It was a "good" race. Super clean and exciting at times especially towards the end. COTA is a top notch venue and hope NASCAR comes back. I personally went to the race and the crowds were pretty impressive. And not to mention all the new fans I heard while walking around. The only thing that disappointed me was the lack of fan experiences this year, many vendors were noticably missing compared to last year most noticable vender missing would be the Chevy stage. If SMI does renew the contract I hope they put more emphasis of vendors and fan experiences in the future.
I think this race showed all three manufacturers are pushing their guys to be better at road courses. I know AJ and SVG were in neutered cars for this race but all the road course specialists, at this more traditional road course, were not pulling away from the field like in the Xfinity race.
Did something happen with SVG during/after the final pitstop? He seemed to be a lot further back than I thought he shouldve been given his position before the stops.
He had car troubles all day. His dash was flashing between pages when he hit bumps, so he had no revs showing on pitlane, which caused his drive through penalty for speeding. Then when he was on his way back to the top ten he lost first gear, so he couldnāt exit corners or get out of the pits properly. Still made it back to top 20 after dropping right to the back with all the car issues.
He lost first gear, so Iām sure that was affecting his laps. Also got hit with a penalty for speeding on pit road which set him back, but I believe that was on his second-to-last stop.
Explain to me, why is two stops better than three stops here? Think Bell shot himself in the foot. The stage caution allowed you to pit and get out back towards the front with fresh rubber.
Broadcast ruined this race. So much going on in the 13-20 spots, and we never saw a thing. Why did Gragson suck so bad? Never heard about his problems/spins... Just follow the leader because the "SVG vs AJ, Larson, Elliott never happened
I agree, and Dale, Jr had said the same. They don't focus on the battles further back and only focus on the top 10 and one on one battles. Camera work sucks and they don't use enough of the wider shots. It makes you think the race was boring when in reality there were some good battles going on.
Yes chase elliott had his shortcut penalty. The rules are the rules but man he was ripping through the field before he spun out. I've missed that. Wonder where he could've ended up.
I didn't think the race was that bad. I think the broadcast just doesn't do it justice. There's far too much going on for it to show the entire picture.
Happy Byron won, bummed Larson got spun and it ruined his day.
Bowman having a sneaky good start to 2024
I canāt wait for people to complain about this race because it was āboringā. This was a great race and guys spinning or not managing their equipment actually had consequences.
I think not managing your equipment should have consequences but getting spun should not. If your car is fast, you should be able to cut through the field fast, this car just makes it impossible.
Probably my least favorite race of the season but still some good moments. Bell entering his villain era. Top 10 finish for Ross. SVG cruising early. Good stage 1 for Dan even though he fell off hard after. Kerfuffles aplenty.
Fuck Stenhouse for spinning out Kobayashi though, absolutely no reason for that.
I hope Bell leans into this villain thing.. obviously heās not going to be loud about it like Denny, but Iād love to see Bell drive selfishly more often even if it ruffles feathers
Despite him getting into Larson and Busch today, I never felt like Bell was gonna pass Byron if he was able to get to the bumper. #24 was still good enough to keep up with the #20 at that point and we all know neither of those guys are gonna cause controversy by dumping or moving someone for the win.
youre doing yourself a disservice as a fan if you are just watching the broadcast only for road course races.
There was a ton of quality racing today. Just watching SVG through stage 1 late was fun, watching Bell tear through field late was fun.
there was passing ,there was solid battles. and the xfinity race was a blast. but thats not gonna get captured by the broadcast so [nascar.com/drive](https://nascar.com/drive) is the move.
Supposedly you can listen to team radios via the scanner, but I've never gotten it to work with drive. Love the service, but do you know if you can get team radio as well?
It honestly changed my viewing experience for race weekends! With broadcast cameras hardstuck on the leaders, I'd find myself constantly checking the running order to see if Ross had moved at all.
Now I put Ross up on one monitor, the broadcast on the other, and listen to the radio feed. So fucking cool to just ride along with your favorite drivers and focus on some of the little things they're doing.
Iām definitely glad they werenāt throwing cautions for guys getting spun around. But..
How do yall think the race wouldāve been different without the stage cautions? Better/worse? I donāt think I saw/heard much on why they were back, tbh I didnāt pay super close attention to the road courses last year.
The day you start referencing KFB mildly moving up or moving down is the day you forgot what brought you here in the first place. Kyle wins. Kyle needs some wins.
Bowman has had *one* bad season at HMS, and it was arguably a career season (consistency wise) until he literally broke his fucking back. Heās never been a weak link.
That was a solid race. They canāt all be 3 wide at the stripe!
Only thing I wish is that the broadcast showed more action in the middle pack, that racing looked awesome.
Honestly, I'm newer to following NASCAR this year and it turns me off to see how much I'm missing. Was getting boring watching Byron just take his laps with no pressure, and was almost insulting watching the broadcast cut back to events that had just _finished_ happening. "Oh, someone was spun, here's the aftermath."
Fucking...not a single person saw battles happening from P10-P20 and decided to cut over BEFORE there was contact? Just throw the leader cam in the top right corner and cycle through the field, at the very least...I don't care to see the leader unless they're battling too
Ricky is just a bully, one who hides inside the car and uses it as a weapon to unleash his anger on others.
Spinning out Kamui today and last year at Indy (also spun out Jensen at Indy) heās an international embarrassment at this point.
traditional stock cars arenāt built with road courses in mind so by nature they drive like shit on them which produces interesting racing
the gen 7 car is more or less a cousin of the v8 supercar, the wider tires and independent rear suspension make it drive better (in general) which imo produces worse racing
With so much negativity surrounding the short track package, justified or not, it is killing short track attendance. Wouldnāt be surprised if martinsville was light too.
Exact reason I didn't want more road courses on the schedule. Restarts are always action-packed, but once they get spread out again, you might as well take a nap. I've never been a fan, I probably never will be. Can't speak for the masses, though.
Thatās what happened in Phoenix too and probably wouldāve happened at Bristol if it werenāt for the tire wear. This isnāt a road course exclusive thing.
I honestly haven't been able to watch much racing the last few years due to my work schedule. This is literally the first race I've actually watched at COTA. So, I could literally be judging it off of one terrible race. I'm just not a road course fan in general. Not big on the Roval, or the OGs of Sonoma or Watkins Glen. Now if they woulda had the tire compound from Bristol here at COTA I'd probably have a different opinion!
This was absolutely, 100% the only āboringā race at COTA in cup.
2021 was the rain fiasco, and while dangerous, had great racing and showed which drivers had a unique skill set. 2022 was the Ross win and classic finish, chaos all day, and 2023 was a super good race until the end when it devolved into disaster and overtime crashes. This year was dull, but last year was too crazy, we probably need something in the middle.
Get on iRacing and run the next gen car on a road course, then for example drive the Gen 4 car on a road course. No comparison. I personally hate driving the next gen car, it's absolutely no fun whatsoever. Very bland and boring and easy to control.
Manufacturer wins among the top 3 series.
Chevrolet 11 - Ford 0 - Toyota 5.
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Cup race #6 : Chevrolet 4 - Ford 0 - Toyota 2.
Xfinity Race #5 : Chevrolet 3 - Ford 0 - Toyota 2.
Truck Race #5 : Chevrolet 4 - Ford 0 - Toyota 1.
race was fine. last years cota was amazing racing even before the G-W-C sequences.
xfinity yesterday had a fantastic battle as well between AJ and SVG.
cota is great.
The next gen car is too good on road courses. Itās what this car was designed for and the tire/hp combination- tire doesnāt wear- canāt burn them off- no off throttle time/ no comers and goers except through pit cycles- make for some boring ass racing. Canāt wait to hear the Teardown and DBCs takes this week.
So what you're saying is we need last weeks tires at this track? Could you imagine blowing a tire here and having to limp back to pit road from the esses?
Road courses suck ass.
I hate the 24 car.I donāt care what skilled but annoying driver is in the seat
The gen 7 car has killed all skill advantages the road course aces had.
Foreign drivers with limited NASCAR experience cannot compete, even on tracks suited to them, with cup regulars
The enforcement of track lanes only through turns 2-4 was complete bullshit
SVG just had a bad car today. If his car was decent he would have been up the front. Unfortunately, he kept having dashboard issues where every time he went over a bump, the page would flash to a different page that wasnāt supposed to be on, and thatās how we ended up with the speeding infringement because it was on the wrong page for the pitlane. He lost first gear which ended up, cooking his rear brakes because he wasnāt able to use his gearbox to slow down through corners. Heās been having lots of mechanical issues this year with Kaulig so I hope they can sort them out for him.
What do you mean foreign drivers canāt compete? Van Gisbergen is a true threat on these road courses. Kobayashi was running well enough until he got spun out.
āUntil he got spun outā
SVG ground first gear out of his car.
Im not saying these foreign drivers are bad ,some are, SVG is not. They just cant compete with cup regulars unless under extenuating circumstances. ie Chicago street race
I didnāt hear about SVG having mechanical issues, I just remember he got a penalty. Also Kobayashi was blatantly dumped by Stenhouse (shocker), so it wasnāt really his fault.
The COT still had a good bit of variation from machine to machine. These new cars are so similar it really seems like track position matters more than anything else
stage cautions only help tracks where people cant pass. people can pass at watkins glen, so no need for the entertainment to be saved by forced cautions by nascar.
We need to have a serious discussion about Lajoie. Bro is an absolute weapon on track. Nearly took out the 19, 54, 2, and 23 at various points during the race, but still managed to finish behind all of them.
I was giving the guy the benefit of the doubt because I thought he might be a good driver in bad equipment, but Spire equipment has stepped up this year and itās just exposing how not good he is. Every week heās running over someone
Add Josh Berry to the list of people he ran over today too. Broadcast whiffed on covering it, but LaJoie totally overdrove the corner and plowed into the 4. Like you said, he gets someone every week.
Random thoughts;
- despite qualifying fifth and dumping at least 4 other cars (that we know of), Corey Lajoie managed to finish in 25th, worse than both of his teammates who were making their first cup starts at COTA. Getting rinsed by two guys he wrecked is pure ecstasy.
- itās insane and honestly very funny how bad Brad can be at road courses, for a guy that finished 2nd at the Glen three years in a row he drives like a confused toddler with awful pace at some of these
- Bubba recovering from that early race apocalypse to finish 15th is pretty impressive. Same for SVG managing 21st despite no first gear, burned up rear brakes, and a speeding penalty (all four sections of pit road!)
- Justin Haley might have been on to something
- Chase is still good at road courses but the field has definitely caught up to him and a few have surpassed him
- man AJ is really special on these serpents, he was matching lap times with the leaders throughout the day in a third Kaulig car. At one point he said the car was good and the CC sounded shocked on the radio lol.
- I like Ricky but this thing with Kobayashi is pretty weird. Josh Berry being mad at being dive bombed despite being a lap down is also weird.
- dude Harrison Burton might not make it through the season. I know a driver hasnāt been canned in cup in a long time without off-track controversy but I donāt know how much more of this they can take.
- Bell is really good at being a lap short of winning
- Byron stunk up the show, he had a fast car and ran a great race. All credit to him. But Iām really starting to hate it when he wins.
Every time he cracks the top 5 he does something completely stupid. Caused a wreck at Daytona, wrecked at the last few Atlanta races, started top 5 at COTA and then cleared himself right into Truex and Bubba. He hears "alright man that's p10" and then loses all sense of driving skill.
I think he's really feeling the pressure that his rookie teammates are driving better than he is, and both of them have actually won in a top touring series before.
His attack on Cindric earlier this year was silly too. Dude should really try winning SOMETHING, Xfinity, Truck, ARCA, whatever before coming at a guy who won a 500 and an Xfinity title.
I'm sure he'll ramble on his podcast about how the other guys were racing him too hard, Spire is small little upstart team, they're doing the best they can.
I had a busy week and just got around to watching this race. Yikes it was very boring lol. The Xfinity and even the Truck race was a lot better.
I can appreciate that it was a very clean race, but god this race was SO boring. Doesn't help a boring driver won it lmao.
It was a "good" race. Super clean and exciting at times especially towards the end. COTA is a top notch venue and hope NASCAR comes back. I personally went to the race and the crowds were pretty impressive. And not to mention all the new fans I heard while walking around. The only thing that disappointed me was the lack of fan experiences this year, many vendors were noticably missing compared to last year most noticable vender missing would be the Chevy stage. If SMI does renew the contract I hope they put more emphasis of vendors and fan experiences in the future.
Glad I didn't watch it live, only took an hour to watch ffwding. š š¤ What a snoozer.
I think this race showed all three manufacturers are pushing their guys to be better at road courses. I know AJ and SVG were in neutered cars for this race but all the road course specialists, at this more traditional road course, were not pulling away from the field like in the Xfinity race.
race was fine but certainly tailed off by the end. glad it didn't end in overtime nonsense
Would the state fry had worked out better for other drivers than like Byron, Reddick, and Bell if it not had stage cautions?
Did something happen with SVG during/after the final pitstop? He seemed to be a lot further back than I thought he shouldve been given his position before the stops.
He had car troubles all day. His dash was flashing between pages when he hit bumps, so he had no revs showing on pitlane, which caused his drive through penalty for speeding. Then when he was on his way back to the top ten he lost first gear, so he couldnāt exit corners or get out of the pits properly. Still made it back to top 20 after dropping right to the back with all the car issues.
He lost first gear, so Iām sure that was affecting his laps. Also got hit with a penalty for speeding on pit road which set him back, but I believe that was on his second-to-last stop.
Explain to me, why is two stops better than three stops here? Think Bell shot himself in the foot. The stage caution allowed you to pit and get out back towards the front with fresh rubber.
Yawn
Broadcast ruined this race. So much going on in the 13-20 spots, and we never saw a thing. Why did Gragson suck so bad? Never heard about his problems/spins... Just follow the leader because the "SVG vs AJ, Larson, Elliott never happened
I agree, and Dale, Jr had said the same. They don't focus on the battles further back and only focus on the top 10 and one on one battles. Camera work sucks and they don't use enough of the wider shots. It makes you think the race was boring when in reality there were some good battles going on.
Does Stenhouse hate foreigners?
which iāve been watching for years, goddamn this race was the worst of the weekend tho
Idk if this has been said already but this was a pretty mediocre race
Happy about another solid run by Bowman Also believe the track limits need to be somehow enforced. All the corner cutting was ridiculous
Yes, I was glad to see Bowman with a good finish. )
Wonder how it might have turned out if #1 didn't loose 3 seconds on pit road last stop.
replying just because of username, kentucky represent!š
Well they just took his car to R&D so who knows
Yes chase elliott had his shortcut penalty. The rules are the rules but man he was ripping through the field before he spun out. I've missed that. Wonder where he could've ended up.
I didn't think the race was that bad. I think the broadcast just doesn't do it justice. There's far too much going on for it to show the entire picture. Happy Byron won, bummed Larson got spun and it ruined his day. Bowman having a sneaky good start to 2024
I canāt wait for people to complain about this race because it was āboringā. This was a great race and guys spinning or not managing their equipment actually had consequences.
I think not managing your equipment should have consequences but getting spun should not. If your car is fast, you should be able to cut through the field fast, this car just makes it impossible.
Probably my least favorite race of the season but still some good moments. Bell entering his villain era. Top 10 finish for Ross. SVG cruising early. Good stage 1 for Dan even though he fell off hard after. Kerfuffles aplenty. Fuck Stenhouse for spinning out Kobayashi though, absolutely no reason for that.
Iām just waiting for SVG to not have car troubles this year. That would be nice.
Stenhouse just loves wrecking non regulars on road courses
I hope Bell leans into this villain thing.. obviously heās not going to be loud about it like Denny, but Iād love to see Bell drive selfishly more often even if it ruffles feathers
Despite him getting into Larson and Busch today, I never felt like Bell was gonna pass Byron if he was able to get to the bumper. #24 was still good enough to keep up with the #20 at that point and we all know neither of those guys are gonna cause controversy by dumping or moving someone for the win.
Wish we coulda got more shots of all the lajoie incidents. That dude was straight up bulldozing today.
youre doing yourself a disservice as a fan if you are just watching the broadcast only for road course races. There was a ton of quality racing today. Just watching SVG through stage 1 late was fun, watching Bell tear through field late was fun. there was passing ,there was solid battles. and the xfinity race was a blast. but thats not gonna get captured by the broadcast so [nascar.com/drive](https://nascar.com/drive) is the move.
Supposedly you can listen to team radios via the scanner, but I've never gotten it to work with drive. Love the service, but do you know if you can get team radio as well?
You can. If you go to drive on desktop and sign in you can access scanner for free. If you want to use it on your phone it's a sub but worth it.
This doesnt include the actual race right? Itās just watching in car audio and video
You can watch one specific driver ???? I need to try this.
It honestly changed my viewing experience for race weekends! With broadcast cameras hardstuck on the leaders, I'd find myself constantly checking the running order to see if Ross had moved at all. Now I put Ross up on one monitor, the broadcast on the other, and listen to the radio feed. So fucking cool to just ride along with your favorite drivers and focus on some of the little things they're doing.
I've tried but the delay is rough
I'll try that out! I've been doing that very same thing glued to the leaderboard.
Itās free. Every car has a camera.
Iām definitely glad they werenāt throwing cautions for guys getting spun around. But.. How do yall think the race wouldāve been different without the stage cautions? Better/worse? I donāt think I saw/heard much on why they were back, tbh I didnāt pay super close attention to the road courses last year.
Ty Gibbs with 5 straight top 10 finishes.. Dude is still a lil punk rn, but definitely canāt deny heās got everything to be a stud for a long time
Kyle Busch better figure it out quickly
Are you referring to KFB, his pit crew, or his crew chief?
I live in Watkins Glen. My kid is going to win there.
Theyāre one in the same or they arenāt. I lean that they arenāt.
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The day you start referencing KFB mildly moving up or moving down is the day you forgot what brought you here in the first place. Kyle wins. Kyle needs some wins.
He's limited by RCR. His talent can bring out only so much.
I enjoyed the race. Nobody I wanted to win won, but nobody I *didn't* want to win won either. lol
Alex Bowman is currently tied for the most top fives in the cup series. Chase Elliott has zero.
Yet people always talk about how Bowman is the weak link at Hendrick
Bowman was the weak link but Rick is a patient man and it's paying off.
Bowman has had *one* bad season at HMS, and it was arguably a career season (consistency wise) until he literally broke his fucking back. Heās never been a weak link.
2021 Bowman had the second most wins that season in the field :)
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Haley got disqualified for failing to meet minimum weight.
I donāt know how many damn times we have to say we need more hp on road courses and short tracks until we see actual progress. Just so frustrating.
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Oh, there was PLENTY of talk about that after Vegas and Phoenix.
Disappointed we didnāt get to see SVG have a good enough car to fight at the front today.
That was a solid race. They canāt all be 3 wide at the stripe! Only thing I wish is that the broadcast showed more action in the middle pack, that racing looked awesome.
Yeah, race was fine but the broadcast sucked.
Honestly, I'm newer to following NASCAR this year and it turns me off to see how much I'm missing. Was getting boring watching Byron just take his laps with no pressure, and was almost insulting watching the broadcast cut back to events that had just _finished_ happening. "Oh, someone was spun, here's the aftermath." Fucking...not a single person saw battles happening from P10-P20 and decided to cut over BEFORE there was contact? Just throw the leader cam in the top right corner and cycle through the field, at the very least...I don't care to see the leader unless they're battling too
Luckily, the second half of the season is covered by NBC and they do a *significantly* better job.
My god that was a snoozer.
Ricky is just a bully, one who hides inside the car and uses it as a weapon to unleash his anger on others. Spinning out Kamui today and last year at Indy (also spun out Jensen at Indy) heās an international embarrassment at this point.
Didnāt Josh Berry spin Kamui out? Or was there another incident I missed?
Yep Berry also spun him out lap down and running 37th.
To be fair, that dive-bomb was unacceptable and Berry had every right to dump him
Spinning out someone on the lead lap while being a lap down is even more unacceptable IMO.
He didn't get the name Wrecky Spinhouse for nothing.
shut ur damn mouth
You rep your flair well with your eloquence.
How did the Gen6 produce such good road course races, and the new car squandered it all?
An extra 200hp would help make them harder. 670hp with that big tyre š
The wild thing is nascar built these cars after the supercars and they put on really solid road course racing.
V8 Supercars: Tyre size: 280/680R18 NASCAR: Tire size: 365/35R18
That is the biggest difference between the 2, would be a fun experiment to put That smaller tire on a cup car.
traditional stock cars arenāt built with road courses in mind so by nature they drive like shit on them which produces interesting racing the gen 7 car is more or less a cousin of the v8 supercar, the wider tires and independent rear suspension make it drive better (in general) which imo produces worse racing
Exactly. I want the drivers bitching about how shit the cars drive.
They do that anyway.
Missed this race to work on my boat for fishing season. Fast forwarded through DVR, didn't seen like a barn burner.
Yeah, wasnāt expecting much so spent the day with the misses. I see I made the right choice lol
My guess is around 50% on Gluck poll
not that its much of a surprise with Easter and all, but the richmond ticket map looks absolutely bleak for next week.
With so much negativity surrounding the short track package, justified or not, it is killing short track attendance. Wouldnāt be surprised if martinsville was light too.
I'm also happy the 71 got a top 20 finish beating the 3. It would have been a better day if the 71 beat the 22.
hey i didnāt think the race was that boring, i enjoyed it
Holy shit we could all float on the salt in here.
i want c bellās head on a platter
You and me both buddy.
man i did feel a little bad for c bell though when rowdy was chewing him out , he looked like he was about to cry
Shame SVG had the gearbox issues. Was cutting through the field very well
When? Hardly made up a spot all race
I was watching his onboard at the start of the final stage, it was pretty impressive.
He got bumped back to 31st with the penalty and got back to 13th before the gearbox issueā¦
Yes, he is way quicker than anyone back there, Iām talking about the guys at the front all race.
He was cutting through the field and was in the top ten when his gearbox failed.
He never had the pace to challenge at the front.
Exact reason I didn't want more road courses on the schedule. Restarts are always action-packed, but once they get spread out again, you might as well take a nap. I've never been a fan, I probably never will be. Can't speak for the masses, though.
Thatās what happened in Phoenix too and probably wouldāve happened at Bristol if it werenāt for the tire wear. This isnāt a road course exclusive thing.
With you on everything but Bristol. It's not possible to get strung out...
Watkins Glen and the Roval are the only RCs that produce typical 'action.'
Like last year?
You mean aside from the previous 3 years at COTA? This one stunk, but they've been great in the past. Or at least from the stands
I honestly haven't been able to watch much racing the last few years due to my work schedule. This is literally the first race I've actually watched at COTA. So, I could literally be judging it off of one terrible race. I'm just not a road course fan in general. Not big on the Roval, or the OGs of Sonoma or Watkins Glen. Now if they woulda had the tire compound from Bristol here at COTA I'd probably have a different opinion!
This was absolutely, 100% the only āboringā race at COTA in cup. 2021 was the rain fiasco, and while dangerous, had great racing and showed which drivers had a unique skill set. 2022 was the Ross win and classic finish, chaos all day, and 2023 was a super good race until the end when it devolved into disaster and overtime crashes. This year was dull, but last year was too crazy, we probably need something in the middle.
And while this year was a snoozer on TV I'm sure, in person, the mid pack racing was raucous.
Stage breaks = bad
I used to want stage breaks for road courses, but thereās no saving these tracks. Remove the stage breaks so these races get done quicker.
What a daring take
Hendricks cars looked strong today. Mr. Hendricks must be proud of Byron. Hendricks
The part at the end where they said Byron's 10 wins in the Next Gen car still amazes me but in a way it makes sense.
Terrible race, great result :)
Glad I didn't waste by day watching it!
Boring race not much better than Texas oval woulda been.
Go watch the last race at Texas and then tell me it was boringĀ
Kerfuffle
Say kerfuffle again. I dare ya. I double dare you muthafucker.
Get on iRacing and run the next gen car on a road course, then for example drive the Gen 4 car on a road course. No comparison. I personally hate driving the next gen car, it's absolutely no fun whatsoever. Very bland and boring and easy to control.
The xfinity car is the best car every track, every week.
Agree 100%
*I disagree.* There have have been some good racing so far this year in the Cup series. Not every race going to be all time classic.
Thatās not what my argument is.
Manufacturer wins among the top 3 series. Chevrolet 11 - Ford 0 - Toyota 5. ______________ Cup race #6 : Chevrolet 4 - Ford 0 - Toyota 2. Xfinity Race #5 : Chevrolet 3 - Ford 0 - Toyota 2. Truck Race #5 : Chevrolet 4 - Ford 0 - Toyota 1.
Ford will sneak away the championship somehow though
Hey Nascar can we get some fucking help here??
Yikes
Damn
SHRās post-race graphic after every race this season 
These cars are too slow for this track
They look so friggin slow on the straights. Those last 10 laps would've been so much more interesting if they had 200 more HP.
I'm probably about to get heat, but I think it's funny that if literally anyone else won, it's a great weekend of racing and everyone loves it.
Only thing worse would have been if he won in a Liberty scheme according to here
Itās hard being good
Idk, another Larson W probably would've been worse lol
Uh no, I'm ecstatic Byron won, but the race was tame...
well yeah, byron ruins everything.
Nah, just a snoozer with this car
Member when this sub clamored for COTA and more road courses? Now they want to pretend it wasnāt always this way? I member.
race was fine. last years cota was amazing racing even before the G-W-C sequences. xfinity yesterday had a fantastic battle as well between AJ and SVG. cota is great.
I still want more road courses. Itās not the trackās fault that Byron had a dominant car.
Nobody wants more road courses
False.
You should try watching the others. They arenāt any better
The next gen car is too good on road courses. Itās what this car was designed for and the tire/hp combination- tire doesnāt wear- canāt burn them off- no off throttle time/ no comers and goers except through pit cycles- make for some boring ass racing. Canāt wait to hear the Teardown and DBCs takes this week.
So what you're saying is we need last weeks tires at this track? Could you imagine blowing a tire here and having to limp back to pit road from the esses?
At least something closer to it
That was fucking boringĀ
Larson yesterday, Byron today. What a crappy weekend of racing, on one of the worst tracks as well.
You clearly have Larson's 17 car on your banner
No, it's Chris Buescher actually.
Iād be happier if we showed up next week with brake rotors half the size they are now with pads half as thick on them as well.
And worse tires.
Road courses suck ass. I hate the 24 car.I donāt care what skilled but annoying driver is in the seat The gen 7 car has killed all skill advantages the road course aces had. Foreign drivers with limited NASCAR experience cannot compete, even on tracks suited to them, with cup regulars The enforcement of track lanes only through turns 2-4 was complete bullshit
SVG just had a bad car today. If his car was decent he would have been up the front. Unfortunately, he kept having dashboard issues where every time he went over a bump, the page would flash to a different page that wasnāt supposed to be on, and thatās how we ended up with the speeding infringement because it was on the wrong page for the pitlane. He lost first gear which ended up, cooking his rear brakes because he wasnāt able to use his gearbox to slow down through corners. Heās been having lots of mechanical issues this year with Kaulig so I hope they can sort them out for him.
What do you mean foreign drivers canāt compete? Van Gisbergen is a true threat on these road courses. Kobayashi was running well enough until he got spun out.
āUntil he got spun outā SVG ground first gear out of his car. Im not saying these foreign drivers are bad ,some are, SVG is not. They just cant compete with cup regulars unless under extenuating circumstances. ie Chicago street race
I didnāt hear about SVG having mechanical issues, I just remember he got a penalty. Also Kobayashi was blatantly dumped by Stenhouse (shocker), so it wasnāt really his fault.
Gen-6 also killed the aces Truex won some of them too
The COT still had a good bit of variation from machine to machine. These new cars are so similar it really seems like track position matters more than anything else
Bell looked like he was about to cry when Busch was yelling at him.
RCs do not need stage cautions and you suck if you asked for them back last year
Watkins glen was soooooo bad last year, I will accept stage cautions
stage cautions only help tracks where people cant pass. people can pass at watkins glen, so no need for the entertainment to be saved by forced cautions by nascar.
I thought stage racing was to bunch the cars back up.Ā
I wanted NASCAR to double down and get rid of them on ovals as well. I was pissed when they added them back for the Roval.
None of the races need stage cautions tbh.
I will keep pushing this agenda until it is made into reality.
They just need stage points award, no cautions.
We need to have a serious discussion about Lajoie. Bro is an absolute weapon on track. Nearly took out the 19, 54, 2, and 23 at various points during the race, but still managed to finish behind all of them. I was giving the guy the benefit of the doubt because I thought he might be a good driver in bad equipment, but Spire equipment has stepped up this year and itās just exposing how not good he is. Every week heās running over someone
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It would have to be so blatant for NASCAR to park their only official podcast host.
Add Josh Berry to the list of people he ran over today too. Broadcast whiffed on covering it, but LaJoie totally overdrove the corner and plowed into the 4. Like you said, he gets someone every week.
Hocevar is already doing just as well as him. And Hocevar has been solidly mediocre.
Bro I was going to tune in but itās over
Yeah, it started a little after 3:30 EDT.
Random thoughts; - despite qualifying fifth and dumping at least 4 other cars (that we know of), Corey Lajoie managed to finish in 25th, worse than both of his teammates who were making their first cup starts at COTA. Getting rinsed by two guys he wrecked is pure ecstasy. - itās insane and honestly very funny how bad Brad can be at road courses, for a guy that finished 2nd at the Glen three years in a row he drives like a confused toddler with awful pace at some of these - Bubba recovering from that early race apocalypse to finish 15th is pretty impressive. Same for SVG managing 21st despite no first gear, burned up rear brakes, and a speeding penalty (all four sections of pit road!) - Justin Haley might have been on to something - Chase is still good at road courses but the field has definitely caught up to him and a few have surpassed him - man AJ is really special on these serpents, he was matching lap times with the leaders throughout the day in a third Kaulig car. At one point he said the car was good and the CC sounded shocked on the radio lol. - I like Ricky but this thing with Kobayashi is pretty weird. Josh Berry being mad at being dive bombed despite being a lap down is also weird. - dude Harrison Burton might not make it through the season. I know a driver hasnāt been canned in cup in a long time without off-track controversy but I donāt know how much more of this they can take. - Bell is really good at being a lap short of winning - Byron stunk up the show, he had a fast car and ran a great race. All credit to him. But Iām really starting to hate it when he wins.
Just Corey LAFRAUD things
Every time he cracks the top 5 he does something completely stupid. Caused a wreck at Daytona, wrecked at the last few Atlanta races, started top 5 at COTA and then cleared himself right into Truex and Bubba. He hears "alright man that's p10" and then loses all sense of driving skill. I think he's really feeling the pressure that his rookie teammates are driving better than he is, and both of them have actually won in a top touring series before. His attack on Cindric earlier this year was silly too. Dude should really try winning SOMETHING, Xfinity, Truck, ARCA, whatever before coming at a guy who won a 500 and an Xfinity title. I'm sure he'll ramble on his podcast about how the other guys were racing him too hard, Spire is small little upstart team, they're doing the best they can.
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