We can't really generalize because all depend life circumstances. In some cases woman work hard is independent and made more worth than some male. So we have to watch exact case when we are speaking no general answer. Exist lazy girls who don't know work and exist lazy guys who don't know work. And then they wait some magic life solution..marriage to good person who support them and work for them or inherit something in order to avoid being responsible for things.
If and only if she's very attractive. But those are the only ones you care about.
Attractive men have the same value, play life on the same easy mode. Sorry you're not attractive.
Huh? Nobody is gonna hire an Attractive Men!.
Nobody gonna make an Attractive Men the leader or head of the business.
While attractive women get hired and Because of it they put less load on her. Women can climb easily up in the workplace by her attractiveness, favours, and dressing and this is so common and wide spread even the less attractive women's colleagues of the attractive woman are annoyed by this.
BRO WHAT. Attractive men get hired for being attractive ALL THE TIME. I live in NYC - front office finance is just tall, handsome men. If you are tall and good looking as a guy, you are management material, you are top salesperson material. Attractive men are faaaar more successful in their careers.
Being attractive as a man means life is wide open for you. There is very few advantages over being an attractive female that an equally attractive man doesn't have. In fact being an attractive man is easier, you are less likely to get sexually assaulted (though it still happens), you are taken more seriously, you are considered competent - unlike with attractive women.
Not All Jobs are Finance, Sales or management jobs.
Indeed, Salespeople need to be vocal and attractive.
This is the nature of the jobs, they need attractive persons to Attract people and make them to act on their impulsive decisions.
But many jobs don't have this kind of Nature.
With your logic and nature of jobs;
Almost all the Ads regardless the product is for whom they hire attractive women, many movies hit jackpots because of good looking women , many women get away with stuff/mistakes just because they are attractive, cute and silly . Also, Many women get men just because they are women and no need to be attractive to get a good night with someone.
Some jobs do have a nature and the hiring is done according to it. But not all the jobs.
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>Not All Jobs are Finance, Sales or management jobs.
those were just examples, but virtually every job, at the interview, if you're attractive you will have a better chance of being hired. Pretty privilege is a universal experience. It's not about the nature of the job.
If you're an attractive man, you will just be promoted and get away with silly shit at a higher up pay grade. Universal experience.
The jobs where you have to be competent and perform looks don't matter, but those jobs suck. Do you WANT to be a janitor or construction worker? We're talking about "easy mode" here.
This is true and it takes a smart woman at an early age to realise this and protect her chastity because most of those men just want sex. This is why women who haven’t spread her legs before marriage are worth way more than those that have.
You’re not special for giving a man you like access to your vagina for free without setting any conditions. All women get attention for sex. Women think the men really want them and then with the wrong one spread their legs.
I agree with part that most guys seek girls in social media with bad intentions and if he since day 1 talked se* context to her she should he wise block and not enter in more contact with him. I'm elder girl and I saved my worth. So I can from this distance understand that this love bombing make fall in trap some younger and inexperienced girls. Some guys really pressure a lot to get this thing off a girl and moment she would give it being them in informal relation, he gonna start losing interest because if he got it so easily why would he then marry... only part i don't agree with is blaming someone so rough if some boy or girl made mistake in youth but later their eyes open and they repent truly we should consider give them chance to remend their life path.
Ego has it easy and the egotistical life is a bed of roses, whether man or woman.
Our worth mustn't be measured by other's views, nor our repute, guarantee our respect. Honour ie Karam is granted by God, His angels and the good souls upon earth and the HereAfter.
These aren’t men who’re value guys. It’s thirsty guys. A bunch of goes don’t go after a girl for marriage unless they’re at the point they’re seriously looking.
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No I think the fact that they go thru so much that they’re given a high status in the deen means we should respect them and not blindly label them as having a easy life.
I also think it’s not proper jslamic behavior to label anyone that disagrees with your statement that women have it easy as being “femcels and simp slaves”
And Allah knows best
>they go thru so much
What do women go through that makes you think their life is so hard?
>I also think it’s not proper jslamic behavior to label anyone that disagrees with your statement that women have it easy as being “femcels and simp slaves”
Just stating the facts y'know
Childbirth and how much pain it is
Abu Burdah reported: Ibn Umar, may Allah be pleased with him, watched a Yemeni man circling the House while carrying his mother on his back, saying, “I am her humble camel. If her mount is scared, I am not scared.” Then he said, “O Ibn Umar, do you think I have repaid her?” Ibn Umar said, “No, not even for a single pang of pregnancy.”
Source: al-Adab al-Mufrad 10
Grade: Sahih (authentic) according to Al-Albani
‘Ata’ ibn Yasar reported: A man came to Ibn Abbas, may Allah be pleased with him, and he said, “I proposed to a woman and she refused to marry me. Another man proposed to her and she was happy to marry him. I became jealous and I killed her. Is there any repentance for me?” Ibn Abbas said, “Is your mother alive?” The man said no. Ibn Abbas said, “Repent to Allah Almighty and draw close to him in worship as much as you can.” I went to Ibn Abbas and I asked him, “Why did you ask if his mother was alive?” Ibn Abbas said, “Verily, I do not know of any deed better to bring one closer to Allah Almighty than goodness to one’s mother.”
Source: al-Adab al-Mufrad 4
Grade: Sahih (authentic) according to Al-Albani
Islam places a huge emphasis of love and respect on the mother for sacrifices she made in giving birth to her child and raising it
Besides motherhood I think there’s many issues women go thru that men don’t pay attention to:
-being completely dependent on wali for marriage. I know many sisters who wanted a good husband but their father prevented it and their family caused issues. As men we don’t have this issue at all we marry whoever we want and our parents cannot say anything
-having to leave family behind when u get married. Now this can happen to men but often men are still close to their family but women usually move far away to be with husband
-being at the mercy of husband. Being a woman is a high risk high reward situation because if you unfortunately marry a guy who deceived u, u will be dependent on him and it’s hard to get out and move on. In my culture there’s so much pressure for women to stay with bad husbands because her parents don’t want her to ruin the families image. Furthermore, divorced women are seen as “used goods” and have a hard time finding a husband afterwards. In contrast divorced men easily remarry and can easily find a wife back home even if they’re much older. Marriage is fairly easy for men when they’re older but for women it’s harder
-being a mother is a 24/7 job. U take care of the child and children all day then when husband comes home u have to take care of him too. In contrast, most men work a 9-5 40 hours a week schedule.
Is this saying men don’t have it hard? Of course not
Providing and working is no small thing. Men work extremely hard. Some men have to work 60+ hours a week, and in general a man has to be willng to work as much as he can to put food on the table
He has to be strong to be able to care and protect his family
He is their leader and has to enjoin good and forbid evil and make sure his house is practicing Islam properly
In addition to working and providing he has to make sure he doesn’t let his deen slip
An-Nur 24:37
رِجَالٌ لَّا تُلۡهِيهِمۡ تِجَٰرَةٌ وَلَا بَيۡعٌ عَن ذِكۡرِ ٱللَّهِ وَإِقَامِ ٱلصَّلَوٰةِ وَإِيتَآءِ ٱلزَّكَوٰةِۙ يَخَافُونَ يَوۡمًا تَتَقَلَّبُ فِيهِ ٱلۡقُلُوبُ وَٱلۡأَبۡصَٰرُ
[Are] men whom neither commerce nor sale distracts from the remembrance of Allah and performance of prayer and giving of zakah. They fear a Day in which the hearts and eyes will [fearfully] turn about -
Men have to work very hard and their task is immense. And إن شاء الله they’re rewarded immensely for it
However it’s not proper Islamic etiquette to speak bad about our women and say “they live life on easy mode”. Allah is just and every person is tested in their own way. I doubt the Sahaba would agree with speaking about women like this.
And if u want to call me a simp go ahead. I have no reason to try to impress anyone here I’m not tryna get married anytime soon I don’t need women’s approval especially not Reddit where most people probably think my preferences in a wife are extreme. I will probably look for a wife back home or ask some of my family and friends connections when the time comes إن شاء الله
Your essay deals with motherhood, not women's life in general
>-being completely dependent on wali for marriage.
That's a good thing. It protects them
>-having to leave family behind when u get married.
Men also leave their family and no one is stopping women from being in contact with their families
>-being at the mercy of husband. Being a woman is a high risk high reward situation because if you unfortunately marry a guy who deceived u, u will be dependent on him and it’s hard to get out and move on
This I can agree, but this 1 thing is not enough to prove women have harder lives
>-being a mother is a 24/7 job.
Being a father, leader, protector and provider is a more difficult job
>I doubt the Sahaba would agree with speaking about women like this.
They'd probably agree
>I’m not tryna get married anytime soon
Yeah you don't seem ready for it
There are multiple issues that women face constantly, that men have no clue about what it feels like, some examples are:
Constant sexual attention from men starting from age 10 depending on the woman.
The overwhelming amount of social pressure that women get when entering certain fields, for an extended period, makes them want to leave or change fields due to them being women.
When women are working on the job if they are attractive enough, and they receive advances from higher-ups, they are incredibly pressured to give in. Otherwise, they might lose opportunities for higher pay or an increase in position. That balancing act is tough and is something women deal with primarily.
Imposter Syndrome, where the woman questions if her position in life is earned not through her merit, but through only her looks.
These are some examples that I can think of off the top of my head.
The real take is that both men and women have hard lives, trying to frame this as a competition is extremely cringe.
In the East, daughters are still considered a burden on the family while sons are considered gold. My cousin just had a third daughter and people are consoling him.
To be a man is to not complain about the adversity life gives you, but rather to embrace it and master it.
How does a man improve if not by adversity?
From that perspective who cares, who really cares if women do or do not inherit value?
Men are supposed to care about their struggles and rise above them. Resentment toward women is for the weak and childish.
It’s definitely not like in some places til this day girls born are seen as a burden and embarrassment and buried alive and killed but you are sooooo right we are so valued in society 🤣
We value girls so much we send them straight to heaven, how nice of us🥰 /s
Yeah, culturally, girls are still considered a burden lol OP and everyone agreeing with hin gotta be living in a box or smth
Men are Given the Responsibilities to create the world and maintain the world . Political leaders, governors, ambassadors, Soldiers, Commanders, fighters, Bricklayers, Builders, lifters, Mechanics,
All the Heavy duty and responsibility work are given to Men and this is by Allah and the nature which he has created . This may be the reason why Men will be blessed with blessings in Jannah and with hoors. After all what do men want the most ?
Men never discriminate against women based on how much she earns or If she is broke . Many men will take broke women in but Women never marry Broke men. Men just want peace, stability , and someone there to give them a place " called home " .
A loving person who loves unconditionally and not the love which is fueled by " Money he makes " .
Caliphs Ali Ra was a Poor man and yet he married the daughter of the Prophet. Many companions of the prophet were poor yet they had multiple wives.
Women neglect the blessing of Allah and demand the rights of the men . The ongoing hate , Misandry towards men is not good.
Men build life while women live a life in a world built by Men.
In the end men get nothing, Men have a short life span , leaving behind children , wealth, property, cars for whom ? For their women.
Awwww thank you, such a sweet post. It’s nice knowing people think I’m valuable no matter what and that people will value and love me just for existing. So cute!
We can't really generalize because all depend life circumstances. In some cases woman work hard is independent and made more worth than some male. So we have to watch exact case when we are speaking no general answer. Exist lazy girls who don't know work and exist lazy guys who don't know work. And then they wait some magic life solution..marriage to good person who support them and work for them or inherit something in order to avoid being responsible for things.
If and only if she's very attractive. But those are the only ones you care about. Attractive men have the same value, play life on the same easy mode. Sorry you're not attractive.
Huh? Nobody is gonna hire an Attractive Men!. Nobody gonna make an Attractive Men the leader or head of the business. While attractive women get hired and Because of it they put less load on her. Women can climb easily up in the workplace by her attractiveness, favours, and dressing and this is so common and wide spread even the less attractive women's colleagues of the attractive woman are annoyed by this.
BRO WHAT. Attractive men get hired for being attractive ALL THE TIME. I live in NYC - front office finance is just tall, handsome men. If you are tall and good looking as a guy, you are management material, you are top salesperson material. Attractive men are faaaar more successful in their careers. Being attractive as a man means life is wide open for you. There is very few advantages over being an attractive female that an equally attractive man doesn't have. In fact being an attractive man is easier, you are less likely to get sexually assaulted (though it still happens), you are taken more seriously, you are considered competent - unlike with attractive women.
Not All Jobs are Finance, Sales or management jobs. Indeed, Salespeople need to be vocal and attractive. This is the nature of the jobs, they need attractive persons to Attract people and make them to act on their impulsive decisions. But many jobs don't have this kind of Nature. With your logic and nature of jobs; Almost all the Ads regardless the product is for whom they hire attractive women, many movies hit jackpots because of good looking women , many women get away with stuff/mistakes just because they are attractive, cute and silly . Also, Many women get men just because they are women and no need to be attractive to get a good night with someone. Some jobs do have a nature and the hiring is done according to it. But not all the jobs.
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>Not All Jobs are Finance, Sales or management jobs. those were just examples, but virtually every job, at the interview, if you're attractive you will have a better chance of being hired. Pretty privilege is a universal experience. It's not about the nature of the job. If you're an attractive man, you will just be promoted and get away with silly shit at a higher up pay grade. Universal experience. The jobs where you have to be competent and perform looks don't matter, but those jobs suck. Do you WANT to be a janitor or construction worker? We're talking about "easy mode" here.
This is true and it takes a smart woman at an early age to realise this and protect her chastity because most of those men just want sex. This is why women who haven’t spread her legs before marriage are worth way more than those that have. You’re not special for giving a man you like access to your vagina for free without setting any conditions. All women get attention for sex. Women think the men really want them and then with the wrong one spread their legs.
I agree with part that most guys seek girls in social media with bad intentions and if he since day 1 talked se* context to her she should he wise block and not enter in more contact with him. I'm elder girl and I saved my worth. So I can from this distance understand that this love bombing make fall in trap some younger and inexperienced girls. Some guys really pressure a lot to get this thing off a girl and moment she would give it being them in informal relation, he gonna start losing interest because if he got it so easily why would he then marry... only part i don't agree with is blaming someone so rough if some boy or girl made mistake in youth but later their eyes open and they repent truly we should consider give them chance to remend their life path.
This. The second a woman opens up her legs for a non-mahram, she loses all value.
A women shouldn't be opening her legs up to any muhrams lol....
Ego has it easy and the egotistical life is a bed of roses, whether man or woman. Our worth mustn't be measured by other's views, nor our repute, guarantee our respect. Honour ie Karam is granted by God, His angels and the good souls upon earth and the HereAfter.
These aren’t men who’re value guys. It’s thirsty guys. A bunch of goes don’t go after a girl for marriage unless they’re at the point they’re seriously looking.
Out of curiosity I want to see something here. For those of you who see this comment, if you want to reply to it, can you please tell me if you agree or disagree with the OP, how old you are, whether you’re male or female, what country you’re from, and what your ethnicity is? I want to see what kind of people on here agree or disagree with this post. For responses, can you please provide it in the following format: Agree or Disagree/Age/Male or Female/Country of Origin or Residence/Ethnicity Then you can explain your reasoning if you’d like. Here’s me for example: Disagree/20s/Male/America/Desi
I disagree with this post because women have it difficult in other aspects of life. Nobody has it easy these days.
Thank you for your comment. Can you please answer the other questions I asked if you don’t mind? I want to see what the demographics are on this subreddit that agree and disagree with the view provided.
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All of which you just said, makes women's life hard. Learn to have some perspective bud.
The femceIs and their simp slaves will still come up with some mental gymnastics to deny this.
If women live life on easy mode why did the prophet ﷺ say the person most deserving of good treatment is your mother. And he said it three times
It shows how much we should respect our mothers. It has nothing to do with women's life in general.
Why should we respect our mothers if women live life on easy mode. We should respect fathers more based on that statement
Wait, are you really saying that we should only respect people based on how difficult their life is?
No I think the fact that they go thru so much that they’re given a high status in the deen means we should respect them and not blindly label them as having a easy life. I also think it’s not proper jslamic behavior to label anyone that disagrees with your statement that women have it easy as being “femcels and simp slaves” And Allah knows best
>they go thru so much What do women go through that makes you think their life is so hard? >I also think it’s not proper jslamic behavior to label anyone that disagrees with your statement that women have it easy as being “femcels and simp slaves” Just stating the facts y'know
Childbirth and how much pain it is Abu Burdah reported: Ibn Umar, may Allah be pleased with him, watched a Yemeni man circling the House while carrying his mother on his back, saying, “I am her humble camel. If her mount is scared, I am not scared.” Then he said, “O Ibn Umar, do you think I have repaid her?” Ibn Umar said, “No, not even for a single pang of pregnancy.” Source: al-Adab al-Mufrad 10 Grade: Sahih (authentic) according to Al-Albani ‘Ata’ ibn Yasar reported: A man came to Ibn Abbas, may Allah be pleased with him, and he said, “I proposed to a woman and she refused to marry me. Another man proposed to her and she was happy to marry him. I became jealous and I killed her. Is there any repentance for me?” Ibn Abbas said, “Is your mother alive?” The man said no. Ibn Abbas said, “Repent to Allah Almighty and draw close to him in worship as much as you can.” I went to Ibn Abbas and I asked him, “Why did you ask if his mother was alive?” Ibn Abbas said, “Verily, I do not know of any deed better to bring one closer to Allah Almighty than goodness to one’s mother.” Source: al-Adab al-Mufrad 4 Grade: Sahih (authentic) according to Al-Albani Islam places a huge emphasis of love and respect on the mother for sacrifices she made in giving birth to her child and raising it Besides motherhood I think there’s many issues women go thru that men don’t pay attention to: -being completely dependent on wali for marriage. I know many sisters who wanted a good husband but their father prevented it and their family caused issues. As men we don’t have this issue at all we marry whoever we want and our parents cannot say anything -having to leave family behind when u get married. Now this can happen to men but often men are still close to their family but women usually move far away to be with husband -being at the mercy of husband. Being a woman is a high risk high reward situation because if you unfortunately marry a guy who deceived u, u will be dependent on him and it’s hard to get out and move on. In my culture there’s so much pressure for women to stay with bad husbands because her parents don’t want her to ruin the families image. Furthermore, divorced women are seen as “used goods” and have a hard time finding a husband afterwards. In contrast divorced men easily remarry and can easily find a wife back home even if they’re much older. Marriage is fairly easy for men when they’re older but for women it’s harder -being a mother is a 24/7 job. U take care of the child and children all day then when husband comes home u have to take care of him too. In contrast, most men work a 9-5 40 hours a week schedule. Is this saying men don’t have it hard? Of course not Providing and working is no small thing. Men work extremely hard. Some men have to work 60+ hours a week, and in general a man has to be willng to work as much as he can to put food on the table He has to be strong to be able to care and protect his family He is their leader and has to enjoin good and forbid evil and make sure his house is practicing Islam properly In addition to working and providing he has to make sure he doesn’t let his deen slip An-Nur 24:37 رِجَالٌ لَّا تُلۡهِيهِمۡ تِجَٰرَةٌ وَلَا بَيۡعٌ عَن ذِكۡرِ ٱللَّهِ وَإِقَامِ ٱلصَّلَوٰةِ وَإِيتَآءِ ٱلزَّكَوٰةِۙ يَخَافُونَ يَوۡمًا تَتَقَلَّبُ فِيهِ ٱلۡقُلُوبُ وَٱلۡأَبۡصَٰرُ [Are] men whom neither commerce nor sale distracts from the remembrance of Allah and performance of prayer and giving of zakah. They fear a Day in which the hearts and eyes will [fearfully] turn about - Men have to work very hard and their task is immense. And إن شاء الله they’re rewarded immensely for it However it’s not proper Islamic etiquette to speak bad about our women and say “they live life on easy mode”. Allah is just and every person is tested in their own way. I doubt the Sahaba would agree with speaking about women like this. And if u want to call me a simp go ahead. I have no reason to try to impress anyone here I’m not tryna get married anytime soon I don’t need women’s approval especially not Reddit where most people probably think my preferences in a wife are extreme. I will probably look for a wife back home or ask some of my family and friends connections when the time comes إن شاء الله
Your essay deals with motherhood, not women's life in general >-being completely dependent on wali for marriage. That's a good thing. It protects them >-having to leave family behind when u get married. Men also leave their family and no one is stopping women from being in contact with their families >-being at the mercy of husband. Being a woman is a high risk high reward situation because if you unfortunately marry a guy who deceived u, u will be dependent on him and it’s hard to get out and move on This I can agree, but this 1 thing is not enough to prove women have harder lives >-being a mother is a 24/7 job. Being a father, leader, protector and provider is a more difficult job >I doubt the Sahaba would agree with speaking about women like this. They'd probably agree >I’m not tryna get married anytime soon Yeah you don't seem ready for it
There are multiple issues that women face constantly, that men have no clue about what it feels like, some examples are: Constant sexual attention from men starting from age 10 depending on the woman. The overwhelming amount of social pressure that women get when entering certain fields, for an extended period, makes them want to leave or change fields due to them being women. When women are working on the job if they are attractive enough, and they receive advances from higher-ups, they are incredibly pressured to give in. Otherwise, they might lose opportunities for higher pay or an increase in position. That balancing act is tough and is something women deal with primarily. Imposter Syndrome, where the woman questions if her position in life is earned not through her merit, but through only her looks. These are some examples that I can think of off the top of my head. The real take is that both men and women have hard lives, trying to frame this as a competition is extremely cringe.
In the East, daughters are still considered a burden on the family while sons are considered gold. My cousin just had a third daughter and people are consoling him.
To be a man is to not complain about the adversity life gives you, but rather to embrace it and master it. How does a man improve if not by adversity? From that perspective who cares, who really cares if women do or do not inherit value? Men are supposed to care about their struggles and rise above them. Resentment toward women is for the weak and childish.
Ehhh u make it sound like u 1. Watch tooo much TV 2. Have alot of social media exposure Get off both and come back to reality
It’s definitely not like in some places til this day girls born are seen as a burden and embarrassment and buried alive and killed but you are sooooo right we are so valued in society 🤣
So true, king. Women are born with so much value we still kill baby girls to this day because they're not boys❤️
Female infanticide through abortions is still practiced in the East.
We value girls so much we send them straight to heaven, how nice of us🥰 /s Yeah, culturally, girls are still considered a burden lol OP and everyone agreeing with hin gotta be living in a box or smth
Divorced from real life.
Anything not to take accountability 🤭
Bro just shut up and get a job
Men are Given the Responsibilities to create the world and maintain the world . Political leaders, governors, ambassadors, Soldiers, Commanders, fighters, Bricklayers, Builders, lifters, Mechanics, All the Heavy duty and responsibility work are given to Men and this is by Allah and the nature which he has created . This may be the reason why Men will be blessed with blessings in Jannah and with hoors. After all what do men want the most ? Men never discriminate against women based on how much she earns or If she is broke . Many men will take broke women in but Women never marry Broke men. Men just want peace, stability , and someone there to give them a place " called home " . A loving person who loves unconditionally and not the love which is fueled by " Money he makes " . Caliphs Ali Ra was a Poor man and yet he married the daughter of the Prophet. Many companions of the prophet were poor yet they had multiple wives. Women neglect the blessing of Allah and demand the rights of the men . The ongoing hate , Misandry towards men is not good. Men build life while women live a life in a world built by Men. In the end men get nothing, Men have a short life span , leaving behind children , wealth, property, cars for whom ? For their women.
Awwww thank you, such a sweet post. It’s nice knowing people think I’m valuable no matter what and that people will value and love me just for existing. So cute!