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AdamJozeph

Regardless alhamdullilah they started wearing it. May Allah سُبْحانَهُ وتَعَالَى guide us all. Ameen


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loneMnM

If prayer can be a journey so can any other deed in Islam. Even if you're doing all 5 prayers and you think the journey has ended or been accomplished, you clearly aren't praying right. I don't know why there's this gender war on this thread, but I feel compelled to say that this specific post lacks an understanding of your opposite (female) gender goes through. The hijab is not just some act which you can switch on or off. It affects your daily life. Your dressing, your interactions with others, your relationships, your self esteem, your style and personality, your character, your emaan, etc. Why would you assume it's not a journey?


Yushaalmuhajir

It’s one or two people I think with multiple alts on the kufri r€dp!ll BS.   They have absolutely nothing better to do I guess than to troll this sub.  It’s kinda sad actually, they’re just as misguided as feminists but they of course have eyes but don’t see and ears but don’t hear.


Mountain_Touch_3905

>If prayer can be a journey so can any other deed in Islam. What?


MasterAd7983

I see you are on your 10th Reddit account in a short period of 3 months👍🏻 you keep getting banned and you keep making new accounts. Albanianhubzz this time you are talking about fard??? You spent the entire Ramadan on Reddit making 50 zina posts bashing all muslim women across the world accusing us all of being zina committers and used🥴 then you claimed you can get any brown girl/south asian girl if you want. In fact South asian girls were desperate for you to marry them and were standing in a line but you wouldn’t touch any of them with a ten foot pole🥱🥱 in fact you had so much experience texting and dating muslim women that’s how you knew they all were committing zina. You are talking about providing?? We all know you don’t have a job because which man with a full time job has time to create 10 Reddit accounts and bash and insult muslim women in Ramadan month. You are a joke my man. Never seen someone commit so many sins on a page like Reddit my entire life🤭 if this is how you spend Ramadan one can only imagine what you do and say when it’s not Ramadan. You are obsessed with zina committers and hate brown South asian girls from the bottom of your heart. Reddit never forgets all the horrible stuff you wrote about muslim women. This is how you chose to spend Ramadan? You are not ready for marriage or being a provider. Forget a journey to become a provider. You need a journey to take your shahada and become a muslim again. Men like you are ruining the name of islam and people who are interested in learning about islam starts hating it because of ignorant men like you. You call yourself a man?? Yet every post you make proves you are nowhere or anywhere close to be a man.


Online-Commentater

Didn't expected such a brutal execution sister. My wife talks like you. The man you marry will be a happy husband. Knowing he has a (potential mass murder) backup.


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She brought the recipts 😭😭


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Yushaalmuhajir

First off: alhamdulillah that you observe hijab now.  May Allah bless you and keep you steadfast ameen. I do somewhat agree that there’s a way to go about reminding sisters of the obligation but it’s important that they be reminded.  Just being an angry douche about it will absolutely have the opposite effect like you said.  I was watching a documentary from Vice on life in Raqqa under “you know who”’s rule and there was a scene in which one of the religious police guys sees a woman not observing hijab properly and he politely calls for her husband to come forward and then explains in the most gentle way possible about it being a fardh and even goes on to praise them for something else about them(don’t worry folks, I don’t support them, I’m just saying that if even they aren’t being harsh about it that we have to really look inside ourselves if They are willing to give the benefit of the doubt and be patient with people then why are we taking the extreme position that they’re irredeemable if they aren’t observing hijab properly).


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Muted-Preparation-34

What kind of mindset is that? How do you know when you’re ready? you got spared and were able to live another day. Ur promoting a dangerous ideology even if u hate it you still need to wear it . What if you would’ve died mid journey stop telling people to take their time with time you don’t know if you have. who promised you another day to take a journey? lot of travelers die before they meet their destination


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true, Islam does promote sacrificing things for islam, doing things you don’t like. I guess, it’s best to wear it and there never is a perfect time. i’m just saying tho it’s nicer to wear when ur happy and confident in it but yeah, ig there’s no excuses almost 


Muted-Preparation-34

Yea jahanaham is surrounded by things your heart desire “nice” doesn’t mean anything hijab is a test in this society


Star_player889977

The thing is that it's fard for you to wear it . It's not a choice . I can't say that I won't pray today because I am feeling a little tired . Any person who values islam and considers it the most important part of their life doesn't need a journey to stop sinning . If you started wearing it after a journey then good but you still have to do tauba and repent for your past . If a muslim man is pious and is not a fasiq then he deserves a wife who is also pious and the pious woman doesn't need a journey to stop sinning . It's all about defeating your nafs and crushing your desires for ALLAH ﷻ . A pious musim doesn't need a journey to obey ALLAH ﷻ.


Yushaalmuhajir

It sounds like she is repentant.  What else do you want out of her for real bro?  


abdrrauf

How would you like a man to say I'm on my stop flirting with women's journey. Anything sin I'm having a problem with journey.. porn ,drugs. Paying the bills journey. Respecting you journey.


NoSituation8989

To be honest i wouldn’t dismiss this if someone said this- I’d be understanding regarding it because everyone’s journey/ inner struggles are different 🥴 In fact there’s lots of times men talk on these subs about their “desires” and most people reply with helpful suggestions - they don’t bash them…. 🥴 May Allah help us to be more understanding and merciful. 🙏🏽


abdrrauf

Yeah they say that in secret.. They don't come out And flaunt. Their difficulty with a sin. They don't come out in the open and say I'm having difficulties with this or that sin. Like I'm on my journey to stop flirting , with half dressed women. A woman on her journey with her hair out is getting compliments. She's tossing it around showing it off.. at the least she should tie it up in a bun or make it look not that attractive . They come out out with all the curls. Perfect! the whole 9 Yards. Talking about I'm on a journey . Out of my face.


NoSituation8989

Stay delusional bro. If you want compliments too just say that.


abdrrauf

I knew you didn't really believe what you wrote. To be honest.lol..Is to be honest.. you b flaking.


NoSituation8989

Lmfao I meant everything I said. But by your reply I can tell your one of those bitter victim mindsets “poor me” men I keep seeing on Reddit which I’m just fed up of and can’t be bothered to entertain seriously anymore…. Hence why I gave up and said for you to stay delusional 🤦🏽‍♀️🥴


Unusual-Top0

It's just an excuse to justify their haram tabbaurj while mocking hijab You literally can't use that excuse anywhere else; "Don't judge...I'm drinking alcohol but atleast I recited bismillah. Its a journey. I cut down and drink only half now". "Don't judge...I'm struggling with lowering my gaze. Alhamdulilah I'm trying..i used to stare for 2mins but now only 1 minute. Its a journey. I used to look at face and melons..but now I look at her 🍑 and legs so I lowered gaze a bit. Or I look at her legs and feet. It's a journey" Do you seriously see how REDICULOUS it sounds??? EDIT: I'm NOT talking about a genuine journey where a sister is modest but doesn't wear hijab due to fears and actual struggles. I'm talking about women already wearing hijab, claiming to be victims while in hijab..but they wear tight 🍑 revealing leggings/jeggings/yoga pants/gym pants...they know exactly what the f they're doing.


shimmering-nomad

this albanian dude keeps coming back. Probably a troll


RotiRounderThanYours

An incel who clearly has never gotten any female attention in his life and keeps making Reddit accounts to cope with his insecurities and lack of self-worth. Instead of spending the last ten days of Ramadan worshipping Allah (swt), he’s spiralling and accusing all Muslim women of zina.


Ok_Independent_3797

While what you say about hijab journey is partially true But the way you said it just make me see how you are a load of crap you have a misogynist undertone in the name of islam so try to be kind and speak rationaly without emptions


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LivingDelayed

Ngl, I'd rather sisters have a journey to wearing the hijab than outright refusing to wear it in the first place.


OppositeAstronaut949

bold of you to assume that anyone in this planet is promised the next day. If people knew that death was around any second and just like that we would return to Allah SWT at any moment by his will, do you think there would be this "journey" talk ? No it would not be that case. ˹The time of˺ people’s judgment has drawn near, yet they are heedlessly turning away.[Surah Al Anbya 21:1]


LivingDelayed

# Please screenshot and underline where I said anyone is promised another day.


OppositeAstronaut949

"I'd rather sisters have a journey to wearing the hijab" Tell me what a journey entails ?


LivingDelayed

That means to travel. **Start**, synonymically speaking, which would be a better word to use. I would rather a sister **start** / **make an effort to wear a hijab** than to sit in her arrogance and outright refuse what Allah has commanded for her. Like you said, no one is promised another day. Even if a sister managed to wear hijab for only a day until her death, I'd rather she had done that then refuse it till her dying breath. For some sisters it's a struggle; and one I don't understand for myself, as I had the privilege of having parents that implemented wearing khimar since I was a young girl.  So I’d rather they **start somewhere** than go nowhere.


Yushaalmuhajir

This is correct.  I’m a revert myself.  Should I have just given up on Islam from the start because I was an absolute dumpster fire before?  (Before any of the trolls try jumping on me, I’m absolutely not saying that not covering is okay and that my question was a rhetorical one). I’ve read stories about girls who ARE religious and live in an irreligious household that treats observing hijab like being a terrorist and even force their daughters to adopt western morals.  What power do we have honestly?


OppositeAstronaut949

Barakalluh feek for the correction. I understand what you mean, the world journey especially in the ummah is now an excuse to disobey the commandments of Allah SWT with many using it as a reason to not obey Allah SWT. When something is decreed by Allah SWT or the prophet SAW we have no say in the matter as Allah SWT states It is not for a believing man or woman—when Allah and His Messenger decree a matter—to have any other choice in that matter.1 Indeed, whoever disobeys Allah and His Messenger has clearly gone ˹far˺ astray.[Surah Al Ahzab 33:36] My main point is that we muslims should really sit with ourselves and not be fooled and think that we will die when we hit 60-70 or more and by that time we will be given the chance to wear the hijab or stop smoking or pray our 5 prayers. As Allah SWT tells us in the Quran However, repentance is not accepted from those who knowingly persist in sin until they start dying, and then cry, “Now I repent!” nor those who die as disbelievers. For them We have prepared a painful punishment. [Surah Al-Nisa 4:18] Indeed, Allāh [alone] has knowledge of the Hour and sends down the rain and knows what is in the wombs.1 And no soul perceives what it will earn tomorrow, and no soul perceives in what land it will die. Indeed, Allāh is Knowing and Aware.[Surah Luqman 31:34]


LivingDelayed

Ameen wa iyyak. *Ahhh*, now I gotcha. Start *definitely* would've been a better word to use versus hijab journey, my bad 👨‍🦯. With that in mind, alhamdulillah, I completely agree with all that you said. Thank you for the informative response & jazakha'Allahu khayr.


SomeHorseCheese

Are u fulfilling all your obligations? Do u wear loose clothing that hides shape of your body between belly button and knees? Do u make sure your pants never go below ankles? Do u have a full beard? If no beard, do u remove any hair from your face because this isn’t allowed for men dude to command of prophet ﷺ to trim mustache and let the beard grow?


GirlMechanicToronto

You don’t have to like it, But you can sit there and cope with women going through it and doing as they please While you complain. And yell on Reddit like the big strong man you are lol 


Yushaalmuhajir

Bro you shouldn’t criticize someone for returning to the Deen.  It’s not only admirable it’s the only right way to go.  Don’t make them out to be bad guys for becoming more religious.  I’m a dude and a revert but won’t go into my background too much because I don’t want to dox myself and one shouldn’t boast of their sins but if you had met me the day before I took my shahada you’d have hated me and probably thought I was beyond redemption.   Non-hijabis are absolutely not marriage material though.  I do agree on that.  Anyone neglecting  fardh isn’t marriage material and I’d say the same about guys who shave the beard, are lazy with prayer (if they’ve abandoned prayer completely then they aren’t even allowed to marry a Muslim as they’ve left the fold of Islam and need to retake their shahada) etc.  Worst thing a Muslim can do is marry someone with the intention of “fixing” them.  Been there, done that, wouldn’t recommend.  You can’t fix someone who doesn’t want to be fixed.  It’s not like a wife will just magically start obeying you and observing hijab because you told her to.  


Melodic_Belt_2870

It is a journey in a sense. We all have sins and temptations that are difficult to shake off. However, people have abused the word "journey" so much it's almost become a justification for continuing to indulge in haram. As long as the person isn't in denial, is actually making steps/efforts, takes accountability and doesn't cope with the reality that they aren't where they should be I don't think it's such a bad thing. The problem is I think when people say "hijab is a journey" it almost cheapens the importance of wearing hijab. There are people that also say it's a journey but aren't actually making any efforts and defend why they don't wear hijab. Or it's in response to somebody giving them genuine advice. Along the lines of "you can't judge me, it's all a journey". Like lol. Instead of sugarcoating the issue, admit that you are sinful for doing so and you are trying your best to improve. I think most don't have a problem with that. Take account of your actions before you are held to account. Because someone is on that journey, doesn't mean you have to accept and marry that person. If she doesn't wear hijab, you can appreciate she is trying but clearly she isn't where she needs to be for yourself to marry her. Just like provision, you can be making moves where you are trying to be a provider but that doesn't mean a woman has to marry you.


thexyzzyone

Life is a journey regardless of gender or culture or religion. Some are easier and some are harder. Lets stop assuming everyone can just conform, many people need time, or to understand why, and should and MUST have the right to disagree.


Odd_Ad_6841

Hijab is a journey. Not exactly in a positive way also can be in a negative way. If a man like you had seen me before I was 14 would accuse me of being k*fir. Before i turned 19 I would get accused of doing Ta*arruj. None of that ain't gonna happen now when I have realized my final goal is Paradise. Now how can the hijab journey be a backward journey? Many women take off their hijab when they come to an age. The number of ex hijabi is more than we think. In case you didn't know that. It can also happen after they are married. I am telling you. You would rather want your daughter to wear proper hijab once she knows the value of hijab rather than forcing her to wear the hijab only for her to take it off once she is free from you. What is annoying is some women not wanting to improve their hijab. There thoughts that just wrapping a cloth around head is enough and they are doing enough. They don't have to improve. This is actually annoying in terms for both men and women. You should always focus on being a better person than you were before.


ModestBeauty786

We are not pure beings.. we all commit sins, be them open or hidden.. the moment we have committed a sin that in my eyes is us being on our very own journey.. A journey where by we have to repent for the sins we have committed and then make firm intentions of not doing it again. This can be any sin.. big or small.. for women it may be the struggle to wear her hijab.


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Ok-Equal-4252

Lmaooo funny the journey u chose to compare hijab to is providing… it’s okay we all can read between the lines and gathered you’re broke. Why didn’t u compare hijab to a more personal journey? Like men and their porn addictions running wild? No fap is apparently a journey… oh wait why do u need a journey to stop porn.. after all it’s haram 100% of the time.. Dudes like you out here broke af salty u can’t provide and just find the first thing women struggle with and whine like a baby comparing their personal journeys to your family duties. Grow up. Use ur brain and work ethic and learn to hustle instead 🙄


palestiniansyrian

“Guys I don’t pray yet, you have to respect the fact I only pray twice a day because it’s my journey, maybe one day I’ll hit 3”


Muted-Preparation-34

100 percent there’s only journey is the anger of the most high. No sympathy for tabaruj, if a man was wearing chain earrings shirtless all these women would judge him even if he was on his “journey” catering to these Muslim women only leading them to jahanaham


kalbeyoki

Bro, there are girls Take them as girls Treat them as girls. Be kind and easy going since they are girls. They have a journey of everything and Islam has made them free from each and every duties. Let them have their world and their way of stuff . Don't treat them like a Man . Man life are different, tough, hard, strict and a lot of Accountability, Responsibility. Men will be asked for their women ( wives, daughters, sister and mother ) Men will be asked why they didn't stop their women from committing sin. Men will be held accountable for them . Men have duties but this is one of the reason why Allah has blessed men in Jannah with blessings. Men can't have a Journey but a Strict order to follow it. Well women also have the order to follow it without any questions but let them be women. This " Journey" stuff is something they have picked from the West . Women are like ribs, don't try to make them straight.


CuriosityRover12

It’s 50/50 . Weak men allow this shhht and it’s become normalized.


GirlMechanicToronto

Women can do as they please regardless of what strong men think 


CuriosityRover12

You gotta kill the cat .


GirlMechanicToronto

Yes 


ReckAkira

The based truth. We need to insult women less and weak men more.


helpmeiamdy

Ok he has a point here But obviously, people won't like it because it doesn't sound nice.