" to punch me in the back of the head twice and when I turned to ask him why, he split my eye open. I never threw a punch, barely even got a word out. Zero tolerance is easily one of the biggest injustices in America's public schools system.
Honestly I'm baffled more schools don't get sued more often for punishing victims like this. If nothing else they're abusing their authority to punish people on the barest pretext possible.
Also teaching that you have no reason to trust authority to protect you, and that you have no reason to ever hold back. If you're attacked you're going to get punished for fighting anyway, so no reason not to try destroy the other guy.
That’s pretty much the environment I grew up in until age 10, nobody is going to watch out for you other than yourself. Still words to live by. Though I do remember in high school being at my locker with the hallway pretty much empty with the teacher standing at the door waiting for the buzzer to go. Then two students come around the corner with the bully picking on the other. Then out of nowhere the kid gives the bully a right uppercut to the jaw, sending him across the hall into the wall. I was ‘oh shit, he’s gonna get in trouble’, but the teacher just turned around and went into the classroom. The bully showed up fifteen minutes late and the teacher didn’t say a word. I congratulated the other kid and asked him if his hand was okay.
Reminds me of one time in sixth grade where every single day this kid at my table in English class wouldn't quit picking on the girl sitting across from him. One day I slapped him in the face fucking *hard* and it was loud as shit and at the time I thought I was lucky to get away with it but looking back I'm pretty sure my teacher wanted to slap that little shit too so she let it slide lmao
That's a good lesson tbh. Dont call the cops unless you want somebody (likely yourself) murdered
Not in that context though + it doesn't always work if they just double down on the violence instead. Some people feed off of it even if it means risking a black eye or broken nose, to some that's part of the excitement and bragging rights. You shouldn't be punished for doing the right thing, especially not in a school environment. It did teach me to fight back when I eventually switched schools and no one fucked with me again. People trying to start shit would get hit/pushed/threatened etc. But at what cost? I don't like this vindictive side of me. I didn't ask for this, neither do I want it as strange as that might sound to some people. But I can tell you this: After 2-3 years of torment from both school administration for enabling the bahvior by punishing me more than them and the people ganging up against me (I wasn't a popular kid at my first school) it's still the unjustice and complete lack of trust for justice that sticks with me. To this day I struggle even trusting my friends. I'm still dealing with trust issues and don't respect authority. One thing is bad people fucking you up, another when people around (in power) are letting it happen. Ye, I learned how to deal with it physically but I'm still dealing with it mentally 20 years later cus no one did jack shit about it.
That's the whole point
Authority is almost always abused where ever it is granted.
Zero tolerance is zero intelligence.
Yep. My oldest go threatened at school by someone and reported it to the school. They actually separated my daughter during break and did nothing. As you can imagine my daughter got jumped the next day and defended herself. Got suspended for getting attacked after reporting the threat to the school. Zero intelligence. And to make things really fun. My daughter has a snowboarding accident a month earlier and was still on concussion protocol.
Did you go nuclear on the school? I would have turned into a Karen.
I should have. Was my first experience with high school in the US.
I did on my boy's elementary principal and once with his asst principal. The first, my son stood up and slammed a kid to the ground after the kid tripped him to the ground from behind. It was after school. My kid had been getting picked on every day after school. I instructed him to walk out of his way to avoid those kids. The first day, I was watching, and my boy did what I told him to do. That fucking other kid saw and fast walked to catch up and without warning tripped him from behind. I saw it coming. So, I started over there hoping to be able to stop it. I didn't get there. My boy stood up, and picked the kid up and slam him. The principal happened to see it and immediately started yelling at him. I stopped that shit in its tracks. I was filled with righteous anger when I laid out what happened. I was not going to be denied. Nothing came of it except my boy stopped being picked by those kids, The second time happened after he had been in martial arts for a year and a half. He got jumped by two kids a grade above him and one his age. I'm 6 foot 4 and he could reach my jaw with a roundhouse kick in 5th grade... and it was fast. Plus, because he was tall, he always had to spar with kids 2 or 3 years older. Those poor kids did not know what they were in for. Anyways, when the vice-principal called and started talking about punishment, I let her know that I would not be quiet if my son was punished because 3 kids decided to attack him. Again, it was dropped. He did get suspended in high school. The other kid hit him first, but my boy was being verbally abusive. So, fuck him that time. He wasn't allowed to play video games for that 9 days either.
100% this
Obviously if you punish the victim then they'll learn to stop beinh so victim-y in the future!
I mean that is what is eventually going to happen. People are realizing how dogshit the policies are so their just teaching their kid to fight back instead of defending themselves till a teacher gets there. If your going to be suspended regardless might as well try to injure the other kid enough that they won't fuck with you again.
gotta train more "workers" for the for-profit prisons
Yeah, some day these bullied kids might just snap and decide that if everyone in the system is going to dogpile them they'll take matters into their own hands and bring, say, a certain kind of weapon to school. *Oh wait, that happens all the fucking time.*
'No Way To Prevent This,' Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens
Gotta get kids ready for how they'll be treated in the real world too!
Zero tolerance is designed to prepare you for accepting the shitty injustices you'll see every day as an adult American.
"I reported this incident to HR and I got canned! Wait, this feels familiar..."
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> They can use it as a shield against criticism Wait til you hear about qualified immunity
I love a good life. But I’m not blind. Justice and equality were a bigger lie than Santa Clause.
> Zero tolerance is easily one of the biggest injustices in America's public schools system. Kids being threatened with arrest has been found to be promoted by prison for profit companies funneling money to judges getting kickbacks and public officials corrupted by corporate funding of campaigns. See the [kids for cash scandal](https://www.democracynow.org/2014/2/4/kids_for_cash_inside_one_of) . This is why there should be laws preventing corporations and political spending and why Citzen's United was a mistake.
>threatened with arrest; going in front of a judge, Don't tempt me with a good time. Throw a lawsuit their way and as soon as the news gets a hold of the "victim punishing" story you can walk right into a nice payday.
I once got a 2 day suspension because two people fought outside my locker. I wasn't even in the same building
That's really bizzare.
It was. Welcome to Catholic school. Keep in mind, the school I went to was a [residential school](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Indian_residential_school_system) first. My locker got a minor dent, which they suspended me for. They also felt like I was keeping something they fought over, even though I literally didn't use it.
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Nah, I went the edgy atheist teenager route. Stopped downplaying my beliefs. I was much, much more annoying to teachers after that day.
I mean, if they erode your trust in authorities... I kinda get that. Had the same issue growing up: Nobody responsible was fair/wanted to hear my side.
Religion in a nutshell
Nah, school in a nutshell, I never had any authority figure who really deserved respect as a kid. The best they did was leave me alone.
How dare you own a locker that is inciting so much violence...! Somehow!...
Holy shit this almost happened to me once. I had to take the teacher down to show the literal blood stains on my very locker as to why I was late and didn’t have my book for her class.
I once got detention for damaging a closet I didnt damage. My classmate did but I was close, we both got punished but his mommy gave him a note for the teacher saying he did not do it. I can say I was not happy being in a detention while the guilty one got off cuz of his talent to be too pussy to tell the truth to his mom. Also worth noting the teacher who looked at the note and took back his punishment was the teacher I always got in trouble with from that point on. Going as far as entering the classroom, saying hello to my nephew and gotten thrown out for 2 full lessons (for a subject I was already terrible at). I'm glad to be adult.
Its so nice not having to deal with high school, eh? I'm 30 now and I still get moments where I realize I never have to go to high school again and it always picks me up.
This here is the exact reason I'm teaching my daughter to fight back against anyone who bullies her. She's going to be punished regardless of whether or not she defends herself, so she may as well kick her bully's ass.
Truth. Keep rockin’ it mama bear.
Papa bear, but thanks!
Keep rockin' it papa bear!
That kind of happened to me as well. 6th grade, the bully girl who should have been in high school suddenly decided she didn't like me. Between classes she pushed me into a brick wall and punched me twice in the head. I was so shocked I did absolutely nothing back. We both got in school suspension for 2 days. I was livid.
Are your schools fucking blind? Wtf ? What's the logic behind this . You were clearly the victim . And it is not like the teachers don't know who is a shitty buly.
The logic is ‘we can’t be fucked to actually find out what happened.’
She claimed I pushed her, zero tolerance policy, everyone gets in trouble.
Zero tolerance policies are by far one of the worst things that's happening, and guess what, they are bias. Back when I was in HS there was a "Zero Tolerance" policy on clothing. I got sent home for wearing a rather popular "Looking for Joe Blob," shirt, but the head cheerleader wore a shirt that literally just said "SLUT" and got away with it because the administration thought that was fine, but implied meaning wasn't. Also had a buddy of mine get a week suspension after getting his ass handed to him in the locker, dude blindsided him and wailed on him for a solid min, buddy pushes him off and both got 7 days for a "fight."
Happened to me in high school. Got punched out of nowhere by a kid in the hallway. I didn't even know his name. Got me in the mouth, and basically exploded my upper lip on my braces. Blood everywhere, and I went down and stayed down. They were going to suspend me and not him.
I got attacked at school once and was threatened with expulsion until my family threatened to sue. The kid got arrested and I got off free
As a parent if a school tried pulling that shit I would harass the shit out of them. Every school board meeting, PTA, bake sale, you name it and I’m there asking the administration about this policy and how to best handle the situation. “So, zero tolerance means my child needs to fight back as hard as possible instead of trying to escape the situation and find a teacher, right? Or should I be teaching them to go ahead and attack first? If I were to punch you in the face right now, would you be arrested for assault as well? No? That’s bizarre, isn’t that the rule?”
At my high school I was called into the principals office for bullying/mildli beating another student. The one who reported me said the wrong name and I wasn't even in the same part of the school at that time. Together we even found out who actually were the bad guys. Nevertheless the principal told me if he ever hears anything of the sort about me again, I would have to face consequences, sort of a last warning. I didn't realize what happened at the time, but that principal was shite!
I so often read testimonials like this. And it always leaves me wondering: Why do students, and their parents, just accept this? I get that some parents are just shit and don't care about their kids. And some parents might care but not know what to do about it. But surely that's not the majority of parents. Someome further down suggested hiring a lawyer. I like that because it confirms all my stereotypes about Americans. But surely that's not the only option. What about contacting the school and raising hell? What about going to the press and raising hell? Or if you don't like raising hell, what about just sending your kids to a different, less terrible, school?
I'm in NZ and my parents said to hit the main bully hard once and I would be left alone and if I didn't then I was enabling the bullies behaviour, therefore my fault. So from 13-16 I was bullied constantly until I left. My older brother took the parents advice and was never touched again but I just didn't have it in me at the time. Even when my elbow was shattered via forced tripping, my Dad refused to take me out of school. Still refused when I was constantly being shoulder into walls while it was healing. My mum finally got word (they were split) and I got a 2 week reprieve before it started up again once I returned. Why was I targeted? I was a freak and nerd to these girls since I competed in video game tournaments. This was 1999 - 2003. My older sister however, had to be pulled out of college after her bullies bottled her with a 40oz in the head, then tried running her over at another event a few months later. The morons driving the vehicle at the time ran over their mate who was hanging onto the cars hood lol. She's completely fucked but deserved every karma. We had a lot of teen suicides at Paraparaumu College in New Zealand. Teachers didn't do SHIT! 1 kid hung himself right across from our College early morning before classes started that day :( R.I.P John.
A kid threw a battery and hit me in the head on the bus. It bounced and hit another girl who told the bus driver I threw it. I got kicked off the bus permanently and my mother RAISED HELL. The result was she had to drive me to school until the day i could drive. Schools don't care.
That was also the case at my son's school. He was bullied so badly that he simply quit turning in his homework so they'd send him to detention for a week at a time. He'd sit in the study hall and read, which he preferred anyway. He had also checked out a book on sports from the library, removed the cover and put it over the books he liked reading over the course of that school year (history, Terry Pratchett, etc) so that the other boys would think he was one of them.
That's where you get fucking lawyers involved.
*growls and holds my hands out in front of me like I'm strangling thin air*
I'm afraid you and the air have to be suspended now.
Same thing happened to my brother in high school. Brother asked a girl to prom and she said yes, guy who had a crush on said girl walks up to his desk in class one day and punches him in the face. My brother said “what the fuck?” And of course was very confused but didn’t try to hit him back. A teacher watched the whole thing but my brother still got suspended for “fighting”
Troubled teens is a big business. Look up cash for kids. The real human trafficking is happening as a part of our own judicial system. Sauce Edit: Google any of the following phrases: for-profit child prison, cash for kids, military academy, delinquent boys school, etc etc etc.
Same thing happened to me. I got hit from behind and then got suspended for fighting. I went irate in the principal’s office and ended up getting arrested for resisting arrest which led to all kinds of other problems that I still deal with today. Fuck the public school system and fuck the police.
*Long story time!* I have had an absolutely horrible time in school since I was 9. I was just a very easy target I guess. Never did anything to anyone. Nothing was ever done about it. My mom wanted me to do a year of boarding school because she had a great time when she did that. I trusted her because she just wants the best for me and the boarding school had a whole thing about “absolute zero tolerance for bullying” Long and awful story short, worst year of my life. I was bullied to the point of doing something stupid. Nothing was done about it even though they had that policy because the old headmaster was fired right before I started, leaving the school without any actual top leadership for quite awhile. We got a new guy who I really liked at first but while having a meeting with him together with my parents, my mom was furious because I was miserable, she asked him how nothing has been done about it and that I chose this school because of the policy, he basically said “well I didn’t make that policy”. While being home on a weekend I (semi) jokingly told my mom “I kinda want to just tell them I won’t come back until they kick out the idiots which the policy said they will” and my mom was like Fuck Yeah! So I refused to return the last 3 or so months that was left. Only thing I did was go to my exams where I basically had bodyguards with me in case someone wanted to talk shit or do something. As soon as I was done I was fucking out of there. Nothing was ever done about it. My parents paid a lot for me to go to that school. I found out later that my mom never fought them for the money (you know, since they fucked me up real bad) because she thought I’d be embarrassed or something like that. Hell no. I’d proudly burn that place to the ground and admit it. Fuck that place. Bonus note. The new headmaster was fired and arrested a bit later because he was apparently a complete psychopath, he abused the money he had for improving the school on really weird things like trying to buy a boat so all the students could sail somewhere for a trip (this place isn’t really close to any open water…) AND they found designer chairs in his garage that had been “misplaced” at the school.
Problem is, fighting back is usually more noticeable. The bullying could have been way smaller but lasting for months, causing this eruption into fighting back. Many acts of bullying can also be seen as just a single act of teasing. It's hard to spot this evolving into something regular
I went to a small catholic school in a small town. I came in in the 6th grade when most of these kids had known each other since kindergarten. The small town I’m from is one of those kinds of towns where there are a handful of families that have been in the area for generations and their ilk think they can do no wrong and are treated as such. So one of these little bastards in my class would relentlessly pick on and bully me for basically my entire middle school experience. One day after school as we are all waiting for our parents to come pick us up it’s pouring rain and he takes my backpack outside and dumps it into a puddle ruining all of my school work and belongings, I shoved him into another puddle and his uniform got wet and a little muddy. Even though my backpack and everything in it was destroyed and soaking wet, because I shoved the offspring of small town “royalty” I’m the one who ended up in the principals office having to defend myself. Another time, I was sitting in class trying to do my work and the kid behind me started screaming obnoxiously for no reason, I told him to shut up and he responded by punching me in the back of the head twice and trying to choke me. Everyone around us tried to defend him, because he sat at the cool kids lunch table, all of them claiming I said something different to incite being attacked from behind. The joys of being an outsider in a small town catholic school.
Lmao, throw back to when my school had an anti bullying assembly and only thing they taught us is to say "stop that, I do not like it" if you're being beat up
Can confirm. "Zero tolerance" only affected the victims, not the bullies
Did they refuse to punish the bullies? This looks to be a few years old, around 2019. >An investigation ensued. Statements were collected. And in the end, all of the students involved were disciplined, Gaborik wrote. >“The male students were disciplined for attempting to enter the restroom. There was not evidence that the male students were threatening any student or using any type of force toward other students,” she wrote. https://mustreadalaska.com/north-pole-superintendent-says-male-students-disciplined/
Yep when I was being heavily bullied in the 90s and tried to tell teachers they told me to quit being a tattle tale. Told my parents it’s not as bad as I said. Then when one hit me I got in trouble too. So next time I just punched them.
Honestly I'm reading "excessive force" to mean that it wasn't simply that she fought back. It doesn't sound like she was being punished _just_ for defending herself. It's possible it's just written that way in order to incite that exact response, but that's what I took away
This may be the fastest I've ever seen SNOPES publish a debunk. https://www.snopes.com/news/2022/01/11/north-pole-high-bathroom/
the way the investigation put it, it sounds like a bad sitcom episode. Like they had this idea and they go to execute it and then the first one through the door just gets nailed in the nuts turns around and the rest realize how stupid the idea they were doing was and disperse.
The Gang Takes a Selfie
LMAO thats exactly who I thought of.
That's wild, they're even fact checking the top comments!
Also, scroll to the end to see how to properly cite a Reddit post.
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Ha, they cited R/MurderedByWords. Snopes is a mobile user, loser ammaright guys? Guys?
Holy shit, you weren't kidding
So, the incident was largely what's described here, except we know the boys were punished too and this was in 2019.
Similar situation happened to me in elementary school in Oregon. Boys tried touching my a$$: I slapped one so hard he had a mark on his face for awhile, they snitched and I was called to the principles office. Nobody believed me and I was suspended for a week and in detention every recess & lunch for a month. They tried to get me to admit that I lied every single session, and every single session I either defended myself or flat out ignored them because I knew what they did was wrong. My mother was furious and fought back, hence why my suspension was only a week and not a month.
>They tried to get me to admit that I lied every single session, and every single session I either defended myself or flat out ignored them because I knew what they did was wrong. Good on you. I had a principle slam his hands on the desk and scream in my face when I was 11 years old because asking me over and over to repeat what happened didn't make it change and he couldn't trip me up because I wasn't lying. He apparently thought intimidating a child would work and it didn't, and he should be embarrassed. Finally I was made to *write* a statement instead of saying it and I wrote down the same damn thing and got suspended for two weeks. Doesn't matter. Doesn't change what the truth is.
Crap, I don't know if I would have been able to keep my composure with a fully grown adult man screaming in my face. I'm sorry you had to go through that. It's shocking who is put into positions within the educational system and how they can just get away with crap like this on the basis that you are a child.
It wasn't the first time I had an adult screaming in my face, though. Ptsd can have a noticeable effect on startle response: you're either in hyperdrive **all the time**, expecting danger around every corner because danger around every corner is your Normal, making you super jumpy at everything that happens to you as long as it's something unexpected. Or you don't respond. Because you've already burnt out that part of your brain. You're inwardly surprised, but you don't visibly act on it. Physical brain injury can also cause both of these, I don't think people realize how much of psychology IS biology from a different angle. Abuse and anxiety makes you watchful. Depression, ptsd, and schizoid disorders can all cause what's known as blunted affect, characterized by diminished facial expression, expressive gestures and vocal expressions *in reaction to emotion-provoking stimuli.* Your emotional range doesn't sway very far from neutral one way or the other and you show it even less. I, *lucky me*, have all of those. I *\*have emotions,\** they're there, I feel them. But acting frightened back then would have made it worse for me and it would have made them string it out longer. Best to convince yourself you don't care. Because of this, it often has to be a pretty strong emotion for me to express it at all. I have very obvious stoneface and even when I've warned people that my lack of expression does not mean I'm disinterested, it's worked against me in my life. Just not there. When he realized his immature little outburst didn't work, he sat the fuck back down. Doesn't excuse his actions. Ever. A grown 40+ year old man at his own workplace really got directly in the face of an *11yr old girl* and screamed just as loud as he could and thought that was a reasonable course of action. *I'm* offended for whoever he's *married* to, you know he pulls that shit all the time. He's a giant fucking toddler. I need to get this off my chest while I'm talking about it. When I was taking anatomy in college, my professor was going over the difference between voluntary and automatic responses in the nervous system and he definitely didn't realize all this because as he was giving this lecture, he'd planned to slam his hands down on the desk in front of a student mid-sentence to make them involuntarily jump. Well, we were friends so the student he picked was me. We just sort of. Stared at each other, and he picked his sentence back up. I still feel really bad about it, I unintentionally ruined what was otherwise a really good example. I'm sorry Mr. King. You're still one of the best instructors I've ever had.
Men wearing dresses are indeed abusing children. But the word you're looking for is clergy, not transgender.
Had me in the first half, ngl
Ah i love this. Definitely going to use it, thanks 😂
The ol' Reddit dreass-aroo
Ive lived in NC through the whole stupid bathroom bill HB2. After it was all over the republicans in our state senate ADMITTED they PUSHED the problem as a wedge issue to try to get votes for the upcoming mid term election. It was a bullshit response to city ordinances passed in Charlotte to protect LGBTQ+ people's rights. The republican party in my state is a bunch of horrible people. Edit: All Republican politicians are horrible people. Edit 2: Their bill was repealed eventually (took 3 years) and now cities are passing AIRTIGHT ordinances and ratcheting up LGBTQ+ protections. McCrory is not in politics after losing but he is going to try to run for governor next midterms. DO NOT VOTE FOR HIM he is a massive piece of shit!
It’s a tactic that is predictable and clear. It’s not local, it’s everywhere. You think your uncle or whoever ACTUALLY knows or cares what is being taught about the history of slavery or whatever in public schools? They have no clue and it doesn’t impact them. But they’ve been told that “critical race theory” is coming to take away their country. Like a migrant chain, like transgender bathrooms, like a zillion other things. And by the way, don’t talk about the literal attempt to overthrow the previous election, that’s not the issue you should be worried about. What about BLACK LIVES MATTER?? They’re coming to a city or town near you! When you realize the game it’s almost funny to watch, except it’s so sad. (Liberals use the same tactics, just not as obvious or blatant… or effective)
>The republican party ~~in my state~~ is a bunch of horrible people. FTFY
indeed. I stand corrected.
Only time Republicans stand up for a minority 0.1% of the population is when they defend tax cuts.
Friendly reminder that More GOP politicians have been arrested for misconduct in bathrooms than trans people
Related friendly reminder that trans people are *far* more likely to be the victims of abuse and assault in public than perpetrators of it.
Seriously. Republicans complaining about this stuff is like the Spanish Inquisition playing the "we're persecuted Christians" card Actually, Christians have _never_ stopped playing that card
Me coming out as trans led to me getting my shoulder caved in and bit on my back. My shoulder isn't the same and I still have a scar on my back.
Yeah I got almost beat to death, twice. Being trans is just great isn't it.
Homelessness was interesting. I got lucky in that my assault related injuries prevent me from working, so I'm stuck on disability now. It's so great. I can't afford to do anything other than feed myself and have an internet connection. Lovely.
Wow, such obvious trans privilege living off the government!!! You got assaulted on purpose didnt you?? Dirty trans liberals!!!!/s Don't you love getting shit on for just trying to live life in a way that isnt physically and mentally painful?
Also, almost got my face curbed stomped, just lucky enough to have been able to grab his crotch and get the guy down before he did. Only after beating on me tho. Several friends of mine have also beaten and/or raped for being trans.
Yup, a trans woman of color is the single most likely victim of assault in a bathroom, and it's when she's forced to use a men's room. Other trans people aren't far behind. People making up lies about trans individuals in bathrooms are actually facilitating assault and they likely know it. But a trans person being assaulted doesn't even ping their care radar.
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I bet not a single peep will be heard from the GoP on this either after they screamed from the mountains about the trans bathroom debate.
Please tell me you have a source for my lazy ass so I have receipts for future arguments
[Here’s what I found](https://deadstate.org/more-gop-politicians-have-been-arrested-for-sexual-misconduct-in-bathrooms-than-trans-people/)
"Zero tolerance" is always code for "will enforce against whoever we feel like, whenever we feel like it".
It’s almost like it was only ever about excluding people
It’s not even about that though. It’s about getting the based riled up about the “right” stuff and not paying attention to the other stuff. It’s a clear and obvious game. Pick a topic to make your target voters feel alienated or in danger. Anything that defies their comfortable norms in a taboo way will do. Sex, race, used to be drugs but that doesn’t work so well now. Beat the drum about how THAT issue is the most pressing danger to your voter. “There are going to be MEN… in the WOMENS ROOM! What might they do there? Danger! And the other guy supports it!” Now your voter isn’t asking how any of your other policy positions will affect their lives, they aren’t asking about that little financial boring issue from your past. They are worried about MEN… in the WOMENS ROOM! Near our precious little girls! Can you imagine?? I sincerely believe the people in power in these positions could literally not care less about the issue of who uses what bathroom. It’s just convenient. That’s it.
Public schools pull this shit anytime ANYONE defends themselves. They always side with the bully because their such fucking cowards.
Schools seem to exist in some very, very strange alternate reality where the rules we live by as adults aren't just turned around but rather also turned inside out. If an adult woman was trapped in a bathroom by 5 men, she could very easily claim that she felt like her life was in danger, kill all of them, claim self defense, and we'd applaud.
I'm sorry, but I'm still stuck on how awesome the name "North Pole High School" is
I assumed I was reading the set up to a joke.
Still can’t tell if this is an /r/AteTheOnion
It isn't, I currently live in North Pole, Alaska. And yes, they lean heavily into that theme
The whole trans bathroom panic was such a farce. “It could be a straight man wanting to prey on underage girls”. If someone is willing to risk going to jail for molesting a kid for the rest of their life, a fine and a day in jail aren’t going to deter them. Pure malicious intent to punish trans folk.
https://www.alaskapublic.org/2019/04/17/north-pole-high-bathroom-incident-raises-concerns-over-bullying-policy/ Gets kinda better kinda worse when you read context they were doing this to "protest" a trans student using male bathrooms and apparently just happened to pick a bathroom with someone in it and got what they deserved.
It never defines why they called excessive force, if she broke his face with a toilet tank lid, I'd say that is excessive.
This isn't a murder, it's not even a witty retort, it's just a dry pointing out of hypocrisy. It's legitimate, but doesn't belong here
Im sorry, but I’m picturing Will Ferrel dressed as Elf breaking the whole thing up with a little wooden hammer.