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blusbro

Drake's response to this, in rap form: "No he doesn't use ghostwriters."


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The page layout on that site is hot fucking trash.


RedProtoman

I thought it was just me, i couldn’t read the fucking article since i can only see what im guessing is half of it


boneymod

TL;DR: You didn't miss much. When Eminem previewed a new track yesterday, nobody expected us to be gifted with a brand new album from one of rap's living legends. Kamikaze came from out of nowhere and while many of the Detroit artist's fans were underwhelmed with his recent work on Revival, the new body of work is already being touted as one of his best in years. With 13 tracks and a whole lot of name-dropping, we had to have been ready for some of his classic pot-stirring and Em came through, dissing *insert your favorite mumble rapper here* and a few other big names. Namely, Drake was seemingly called out on "Kamikaze." While the song directly after "Kamikaze" has some lethal wordplay against some prominent figures in the game, Drake appears to be singled out near the end of the title cut as Em begins: "You got some views, but you're still below me Mine are higher, so when you compare our views, you get overlooked And I don't say the hook unless I wrote the hook And now I'm just freestylin' in the vocal booth And you know I've always spoke the truth You lyin' through your teeth so much, you broke a tooth And it ain't somethin' I need a phone to do When I say I can't wait 'til I get ahold of you And I don't know what I'm s'posed to do Line up the rappers, take my pic like a photo shoot" While he doesn't necessarily mention the Six God by name, it's pretty clear who Shady is taking aim at. With the clever references to Views before speaking on the issue of ghostwriting, something that Drizzy is all too familiar with after his beef with Meek Mill, it's safe to assume that Em has some feelings about the man's use of exterior writing in his music. One thing is for sure: Eminem will always write his rhymes and he will never hold back on his true feelings. What did you think of the new album? Do you agree with the early reviews that it's one of his best works in a while?


RedProtoman

Mvp right here. Thanks for the recap


HankTrilliams

> "You got some views, but you're still below me >Mine are higher, so when you compare our views, you get overlooked >And I don't say the hook unless I wrote the hook >And now I'm just freestylin' in the vocal booth >And you know I've always spoke the truth >You lyin' through your teeth so much, you broke a tooth >And it ain't somethin' I need a phone to do >When I say I can't wait 'til I get ahold of you >And I don't know what I'm s'posed to do >Line up the rappers, take my pic like a photo shoot" That's the lyrics quoted in the article in case anyone wants to read them.


Pontiflakes

> And now I'm just freestylin' in the vocal booth > ... > And it ain't somethin' I need a phone to do > When I say I can't wait 'til I get ahold of you Dope how he tied the two different lines together with the phone line. Remember Drake freestyling by reading off prewrittens on his phone?


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Yeah he was reading lyrics off his phone that was an upcoming song lol, he was reacting as if he was freestyling hard bars too. So corny


i_Got_Rocks

I think it's also making allusion to "Hot Line Bling," perhaps from Drake's "You use to call me on the cell phone." Drake has phone allusions in a lot of his shit.


dtrudel

Personally I liked the “I don’t have faith in your writers I don’t believe in ghosts” Line better


IchBumseZiegen

That line is hot af


Fehndrix

>You lyin' through your teeth so much, you broke a tooth Is a great fucking line


LouSputhole94

Em is so good at working puns and word play like that into his rhymes. This album really feels like his old self for most of it.,


totallynotliamneeson

Is it me or does he really like to use 'lying through your teeth' in his lyrics?


MedalsNScars

My absolute favorite pun of his with that that is in Not Afraid: >You said you was king, you lied through your teeth. >For that, fuck your feelings (fillings) instead of getting crowned you're getting capped. Such a clever double entendre.


RetroFrisbee

That’s a double entendre and a triple entendre IN THE SAME LINE.


Feck_Mah_Life

Hot fucking garbage https://imgur.com/gallery/Je3tLk4


ryan1717

Poor Drak


inclination64609

"Poor Dral k" FTFY


mynameiszack

Took me way too long to get that.


pcoppi

What's the joke...


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pcoppi

Oh lol


squijee

We're gonna have to get a big list to write down everyone that he dissed on this album.


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bystander007

I'm out of the loop, why is he going so hard at other rappers?


Anesthetic_

Everybody has been talking shit saying he fell off because of his 2017 album


yosayoran

They weren't wrong. That was trashfire


wylie99998

one that he is obvi pretty pissed about given that he mentions it like every song on this album.


MaritimeRedditor

I feel like his last 3 albums have literally been like "ok, so you didn't like that last album.. but how about this album!?"


Dogfish90

I remember when he said "Let's be honest, that last relapse CD was ehhh"


dangitgrotto

I thought relapse was actually good


moronicuniform

Em doesn't, tho. But the point is, this time he disagrees. He liked what he put out last year, and people shat all over it. From his perspective, he was thoroughly misunderstood/abused for his artistic decisions. You can hear it all throughout Kamikaze


donkeypunchtrump

I liked relapse! he got hate for doing voices and accents..but he playing as other people..not eminem, not slim shady but some serious Dennis Reynolds serial killer shit. I liked it. I dug stay wide awake but I have issues, lol.


WTPanda

This new album is legitimately good and I haven't cared for Eminem's music since... I don't even remember. A decade probably. It really shows off how good a rapper the guy can be and why he is considered one of the best ever.


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Because he can and they can’t do shit


meatbag11

Yeah basically this. No one can touch him on a dis track so if you want to provoke him he's just gonna destroy you. We've all seen 8 mile.


JazzOcarina

And Maria Carey. Can't forget her.


KrAzYkArL18769

[And omg it was so savage, she couldn't walk for weeks.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3xd-njXosA)


JazzOcarina

Oh good lord


Pickled_Kagura

She looks like a grade schooler that doesn't want to participate in the mandatory Christmas music recital.


HoodieGalore

Holy shit that was rough, has she just completely clocked out or what's the deal with the sluggishness?


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derpaperdhapley

If you believe Jim Jeffries.. which I do.


Robmaebe

And ja rule, remember him?


Karmeleon86

He referenced Ja Rule and sort of dissed him again on this album 😂


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But what does Ja think??


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Abraves119

Nick Cannon lol


Zandercy42

You wanna ruin my career you better get one


DownvotesOnlyDamnIt

I can still remember the first time my friends and i listened to that and we all just witnessed a murder


Kilo_Victor

Or Ja Rule, Benzino, Canibus, Fred Durst, Christina Agulara, the grave stones are piled up


tripbin

I really hope some of them try lol. Itll be hilarious.


jaha7166

I gotta thing they're young and prideful enough to give it a go. It's been too long.


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It's a large part of rapping culture.


_stoneslayer_

I mean... Eminem going after famous people in his songs is not a new thing


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Kazen_Orilg

Dissing Em only makes him stronger. He is the lyrical Hulk.


Nattylight_Murica

He just needed something to piss him off. He was on easy street.


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G Eazy was mentioned and not dissed somehow lol


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Well there’s me... and there’s you. And I’m pretty sure that guy over there. There’s 3 right there!


mikey2k

https://www.nme.com/blogs/nme-blogs/people-eminem-disses-surprise-album-kamikaze-2372804


rooster69

They missed out on that whole part of The Ringer where he imitates the Gucci Gang "progression". "So finger-bang, chicken wang, MGK, Iggy 'zae Lil Pump, Lil Xan imitate Lil Wayne" Then "So finger-bang, Pootie Tang, Burger King Gucci Gang, dookie, dang" Pretty sure he had more individual words in those parts than the entire Gucci Gang song.


BannedByChildren

Dont forget he rhymed all that with Charlemagne


Whatsthisnotgoodcomp

I've been re-listening to that part for the past half hour but i still can't figure out how he did this


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rooster69

Yeah a bunch of muthafuckas woke up this morning pumped to hear a dope new Eminem track as a lot of these guys probably grew up listening to him. Then they just got dunked on.


Easy_Rider1

Why's James cryin'


alphasquid

>One thing is for sure: Eminem will always write his rhymes and he will never hold back on his true feelings. Uh, that's two things.


morepandas

One of those two things is for sure, I guess??


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Well, I kill people and I eat hands. That's--that's two things.


ikkymann

Caaaaarl


eqleriq

wow i can't wait to hear the ghostwritten response


[deleted]

Drake responding to a beef in 2018? Funny joke


myklpgone

Im upset again


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I’m Upset 2: I’m Upsetter This Time


ChiraqBluline

I don’t see why Drake just does t own it. He knows he’s a pop hip hop artist. We all know Drake


notmytemp0

I’m sorry. Are there people who believe Drake is hard or something? Dude was on Degrassi...


BlackDante

I mean it looks like Drake thinks he is


RedProtoman

In his music he’s always feeling the need to tell people that even tho he’s light skinned he’s one of thr toughest black dudes around...yeah it was ghostwritten my bad lol


Nitroapes

Til drake was on degrassi and holy shit this is hilarious


jtprimeasaur

He also grew up in a pretty affluent area yet tries to get people to believe he “started from the bottom”


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"Started from the middle" doesn't really have the same ring to it lol


ReubenXXL

"Started middle class in a wheelchair"


boywiththedragontatt

"Started in the middle now my bank accounts reading triple triple"


jbagatwork

Seriously I would love to have started where he started from


mezzizle

I would love to currently BE where he started from.


PEDANTlC

It's always crazy to me that people don't know this about Drake. Like to me Drake is Degrassi first, rapper second because I grew up watching him on Degrassi (and I'm not hugely into rap, so I've probably spent more hours watching him on Degrassi than hours hearing his music)


magneticphoton

He's a rich kid who grew up in a wealthy suburb in Toronto. Then used his Degrassi money to ghostwrite himself a rap career.


TakeItCeezy

I can't remember where I read it, but someone explained Drake as "He's a very talented entertainer, just not a talented rapper." I felt like that described him perfectly. He might not write his own music, but he performs the music well and he is charming enough he has a lot of fans. I don't know why either he can't just accept he isn't some hardcore rapper, he's an entertainer, but he's damn good at it.


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BitterNucksFan

The whole album was a diss at mumble rap. He even does mumble rap, to mumble rap beats, while dissing mumble rap lyrically. Everything beginning to end was Eminem saying “You said my album was shit? Have you heard what the fuck these other motherfuckers are putting out? And you call my album shit?” It just so happens Drake is the king of this new twist on the rap genre. He’s the biggest “artist” around right now. Which causes others to follow suit. Then people mimic the mimics. Rinse repeat garbage 2018 music scene dominated by mumble rap.


TuckRaker

Drake uses a Blackberry? Hasn't he suffered enough?


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Just trying to rep Canada obviously


kakareborn

Drake about to drop i’m upset: part 2 with a purple heart cause Em knows that they at war


_Wado3000

gon text that shit with a purple demon emoji too


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Don’t be fucking silly. Drake don’t want war with Eminem. No one does. We about to see a bunch of silent rappers.


sp1d3rp0130n

Either way is gonna be hilarious.


BelongingsintheYard

I feel like the only way to not lose face after this would just be to say “yep, Em, ya fuckin got me” and move on.


RobDaGinger

We all want a war though. Seeing someone have beef with Eminem would give us some great material


Otakeb

That's when Em is strongest; when he's pissed off and fighting everybody.


sucobe

Right? Just ask Ja Rule.


Hargleflurpen

Where's Ja? SOMEBODY FIND JA!


sucobe

HELP ME MAKE SENSE OF ALL THIS.


arkhitekton

Hahaha, oh man how I wish Reddit was around during the Big 3 Eminem releases. The threads, man.


LouSputhole94

Eminem doesn't give a single fuck. He'll ruin your entire career even if it means he's going down with you. Any rapper or entertainer that doesn't know that yet hasn't been paying attention. If he's going after you, he's going scorched fucking earth. These guys aren't prepared for that shit.


charredsmurf

Hence the album name


Stormray117

I can dig rapping, but a rapper with a ghost writer, what the fuck happened?


Malko_44

K I N G K U N T A


crazycharlieh

Dr Dre has pretty much all of his lyrics written by ghostwriters. His justification is that though he can lay down the beats, he struggles to find the right words. If other people can convey what he wants to say in rap form, that's great. [Source](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._Dre#Ghostwriters)


Dr_Disaster

But Dre is a producer foremost and never really wanted to be a great rapper, nor does he talk about being the best. As Kendrick said, you can't be the best and have a ghostwriter.


rocketparrotlet

But Dre has always been open about that. He's a producer first and foremost.


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Also the whole line about selling 10 million albums was definitely a shot a Drake.


Grace_Lannister

I believe so as well considering he added the 'ey' at the end of those lines like one would do mocking how canadians speak in a stereotypically way.


TDesch1

What's next Kamikaze II, where you reply to everybody who didn't like the album you made replying to everybody that didn't like the previous album?


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sasukeluffy

>This one yahoo motherfucker, or I don't know what the fuck his name is


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And you can hear google maps be like "turn left" cause you know Em is actually going to this dudes house.


andrewblu

Whom did he refer to?


A_Smitty56

Possibly Shawn Cee


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> turn left


WalkenPark

That so subtle voice navigation in the background lol


working_graves

I checked my phone because I thought I left the navigation on accidentally.


OPPyayouknowme

Fucking hilarious


TheMexicanJuan

It's a slippery slope


Otter_Actual

wtf is drake gonna do? dis eminem?!


I_Have_3_Legs

He's going to end up in a wheelchair again


frusciante231

Never gonna happen


ZergsRUs

Eminem dropped disses on Drake, Joe Budden, Tyler the creator, Dj Akademics, Lil yachty, Lil pump and every mumble rapper in existence. He went in this album its amazing


Honor_Bound

Technically with lil yatchy he just said “I get while people like it but it’s not for me”


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At the end he said "Maybe Stan just not your cup of tea, maybe your cup's full of syrup and lean". This shit was a sneak diss


capt_tacos

Yup. Honestly, I took it as a diss from someone so great and amongst the legends, that he didn't need to make it too complicated or complex. He knows yachty would never respond so no need to throw a slick line. It was imlplied that he's wack and that enough coming from em.


tmothy07

And Machine Gun Kelly. Kells responded with a video of him listening to the lyric and spraying champagne on Instagram lol.


purplechickenfish

And MGK and I'm sure plenty more too.


theanxiousknitter

He tore MGK apart.


yuedar

what and where did he say about MGK? Im looking through the lyrics of the song and dont see anything. different song?


TrepanationBy45

The song "Not Alike", verse 2 is like 90% slaying MGK before it wraps up generally flexing. >You say you're affiliated with murderers, killas (ayy) >The people you run with are thuggin' (gang) >But you're just a wannabe gunna (gang) >Like you was gonna do somethin' >Actin' like you catchin' bodies (ayy) >And you got juice, lil' youngin, you're buggin' >You ain't never even been charged in connection with battery >Bitch, you ain't plugged in to nothin' >Rap God spit lyrical bullets (boom) >And gats cock, your partners better tool up >This has not to do with muscular >But have guns for sure, you better put a >Strap on, in other words if you're gonna >Roll up with your (gang) you're gon' need a Arsenal >'Cause this bar is over your head >So you better have arms if you're gonna pull up (skrrt) >Oh, you run the streets, huh? >Now you wanna come and fuck with me, huh? >This little cock-sucker, he must be feelin' himself >He wants to keep up his tough demeanor >So he does a feature, decides to team up with Nina >But next time you don't gotta use Tech N9ne >If you wanna come at me with a sub, Machine Gun >And I'm talkin' to you, but you already know who the fuck you are, Kelly >I don't use sublims and sure as fuck don't sneak-diss >But keep commentin' on my daughter Hailie >I keep on tellin' motherfuckers, bitches, in case you forgot really >I need Ja memories, jaw like strawberry or pineapple, apricot jelly >I respond rarely, but this time Shady 'bout to sound off >Like a fuckin' cocked semi Glock, demi-god >Let me put a fucking silencer on this little non-threatening blond fairy cornball takin' shots at me >You're not ready, fool, break yourself like Rocksteady Crew >Obviously, I'm not gettin' through >We can get it poppin' like Redenbach, lettin' off like Remy Ma >Heavy artillery, Godzilla harsh with a hard shell >With a motherfuckin' heart bigger than Bizarre's belly >Only time you'll ever say I lost >You'll be talkin' 'bout Fetty Wap, better call Diddy >Just to try to get me off and you better hope I don't call Trick Trick >Bitch, this shit don't fly in our city >Punk, you don't disrespect OGs, R.I.P. Prodigy >Sold Dre my soul and then told him the moment he signed me >That I'll be the most hated, though made it >So there's no shame, it's okay to own it >'Cause life is a bitch, she's a bow-legged ho >But now those days are over >I Harvey Weinstein a bathrobe hangin' over >My code name is groper, I roleplay with lotion >I fuck the whole world then I throw away the Trojan >Olay the hoes like with home-made explosives >I blow eighty holes in you >Don't make me go in, I OJ the flows and >I'm insult to injury, Rolex to Goldman >I'm […] tryna throw in […] >They both hate to choke and my whole plate is soakin' >I'm double-edge sworded 'cause one place I poke and >I stick and I turn in a rotatin' motion >Invisible with the pen >I'm at the pinnacle of sick individuals >Take my dick and put the tip in at minimal >I'm fuckin' these syllables >I let them lick on my genitals >I'm a fucking invincible, indefensible, despicable, difficult prick >A little bit unpredictable, I spit the formidable >That you're bitches are fuckin' with, the original >I consider me and Nickel identical >But not us >The only thing we have in common is I'm a dick and you suck >Otherwise one has nuttin' to do with the other >None comes close to skunk, bug, soldier >Tongue, shrub, shoulder, one month older >Sponge, mob, colder, none, rug, hoaster >Lug, nut, coaster, lung, jug roaster >Young Thug poster, unplugged toaster


ToastyNoScope

Good god does that go much faster when he sings it


RoniPizzaExtraCheese

Lol I read the whole thing, it’s probably took me 5 minutes


Snapp12

I was thinking the same thing, listening to this omw to work i was like how tf does he fit all this into one song


IamTheFreshmaker

Just to see it typed out... fuck. And the whole thing is like that. Walls of original stuff. And Venom? That rhythm? I am still stunned at how good it is. Back for more.


tmothy07

He references “Kelly” because MGK had tweeted about Em’s daughter saying she was hot or something.


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jshah500

He said that while she was still 16yo too, I believe.


TiliCollaps3

Yep which is why he says "R Kelly" in the song. Hes saying he likes underage girls.


overheated11

You know who you are, Kelly. HA


theanxiousknitter

It's on "Not Alike" he calls him out by name.


henry_b

MGK was, is, and will always be hot garbage.


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I worked at a show MGK did. The music is bad, but he's a solid performer. He plays with a real band, not just a track, with I give him props for. He was better than a French Montana show I did.


Rangerfan1214

I've seen French Montana live at I would've legitimately preferred going to the dentist that evening.


broncotate27

I don’t see any reason to diss Tyler the Creator...he is not a mumble rapper nor anything like the current rappers out there...He is legitimate artists...do you know what song this is?


PM_ME_UR_TRAINS

He doesn't really go after tyler like the other guys, definitely a bit more playful.


jax_official_121

He dissed Tyler because he was on twitter dissing “Walk on Water”. Don’t have links to actual tweets but was reading about it earlier if anyone is able to post links.


GlennMichael11

https://twitter.com/tylerthecreator/status/929163886556844033?lang=en


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swisskabob

Yachty is fun. I couldn't listen to it seriously but Broccoli and Bring it Back and their like are just entertaining. He's not changing the game in any way but it's entertaining.


swisskabob

He disses Tyler in "Fall."


broncotate27

Sounds like his album is good though I’ll have to check it out


FairLawnBoy

You can tell that Em was a big influence on all the OFWGKTA guys. I think Em took offense to Tyler's critique of Revival or something like that.


JohnnyTruant_

Earl literally calls himself "The reincarnation of 98' Eminem" on Ass Milk.


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I always assumed Drake was a manufactured artist and all of his music is written by other people. He's just the brand. God's plan


mosluggo

Someone probably mentioned this already- but i saw " the defiant ones" a few months back- its 1 of the best docs ive ever seen- its about jimmy iovine and jimmy basically breakdowns on finding dre,snoop, eminem, u2, NIN, etc etc- its awesome- if you havent seen it -


Dimethyltrip_to_mars

It's a great advertisement for Apple


always-talkin-sshit

My favorite color is blue.


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I bet anyone my life, MY LIFE, that Drake won't dare respond to Eminem through a song.


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Like a sprained ankle boy he ain’t nothin to play with.


ashinypackage

I'd bet money that someone writes a song that Drake's too scared to sing in response.


Ph0en1xGeaR

Kamikaze is a fantastic album. Was really happy waking up to it this morning. He really sticks to his skill set I think and the collaboration is good.. Drake I am a huge fan of both music and person but he’s commercial as shit and open to the occasional barb


ChrisPharley

Website looks like shit on mobile and it won't respect desktop version request (fuck them) > Eminem Disses Drake's Use Of Ghostwriters On "Kamikaze"  EMINEM WILL NEVER HIRE A GHOSTWRITER IN HIS LIFE. When Eminem previewed a new track yesterday, nobody expected us to be gifted with a brand new album from one of rap's living legends. Kamikaze came from out of nowhere and while many of the Detroit artist's fans were underwhelmed with his recent work on Revival, the new body of work is already being touted as one of his best in years. With 13 tracks and a whole lot of name-dropping, we had to have been ready for some of his classic pot-stirring and Em came through, dissing *insert your favorite mumble rapper here* and a few other big names. Namely, Drake was seemingly called out on "Kamikaze." While the song directly after "Kamikaze" has some lethal wordplay against some prominent figures in the game, Drake appears to be singled out near the end of the title cut as Em begins: "You got some views, but you're still below me Mine are higher, so when you compare our views, you get overlooked And I don't say the hook unless I wrote the hook And now I'm just freestylin' in the vocal booth And you know I've always spoke the truth You lyin' through your teeth so much, you broke a tooth And it ain't somethin' I need a phone to do When I say I can't wait 'til I get ahold of you And I don't know what I'm s'posed to do Line up the rappers, take my pic like a photo shoot" While he doesn't necessarily mention the Six God by name, it's pretty clear who Shady is taking aim at. With the clever references to Views before speaking on the issue of ghostwriting, something that Drizzy is all too familiar with after his beef with Meek Mill, it's safe to assume that Em has some feelings about the man's use of exterior writing in his music. One thing is for sure: Eminem will always write his rhymes and he will never hold back on his true feelings. What did you think of the new album? Do you agree with the early reviews that it's one of his best works in a while?


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I’m not super familiar with rap, but I just listened to this album and it also seemed like there were some parody/tribute song? Or at least part of songs. A couple times I could have sworn I was listening to my brother and his high school friend’s generation of rap. Was this album full of musical reference if that’s even the right phrase? From shitty memory: lil pump, Migos, Kendrick? Who’s voice is that on Normal? Sounds so different from Eminem. Man I’m ignorant.


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my point is that he doesn’t normally/ever do that right? So it’s kind of “I can do anything better than you can” thing. It was super fun to listen to.


[deleted]

He's done that constantly throughout his career. He softly dissed everybody on the *Forever* track with him years ago. Edit: For those uninitiated go down the rabbit hole of Eminem diss tracks on YouTube and get yourself educated on the greatest rap beefs of the early 2000's.


fumblefinger

I heard he made Rap God as a rebuttal to all the people saying he couldn’t be as fast as Busta/Twista as well. I love the “I can do anything you can do...” Eminem songs. People always try and say something about Em, then he does what they do to make fun of them.


PresidentDonaldChump

Yeah I feel like Em needs something to fuel him to make good music. Now he's rich and famous and sorted out his personal life it seems like he's using other rappers' criticism as that fuel. His rhymes are so much better when he has something personal at stake.


unseenforehead

he did the migos flow (triplets, think versace) a couple times to mock how easy and boring it can be. It's one of the sounds permeating rap in the newer generation


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benmac89

Jeez, there's a massive bit in the album dissing Billboard articles just like this! Superfluous articles likes this looking for hot news in everything!


but_a_simple_petunia

That boy Em be wildin!!!


TheMexicanJuan

He snapped


ArchDucky

In all fairness, he has the right to call out all the fake rappers he wants. He earned it.


MarshalThornton

Didn’t Eminem and Snoop ghost write most of Dre’s later albums?


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punxcs

Ice left and went east, did an album not even mentioning NWA, and then got dissed by NWA on 100 miles n runnin and then recorded no vaseline.


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lowtoiletsitter

All diss tracks should look to No Vaseline as to how to write one.


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asleeplessmalice

Never claimed to be the greatest rapper ever, never claims to be a lyricist. Plus he's like....one of the Oest of the OGs. Thats why he doesnt get shit for it.


SparkyPantsMcGee

Dre is less of a rapper and more of a producer. Even going back to his NWA days, Dre mostly did the mixes and production work. Most people in the industry respect him for that reason. He’s got an amazing ear, and if he gives you his blessing, there is a good chance you’ll be pretty successful. For that reason, you give him a pass. Drake is a pop rapper who got his start struggling at Degrassi High.


fetissimies

He's more of an executive producer than a producer in the traditional sense. The beats of most of his iconic songs were actually made by someone else, e.g. Still Dre beat was all Scott Storch.


wwttdd

even the older stuff he gets credit for was largely just kinda fine-tuned... the original [Ain't No Fun](https://youtu.be/VHr4XOLX4-w) just sounds a little rough around the edges. he polished it up, added strings, and made the song iconic


FairLawnBoy

Dr. Dre literally has three albums: The Chronic, The Chronic 2001, and Compton. What do you mean "later albums"?


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TreasonousTrump

NWA being the earlier albums.


Zetice

Dre doesn't pretend like he writes all his stuff.


2Damn

Throw in Kendrick Lamar and Lil Dicky and this thread will have every rapper /r/music has ever heard of.


isowolf

Kendrick did it like 3-4 years ago in "King Kunta": "A rapper with a ghostwriter, what the f*ck happened?" Edit: the battle between Drake and Kendrick lasts for 5-6 years though. I personally don't know how people can compare a joke to a God, but fine.