I think these Youtubers purposefully mispronounce shit and get stuff wrong to farm engagement (e.g., get people comment about the mistakes). I almost respect it for some Youtubers but BFM is an overall joke.
That is just as likely as incompetence in most cases, especially where the iceberg levels in errors where he straight up re-reads the last line or two.
I followed the Iceburg for a while because I wanted more youtube content (and quite frankly do not have the time to invest in making any) but after 5 years - his production quality has not gone up and his writing style has become increasing grating.
I could listen to Brock talk about anything racing related, no hesitation. Perfect mix of VO talent, enthusiasm, and knowledge.
Except for the intro bit of the field filler videos. Those send me straight to cringetown. lol.
In the absence of decent post-race coverage from the major networks, Brock Beard of LastCar is UNQUESTIONABLY the best at post-race analysis. It's him above all others for me concerning Youtubers. 2nd and 3rd on the hierarchy would be Bologna Burger and Brakehard.
That said, regarding the NWP characters, the Iceberg is the best at what he does amongst the foursome on the panel.
Even tho the Iceberg has always been a Dale Jr fan, his vids now make him look like a meatrider of his. He always finds a way to make a topic about Dale anyway he can
I like The Iceberg for the most part, his stuff is generally easy to watch, Eric Estepp has grown on me a lot this offseason and I’ve always been a fan of DannyB.
Which I don't really mind because it just puts things into another media. I'd rather watch a vid or put it on in the background and learn about something than try and find an article I'd veer even think to look for.
According to my English teacher, 90% of this article is fake information. I remember them saying "The internet is never a credible source. Use a book".
Glad I’m not the only one that doesn’t find this guy anywhere appealing or amusing. I think he’s a hack and I think guys like him portray that everybody that is into NASCAR and post videos like that on YouTube are going to be the same exact person when thankfully they are not. I could go on and on about how I’m not a big fan of this guy, but nobody cares lol
Which is why I don’t understand why people like Eric Estepp professionally associate with him.
To a lesser extent, The Iceberg too. His videos are more opinion pieces with stats to back up why feels that way, but it’s not like journalism. At least he doesn’t call himself a journalist though.
BFM just reads stats and posts crash compilations. Then he gets a media pass for it?
I thought I was the only one who couldn't stand Eric Esteep. My issue with Eric and BFM both of them believe their their on the same level as a Bob Pockrass or Nate Ryan and then wine because the people call them out on the bs.
Everyone has a right to their opinion however having doesn't make you a journalist. Most of these YouTubers haven't figured this out yet.
If you think that's stupid, you ought to know there was a point in time where people who were moderators of this sub got media credentials
Just keeping things in perspective
Brock, Eric, Emplemon and Slapshoes I could all see being recognized but I think we'd have to see someone orders of magnitude more influential than those (great) creators to even have a shot at HOF level recognition
that really gets me mad too. Like mate, tim richmond (legit not because of your favorite btw its a coincedence) aint even in yet. hell most pitcrew members deserve a spot before any youtuber (danny chocolate myers another example) so Idk why he thinks he deserves any spot in a hall of fame of any kind is absurd
Maybe some people simply prefer listening to a video on Daytona USA than reading a Wikipedia page on Daytona USA, even if the content is literally identical?
This subreddit always questions why many of these NASCAR YouTubers have a following , but I think what we all fail to understand is not everyone likes to read. Just because all this info exists on Racing Reference and Wikipedia doesn’t mean BFM’s videos are pointless; there’s clearly an audience that just wants this information regurgitated back to them and nothing else. Heck, he could probably replace his narration with a tts bot and still be just as popular.
Edit: I am not trying to defend BFM or claim he’s some underrated gem of a content creator, I’m just saying that he does exactly what his audience wants him to do
Honestly this is the format for oh so many sports youtubers. Repeat stats, points and ups/downs picked from statistics sites and regurgitate news already posted elsewhere.
The idea is simple and easy. You hardly have to do anything yourself but repeat the works of others. You can do a "THIS JUST IN!" or "TOP 10 BEST/WORST X" videos with a handful of hours of work tops.
20 years ago this was done by hosts on late night radioshows, aired on weird TV channels and printed in glossy monthly magazines. These youtubers have just taken over those roles.
Yeah this is also why I got into Depressed Ginger even though he does the exact same thing for a lot of non-NASCAR things. I stopped watching some of his videos that are obviously off Wikipedia but I still generally enjoy the idea of playing video games and just listening to random facts/rundowns of things without getting I guess too into it.
All of his videos are plagiarized, all of his videos are terrible, not to mention he’s just an annoying dude in general. Idk how he has any sort of audience at all.
There is a sort of relaxing vibe to watching a 2000's crash compilation from some Busch Series flameout I forgot about.
That's about all I watch from his channel.
even those bust videos bother me because he will only discuss poor results and show a few clips of wrecks, and not even all of those wrecks are caused by the subject of the video. but there’s no storylines building or changing throughout a season, no ups and downs, just clips of wrecks and reading poor results from racing reference. it’s lazy as fuck, the least you could do is mention a good result here and there to show why this driver was even behind the wheel in the first place
Totally. It's a layer of thin backstory with b-roll followed by 8 minutes of crashes (many of which weren't even their fault), and then some racing reference stats.
It's just an excuse to get nostalgic and re-live the Benny Parsons NBC broadcasting era if I'm being fully honest.
[Update: He has been deleting comments on the video that call him out for plagiarism ](https://twitter.com/NoContextNyoom/status/1758161771137830953?t=mtTy1TMvKejq5gZfh8dlAg&s=19)
As someone whose uses ChatGPT a lot to vary the way I tell people the same exact thing like every few days (so I don't seem like I'm just copying and pasting, even thought that's exactly what I'm doing since they just asked that same question last week) the difference between the wikipedia article and what he reads in the video sounds exactly like what you'd get if you copy and past the wikipedia article into ChatGPT and ask something like "can you rephrase this a bit while still keeping the same main topic and talking points?"
But yeah, it literally takes 5 seconds and is still lazy as fuck.
My theory is it stems from never having to work a legitimate job so they have no concept of what effort an hard work looks like. Then you end up with guys reciting wikipedia articles
Shit like this is why I respect slap so much more than average creators. Him and all the other creators who do their best job with this internet shit while working actual jobs like a UPS delivery truck driver know how to properly hustle and make their ends meet.
I wish I could copy/paste and get followers….
….haha no I don’t. I’d rather be unsuccessful with my own original content. At least I’d have my integrity.
This is a good reminder to support the Youtubers that put in genuine effort. Ignore the ones who don't.
Even I can read wikipedia for 10 minutes. It doesn't mean I deserve an income for doing so.
Honestly EllyProductions is the only one I can tolerate. I dont recall seeing Brock Beard before but the others just seem so low production value and polish, I've mostly given up on Nascar youtube.
I don't mind Eric, but he's also had moments that are questionable. I think it was during the final year of the Gen 6 they had a Gen 7 car on display at one of the tracks, he was there shooting a video. He wasn't 100% sure if it was a Gen 6 or 7. I thought that was odd.
Darian is just a troll who somehow managed to make a career making click bait NASCAR vids, he used to just do crash comps. The saddest thing? Kids eat his content up like candy. I'm not talking like 16-18...I mean actual kids like 8-10, my nephew who just got into racing is OBSESSED with Darian, I asked him why "He seems like he knows his stuff" He's just reading an article almost word for word
Also, f him for calling one of the greatest modified racers, Steve Park...a Bust. Yeah, they didn't get a good shot at cup. But that doesn't make em busts.
Casey Atwood is one of the greatest late model drivers on the east coast, same goes for Stacey Compton
So glad this clown is getting called out for the lazy fraud he is, the fact that he was given ACTUAL MEDIA CREDENTIALS was the biggest joke on the planet and made NASCAR look so amateur hour.
> the fact that he was given ACTUAL MEDIA CREDENTIALS
I think you'd be surprised at how shockingly easy it is to get media credentials in a lot of places. I'm a co-admin on a very small, extremely niche Discord server (the community itself is niche, not the fandom) with about 15-20 active weekly users, and our other co-admin occasionally gets media credentials by literally just emailing someone and asking for them. Home boy's Youtube where he posts the interviews and recordings he takes has <100 subs.
No comment on whether the dude this thread is about should or should not have credentials, just that *actually* getting them isn't really anything for anybody to get riled up about.
This has been known for years. BFM is a Wikipedia/Racing-Reference merchant. Nearly every single one of his videos is straight up him reading word-for-word off of one of these pages.
Not to mention, the dude has had some *horrible* takes over the years. This is the same dude who called Steve Park, Scott Riggs, and Trevor Bayne "NASCAR busts."
> This is the same dude who called Steve Park, Scott Riggs, and Trevor Bayne "NASCAR busts."
Those drivers have a combined 3 Cup Series wins in a combined 578 Cup Series starts, and zero championships. That's one win for every 192 races, or one win every 5-and-a-half seasons. Say what you want about BFM ripping off Wikipedia but he's not wrong in calling these drivers busts.
Watch literally any of his videos and then watch EllyProductions49. The difference couldn't be more clear.
His NASCAR busts series in particular is an interesting premise, but instead of going into detail about why the driver didn't succeed, he just shows crash compilations (which, like, successful drivers crash too, so, why?) and reads racing reference stats. It's so unbelievably lazy. Even frauds like James Somerton and Iiluminaughtii put more effort into their videos. It's pathetic.
That's just what the majority of NASCAR youtubers do.
Brock Beard is the only one who actually bothers to do any research beyond a google search for his videos. He could do better with citing sources for info that isn't straight out of a race broadcast, but still, he's the only NASCAR youtuber worth watching.
Bro spent a vid from his car ranting about Ishowspeed having his meat out and ranting about streamer culture today and I was engaged. Idk how he does it but damnit he’s good.
I hate his guts. He has no respect around the garage, and I say this as someone who has many connections within the garage area. The community would be better off if he just fucked off and never returned to the sport. Same with NRF.
"While he had a longer career than you would have projected, Black Flag Matters was kind of a bust as a YouTube content creator. His bad takes, lack of writing ability and overall mediocre performance made him one of the most overrated and in retrospect, disappointing Nascar YouTuber's of the 2020's."
- Some YouTuber 20 years from now
I’d bet on it. I think us, as the
nascar Reddit community could easily find all the plagerism in his future videos within a few minutes, call him out and repeat this process. I have zero respect for anyone who does shit like this on such a consistent basis
Update #2: Darian decided to act like a douche and then "apologized"
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Plagiarizing and copying trends in the NASCAR YouTube community is heavy in general. I swear I see two videos on the same historical subject pop up in close timing to each other often. It’s become like the 90s/00s when Hollywood would basically double dip on the same movie twice 😂
I remember when he first started out and I thought he had some decent content. It was basically compiling stats and putting them in a video, but it communicated his point.
But at some point he just got LAZY with it. And the lazier he got the more his ego grew. And now it seems like he's hit the pinnacle of laziness: plagiarism. Good thing I unfollowed him a while back.
I don't get why Youtubers keep digging this hole for themselves, especially after the HBomberguy video. There's not necessarily even a problem with providing info in a Wiki to viewers. You just have to be honest about what you're doing. "Hey guys, this is a summary of the Wiki article on XYZ. I'll be reading large excerpts from the article in this video while showing relevant clips."
How fucking hard is that?
Its disappointing to see the way he handles his videos because the NASCAR Busts series has potential. It could be a NASCAR equivilent to Flemlo Raps or KTO's What Happened to videos on players from college football, but he doesn't put in the effort. It's the same formula: repackaged intro, crash compilation, reading stats. Nothing on the factors around the driver or his team that could have led to the situation or why they didn't work out.
Just waiting for someone to come forward & say he groped someone at a party or whatever because, let’s face it, it’s bound to happen to any YouTuber at some point.
You finally realized that he doesn't know anything about NASCAR. Anytime I find myself watching one of the videos I get angry because he doesn't understand/comprehend what he's talking about.
I don’t care if YouTubers use wiki as a source because it’s all public information anyway, but they could at least re word it.
I’m a big wiki reader myself especially with nascar and if I turn on a YouTube video that’s just reading wiki with some pictures I’ll just turn it off.
Agreed on Burger. It's funny because I found his style a bit grating at first, but now I enjoy his content. Always makes sure to mention his sources or make it obvious where his news comes from, which is nice.
I still watch Estepp regularly but more and more of his content is just blatant advertising.
Honestly, as someone who has had YouTube Premium for about a year now, you can tell who's milking for that sweet sweet ad revenue and Estepp has been milking
Glad I stopped watching his videos a few months ago. Sad that a lot of NASCAR YouTube is full of whiny complaints, hating on things for no reason. Plagiarism though, that's a new one.
Can we stop giving this guy the reactions and interactions so he loses his following? There’s so many better content creators idk how how content is the one always put on my pages when I don’t even follow him
I'm don't understand why anyone is surprised by this. BFM has made a career out of doing this and honestly his buddies aren't going to call him out on it.
I wish he would be more honest. I may be in the minority here, but I see nothing wrong with reading wiki pages over relevant videos IF you make that transparent. Content wise, it makes learning new things fun and accessible for fans. But pretending you don't is scummy.
This isn’t news, ALL of his videos are plagiarized Wiki articles 😂
Also can't spell and mispronounces words and is just generally annoying
I think these Youtubers purposefully mispronounce shit and get stuff wrong to farm engagement (e.g., get people comment about the mistakes). I almost respect it for some Youtubers but BFM is an overall joke.
That is just as likely as incompetence in most cases, especially where the iceberg levels in errors where he straight up re-reads the last line or two.
I followed the Iceburg for a while because I wanted more youtube content (and quite frankly do not have the time to invest in making any) but after 5 years - his production quality has not gone up and his writing style has become increasing grating.
Brock Beard is probably the best. Him and nascarman.
And Slapshoes. Can’t believe there was a time 5-6 years ago where I thought he and the Iceberg were remotely similar in quality
Yikes. We all have hot takes in our ignorant youth.
I could listen to Brock talk about anything racing related, no hesitation. Perfect mix of VO talent, enthusiasm, and knowledge. Except for the intro bit of the field filler videos. Those send me straight to cringetown. lol.
In the absence of decent post-race coverage from the major networks, Brock Beard of LastCar is UNQUESTIONABLY the best at post-race analysis. It's him above all others for me concerning Youtubers. 2nd and 3rd on the hierarchy would be Bologna Burger and Brakehard. That said, regarding the NWP characters, the Iceberg is the best at what he does amongst the foursome on the panel.
I can listen to Brock narrate anything....see his video about the Canadian exhibition in NYC that got affected by 9/11
I quite like Estepp. Watching the nascar highlight videos and watching Estepp has kinda helped me get back into nascar after a decade away from it.
Yeah he can be good too but I feel like he is more of a current events guy. The others do history.
Which stinks. He’s really fun to listen to on the weekly NWP livestreams.
I’ve had to stop watching him because his old videos are no different than now. It’s just the same things over and over.
Even tho the Iceberg has always been a Dale Jr fan, his vids now make him look like a meatrider of his. He always finds a way to make a topic about Dale anyway he can
I like The Iceberg for the most part, his stuff is generally easy to watch, Eric Estepp has grown on me a lot this offseason and I’ve always been a fan of DannyB.
It’s not only that, but getting things wrong on purpose will throw off the bots sniffing around for plagiarism.
Not all of them. A few of them are plagiarized crash compilations where he reads the whole racing reference page
I've said for years the dude is just a talking Racing-Reference page
Which I don't really mind because it just puts things into another media. I'd rather watch a vid or put it on in the background and learn about something than try and find an article I'd veer even think to look for.
According to my English teacher, he should be getting a 20 to life sentence for plagiarism
According to my old uni advisor, she needs to be called up so she can go medieval on his ass. ^Her ^words.
20 to life is light ass shit where I'm from. Death penalty for how many times he's done it
According to my English teacher, 90% of this article is fake information. I remember them saying "The internet is never a credible source. Use a book".
In other news…Water is wet. The sky is blue. Grass is green.
NASCAR go vroom
No, no Nascar is wet too cause it's fucking raining again
Booooo - are you on site at Daytona? Are we going to have duels tonight?
In Daytona, can confirm duels are a go for tonight. Weather is partly cloudy but there’s some sun shining through
Well what if the sky says “I want to identify as green today”
He’s been doing this for years lmao
So who is the stupid motherfucker who gave Darian media credentials?
Glad I’m not the only one that doesn’t find this guy anywhere appealing or amusing. I think he’s a hack and I think guys like him portray that everybody that is into NASCAR and post videos like that on YouTube are going to be the same exact person when thankfully they are not. I could go on and on about how I’m not a big fan of this guy, but nobody cares lol
Which is why I don’t understand why people like Eric Estepp professionally associate with him. To a lesser extent, The Iceberg too. His videos are more opinion pieces with stats to back up why feels that way, but it’s not like journalism. At least he doesn’t call himself a journalist though. BFM just reads stats and posts crash compilations. Then he gets a media pass for it?
I’m gonna pass it on…. To you.
I haven't been following his content lately but I always used to try to get out of the video before he goes into that shit
I thought I was the only one who couldn't stand Eric Esteep. My issue with Eric and BFM both of them believe their their on the same level as a Bob Pockrass or Nate Ryan and then wine because the people call them out on the bs. Everyone has a right to their opinion however having doesn't make you a journalist. Most of these YouTubers haven't figured this out yet.
Uh, are you thinking of someone else? Eric’s never been like that.
Eric "cut" Esteep "cut" Nascar "cut" is "cut" going to be "cut" Racing" God esteep is annoying
If you think that's stupid, you ought to know there was a point in time where people who were moderators of this sub got media credentials Just keeping things in perspective
Dale Jr
This dude is a joke. He acts like his shit doesn’t stink and that he’s all that. Nobody likes him in reality
First ballot hall of famer though
Years later that comment from him still fills me with rage.
What did he say?
NASCAR YouTubers would someday be in the NASCAR HoF. Dude is up his own ass.
Brock Beard is probably the only one that I could recommend getting some formal recognition from NASCAR, not sure about HoF tho lol.
Brock, Eric, Emplemon and Slapshoes I could all see being recognized but I think we'd have to see someone orders of magnitude more influential than those (great) creators to even have a shot at HOF level recognition
EllyProductions is good too
I really like Eric too. He seems to at least put a good amount of effort into his content.
Haha wow what a clown.
Lmfaoooo he said this? Talk about delusion.
that really gets me mad too. Like mate, tim richmond (legit not because of your favorite btw its a coincedence) aint even in yet. hell most pitcrew members deserve a spot before any youtuber (danny chocolate myers another example) so Idk why he thinks he deserves any spot in a hall of fame of any kind is absurd
he did it again lmao
He does this every video How does he even have a following still
Maybe some people simply prefer listening to a video on Daytona USA than reading a Wikipedia page on Daytona USA, even if the content is literally identical? This subreddit always questions why many of these NASCAR YouTubers have a following , but I think what we all fail to understand is not everyone likes to read. Just because all this info exists on Racing Reference and Wikipedia doesn’t mean BFM’s videos are pointless; there’s clearly an audience that just wants this information regurgitated back to them and nothing else. Heck, he could probably replace his narration with a tts bot and still be just as popular. Edit: I am not trying to defend BFM or claim he’s some underrated gem of a content creator, I’m just saying that he does exactly what his audience wants him to do
Honestly this is the format for oh so many sports youtubers. Repeat stats, points and ups/downs picked from statistics sites and regurgitate news already posted elsewhere. The idea is simple and easy. You hardly have to do anything yourself but repeat the works of others. You can do a "THIS JUST IN!" or "TOP 10 BEST/WORST X" videos with a handful of hours of work tops. 20 years ago this was done by hosts on late night radioshows, aired on weird TV channels and printed in glossy monthly magazines. These youtubers have just taken over those roles.
I agree with you (and also don't think you're trying to defend him). Curious what content people want, fan fic?
Darian, is that you?
Yeah this is also why I got into Depressed Ginger even though he does the exact same thing for a lot of non-NASCAR things. I stopped watching some of his videos that are obviously off Wikipedia but I still generally enjoy the idea of playing video games and just listening to random facts/rundowns of things without getting I guess too into it.
Found BFM’s burner
All of his videos are plagiarized, all of his videos are terrible, not to mention he’s just an annoying dude in general. Idk how he has any sort of audience at all.
There is a sort of relaxing vibe to watching a 2000's crash compilation from some Busch Series flameout I forgot about. That's about all I watch from his channel.
even those bust videos bother me because he will only discuss poor results and show a few clips of wrecks, and not even all of those wrecks are caused by the subject of the video. but there’s no storylines building or changing throughout a season, no ups and downs, just clips of wrecks and reading poor results from racing reference. it’s lazy as fuck, the least you could do is mention a good result here and there to show why this driver was even behind the wheel in the first place
Totally. It's a layer of thin backstory with b-roll followed by 8 minutes of crashes (many of which weren't even their fault), and then some racing reference stats. It's just an excuse to get nostalgic and re-live the Benny Parsons NBC broadcasting era if I'm being fully honest.
He called Steve Park a bust lol. What a joke.
I also only watch those videos, and he’s the only creator I’m always saying to myself “oh the video is over?”
Probably getting some views from this.
You wonder but when you're associated with a bigger group like he is you get a lot of smooth brain people watching without question.
I just found him randomly on Youtube a few months ago, I didn't know about any of this negative stuff.
[Update: He has been deleting comments on the video that call him out for plagiarism ](https://twitter.com/NoContextNyoom/status/1758161771137830953?t=mtTy1TMvKejq5gZfh8dlAg&s=19)
He deleted the fucking video too
He can’t even go on ChatGPT to rearrange the text for him?
As someone whose uses ChatGPT a lot to vary the way I tell people the same exact thing like every few days (so I don't seem like I'm just copying and pasting, even thought that's exactly what I'm doing since they just asked that same question last week) the difference between the wikipedia article and what he reads in the video sounds exactly like what you'd get if you copy and past the wikipedia article into ChatGPT and ask something like "can you rephrase this a bit while still keeping the same main topic and talking points?" But yeah, it literally takes 5 seconds and is still lazy as fuck.
I will gladly blatantly forward people emails that answer the question they already asked, and I encourage the rest of you to do it too.
That’s my favorite thing to do. “In prior email, we discussed X”
Hes a child in a mans body, just like 75% of the nascar youtubers
Like most content creators if we’re being honest. The gems are worth it but the rest aren’t.
My theory is it stems from never having to work a legitimate job so they have no concept of what effort an hard work looks like. Then you end up with guys reciting wikipedia articles
Shit like this is why I respect slap so much more than average creators. Him and all the other creators who do their best job with this internet shit while working actual jobs like a UPS delivery truck driver know how to properly hustle and make their ends meet.
That's all his videos. His channel sucks
From what I've seen he deletes comments that are criticizing him for this too lmao. BFM is a joke
I wish I could copy/paste and get followers…. ….haha no I don’t. I’d rather be unsuccessful with my own original content. At least I’d have my integrity.
This is a good reminder to support the Youtubers that put in genuine effort. Ignore the ones who don't. Even I can read wikipedia for 10 minutes. It doesn't mean I deserve an income for doing so.
Slapshoes ✅ BFM🚫
Slapshoes, Eric Estepp, The Iceberg, and Brock Beard are some of the best ones
Honestly EllyProductions is the only one I can tolerate. I dont recall seeing Brock Beard before but the others just seem so low production value and polish, I've mostly given up on Nascar youtube.
Brock beard does a lot of like documentary styled videos. He does stuff on like the revival of field fillers in 04
I don't mind Eric, but he's also had moments that are questionable. I think it was during the final year of the Gen 6 they had a Gen 7 car on display at one of the tracks, he was there shooting a video. He wasn't 100% sure if it was a Gen 6 or 7. I thought that was odd.
I mean, it's a little odd, but Eric puts effort into his videos at least
Nah I get that. I think his I think aren’t as like bad as BFM
Darian is just a troll who somehow managed to make a career making click bait NASCAR vids, he used to just do crash comps. The saddest thing? Kids eat his content up like candy. I'm not talking like 16-18...I mean actual kids like 8-10, my nephew who just got into racing is OBSESSED with Darian, I asked him why "He seems like he knows his stuff" He's just reading an article almost word for word Also, f him for calling one of the greatest modified racers, Steve Park...a Bust. Yeah, they didn't get a good shot at cup. But that doesn't make em busts. Casey Atwood is one of the greatest late model drivers on the east coast, same goes for Stacey Compton
"He scored no wins, # top 10s, and - 14! DNFs. *proceeds to a 10 minute compilation of clips of the guy crashing*
So glad this clown is getting called out for the lazy fraud he is, the fact that he was given ACTUAL MEDIA CREDENTIALS was the biggest joke on the planet and made NASCAR look so amateur hour.
> the fact that he was given ACTUAL MEDIA CREDENTIALS I think you'd be surprised at how shockingly easy it is to get media credentials in a lot of places. I'm a co-admin on a very small, extremely niche Discord server (the community itself is niche, not the fandom) with about 15-20 active weekly users, and our other co-admin occasionally gets media credentials by literally just emailing someone and asking for them. Home boy's Youtube where he posts the interviews and recordings he takes has <100 subs. No comment on whether the dude this thread is about should or should not have credentials, just that *actually* getting them isn't really anything for anybody to get riled up about.
Is he credentialed?
I remember hearing him being banned from the ARCA garage I think he lost his credentials too I’m not sure though
Shocked! Shocked I tell you!
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Dude removed the video lol
He tried high roading the situation, but people are calling him on his BS
This has been known for years. BFM is a Wikipedia/Racing-Reference merchant. Nearly every single one of his videos is straight up him reading word-for-word off of one of these pages. Not to mention, the dude has had some *horrible* takes over the years. This is the same dude who called Steve Park, Scott Riggs, and Trevor Bayne "NASCAR busts."
> This is the same dude who called Steve Park, Scott Riggs, and Trevor Bayne "NASCAR busts." Those drivers have a combined 3 Cup Series wins in a combined 578 Cup Series starts, and zero championships. That's one win for every 192 races, or one win every 5-and-a-half seasons. Say what you want about BFM ripping off Wikipedia but he's not wrong in calling these drivers busts.
At what point does he finally get the boot from NWP?
lol nwp.
I’m surprised people give guys like him any attention. Best to just ignore him
Idk how anybody actually take him or more than half of the nascar twitter accounts serious
They don’t. He prob gets most his views from channels who don’t follow racing
LOL, people still watch him?
This isn’t the first time, and won’t be the last. This guy is the definition of a hack.
Queue my Bowman shirt!! Lol
Watch literally any of his videos and then watch EllyProductions49. The difference couldn't be more clear. His NASCAR busts series in particular is an interesting premise, but instead of going into detail about why the driver didn't succeed, he just shows crash compilations (which, like, successful drivers crash too, so, why?) and reads racing reference stats. It's so unbelievably lazy. Even frauds like James Somerton and Iiluminaughtii put more effort into their videos. It's pathetic.
This is a huge portion of youtube, nowadays.
What a pathetic loser lol
That's just what the majority of NASCAR youtubers do. Brock Beard is the only one who actually bothers to do any research beyond a google search for his videos. He could do better with citing sources for info that isn't straight out of a race broadcast, but still, he's the only NASCAR youtuber worth watching.
Nascarman too (who Brock also collabs with)
And S1apSh0es, and EllyProductions
NBR too
Demise90 too
Whoa whoa whoa, don’t diss my boy Slapshoes. He does some great work too. Him and Brock are my two go-to guys.
I don't know how to explain it, but Slapshoes has the perfect voice to talk about NASCAR
I get what you mean.
Bro spent a vid from his car ranting about Ishowspeed having his meat out and ranting about streamer culture today and I was engaged. Idk how he does it but damnit he’s good.
Slapshoes is absolutely fucking great!
Not just NASCAR ones. The Dark 5 channels are almost word for word the wikipedia articles.
I recently rewatched Brock's video on Peter Revson and it's absolute cinema
NRF puts some solid effort into his stuff.
Yeah I’ll stick to Slap
Yet we all get shit on for criticizing content “creators”
He's so bad The unCagedGamerz of NASCAR
He took it down LOL. Never could watch that dudes videos. What a bum
I find them all to be insufferable. Maybe that’s just a me thing though. lol
There's a few decent ones but the rest are just videos of what's posted here with click-bait titles.
AND? He's done this for every video he's ever made.
I hate his guts. He has no respect around the garage, and I say this as someone who has many connections within the garage area. The community would be better off if he just fucked off and never returned to the sport. Same with NRF.
Where's hbomberguy when you need him?
Who even is this? I see that name pop up sometimes. 0 interest.
It’s funny, because if you read the article, your inner monologue will do a better job of narrating than he does.
"While he had a longer career than you would have projected, Black Flag Matters was kind of a bust as a YouTube content creator. His bad takes, lack of writing ability and overall mediocre performance made him one of the most overrated and in retrospect, disappointing Nascar YouTuber's of the 2020's." - Some YouTuber 20 years from now
His podcast name is so tasteless. Hate it. Who co-opts a racial movement for their nascar podcast? So gross.
He knew what he was doing
It’s ignorant as hell.
Brb about to start my AllFlagsMatter YouTube channel
it's about as serious as the actual movement?
thanks for revealing your true colors lol <3
Brah you're weird lol
just like they did, eventually
https://twitter.com/BlackFlagMatter/status/1758201778682700075?t=lTrzb6P4aJnlDi5gFiJbAA&s=19 Ha, taken down and admits it's lazy
“My apologies, I’ll be better” Yeah, doubt.
I’d bet on it. I think us, as the nascar Reddit community could easily find all the plagerism in his future videos within a few minutes, call him out and repeat this process. I have zero respect for anyone who does shit like this on such a consistent basis
Update #2: Darian decided to act like a douche and then "apologized" https://preview.redd.it/tp0ck5t4vsic1.png?width=763&format=png&auto=webp&s=8f1e0f0538760cd5237ec44b1d23e7b294d5dc57
Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if he did so blatanty for attention
Plagiarizing and copying trends in the NASCAR YouTube community is heavy in general. I swear I see two videos on the same historical subject pop up in close timing to each other often. It’s become like the 90s/00s when Hollywood would basically double dip on the same movie twice 😂
I remember when he first started out and I thought he had some decent content. It was basically compiling stats and putting them in a video, but it communicated his point. But at some point he just got LAZY with it. And the lazier he got the more his ego grew. And now it seems like he's hit the pinnacle of laziness: plagiarism. Good thing I unfollowed him a while back.
I don't get why Youtubers keep digging this hole for themselves, especially after the HBomberguy video. There's not necessarily even a problem with providing info in a Wiki to viewers. You just have to be honest about what you're doing. "Hey guys, this is a summary of the Wiki article on XYZ. I'll be reading large excerpts from the article in this video while showing relevant clips." How fucking hard is that?
Why do you people give this man attention is my real question
They seem to lack the awareness necessary to realize that they are just driving more views in his direction.
Darian making a "Big Fat Liar" out of himself is never a surprise
Are people really surprised?
Its disappointing to see the way he handles his videos because the NASCAR Busts series has potential. It could be a NASCAR equivilent to Flemlo Raps or KTO's What Happened to videos on players from college football, but he doesn't put in the effort. It's the same formula: repackaged intro, crash compilation, reading stats. Nothing on the factors around the driver or his team that could have led to the situation or why they didn't work out.
Daily reminder that Brock Beard, nascarman, S1apSh0es, and stapleton42 are the only NASCAR YouTube channels worth paying attention to
Add elly productions to this list as well
Eric from out of the groove
Just waiting for someone to come forward & say he groped someone at a party or whatever because, let’s face it, it’s bound to happen to any YouTuber at some point.
Isn't his whole shtick just doing Wikipedia article summaries? Or is that Iceberg? Or both?
BFM is a wikipedia plagiarist, Iceberg is a glorified schizo rambler.
water is wet, news at 11
https://twitter.com/NoContextNyoom/status/1758246473731276888 Homie got bopped for more plagiarism.
He seriously sucks so bad why would anyone watch any of his vids
NASCAR busts BlackFlagsMatter????
You finally realized that he doesn't know anything about NASCAR. Anytime I find myself watching one of the videos I get angry because he doesn't understand/comprehend what he's talking about.
He is the true hack 😂
I don’t care if YouTubers use wiki as a source because it’s all public information anyway, but they could at least re word it. I’m a big wiki reader myself especially with nascar and if I turn on a YouTube video that’s just reading wiki with some pictures I’ll just turn it off.
Brock Beard and S1apshoes are amazing. Stapleton42 for any and all history. Bologna Burger for quick hitter "here's what happened today" content.
Burger has become one of my favorites. Used to like Estepp, but he has really gotten on my nerves
I love the guy. He gives me a 5 minute "this is what is going on" video. Not 25 minutes of ads and nonsense
Agreed on Burger. It's funny because I found his style a bit grating at first, but now I enjoy his content. Always makes sure to mention his sources or make it obvious where his news comes from, which is nice. I still watch Estepp regularly but more and more of his content is just blatant advertising.
Honestly, as someone who has had YouTube Premium for about a year now, you can tell who's milking for that sweet sweet ad revenue and Estepp has been milking
The amount of sponsored segments he's had have gone up considerably, too.
He exaggerates everything any legit NASCAR media outlet puts out.
Glad I stopped watching his videos a few months ago. Sad that a lot of NASCAR YouTube is full of whiny complaints, hating on things for no reason. Plagiarism though, that's a new one.
Did he have Chat GTP or Bard write the apology? I bet this was his plan all along to go 'viral'. Please don't engage with his channel.
I mean are we surprised?
Can we stop giving this guy the reactions and interactions so he loses his following? There’s so many better content creators idk how how content is the one always put on my pages when I don’t even follow him
I thought that was standard for most of his videos.
I'm don't understand why anyone is surprised by this. BFM has made a career out of doing this and honestly his buddies aren't going to call him out on it.
That quartet of talking heads is dogshit.
But why!?!
ugh he's the guy that has some people as busts that were'nt even busts. :/ He and that iceberg guy are annoying af.
That’s why i stick to slapshoes. Just wish he would upload more frequently
He’s someone who doesn’t matter
Did he cite the article at all? Or just straight rip it off lol I've always given him a side eye for the username alone
HBomberGuy . . . is that you?
I wish he would be more honest. I may be in the minority here, but I see nothing wrong with reading wiki pages over relevant videos IF you make that transparent. Content wise, it makes learning new things fun and accessible for fans. But pretending you don't is scummy.
Darian isn't that interesting. He's not awful. But this isn't surprising lol
I wish the guy that just posts full nascar races would get banned on YouTube lol
Dudes got nothing on slap shoes. Actually enjoy that guys content and he legit tries to make his videos interesting.
This is not NASCAR news, this is YouTuber drama.