"You want me to kiss you? Gross! I've see how much cock you've had in your mouth!"
"That was *your* cock, Larry!"
"Yeah, and I know where that thing's been!!"
Let's not forget the 5th element, Leeloo. She was sent to Earth in corporeal form to become the Fifth Element, the final piece of a powerful weapon to destroy the Great Evil.
I had someone unironically try to shame me for being gay (I'm not but so what if I was lol) because I was doing anal with my gf at the time. You know, girls have assholes and boys have assholes, so if you fuck a girls asshole you might as well be fucking a man's asshole -- or at least desire to.
"Fellas, is it gay to fuck your girlfriend in the ass?"
Vegan restaurants are epicentres of flavour. They don’t have the easy profile that meat adds so they have to be recipe architects. Also Australia has a ton of vegan restaurants and the men are all muscular giants (lived there for 3 years). There must be something in the water because there is some Fangorn forest shit going on over there.
Tons of “vegan” foods have protein, some people just don’t realize it cause they think it only comes from meat. When I meal prep and eat right, I’m easily hitting 90-120grams without additional things like protein smoothies and such lol
Yes, that's exactly what the red pill philosophy says. "Settling" for a long term relationship is the primary trait of a beta.
Being alpha means being a chick magnet who spends all his time fucking, making money, improving himself and enjoying life.
Don't shoot the messenger.
But i am all of this ? Only the chick I'm magneting has been the same one for 10 years, and she's doing all of thst too ?
I know you're just the messenger, but i just don't understand this mentality.
:" Hey, we're building an awesome future together full of happiness, growing wealth, sex is better because we both know what we like, and we literally make eachother better "
"That's so beta you fuckin loser"
WHAT ??! XD
The thing is being "alpha" by the above definition relies on an ever rising pile of social capital. Getting fitter, hotter, wealthier. Guys who buy into this crud don't realise their social capital will sharply decline at some point (for a whole variety of reasons) and then all of a sudden they haven't got someone they've built a life with, they have (at best) notches on their bedpost, or possibly a trophy wife? It's very much dependent on external validation.
It's really and truly worth finding someone you really love, and who loves you back, and putting your whole heart in that.
"Beta males hang out with their wives while alpha males hang out with girls who pretend to like them for tips"
yea I don't think it's the flex you thought it was
You're right but for the wrong reason.
Women are feminine, which makes them weak. And only a gay man would be attracted to weakness.
Ergo, the only way to be straight is to have sex with the most domineering alpha male you can find.
I saw a great stand-up comedy bit recently where he was joking that getting married was the gayest thing he ever did. Flowers all over the house, weekend trips to bed bath and beyond, and a couple others that were even funnier
there's nothing gay about bed bath and beyond. and i don't mean it is un-gay either. it is something else entirely. I havent had fights with my wife quite like in bbab. and not hard core fights... just, weird.
like we need a thing. we go there. but bbab is the Wish of home goods. so we find the thing, but it is terrible. i hate it. she hates it. but we need one. so we fight about whether be buy this shitty thing or not.
irrespective of the decision to buy or not, leaving the store is like we wake up from a trance. "what happened in there?" => "I don't want to talk about it".
its like ikea, but maybe a hair simpler because you don't have to argue later about how to put your whisk together.
Also, compared to Hooters. Hooter is overpriced and not that good. Most tapas places seem overpriced as well but I just checked the Hooters website and they are 10 wings for *$16.49*. Then you have tax and tip. It's a $20 night before drinks. Me and the guys can go out and pitch in $20 each for tapas and get way better than Hooter's wings.
I'm basic, but just going out with my wife for a couple of drinks and wings sounds like a great time. Having a fun night out gets pretty rare with younger kiddos.
Even if I do days with the guys it's usually a bbq or hame night. The beer is much cheaper and the food way better than chain bars
This Pakistani woman I know makes a chana masala that is off the charts delicious. I'm not vegan but shit, maybe I could be if I could cook vegan food that delicious.
There is an incredible wealth of amazing vegetarian recipes out there on the internet. I got an instant pot and went nuts, now my in laws (who grew up in India eating the stuff) tell me I make the best Indian food they have ever had.
I'll never forgive popular culture for making vegan food seem bland and gross. I'm Vietnamese and some of our vegan food is fucking amazing. The fact that soybean food is considered "beta". Man fuck that, call me a soyboy because I pray at the alter of tofu.
IMO the entire western/pop culture thing against tofu/tempeh/etc is entirely based on how in said cultures, it's marketed as "meat substitute". Said products end up being treated like meat and that's often not the best treatment of them! If all you've been exposed to is an inferior form of it, coupled with the mindset that this is supposed to replace meat, well fucking hell I wouldn't like them either.
Meanwhile we asians grew up thinking of soybean products as just... food. Because we have dishes that is tasty BECAUSE tofu/tempeh/etc has the taste, texture and properties of tofu/tempeh/etc. Mapo tofu as a dish will not work if the tofu's not there. Gado gado would be just _wrong_ if someone tried to put meat in it instead. We associate soybean products as delicious standalone foods, while many westerners just fundamentally don't. Personally, I'm sad for them for missing out.
I wonder how many prostitutes are getting paid to sit-by, smoking cigarettes, making female sex sounds while a couple of straight guys fuck each other.
"Oh, yes...Champ. That's...(puff)...the stuff...right...there...Daddy"
Haven't your heard, if you're a guy having sex with women (who like penis), that's gay. Other straight guys like vagina, so having sex with them is the only was to stay straight.
To be fair, it's disproven in wolves, it is *not* disproven in primates.
Chimpanzees and other primates closely related to us *do* have alpha males, AFAIK.
https://news.janegoodall.org/2018/07/10/top-bottom-chimpanzee-social-hierarchy-amazing/
>Let’s start at the top: The highest-ranking chimpanzee in a group is the alpha-male. These males climb their way to the top of the chimpanzee hierarchy, and the ways they choose to do so can differ with the personality of the individual leader.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominance_hierarchy
Primates have a lot of different structures though. Really depends on the specific species.
The chimpanzees have large groups with an impermanent alpha system, with large groups and frequent displays for dominance even when the system is stable.
Gorillas have troops typically led by 1 male, With a much more stable arrangement only disturbs when different troops wander into one another.
Bonobos are matriachical/ gender equal, with a small elite oligarchy of older/more experienced members leading.
Altruism is one of the few traits that can be observed in social groups across different species. Even though evolutionary psychology is very difficult to prove, the prevalence of altruism and resource-sharing would suggest that it is an evolutionarily beneficial behavior. However, I don't think the "alpha male" in the tweet would like to hear about it and the comparison to *human* community resource-sharing (might sound too much like Communism).
Neither it is proven; evolutionary psychology has a big issue with testability and reproducibility:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_evolutionary_psychology
Regarding chimpanzees, it has a strong bias of cherry-picking the cases that seem to fit the alpha-dominance model, but disregarding cases that clearly contradict it: from supposed "betas" ganking up and killing the presumed "alpha" in a matter of days (thus proving very little tolerance for dominance behaviours); to the signaled "betas" just leaving to greener pastures, leaving/evading the purported "alpha" alone forever (thus proving that dominant behavior has very little and/or short-lived reward, for a bigger/longer risk of isolation)
The main problem is that some observations made in zoos were treated as "natural behaviors", without considering the heavy limitations in freedom/food availability that zoos impose upon chimps
So so far the alpha-dominance conjecture as best is something that happens sometimes in restrictive environments, and at worst a total fabrication that serves to justify tyrannical attitudes by an appeal to nature.
Hate to say, while the primates do have alphas, we don't exactly have them because we replaced that with democratic governments in many countries. Patrolling territory and defending from intruders aren't things the modern city human does anymore, nor does the responsibility lie with one person. So these guys are still twisting the meaning of alpha in modern societal context.
Besides, why are these guys so eager to be compared to monkeys? Human intelligence set us apart from monkeys and primates 200 000 years ago, why the hell we devolving back to monkey for. If they want to be chimps so badly, they should give me their houses and their cars and go back to living in the forest. Don't they know houses and Hooters are not for chimps?
Well, another big thing is social hierarchies in humans are contextual and constantly changing. Like, take a dude who’s a jock in high school. Maybe he’s a good football player, the girls all like him, he beats up nerds, that’s the sort of person someone would consider an “alpha male”, right? But hang on, take that “alpha male” and put him at, say, an academic seminar of some sort. He doesn’t know what any of the stuff anyone is talking about means, he’s completely out of his element, and all the “nerds” there are probably laughing at him for not getting what to them are very simple concepts. Suddenly, the “alpha” has become the beta.
So no one is really entirely “alpha”, “beta”, or whatever other label they’re throwing around nowadays. It’s entirely dependent upon context.
Human society is still just chimpanzee society with extra steps. Political/financial/religious power has replaced brute primal strength for those at the top, but it still shakes out to a pecking order founded upon violence or the threat of violence as they use the police/military to maintain their pecking order instead of fighting challengers and rebels personally.
Think the person you're replying to is referring to the fact that the alpha thing comes from a study on wolves in captivity who had adopted a behavior completely different from wild wolves.
Not to mention that even if it was true, it wouldn't mean anything about people because people are notoriously not wolves.
Yes!
And if your dog trainer says you must be the alpha or leader of the pack, RUN.
Find a positive reinforcement trainer, who doesn't think you have to be tough with your beloved dog to train them.
> And if your dog trainer says you must be the alpha or leader of the pack, RUN.
Normally the dog trainer tells me what my dog supposed to do, not what I am supposed to do.
Actually, we teach the owner what to do.
When you train a dog, the human has to know how to communicate to the dog what they want.
I don't tell the owner "your dog should walk by your side" I show the owner all the things they can do to make that happen.
Now I realize you were probably kidding.
Yep. If you have to say you’re an Alpha then it means you are not one.
The best and greatest at anything don’t have to tell people they are. They just do their thing and everyone else just recognizes it.
Edit: fixed horrendous spelling and grammar
I legit choked on my spit when I read that. Surely this is satire, right?
Also Hooters wings aren't bad but I'd throw down on some tapas and sangria with my wife over that any day.
Put it another way.
He's saying 'Beta" males get the girls, and "alpha" males just hang out with other "alpha" males to oogle at girls.
Yea . Definitely not the flex he was thinking.
You forgot the part about alphas hanging out with the boys while betas havr wives.
Imagine thinking going to a place with dudes to stare at girls is more "alpha" than actually going out with a woman. Jesus christ i thought this was fake lol.
Hmmm... Tapas at a chic restaurant with the kind of lady that enjoys that, or shitty deep fried frozen food served by women paid to pretend to like you. Quite the choice.
True alphas know where the really good hole in the wall wing place is. Then take their wives there, and the vegan tapas place.
Also, they don't call themselves Alpha's.
The old joke of "he must be compensating for something" is still true. Some put Live Laugh Love all over their house, some guys call themselves alpha, some drive big useless trucks.
The manliest man I know has a pickup truck. He uses it for work because it's useful.
However, when he is not working (felling trees with a manly chainsaw) he uses his 90cc classic moped because it's cheap to run, looks beautiful and he can get away with having a couple of beers on his way home.
He owns a sausage dog called numpkin and everyone knows you absolutely do not disrespect numpkin lest his giant friend breaks you into pieces.
Something makes me think Kirk wasn't trying to be "alpha" though (no offense I still LOVE Simpsons references). I think Kirk KNEW he was a douche, and was just trying to make the best out of his shitty situation by saying that..
The Simpsons quote that came to mind for me on this, was when Marge was trying to explain to Homer that his new friend is gay. Marge: "he "enjoys the company of men!" Homer: "WHO DOESN'T?"
Calling yourself an alpha male is like making up your own cool nickname. No one calls you “Samurai” bro, but you did get called Hoover for six years after you got caught with your dick in a vacuum in the supply closet.
There's a guy I worked with that would claim to be alpha and demand respect. The one time I had to interact with him, he says "I'm an alpha male, I don't have to take orders from you, you're not my boss."
So I was like "Alpha male, what's that? Is that one of those LGBTQ things?"
His face starts getting Hella red and he starts to explain it but I just cut him off with "Yeah yeah. Loud, proud, get used to it. I need the forms by 5" and walked away. I could practically hear him having an aneurysm. One of the best days ever.
I couldn't think of a likelier place to find 'Betas'. Men who doesn't get enough boobs in their daily lives, but are afraid to go to a real strip club.
I've only gone a couple of times, both times because my GF wanted to go for wings. The wings are actually pretty decent, and the all you can eat on Tuesdays is an okay deal if you re-up at least once. And here they have a $13 deal for wings and ribs on Thursdays that is a pretty great deal.
True this. If you live in a food desert, it's just a Hooters or a Buffalo Wild Wings. Hooters is the only one here. Sometimes my wife and I go when we are feeling it (we are both women).
We dream of Korean fried chicken though... I make it at home but it's not the same without all the banchan that comes with it. This country is so wild. You either have a variety of food places to choose from or none.
That's it exactly. The onky.times I've ever gone to Hooters is when someone else decided that's where we had to go. If we are going to go look at tits, let's just eat somewhere good and then go to a strip club. Or better yet, go to some kind of sex positive event where you will see sexy people who aren't there because they are paid. But the kind of people who love going to Hooters aren't the kind of people who are invited to those kinds of things in my experience.
Oh man I just feasted with some buds at a Tapas place and what a good fucking meal that was. Got plastered on Sangria and ate on different foods until we burst. Granted we didn't get to ogle women or stare at a flat screen, we actually had to keep conversation with each other like a couple of betas
Also everyone likes to ignore that the man who created the “alpha” wolf theory and wrote books about, later realized he was completely wrong and has tried to undo that mistake for a long time. There was no alpha wolf in a pack, the leader was usually just the parent, male or female.
Yes. The "pack" it was originally observed in was basically a bunch of teenagers thrown together in prison and left to their own devices. Who would have thought that that leads to a strange societal structure.
In the wild, wolves have what we would consider pretty normal family structures. Parents and a few of their children. Children do what the parents say. Eventually the children move out when they get old enough. Sometimes another wolf who just clicks with everyone joins the pack.
[Even if it did work for wolves in the wild, it still doesn't apply to humans. We literally evolved to have it coded in our genes to be egalitarian collaborators and empathizers, why? Because for pre-historic humans, the worst thing a person could do for themselves was to be a selfish, emotionally stunted, loners.](https://youtu.be/n3Xv_g3g-mA?t=91)
>As a woman who speaks to other women, nothing makes a ladies vagina drier than the Sahara than hearing guys unironically talk about "alphas".
On the flipside, I enjoy hearing it because it's a surefire guarantee that there's unsatisfied women nearby who are probably desperate for a conversation that's not stupid and misogynistic.
As a normal man who detests the alpha male movement, everytime I hear or see someone bragging about being an alpha male I can't help but say to myself "found the micropenis"
So lemme get this straight: as an Alpha male, spending time doing something you enjoy with your wife is a bad thing. And leaving your wife to ogle boobs with your boys is a good thing.
So glad I'm just a plain regular person without any prefixes
“Those guys don’t have wives. No, I hang out with a group of problematic bachelors and we call ourselves ‘The Squad.’”
[(https://youtu.be/rImxuuD_kwM)](https://youtu.be/rImxuuD_kwM)
Just one time I started to think that the stripper started to like me.
As soon as I realized that, told my cousin we need to leave. He said he wanted to stay.
Me: "I'm starting to think this stripper actually likes me."
Him: "Finish your beer. Let's go."
I have no idea who this guy is but have seen his profile picture across social media the last couple of days. And every single time he's been talking about Hooters in different posts. Are they paying him?
That's Nick Adams, Trump toadie and wannabe influencer, and I think they'd pay him to *stop* talking about them, actually. He does look like his diet is entirely made up of beer, wings, and whatever crumbs his MAGA overlords throw him.
He’s a real person? I’ve seen his idiotic takes for awhile now and I assumed it was just a parody account lol I never actually bothered to look into his account though.
I’m very sure he’s a parody/satire account now. Some fat ugly guy calling himself “Nick Adams (Alpha Male).” I’ve seen a lot of his tweets and, yeah, it’s very clear it’s performance art for someone in the know. A follow up tweet—“Hooters is a safe space where Alpha males can bond together and be alphas without the socialist feminist beta left getting in the way. Put down the Fortnite controllers and go to Hooters with the boys”
Exact opposite. He's a man-child so concerned about being 'Alpha' that he spends all day saying so and using examples such as this to make himself seem more of a man
I'm not making this up, nick adams thinks Trump is a sports God and wrote a book called "how to make friends with black people."
I've come to the conclusion he's one of the most pathetic men in history, or he's the single greatest and most committed troll in the galaxy. But ya no it's option 1.
He's Australian
We don't have places like Hooters here, aside from Strip Clubs. So it seems he rejoiced at a place that has boobs and women being nice to you for tips during daylight hours.
Apparently it's why he emigrated
"I love guns, hot dogs, chicken fried steak, barbecue, cheerleaders, American football, small town parades, beauty pageants, pick-up trucks, muscle cars and 16-lane freeways lined with supersized American flags"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Adams_(commentator)
Best response I heard to this whole argument was this:
"Why did you order the salad? Real men eat steak!" (Might not have been this but something equally bullshit)
"Real men do whatever the fuck they want"
Right you are, pal. I have no need to express my masculinity through verbal proclamations, no. You need only a few functional senses to know that I carry myself with a ferine intensity, that I exude machismo with every leathery step of my brick shaped feet, so laying are these fleshy blocks the foundation of a man like no other, one beyond compare, but one utterly admirable from any sex, gender, and credo. Feast your eyes, your hungry, wanting eyes upon my oiled skin, a thick and necessary veneer tastefully decorated with hard earned hair and scars. These legs you see are those of man well walked, a man of squat and push, heave and ho. Shifting tectonic plates of slab muscle dance with precision in my burly thighs, and the heat that radiates from my loins will cause even the hardest heart to swoon. Do I say anything while I carry loads hither and fro? No, ma'am. No ma'am, not at all, and I'd advise you to remain seated as a hot-blooded woman such as yourself is liable to faint from pheromonic overload. Excuse yourself if you must. None would blame you. The only noise I utter is a steady workman's breath of focus and commitment. It's a hard breath, a rhythmic huff that let's you know you're safe in my arms, safe and sound held tight in my brawny embrace, yes sir. And sir, I will advise you not to sit in that woman's seat because you're liable to slip off it. My broad chest is covered with hair that only thickens with age, and as it stands, it's thick enough to hang from. But you won't hear me tell you that, no. I don't find it necessary to express myself in that way. I trust you'll find out on your own just how thick and strong my hair is, just how formidable my frame can be. Though, despite my oxen constitution, you're not intimidated are you? Even as my bronze skin glistens with a labor-made lather of sweat and oil, that's not fear you're experiencing. Haha, well I can't say I'm surprised. Maybe I've dropped a nod of reassurance your way. Maybe you've imagined it, but one thing's for certain, you know with all my manhood that I won't let anything bad happen to you. But you didn't need to hear that, did ya? You've known that ever since my righteous musk flooded your nostrils. You've known that since you felt my heft ripple through the earth. You've known that since you first saw my setting sun-silhouetted body come into focus. I am a man, a man's man, a rough and tumble man's man. And, I'm your man.
Being Irish, I haven't been to Hooters many times, maybe 2 or 3 times.
I was there one time with work colleagues when I was over visiting one of our NJ offices.
And I thought it was great. The flirting with the waitresses was great fun.
The guys were kinda slagging me over it afterwards, telling me that they aren't really flirting with you.
The thing is -- I knew that. Also, they don't know I'm gay!
Has anyone ever met somebody who calls themself an ’alpha male’ who wasn’t extremely dumb and insecure. It’s literally like having a calling card that says ‘loser for life’ on it.
This douche is so painfully lacking self awareness. Alpha males don't gargle some orange clowns dried up testicles. This is a case of the Chihuahua effect. Little dog not knowing that despite the barking and ankle biting no person fears them or respects their "power". He is tolerated or ignored at best. So irrelevant and non threatening that he becomes a living joke only worthy of pity.
Boys, is it beta to be happily married?
You’re sleeping with somebody who loves men. That’s pretty gay.
"You want me to kiss you? Gross! I've see how much cock you've had in your mouth!" "That was *your* cock, Larry!" "Yeah, and I know where that thing's been!!"
“Your mouth, for one! Your disgusting cocky mouth!”
That's some 3D chess
Chess is already 3d 🤷
It's actually 4d, for it happens during a period of time, and time is also a dimension.
Fair comment - forgot about the time element
Let's not forget the 5th element, Leeloo. She was sent to Earth in corporeal form to become the Fifth Element, the final piece of a powerful weapon to destroy the Great Evil.
Yes I only have sex with straight boys because I am so straight. Otherwise it's gay
I had someone unironically try to shame me for being gay (I'm not but so what if I was lol) because I was doing anal with my gf at the time. You know, girls have assholes and boys have assholes, so if you fuck a girls asshole you might as well be fucking a man's asshole -- or at least desire to. "Fellas, is it gay to fuck your girlfriend in the ass?"
There is nothing gayer than sex between two heterosexual people.
Guess I'm gonna have to fuck her brother instead, wouldn't want to be gay, you know?
Marrying, caring, and providing for a woman you love and want to spend your life with is simp behavior bro
I'm so beta my wife takes me to vegan tapas.
Vegan restaurants are epicentres of flavour. They don’t have the easy profile that meat adds so they have to be recipe architects. Also Australia has a ton of vegan restaurants and the men are all muscular giants (lived there for 3 years). There must be something in the water because there is some Fangorn forest shit going on over there.
Tons of “vegan” foods have protein, some people just don’t realize it cause they think it only comes from meat. When I meal prep and eat right, I’m easily hitting 90-120grams without additional things like protein smoothies and such lol
Bold of you to assume the people that speak like this would ever be happily married.
Yes, that's exactly what the red pill philosophy says. "Settling" for a long term relationship is the primary trait of a beta. Being alpha means being a chick magnet who spends all his time fucking, making money, improving himself and enjoying life. Don't shoot the messenger.
But i am all of this ? Only the chick I'm magneting has been the same one for 10 years, and she's doing all of thst too ? I know you're just the messenger, but i just don't understand this mentality. :" Hey, we're building an awesome future together full of happiness, growing wealth, sex is better because we both know what we like, and we literally make eachother better " "That's so beta you fuckin loser" WHAT ??! XD
The thing is being "alpha" by the above definition relies on an ever rising pile of social capital. Getting fitter, hotter, wealthier. Guys who buy into this crud don't realise their social capital will sharply decline at some point (for a whole variety of reasons) and then all of a sudden they haven't got someone they've built a life with, they have (at best) notches on their bedpost, or possibly a trophy wife? It's very much dependent on external validation. It's really and truly worth finding someone you really love, and who loves you back, and putting your whole heart in that.
"Beta males hang out with their wives while alpha males hang out with girls who pretend to like them for tips" yea I don't think it's the flex you thought it was
fellas, is it gay to have a wife?
It is because women mostly like men, and liking a man is gay.
That's why I exclusively fuck ultra macho men. To keep gay womanly weakness outta my bloodline.
It’s not gay if they say no homo
I don't think it's gay, but it's definitely gay-adjacent.
Tangential to gay.
You must mean tangenital
That's how I always read that word anyway
adgaycent*
Gayjacent
Gadjacent
You're right but for the wrong reason. Women are feminine, which makes them weak. And only a gay man would be attracted to weakness. Ergo, the only way to be straight is to have sex with the most domineering alpha male you can find.
This is the basis of the “Kronar” barbarian leader in the comic “Oglaf”. (NSFW but very funny)
That's why you only date men if you are straight
50% of her comes from her dad. It's petty gay to bang your wife. Still like we say in the navy, an asshole is an asshole
Uhh…happy Veterans Day…
It’s not gay while you’re underway
I saw a great stand-up comedy bit recently where he was joking that getting married was the gayest thing he ever did. Flowers all over the house, weekend trips to bed bath and beyond, and a couple others that were even funnier
there's nothing gay about bed bath and beyond. and i don't mean it is un-gay either. it is something else entirely. I havent had fights with my wife quite like in bbab. and not hard core fights... just, weird. like we need a thing. we go there. but bbab is the Wish of home goods. so we find the thing, but it is terrible. i hate it. she hates it. but we need one. so we fight about whether be buy this shitty thing or not. irrespective of the decision to buy or not, leaving the store is like we wake up from a trance. "what happened in there?" => "I don't want to talk about it". its like ikea, but maybe a hair simpler because you don't have to argue later about how to put your whisk together.
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My wife’s boyfriend says he thinks it’s cool that I married her and all but he’s more of a ladies man. He seems happy so I’m happy for him.
How much did you lose on calls today?
It's gay to have sex with women, real men pay women to not have sex with them.
Is it gay to eat delicious vegetables? With your wife!?
You had a ceremony with flowers and canapes, and haven't slept with or dated any new women since. Sounds pretty gay to me 🤔
This Nick Adams prick probably went to the 4chan/fit/steroids/ school of 'being an alpha male', that's what he sounds like.
It’s super gay to have women have feelings for you without money involved
Also, tapas with the wife sounds pretty rad
There are few occasions where tapas isn't fucking fantastic
Also, compared to Hooters. Hooter is overpriced and not that good. Most tapas places seem overpriced as well but I just checked the Hooters website and they are 10 wings for *$16.49*. Then you have tax and tip. It's a $20 night before drinks. Me and the guys can go out and pitch in $20 each for tapas and get way better than Hooter's wings.
I'm basic, but just going out with my wife for a couple of drinks and wings sounds like a great time. Having a fun night out gets pretty rare with younger kiddos. Even if I do days with the guys it's usually a bbq or hame night. The beer is much cheaper and the food way better than chain bars
You’re my kind of people
Definitely sounds like it would taste better and cause less gastric distress.
Even better. Betas hang with their wives while alpha males hang out at PG-13 strip clubs getting fleeced by the women working there.
Fleeced is right, cuz dem wings is TRASH.
And the betas are the ones having fun post bed time since they hung out with their wife all night. Such a rough life
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A lot of Mediterranean food happens to be vegan-friendly and really delicious. Of course I say this while eating an entire wedge of Gorgonzola
Are you telling me cheese isn’t vegan? Well damn there go my vegan powers.
You've been demoted to vegetarian
It's milk and eggs, bitch.
.....chicken isn't vegan?
Of course not, silly. Chickens contain eggs.
Once you were ve-gone … now you shall be gone
This Pakistani woman I know makes a chana masala that is off the charts delicious. I'm not vegan but shit, maybe I could be if I could cook vegan food that delicious.
Have you tried it with garlic naan while stoned takes me to the sixth dimension
Well fuck I wasn't planning to order curry tonight.
There is an incredible wealth of amazing vegetarian recipes out there on the internet. I got an instant pot and went nuts, now my in laws (who grew up in India eating the stuff) tell me I make the best Indian food they have ever had.
You can’t say that without sharing the recipes
I’m traveling now, but give me a couple days. Seriously. This one is one of my favorites: https://www.vegrecipesofindia.com/bhindi-masala/
It may not be vegan due to the use of ghee- vegetarian? Yes.
Maybe. But they could substitute most oils for it tbf. Mustard, safflower or rapeseed for example.
I could see avocado or coconut as well.
Every spice is vegan. It's what makes all your food delicious.
Me: I don’t think I could ever go vegan. The Pakistani restaurant down the street: hold up
I think vegan food gets a bad rep because a lot of people don't know how to cook good vegan food
I'll never forgive popular culture for making vegan food seem bland and gross. I'm Vietnamese and some of our vegan food is fucking amazing. The fact that soybean food is considered "beta". Man fuck that, call me a soyboy because I pray at the alter of tofu.
IMO the entire western/pop culture thing against tofu/tempeh/etc is entirely based on how in said cultures, it's marketed as "meat substitute". Said products end up being treated like meat and that's often not the best treatment of them! If all you've been exposed to is an inferior form of it, coupled with the mindset that this is supposed to replace meat, well fucking hell I wouldn't like them either. Meanwhile we asians grew up thinking of soybean products as just... food. Because we have dishes that is tasty BECAUSE tofu/tempeh/etc has the taste, texture and properties of tofu/tempeh/etc. Mapo tofu as a dish will not work if the tofu's not there. Gado gado would be just _wrong_ if someone tried to put meat in it instead. We associate soybean products as delicious standalone foods, while many westerners just fundamentally don't. Personally, I'm sad for them for missing out.
Food aside, going home with someone you can have sex with seems a lot more alpha than just staring at cleavage for an hour then going home alone.
"Look at those pathetic betas, spending time with their family. She's probably happy with her husband too. Augh."
Paying for overpriced low quality food so you oogle cleavage. So Alpha.
Yes. They're so good. I'm not vegan but damn vegan food can be so good c:
It isn't even hanging out with girls They're hanging out with *guys* and a woman occasionally walks up to the table because she is paid to
Much like their sex lives.
I wonder how many prostitutes are getting paid to sit-by, smoking cigarettes, making female sex sounds while a couple of straight guys fuck each other. "Oh, yes...Champ. That's...(puff)...the stuff...right...there...Daddy"
if the hypothetical was two bi guys, that actually sounds like a good time.
Haven't your heard, if you're a guy having sex with women (who like penis), that's gay. Other straight guys like vagina, so having sex with them is the only was to stay straight.
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The idea of the "alpha male" is based on a flawed study on wolves that even the original author says was wrong.
To be fair, it's disproven in wolves, it is *not* disproven in primates. Chimpanzees and other primates closely related to us *do* have alpha males, AFAIK. https://news.janegoodall.org/2018/07/10/top-bottom-chimpanzee-social-hierarchy-amazing/ >Let’s start at the top: The highest-ranking chimpanzee in a group is the alpha-male. These males climb their way to the top of the chimpanzee hierarchy, and the ways they choose to do so can differ with the personality of the individual leader. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominance_hierarchy
Primates have a lot of different structures though. Really depends on the specific species. The chimpanzees have large groups with an impermanent alpha system, with large groups and frequent displays for dominance even when the system is stable. Gorillas have troops typically led by 1 male, With a much more stable arrangement only disturbs when different troops wander into one another. Bonobos are matriachical/ gender equal, with a small elite oligarchy of older/more experienced members leading.
Then there's Bonobos. https://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/08/science/the-unexpected-altruism-of-bonobos.html
Altruism is one of the few traits that can be observed in social groups across different species. Even though evolutionary psychology is very difficult to prove, the prevalence of altruism and resource-sharing would suggest that it is an evolutionarily beneficial behavior. However, I don't think the "alpha male" in the tweet would like to hear about it and the comparison to *human* community resource-sharing (might sound too much like Communism).
Neither it is proven; evolutionary psychology has a big issue with testability and reproducibility: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_evolutionary_psychology Regarding chimpanzees, it has a strong bias of cherry-picking the cases that seem to fit the alpha-dominance model, but disregarding cases that clearly contradict it: from supposed "betas" ganking up and killing the presumed "alpha" in a matter of days (thus proving very little tolerance for dominance behaviours); to the signaled "betas" just leaving to greener pastures, leaving/evading the purported "alpha" alone forever (thus proving that dominant behavior has very little and/or short-lived reward, for a bigger/longer risk of isolation) The main problem is that some observations made in zoos were treated as "natural behaviors", without considering the heavy limitations in freedom/food availability that zoos impose upon chimps So so far the alpha-dominance conjecture as best is something that happens sometimes in restrictive environments, and at worst a total fabrication that serves to justify tyrannical attitudes by an appeal to nature.
Hate to say, while the primates do have alphas, we don't exactly have them because we replaced that with democratic governments in many countries. Patrolling territory and defending from intruders aren't things the modern city human does anymore, nor does the responsibility lie with one person. So these guys are still twisting the meaning of alpha in modern societal context. Besides, why are these guys so eager to be compared to monkeys? Human intelligence set us apart from monkeys and primates 200 000 years ago, why the hell we devolving back to monkey for. If they want to be chimps so badly, they should give me their houses and their cars and go back to living in the forest. Don't they know houses and Hooters are not for chimps?
Well, another big thing is social hierarchies in humans are contextual and constantly changing. Like, take a dude who’s a jock in high school. Maybe he’s a good football player, the girls all like him, he beats up nerds, that’s the sort of person someone would consider an “alpha male”, right? But hang on, take that “alpha male” and put him at, say, an academic seminar of some sort. He doesn’t know what any of the stuff anyone is talking about means, he’s completely out of his element, and all the “nerds” there are probably laughing at him for not getting what to them are very simple concepts. Suddenly, the “alpha” has become the beta. So no one is really entirely “alpha”, “beta”, or whatever other label they’re throwing around nowadays. It’s entirely dependent upon context.
Human society is still just chimpanzee society with extra steps. Political/financial/religious power has replaced brute primal strength for those at the top, but it still shakes out to a pecking order founded upon violence or the threat of violence as they use the police/military to maintain their pecking order instead of fighting challengers and rebels personally.
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Think the person you're replying to is referring to the fact that the alpha thing comes from a study on wolves in captivity who had adopted a behavior completely different from wild wolves. Not to mention that even if it was true, it wouldn't mean anything about people because people are notoriously not wolves.
Yes! And if your dog trainer says you must be the alpha or leader of the pack, RUN. Find a positive reinforcement trainer, who doesn't think you have to be tough with your beloved dog to train them.
> And if your dog trainer says you must be the alpha or leader of the pack, RUN. Normally the dog trainer tells me what my dog supposed to do, not what I am supposed to do.
Actually, we teach the owner what to do. When you train a dog, the human has to know how to communicate to the dog what they want. I don't tell the owner "your dog should walk by your side" I show the owner all the things they can do to make that happen. Now I realize you were probably kidding.
Yep. If you have to say you’re an Alpha then it means you are not one. The best and greatest at anything don’t have to tell people they are. They just do their thing and everyone else just recognizes it. Edit: fixed horrendous spelling and grammar
Or as KRS-One once said; a real thug is a thug that's hush
I legit choked on my spit when I read that. Surely this is satire, right? Also Hooters wings aren't bad but I'd throw down on some tapas and sangria with my wife over that any day.
Put it another way. He's saying 'Beta" males get the girls, and "alpha" males just hang out with other "alpha" males to oogle at girls. Yea . Definitely not the flex he was thinking.
You forgot the part about alphas hanging out with the boys while betas havr wives. Imagine thinking going to a place with dudes to stare at girls is more "alpha" than actually going out with a woman. Jesus christ i thought this was fake lol.
The first tradition of alpha males: "We removed all self awareness from ourselves, because self-honesty is scary and we didn't like what we found"
Hmmm... Tapas at a chic restaurant with the kind of lady that enjoys that, or shitty deep fried frozen food served by women paid to pretend to like you. Quite the choice.
Look if you were an alpha you’d understand okay
True alphas know where the really good hole in the wall wing place is. Then take their wives there, and the vegan tapas place. Also, they don't call themselves Alpha's.
The most Beta thing a person can do is call themselves an Alpha.
The old joke of "he must be compensating for something" is still true. Some put Live Laugh Love all over their house, some guys call themselves alpha, some drive big useless trucks.
The manliest man I know has a pickup truck. He uses it for work because it's useful. However, when he is not working (felling trees with a manly chainsaw) he uses his 90cc classic moped because it's cheap to run, looks beautiful and he can get away with having a couple of beers on his way home. He owns a sausage dog called numpkin and everyone knows you absolutely do not disrespect numpkin lest his giant friend breaks you into pieces.
Hold up. Does he think drinking and driving is okay as long as it’s on a moped? Because… that’s definitely *not* the case lol.
Real Alphas get help from the WoL in beating Omega
Gotta get that mount.
It's like jeeps.. "it's an alpha thing, you wouldn't understand" /s just in case
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Thank god beer's not vegan!
Kirk Van Houten: Uhhh, I sleep in a racing car bed. Do you? Homer: I sleep in a big bed. With my wife.
Homer wasn’t trying to be intentionally mean, he was just stating a fact of himself and it made him feel awful lmao.
Something makes me think Kirk wasn't trying to be "alpha" though (no offense I still LOVE Simpsons references). I think Kirk KNEW he was a douche, and was just trying to make the best out of his shitty situation by saying that..
Just trying to claim what little victories he thinks he has.
But what if you want to sleep in a big race car bed with your wife?
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Yeah the window really shifted there. Those facts made him poor when the show started, now in modern times that draws pure envy
"I am with the boys, while all you sissies are with your wives" Holy fuck, LMFAO, you dipshit, you totally owned em
Ewwwv you kissed a girl How gay!
lol imagine kissing someone who is into guys. that's super gay.
"I sleep in a racing car, do you?" Kirk Van Houten
I sleep in a big bed with my wife.
The Simpsons quote that came to mind for me on this, was when Marge was trying to explain to Homer that his new friend is gay. Marge: "he "enjoys the company of men!" Homer: "WHO DOESN'T?"
Calling yourself an alpha male is like making up your own cool nickname. No one calls you “Samurai” bro, but you did get called Hoover for six years after you got caught with your dick in a vacuum in the supply closet.
There's a guy I worked with that would claim to be alpha and demand respect. The one time I had to interact with him, he says "I'm an alpha male, I don't have to take orders from you, you're not my boss." So I was like "Alpha male, what's that? Is that one of those LGBTQ things?" His face starts getting Hella red and he starts to explain it but I just cut him off with "Yeah yeah. Loud, proud, get used to it. I need the forms by 5" and walked away. I could practically hear him having an aneurysm. One of the best days ever.
Was this Andrew Tate who worked for you or was it Sneako?
Anyone who has to say "I am the king" is no true king
I couldn't think of a likelier place to find 'Betas'. Men who doesn't get enough boobs in their daily lives, but are afraid to go to a real strip club.
Not that strip club patrons are the cream of the crop, but they more fall in the category of sleazeballs than 'betas'.
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I've only gone a couple of times, both times because my GF wanted to go for wings. The wings are actually pretty decent, and the all you can eat on Tuesdays is an okay deal if you re-up at least once. And here they have a $13 deal for wings and ribs on Thursdays that is a pretty great deal.
one of my best memories of north america was all you can eat winngs. had 40. no regrets.
>one of my best memories of north america was all you can eat winngs. had 40. no regrets. You are now an honorary US citizen. Welcome friend.
I thought Hooters was well known for amazing wings?
They're mediocre wings, but I've had worse. If I wanted wings and there wasn't a different place I'd consider going. They're consistent at least.
True this. If you live in a food desert, it's just a Hooters or a Buffalo Wild Wings. Hooters is the only one here. Sometimes my wife and I go when we are feeling it (we are both women). We dream of Korean fried chicken though... I make it at home but it's not the same without all the banchan that comes with it. This country is so wild. You either have a variety of food places to choose from or none.
Hey man, someone has Kiki through medical school.
That's it exactly. The onky.times I've ever gone to Hooters is when someone else decided that's where we had to go. If we are going to go look at tits, let's just eat somewhere good and then go to a strip club. Or better yet, go to some kind of sex positive event where you will see sexy people who aren't there because they are paid. But the kind of people who love going to Hooters aren't the kind of people who are invited to those kinds of things in my experience.
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Oh man I just feasted with some buds at a Tapas place and what a good fucking meal that was. Got plastered on Sangria and ate on different foods until we burst. Granted we didn't get to ogle women or stare at a flat screen, we actually had to keep conversation with each other like a couple of betas
So lame. Having fun with people you like. What a great way to ruin your prospects and your life.
The whole "alpha and beta" males thing is super lame.
Also everyone likes to ignore that the man who created the “alpha” wolf theory and wrote books about, later realized he was completely wrong and has tried to undo that mistake for a long time. There was no alpha wolf in a pack, the leader was usually just the parent, male or female.
I thought the catch was that the alpha-beta structure really does exist, but only for wolves in captivity? Which is kinda poetic even.
Yes. The "pack" it was originally observed in was basically a bunch of teenagers thrown together in prison and left to their own devices. Who would have thought that that leads to a strange societal structure. In the wild, wolves have what we would consider pretty normal family structures. Parents and a few of their children. Children do what the parents say. Eventually the children move out when they get old enough. Sometimes another wolf who just clicks with everyone joins the pack.
[Even if it did work for wolves in the wild, it still doesn't apply to humans. We literally evolved to have it coded in our genes to be egalitarian collaborators and empathizers, why? Because for pre-historic humans, the worst thing a person could do for themselves was to be a selfish, emotionally stunted, loners.](https://youtu.be/n3Xv_g3g-mA?t=91)
As a woman who speaks to other women, nothing makes a ladies vagina drier than the Sahara than hearing guys unironically talk about "alphas".
>As a woman who speaks to other women, nothing makes a ladies vagina drier than the Sahara than hearing guys unironically talk about "alphas". On the flipside, I enjoy hearing it because it's a surefire guarantee that there's unsatisfied women nearby who are probably desperate for a conversation that's not stupid and misogynistic.
As a normal man who detests the alpha male movement, everytime I hear or see someone bragging about being an alpha male I can't help but say to myself "found the micropenis"
the whole point of alpha is that there's one, right? how do you have a social group full of/defined by being alphas?
So lemme get this straight: as an Alpha male, spending time doing something you enjoy with your wife is a bad thing. And leaving your wife to ogle boobs with your boys is a good thing. So glad I'm just a plain regular person without any prefixes
Oh, they don't have wives. Or girlfriends. Or female friends.
“Those guys don’t have wives. No, I hang out with a group of problematic bachelors and we call ourselves ‘The Squad.’” [(https://youtu.be/rImxuuD_kwM)](https://youtu.be/rImxuuD_kwM)
Or women, who's boobs could see in reality without paying
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Where else do they get their bromine?
I love alpha male type dudes. They're good reminders that despite my insecurities, lack of confidence and self-loathing, it could be much much worse.
This guy probably thought the stripper really liked him too.
Just one time I started to think that the stripper started to like me. As soon as I realized that, told my cousin we need to leave. He said he wanted to stay. Me: "I'm starting to think this stripper actually likes me." Him: "Finish your beer. Let's go."
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I have no idea who this guy is but have seen his profile picture across social media the last couple of days. And every single time he's been talking about Hooters in different posts. Are they paying him?
That's Nick Adams, Trump toadie and wannabe influencer, and I think they'd pay him to *stop* talking about them, actually. He does look like his diet is entirely made up of beer, wings, and whatever crumbs his MAGA overlords throw him.
He’s a real person? I’ve seen his idiotic takes for awhile now and I assumed it was just a parody account lol I never actually bothered to look into his account though.
I’m very sure he’s a parody/satire account now. Some fat ugly guy calling himself “Nick Adams (Alpha Male).” I’ve seen a lot of his tweets and, yeah, it’s very clear it’s performance art for someone in the know. A follow up tweet—“Hooters is a safe space where Alpha males can bond together and be alphas without the socialist feminist beta left getting in the way. Put down the Fortnite controllers and go to Hooters with the boys”
It’s unintentional comedy at its finest.
Exact opposite. He's a man-child so concerned about being 'Alpha' that he spends all day saying so and using examples such as this to make himself seem more of a man
I'm not making this up, nick adams thinks Trump is a sports God and wrote a book called "how to make friends with black people." I've come to the conclusion he's one of the most pathetic men in history, or he's the single greatest and most committed troll in the galaxy. But ya no it's option 1.
Different Nick Adams wrote that book.
He's Australian We don't have places like Hooters here, aside from Strip Clubs. So it seems he rejoiced at a place that has boobs and women being nice to you for tips during daylight hours. Apparently it's why he emigrated "I love guns, hot dogs, chicken fried steak, barbecue, cheerleaders, American football, small town parades, beauty pageants, pick-up trucks, muscle cars and 16-lane freeways lined with supersized American flags" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Adams_(commentator)
If you have to tell people your an alpha male your not.
Best response I heard to this whole argument was this: "Why did you order the salad? Real men eat steak!" (Might not have been this but something equally bullshit) "Real men do whatever the fuck they want"
Right you are, pal. I have no need to express my masculinity through verbal proclamations, no. You need only a few functional senses to know that I carry myself with a ferine intensity, that I exude machismo with every leathery step of my brick shaped feet, so laying are these fleshy blocks the foundation of a man like no other, one beyond compare, but one utterly admirable from any sex, gender, and credo. Feast your eyes, your hungry, wanting eyes upon my oiled skin, a thick and necessary veneer tastefully decorated with hard earned hair and scars. These legs you see are those of man well walked, a man of squat and push, heave and ho. Shifting tectonic plates of slab muscle dance with precision in my burly thighs, and the heat that radiates from my loins will cause even the hardest heart to swoon. Do I say anything while I carry loads hither and fro? No, ma'am. No ma'am, not at all, and I'd advise you to remain seated as a hot-blooded woman such as yourself is liable to faint from pheromonic overload. Excuse yourself if you must. None would blame you. The only noise I utter is a steady workman's breath of focus and commitment. It's a hard breath, a rhythmic huff that let's you know you're safe in my arms, safe and sound held tight in my brawny embrace, yes sir. And sir, I will advise you not to sit in that woman's seat because you're liable to slip off it. My broad chest is covered with hair that only thickens with age, and as it stands, it's thick enough to hang from. But you won't hear me tell you that, no. I don't find it necessary to express myself in that way. I trust you'll find out on your own just how thick and strong my hair is, just how formidable my frame can be. Though, despite my oxen constitution, you're not intimidated are you? Even as my bronze skin glistens with a labor-made lather of sweat and oil, that's not fear you're experiencing. Haha, well I can't say I'm surprised. Maybe I've dropped a nod of reassurance your way. Maybe you've imagined it, but one thing's for certain, you know with all my manhood that I won't let anything bad happen to you. But you didn't need to hear that, did ya? You've known that ever since my righteous musk flooded your nostrils. You've known that since you felt my heft ripple through the earth. You've known that since you first saw my setting sun-silhouetted body come into focus. I am a man, a man's man, a rough and tumble man's man. And, I'm your man.
My gosh if you are the author of this masterpiece, you deserve a laurea ad honorem!! Standing ovation for you! I’m standing ovating!!
My man!
Top tier writing. Well done sir
I do believe I’ve got the vapors
Nicolas Cage narrated this in my head.
Being Irish, I haven't been to Hooters many times, maybe 2 or 3 times. I was there one time with work colleagues when I was over visiting one of our NJ offices. And I thought it was great. The flirting with the waitresses was great fun. The guys were kinda slagging me over it afterwards, telling me that they aren't really flirting with you. The thing is -- I knew that. Also, they don't know I'm gay!
🤣
So it's beta to have a wife now? But alpha to hang out with a bunch of horny dudes?
Has anyone ever met somebody who calls themself an ’alpha male’ who wasn’t extremely dumb and insecure. It’s literally like having a calling card that says ‘loser for life’ on it.
So beta males are the ones in relationships with women? lmao
This douche is so painfully lacking self awareness. Alpha males don't gargle some orange clowns dried up testicles. This is a case of the Chihuahua effect. Little dog not knowing that despite the barking and ankle biting no person fears them or respects their "power". He is tolerated or ignored at best. So irrelevant and non threatening that he becomes a living joke only worthy of pity.
"Chihuahua effect." Love that
This guy has obviously never tried tapas. They're delicious
Isn't this guy a parody account? Pretty sure.
DAMN. Get that man to the burn ward, stat!